[YTN Radio News Fighting Bae Seunghee]
□ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (07:15 - 09:00)
□ Broadcast date and time: November 22, 2024 (Fri)
□ Host: Attorney Bae Seung-hee
□ Cast: Kim Jae-won, Supreme Council Member of the People's Power
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◆ Bae Seung-hee: I'm Bae Seung-hee, fighting for the news on my way to work. It's a time-news war that delves into and predicts Friday's second part of the news. Today, we will talk with Kim Jae-won, the supreme council member of the People's Power. Hello,
◇Kim Jaewon: Hello.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: I don't think I said hello. Is your voice this heavy?
◇Kim Jaewon: The whole world is noisy, right? Originally
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Really? It's noisy. The bulletin board of the People's Power Party is noisy. About 900 slanderous articles about President Yoon and his wife were written under the name of Han Dong-hoon's family, and Han Dong-hoon was the CEO. It is not appropriate to explain it thoroughly. I said I wouldn't respond. What do you think?
◇Kim Jae-won: But CEO Han Dong-geun said a lot of things, but looking at it like this, there's no need for internal strife. You keep saying that, but there's an internal conflict because you're not solving the problem of the party bulletin board right now. So this problem is a problem to be solved, and I don't think it's a situation where we can just crush it to the end. And secondly, there are times when legal standards are applied to various problems that are happening in the political field from the beginning. There are problems that need to be solved by political problems, not legal standards. This was a typical political problem that had to be solved. For example, CEO Lee Jae-myung's problem needs to be resolved legally. That's right, but since this issue is a problem within the party, it basically solves it with a political problem, and it doesn't take much time to solve this problem. Yes, two weeks have passed now, but in fact, it was a problem that could be solved in two hours. Two hours. Yes, the people who wrote various articles in question, especially now CEO Han Dong-hoon and his family, are being raised. Then, even for the article written under CEO Han Dong-hoon's own name, it is not just me, and this name Han Dong-hoon is not me, revealing how many years he lived. Because it stops at the same time as people under the family name and the article has not been posted until now, many people still raise suspicions despite CEO Han Dong-hoon's explanation. So, I didn't write it clearly, and I'm not asking you to reveal all your personal information, but I keep talking about party members' personal information, and that's not something to be honest about. Then why do you insist that Myung Tae-kyun is a member of the general party and say that you will thank the party? But Myung Tae-kyun himself claims that he is a member of the party. And even though Kim Dae-nam defected from the party, he said he would thank the party, and he didn't even hear that I started. I didn't even hear it. In fact, there was an opportunity to solve this problem, but CEO Han Dong-won probably judged this to be a legal issue, and especially now, I think the contents of the comments written by himself and his family are in a position of asking what the legal problem is. If you look at what you're saying yesterday, the party has announced a request for an investigation, so legally, we'll make it clear through the investigation in the future. Then it won't be because the writing this doesn't constitute defamation. I think this is the judgment, but again, this is not a matter of whether it is defamatory or not, but it is now controversial over whether there was such manipulation of public opinion through the party bulletin board. That's right. It's not intended to reveal who wrote this article, but it's actually a little different from the point of view to make the investigative agency reveal the author of this comment and then review the illegality of the article. But now that I'm here, I think the effectiveness of party audit has decreased significantly. So, even if the party audit proceeds, I think there will be the same people who raise suspicions. Because the first is the same for party audit, as the opposition party claims, what is the point of an insider's investigation, and the second is that it technician should participate directly. I think that the effectiveness of the party audit has now disappeared because it can leave the neutrality, fairness, and controversy over such situations. And finally, among those who are now arguing over the case, the comments written under the name of Han Dong-won's party members have become a premise and spread to other communities, beyond the question of who wrote the comments or posts that are now the issue. So, it's spreading now that it's not just a matter of party members' bulletin boards. On top of that, I didn't count the numbers, but the people who analyzed it came out in various media and claimed that there were more than 10,000 posts posted by a member of the party named Mr. Kim. It's been like that for the past year. But the article on the bulletin board of our party is that the total number of cases is 170,000. But in order to raise 10,000 cases in a year, you have to raise more than 300 cases a day. I think so. That's why I can't write on the party board normally. I think so. That's why I'm constantly raising suspicions that I used macros. I don't know the content of Fromder or something, but if you ask if you can let this go now, this internal conflict won't turn off if you keep raising questions about this. In my view, CEO Han Dong-hoon should take the lead in solving this problem, and it should be resolved neatly at least before CEO Lee Jae-myung's perjury teacher case is sentenced so that internal disturbance can disappear for now, and secondly, if it is too much to conduct a party audit, the investigative agency should clearly investigate this. Then, it's been two weeks since I announced that I would file an investigation notice or request an investigation instead of just giving an investigation notice. He said he would file a complaint tomorrow, but if he doesn't correct it by tomorrow, he said he would request an investigation right away. Now, even after a while, some issues are blurred or covered up, but I don't know why you're doing that. I don't know why everyone is giving such a miserable answer, but CEO Lee Jae-myung is scheduled to be sentenced on the 25th and a heavy sentence is scheduled, and accusations or requests for investigation do not dull or cover up the issue. Yeah. And wouldn't it be more internal strife because you're lying still and bragging about asking for an investigation? Therefore, in order to legally solve the problem, the party should formally request an investigation and conduct an investigation. And please search and search the server quickly and reveal all the issues raised. And one more thing I personally ask is that Kim, who posted more than 10,000 messages, posted what motivated them and why they posted this, mainly attacking the president. Then they want us to find out why those people stepped in and made such a fuss. I don't think we can audit the party now anyway, so if you want to solve it legally, I think it's right to finish it quickly and explain the problem and end it. Yes, and if not, CEO Ahn Dong-won will take the initiative in answering the various issues that are being raised now,
◆ Bae Seung-Hee: Yes, I see.
◇Kim Jae-won: I think a lot of things would be good.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: What happens if CEO Han Dong-hoon's family is involved?
◇Kim Jae-won: I don't think I would have been that involved. You have to think in common sense.
◆ Bae Seunghee: If it's okay, then it's like
◇ Kim Jae-won: If you get involved, you'll have to think about it then, but don't keep thinking that it's okay just because it doesn't matter legally if you get involved. There are areas in politics that require political judgment or political evaluation, and there are areas that require legal evaluation. There is no legal problem now as I keep raising legal issues. It means that the investigative agency will clearly reveal whether it is a crime or not, and approaching it like this will not be very helpful in solving the problem.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: You said you don't think your family is involved, is there a reason for that?
◇Kim Jae-won: I just thought it out of common sense. What
◆ Bae Seung-hee: The leader of the ruling party posted a message criticizing the president of the ruling party. in common sense
◇ Kim Jae-won: This is not the problem for me, this is the problem for Han Dong-hoon and the rest of Han Dong-hoon
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Family name and name
◇Kim Jae-won: Since Han Dong-hoon, a member of the party who is an ally of his family, said he was not the representative of Han Dong-hoon, what would be a problem if what these people posted was just a behind-the-scenes conversation about a drinking party? I don't think I need to take issue with that. However, to the extent that many people posted comments and wondered whether such comments were induced by supporters and turned macros, so many people posted accordingly that the party bulletin board was covered with certain claims and made it reported in the media, and public opinion that Yoon Suk Yeol's presidential departure was high on the party bulletin board as a whole, then it should be viewed a little differently. Even if this content itself is not illegal, I think it is right to cooperate with the investigative agency to investigate whether there was such a move. Now, if you keep approaching the investigation and investigation legal issues anyway, it's right to do so. And if the party has anything to file a complaint or request for an investigation, don't just keep giving notice, but quickly file a complaint and clean it up, and we should go to our main job.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yeah, you had a lot to say about this bulletin board today. But didn't you say that we have to solve it by the 25th of next week? There is a first trial sentence for perjury teachers on the 25th. I think you're sure you'll be guilty, how many years in prison do you expect? You got it right last time, so please tell us.
◇Kim Jae-won: No, but this... If you look at this, it's a ruling that focuses on a very, very national interest. Guilty is bound to be certain, and trials with evidence of this level of perjury teachers are probably rare. in perjury teacher's case
◆ Bae Seung-hee:
with a recording like this
◇ Kim Jae-won: Yes, I'm sure he's guilty, but what will happen to that sentence? It's other courts, but the court ruled that Kim Hye-kyung was sentenced to 1.5 million won because she demanded a fine of 3 million won, and Lee Jae-myung's violation of the election law was sentenced to one year because he was sentenced to two years in prison. Then, in the case of Lee Jae-myung's representative Lee Jun, I should not say the correct answer for a year in prison. Since he was sentenced to three years in prison, how much will he be sentenced to.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: It's been a year and a half. Do I have to say it?
◇Kim Jaewon: Yes, that's correct.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes, I see. Is there a legal restraint there? Or is there a suspended sentence?
◇Kim Jae-won: No, I won't be arrested in court, but I expect a prison sentence. Because this is a very important issue. So that's what I expect, but I never asked the judges to make a ruling like this. I purely anticipated it and I think the verdict is already in place.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: That's right. After the election in violation of the Public Official Election Act, the Democratic Party of Korea proposed a bill to raise the standard for the loss of parliamentary seats from 1 million won to 10 million won in fines. How did you see it?
◇Kim Jae-won: I'm having a hard time in politics these days, but I think the Democratic Party members are also miserable. Even so, I'm trying to comfort CEO Lee Jae-myung. Will this work?
◆ Bae Seung-hee: I can't.
◇Kim Jae-won: The person who proposed the bill was also a very former judge
◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see.
◇ Kim Jae-won: And he was just a senior judge.
◆ Bae Seung-Hee: But this is a bill.
◇Kim Jae-won: There. He also issued a law to remove the crime of publicizing false information and smearing candidates. He said
◆ Bae Seunghee: At the same time
◇ Kim Jae-won: Then when you're campaigning now, you're not punished even if you criticize, slander, and lie to the fullest, and lie about everything related to me. So this is the law to make those who are good at lying, and those who are good at lying to the point that their hearts are about to be robbed, elected in the election. The representative person is who has the best competitive edge in Korea.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Is it him? That
◇Kim Jae-won: So would this be the law? But why would I have made this law?
◆ Bae Seung-hee: What happened?
◇Kim Jae-won: That's why I'm saying that he's miserable. Isn't it a law to give comfort to CEO Lee Jae-myung even for a moment?
◆ Bae Seung-hee: But even if this bill is passed, even if it has already been sentenced to prison for violating the Public Official Election Act
◇Kim Jaewon: Passing through
◆ Bae Seunghee: Do you apply retroactively?
◇Kim Jae-won: The current law does not allow retroactive application just because the law is applied in the event of an act. However, if you go and review and delete only the supplementary provisions, it will make it applicable as a law at the time of trial, not as a law of conduct. Then, the first one may be judged to be exempted from being sentenced at all, and even if this law is not the case in the second trial, the social standard has changed when the act is performed and when the trial is conducted. It was a crime when you acted, but you can't be guilty when you're on trial. That's right. Then it lowers the sentence a lot. It has that effect, but the problem doesn't pass. I don't know who's been a senior judge. So I thought that person was also very miserable.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Lee Myung-tae-kyun's transcript has been released continuously, and it has been revealed that lawmaker Yoon Han-hong is trying to cover up the situation. Is it meaningful that Rep. Yoon Han-hong came forward?
◇Kim Jae-won: I don't think it means much. Because it's known that lawmaker Yoon Han-hong is not the kind of person who can influence Myung Tae-kyun. Isn't it Representative Yoon Han-hong that Myung Tae-kyun criticized and was wary of the most? So, Rep. Yoon Han-hong said, "Why did you come up with content that was so unfavorable to the president? Rather, the president got angry because he intervened in this and that." What kind of nonsense is that? That's why you insisted on giving me everything you had. And Myung Tae-kyun is basically a fraud, a liar, and a bluster. So I can't believe the data he put out. And what he said didn't add up and lied about what was okay. Anyway, lawmaker Yoon Han-hong must have been frustrated because he's that kind of person.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. The prosecution also notified Kim Jung-sook of the summons over allegations of preferential hiring of former President Moon Jae In's son-in-law. What kind of disgrace is this?
◇Kim Jae-won: But he keeps saying it's a disgrace when it comes to investigation, and he keeps saying it's a disgrace when the summons is disclosed.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Revealing Suwon
◇Kim Jae-won: When I was summoned, I just heard that all the cameras in the country were different. It sure was. Yes, and I did it like it was live, so everything they showed when they were in power was right, and how much attention is paid to the public right now? Since it is a case, we only made the public know at least the process of the investigation, but the prosecution's legitimate activities to investigate crimes committed against them are political oppression, political retaliation, and some kind of manipulation by political prosecutors.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: During the Moon Jae In administration, the circumstances of the leakage of confidential information along with the suspicion of intentionally delaying the deployment of THAAD were also controversial. The Board of Audit and Inspection requested an investigation. Will this be a further investigation?
◇ Kim Jae-won: This issue is actually very sensitive, but in order to achieve the national interest, it should be criminally evaluated for leaking it, which should be kept the most confidential in the process of deploying THAAD beyond the stakeholders nationally or in security matters. It's a matter that needs to be investigated.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see. You've talked a lot today. Thanks a lot. Let's stop listening to the news. So far, we have been with Kim Jae-won, the supreme council member of the People's Power.
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