[YTN Radio News Fighting Bae Seunghee]
□ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (07:15 - 09:00)
□ Broadcast date and time: November 26, 2024 (Tue)
□ Host: Attorney Bae Seung-hee
□ Castor: Choi Jae-sung, former senior presidential secretary for political affairs
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◆ Attorney Bae Seung-hee (hereinafter referred to as Bae Seung-hee): Choi Jae-sung, former senior presidential secretary for political affairs, is here. Hello,
◇ Choi Jae-sung, former senior presidential secretary for political affairs (hereinafter Choi Jae-sung): Hello.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Lee Jae-myung was acquitted of perjury yesterday. I thought there was no intention or direct evidence from the teacher. The perjury teacher was found not guilty even though the perjury person did perjury. How did you see it?
◇ Choi Jae-sung: That's what it is. Before this ruling, I said that I'm innocent in an interview on a certain broadcast.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: You made a prediction.
◇Choi Jae-sung: I said here that there are many observations of fines in the election law. But I was sure that I was not guilty of perjury. First, Kim Jin-sung is not in a relationship to ask for false testimony because he is perjury. With Governor Lee Jae-myung.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: That's right.
◇Choi Jae-sung: Because it was stated in the ruling with former Mayor Kim Byung-ryang, but he was hostile to then-lawyer Lee Jae-myung.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Oh, you're right.
◇Choi Jae-sung: That's right. The secretary there was Kim Jin-sung. I know him, too. So relationships are not relationships that can cause perjury. That was the first one. And if you look at the contents, so-called, there's a recording that's been released.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: You know. Transcript.
◇Choi Jae-sung: If you listen to the whole thing, there's one thing I want you to do, and when Kim Jin-sung himself drove Lee Jae-myung as the main culprit, the election was just around the corner. Mayor Kim Byung-ryang's side ahead of the re-election. So there's an election, and no, it's an atmosphere to make Lee Jae-myung the main culprit. So it's an expression of certainty that there is. That's why the court acquitted him of that. But now, then-Governor Lee Jae-myung asks if KBS and Mayor Kim Baek-young had any consultations. So I don't remember that very well. So I don't talk about it anymore. That's why Kim Jin-sung is guilty because he said he reversed what I said and gave perjury, but there is no basis for Lee Jae-myung to teach, urge, or do something deliberately about that. That's why he was acquitted, and people are asking why Kim Jin-sung is fined 5 million won for perjury, but why not Governor Lee Jae-myung or CEO. What's even stranger is that Kim Jin-sung thinks that this behavior of the prosecution is suspicious and that it should not be done. In the so-called Baekhyun-dong, Seongnam-si, Kim Jin-sung was sentenced to five years in prison because his accomplice was involved in corruption and irregularities. Kim Jin-sung is not even prosecuted by the prosecution. He's holding it. So, since he has the right to investigate and indict, he did the investigation, prosecuted the accomplice, and the second trial is over, and Kim Jin-sung is not prosecuting his right hand after investigating from his left hand to his right hand. In the meantime, Kim Jin-sung's testimony changed. by perjury So this is also a sufficiently suspicious act of the prosecution. Now it's shown like this.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Anyway, in the judgment of the judiciary, you think that the judgment was good.
◇Choi Jae-sung: I just thought, "This is not a fine, this is not a fine, this is not a fine, this is not an innocent sentence." However, in the case of this perjury teacher, it seems that the court carefully listened to and analyzed the entire recording of the political relationship and content that could not be established. That's why it's such an issue that can't be established. So I have confidence that I'm innocent.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. But CEO Lee Jae-myung has four trials, and isn't he currently facing a total of five trials due to the recent suspicion of misappropriation of corporate cards? How about forecasting the future judicial risks in general?
◇Choi Jae-sung: I can't say there isn't. First of all, if you look at the charges related to representative Lee Jae-myung and the prosecution, at first, the whole country in Daejang-dong was in a state of excitement. In fact, Daejang-dong accumulated a lot of money with this at first and did this due to corruption cases, but in the end, Daejang-dong is so quiet that it disappears. And what's going around and around? The remittance problem to North Korea, Seongnam FC problem, and perjury teacher problem come. It's not 22 years ago. That's why I was falsely accused of being the main culprit during the 2018 gubernatorial election, and then accused of being falsely accused, and then put this on the line again in 22 years, four years after Kim Jin-sung's testimony was false. So in the end, I expressed that. I started with a flower that I couldn't finish, but it changed to Andong Station in the middle and then came back later. ending in the voyage of Busan All the prosecution and allegations of Lee Jae-myung are like that. So, at least in my view, Daejang-dong and Baekhyun-dong belong to the category where they cannot be held liable legally. Then, I think what's left is Seongnam FC, then remittance to North Korea, and corporate credit card. This is a derivative product. So, the mainstream went crazy in Daejang-dong, and the case of the motherland is the same. So, even during the case of my country, I talked about the private equity fund as if it were a fraud, and eventually only the citation will remain. So, I said that Chang Sang-won would be the best at the Cho Kuk case, but in the end, he goes like that. That's why the number index keeps changing because the prosecution's target, flag, and catch dust has become part of killing the opposition leader with this. I can't say there's no judicial risk, but I think I can overcome it well because it's such a ridiculous process now.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. You said you can overcome it. Former lawmaker Seol Hoon is. I have to resign my seat and wait for the verdict. I said this.
◇Choi Jae-sung: Representative Seol-hoon has been consistent in making such claims. However, I personally think that representative Lee Jae-myung's leadership and representative Lee Jae-yong should be the president to change the government, right? In the process, I'm also pointing out a lot because I'm disappointed in the leadership of Chairman Lee Jae-myung, but this so-called judicial risk kills the leader of the opposition party. That's why the fundamental standards and trajectories of your thinking are different for me.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see. But you expected a fine for the last Public Official Election Act. But the result of the sentence came out to probation. You said that there is a little excessive aspect, but why did the Public Official Election Act come out so excessive?
◇Choi Jae-sung: So when I looked at the ruling, I thought, "Oh, this is not guilty," so it's like, "Do you know the late Kim Moon-ki?" It is ruled that this is an area that cannot be punished. And wasn't the picture of the dispute that was subordinated to it fabricated anyway? I cut out the photos taken by 10 people and made it into 4 people. It means that I'm driving you like that because I played golf with this fabricated thing. I'm not denying that CEO Lee Jae-myung played golf. More importantly, there were 11 official letters from the Ministry of Land, Infrastructure and Transport regarding Baekhyun-dong's relocation of the Korea Food Research Institute after saying that the photo was not subject to punishment. I don't mention this at all. So, I've been a member of the National Assembly, and when dealing with something politically, complaints or acts that may feel pressure when dealing with local businesses are usually found in high- and low-level organizations. And this was the government's policy. So, it's not that CEO Lee Jae-myung didn't do Baekhyun-dong's thing about what these things can feel like pressure and intimidation. So, I talked about what I felt like threatening pressure, but I didn't cite any official documents from the Ministry of Land, Infrastructure and Transport, which can be felt like that, so that was a bit excessive. And few people expected that there would be such a suspended prison sentence. That's why it's too much.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Former Minister of Legislation Lee Seok-yeon, known as a conservative elder, also evaluated the ruling that was remarkably out of balance. Is there a specific reason for that? Is there a reason why this person said this?
◇ Choi Jae-sung: No, that's obviously out of balance. Because the law is the judge's own authority, and if you hit the bat three times, it's just over. In my opinion, many people, including legal professionals, and even lawmakers of the People's Power, expected this to be imprisoned because they were prosecutors Joo Jin-woo. So, lawmaker Yoon Sang-hyun also expected a fine of 800,000 won, so he would be fined. However, the concern was whether it exceeded 1 million won or not. So that's what I'm saying. That's why it's too much.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: This time, let me ask you about the power of the people. The controversy over the party's bulletin board is at the core right now. CEO Han Dong-hoon is fighting over whether he did it or not. How do you see it?
◇Choi Jae-sung: Since this is a controversy right now by another party, would CEO Han Dong-hoon have written it himself? Then, would CEO Han Dong-hoon's wife have written it herself? Would your daughter have used it at that time again? And then it came up every minute. Then, the whole family got it right, the grandmother got it right, and the wife got it right at the same time, but I don't think that can be established. Wouldn't someone have replaced it?
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Who wouldn't have replaced him?
◇ Choi Jae-sung: That's how I can think about it now. It comes up every minute, and at the same time, the whole family may have different places, but they are connecting at the same time and doing it. I think that's a little hard to presuppose. Someone could have done it.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Is it a name theft? Or was there an instruction?
◇Choi Jae-sung: We can't confirm the instructions. However, if someone said they did it instead, it was intentionally organized unless it was accidentally a person of the same name or just stole his name. Whether you've instructed or not, you can think about it like this now.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Then CEO Han Dong-hoon's family names are all being mentioned right now. Did I ask my family?
◇Choi Jae-sung: I'm sure you've asked or not.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: I know CEO Han Dong-hoon.
◇ Choi Jae-sung: Okay. So my family didn't do it, then you can just say that it wasn't my family. But in my opinion, my family did it. As I said earlier, the whole family does it at the same time. That's a premise that can't be established either. But why didn't CEO Han Dong-hoon fret that it wasn't our family, and he didn't say sorry that our family did it, so there was something other than both.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Rather, CEO Han Dong-hoon refutes whether he is trying to bring me down with this anonymous bulletin board.
◇Choi Jae-sung: I presented a kind of frame that Han can do. So it's a very simple matter of taking this intensely as an internal fight to see another way out instead of an explanation. There's no need to just use your right hand. If you figure out what happened with your left hand, you can immediately figure it out. What does this have to do with representative Lee Jae-myung's trial, it becomes a variable across the country, and the act of grasping it itself is so that there is a situation where you can't figure it out and just reveal it and organize it.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: CEO Han Dong-hoon has a situation.
◇ Choi Jae-sung: I think there's a situation. But I don't think the family did it. Because my family had to log on at the same time and do it at the same time.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: There was also a public opinion team when the Minister of Justice was in charge. There was this suspicion.
◇ Choi Jae-sung: There were stories like that because I didn't check it. There are a lot of stories about Minister Han.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: As part of that, can you guess that I still did it and did a party bulletin board?
◇Choi Jae-sung: There are quite a few people who think like that and are just convinced.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: But CEO Han Dong-hoon doesn't explain as you just said, but he's talking about killing Han Dong-hoon, and if you look at the content of the article. It's very much about the president and his wife. It's an attack, but there's also a primary attack, isn't it very severe? Why did you write this?
◇Choi Jae-sung: CEO Han Dong-hoon said that. What did you say? The party bulletin board says, "Criticize the president and the representative."
◆Bae Seung-hee: Rather than CEO Han Dong-hoon's swearing, it's another controversy right now why all CEO Han Dong-hoon's family is swearing at the president.
◇Choi Jae-sung: But if you look at CEO Han Dong-hoon's stance and CEO Han Dong-hoon's words, That's the way it is. He's claiming that he's here to curse. So anyway, it is considered that there are unspeakable circumstances, a very complex problem, and a problem that cannot be solved.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: It's a problem that you can't solve?
◇Choi Jae-sung: So let's go to the collision.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: I was trying to get out.
◇Choi Jae-sung: That's the kind of frame we're going to have.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: It's getting out. In the political circle, it has become difficult to enjoy reflective profits due to the innocence of the first trial of Lee Jae-myung's perjury teacher. You're watching this. How do you watch it?
◇Choi Jae-sung: Originally, there is no reflective benefit.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: It wasn't an issue.
◇Choi Jae-sung: Even if it's not an incident, it's proven. I've been talking about this a lot. The issue of the power of the Yoon Suk Yeol regime and the people is the eyes and judgment of the people regardless of the results of Lee Jae-myung's trial. But the more we talk about this, the more we lose. I knew it because Lee Jae-myung was guilty in the first trial. I feel more stupid and worse in the eyes of the people when I see them clapping and stuff like that.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see. I see. That's all for today's news war. Thank you.
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