- The proposal of a reduced budget bill for the plenary session? The ruling and opposition parties will negotiate
-The all-time 'tax deficit' of 86 trillion over two years...The tax cut for the super-rich is still strong
- The 野 cut half of the 4.8 trillion won in government reserves
- The government's ruling party has put in a lot of budgets such as special activity expenses and pocket money from power institutions
- Isn't the 'reduced budget' finalized?There's a possibility of consultation within the regular session of the National Assembly.
[YTN Radio News Fighting Bae Seunghee]
□ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (07:15 - 09:00)
□ Broadcast date and time: December 2, 2024 (Monday)
□ Host: Attorney Bae Seung-hee
□ Starter: Park Soo-hyun, member of the Democratic Party of Korea
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- Special Prosecutor Act Re-voting Variables, Ended When Aunt Appears in the Political Panel
- There is a possibility that the Special Prosecutor Kim will pass...have four or more votes to leave
- The concept of paternity and obscenity, not Lee Jae-myung's 'myeong' but Myung Tae-kyun's 'myeong'
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◆ Lawyer Bae Seung-hee (hereinafter referred to as Bae Seung-hee): I'm Bae Seung-hee from News Fighting. We will continue with the second part of the issue interview. The Democratic Party of Korea has decided to present a budget bill that only reflects the reduction in next year's budget to the plenary session in line with the legal deadline for next year's budget bill. In response, the government and the ruling party strongly oppose the withdrawal of the budget bill. In this regard, let's connect Park Soo-hyun of the Democratic Party of Korea and listen to him in detail. Hello,
◇ Rep. Park Soo-hyun of the Democratic Party (hereinafter referred to as Park Soo-hyun): Yes, hello. I'm Park Soo-hyun.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: The Democratic Party said it would present a budget bill that only reflected the reduction without an increase to the plenary session. With the ruling and opposition parties continuing their confrontation, the dinner meeting between the floor leaders of the ruling and opposition parties proposed by National Assembly Speaker Woo Won-sik was also canceled. Will Chairman Woo put this budget as it is?
◇ Park Soo-hyun: I'm not sure. In common sense, it is a budget that only reflects the first reduction in constitutional history. It would be quite burdensome for the Speaker to present this directly to the plenary today. It's generally expected like this, and I'm expecting that too. Isn't the deadline for the budget processing December 2nd today? However, by December 10, the deadline for the regular session of the National Assembly, the National Assembly Speaker probably expects to see the situation as he calls for negotiations between the ruling and opposition parties.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: So you're saying that the budget bill won't be proposed as it is, right?
◇ Park Soo-hyun: There will be a burden to assume today. That's how I see it.
◆ Is that why? Representative Lee Jae-myung expressed his intention, "If the government makes an amendment, we can discuss it." In response, the government and the ruling party say, "Further negotiations are impossible unless the budget reduction plan is withdrawn." How do you see it?
◇ Park Soo-hyun: So it's time for the ruling party to take a more flexible position. Not only the ruling party but also the president's office issued a message saying that the opposition party should be responsible for public security diplomacy in the event of a problem with public welfare with the reduction bill passed by the Budget and Accounts Committee. This is not the time for the ruling party and the presidential office. In any way, as Lee Jae-myung said, the budget for people's livelihoods. The ruling party's responsible attitude is to bring an amendment and negotiate with the opposition when the economy is really difficult. However, if the opposition party apologizes first and does not withdraw the budget for the reduction, there is no negotiation. No matter how hard it is to push and pull, you shouldn't take the atmosphere like that. The ruling and opposition parties know each other well why these situations are going on. Shouldn't it be seen as a kind of process to strongly observe their position?
◆ Bae Seung-hee: But doesn't the government have the right to budget the budget?
◇ [Park Soo-hyun] Yes, that's right. However, the National Assembly has the right to deliberate on the budget.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. I have the right to confirm the deliberation. The Democratic Party of Korea has cut 4 trillion won in special activity expenses for the presidential office and the prosecution in the budget submitted by the government. However, they did not cut the cost of the National Assembly's activities.
◇ Park Soo-hyun: What the Democratic Party wants to cut as a whole now is not only the cuts, but also the direction of budget planning in 2025 is the difficulty of people's livelihoods due to the tax cuts for the super rich. Isn't the tax revenue deficit already 86 trillion won for two years now? In that respect, the Democratic Party believes that the key is how to inspire people's livelihoods through fiscal expansion. Although the government and the ruling party still had a strict order from the people to change the state of affairs in the general election, it was not reflected in next year's budget at all. There is still a strong tax cut for the super rich. That's why the Democratic Party has no choice but to try to change the budgets of people's livelihood and rural budgets according to the people's orders, right? Is that the Democratic budget? However, none of that will be reflected next year, and I just brought a lot of budgets such as special activity expenses, specific work expenses, and reserve expenses of power institutions. So from our perspective, isn't it the government that needs to tighten its belt? But how can the common people and people's livelihoods negotiate with such a large budget that they are told to tighten their belts? I would like to say that the Democratic Party of Korea is in a desperate mood right now that such state administration and the direction of budgeting must be changed.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. CEO Lee Jae-myung said this. I will try to increase the local budget currency if I make a government amendment. We also talked about Lee Jae-myung's budget while talking about this. How should I accept this?
◇ Park Soo-hyun: It's not Lee Jae-myung's budget. As a result, the Yoon Suk Yeol government is talking about national finance as sound finance, leading to tax cuts for the super rich, and the people's livelihood budget is far short of next year's budget due to the record tax deficit. The Democratic Party argues that the local currency budget is how to inspire the vitality and warmth of the economy, which is more difficult than the IMF, and naming it Lee Jae-myung's budget is a frame for political offensive. In other words, the Democratic Party cut 4.1 trillion won as the anchor said earlier. Let's see what we cut. First of all, it's a reserve fund. The people heard a lot about the reserve fund. How much of the reserve that President Yoon Suk Yeol spent when he moved Cheong Wa Dae to Yongsan. And the people remember how much the reserve money they spent while traveling abroad, saying they would host the Busan Expo. But no government in history has ever exceeded 1.5 trillion won in this reserve. However, the Yoon Suk Yeol government suddenly set aside 4.8 trillion won in this reserve next year. So the Democratic Party of Korea, I see, didn't cut everything, but cut half of it, 2.4 trillion won. That's why, despite such public suspicion and criticism of the reserve funds that have been spent at will, they organized 2.4 trillion won, a significant increase from 1.5 trillion won. Then, while talking about special activity expenses and specific business expenses, drug investigation. Next, he's scared that he can't do various investigations like this. That's definitely not the case. These are already fully reflected in the general investigation expenses of about 127.6 billion won. Among them, expenses for crimes against people's livelihoods and other general investigation support activities include 80 billion won. Is the Democratic Party an idiot? Are you going to be so stubborn? So we also talked about special activity expenses and specific work expenses. Where to use it. Receipts. And if you're going to explain it, explain it. I'm not explaining it at all. Shouldn't it be on the people's side that the opposition parties strongly warn and criticize the government and the ruling party's budgeting for next year, which is not interested in such a budget that allows them to increase their own pocket money and make the economy warm?
◆ Bae Seung-hee: It could be in the short term, but it's also a long-term project. I think it's an investment for the future. Yongsan responds that it will cut 49.7 billion won for the blue whale project drilling project and only 830 million won is left. Why was this cut?
◇ Park Soo-hyun: Then should we look at the Blue Whale Project? Is that what was explained to the people in the National Assembly? One day, when the president suddenly says it's a state briefing, it comes out and the president unilaterally announces it. So, wouldn't the opposition party have really asked and considered in detail what's going on in the course of the parliamentary audit and budget committee? No why would the opposition cut it if it was really explained and proved on a reasonable budget? And as I said earlier, this budget is not a fixed budget. I'd like to inform you that it's in the process. As representative Lee Jae-myung said, if the government brings an amendment to such an increase, it will discuss it as much as possible. Even if it does not pass by the deadline for passing the budget today, the National Assembly Speaker will also demand consultations between the ruling and opposition parties because he has time until December 10, the deadline for the regular session of the National Assembly. We have plenty of time. So, the opposition's amendment to the reduction, which passed the Budget and Accounts Committee on the 29th, has been finalized. In doing this, what should I say about what has been cut and how much has been cut? You shouldn't lie. If the ruling party says it is in the process, not in a fixed state, and that it is willing to discuss such matters, shouldn't the ruling party bring it and discuss it?
◆ Bae Seung-hee: But floor leader Choo Kyung-ho is. The opposition parties are saying, "If you don't steal, apologize, or withdraw your budget, there will be no further negotiations."
◇ Park Soo-hyun: I already told you that you can't talk to the opposition party like that. The attitude of the government and the ruling party should not be like that. Then why did you bring such a budget in the first place? Shouldn't we apologize for that first?
◆ Bae Seung-hee: And Park Chan-dae, the floor leader. If the ruling party's attitude does not change, it will be reduced further. I think it's a threat. How do you see it?
◇ Park Soo-hyun: I think it's a little inappropriate to say that it's a threat.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: I'm sorry. I apologize for the over-expression.
◇ Park Soo-hyun: I told you this is a process. The budget is pushing and pulling each other, and according to their strategies, they also send a message that is a bit high-level, as the anchors said, but isn't that a strategic strategy that can be in the process? I think you can understand that.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Okay. It's in the budget. I think we agreed again on this part of 'Let's postpone taxation on virtual assets for two years'. Like the abolition of this financial investment tax, did representative Lee Jae-myung's decision work?
◇ Park Soo-hyun: It's the result of our long-term discussion with collective intelligence in the party. Isn't it not only a budget bill, but a budget supplementary bill at this time? These are the bills related to income tax, such as the gold investment tax you just mentioned, and the original bill held by the Democratic Party of Korea has decided to pass these bills together except for one or two. There are also ideas for some more normal bills, but in reality, what the people really want, even if it's some people. It is true that, despite strong opposition from within the party, those parts are adjusted by the leadership's decision because of various ideas that should fully reflect such things. Examples include taxation on virtual assets and financial investment taxes.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Can I conclude that Lee Jae-myung's decision worked?
◇ Park Soo-hyun: Anyway, it's a matter of having a long group discussion on the phone and then delegating it to the leadership as a result. That's how you might see it.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: So there's no opposition from within the party anymore?
◇ Park Soo-hyun: If you have any other ideas, you should do supplementary legislation during the grace period for it. For example, in the case of financial investment tax, there are opinions that we should do amendments to the commercial law to make our stock market healthier, so isn't that already proposed and discussed? Let's not just postpone it because of the public opinion of some people, but let's take supplementary legislative measures to supplement it during this period, and I think we can use it like that as a time to prepare well.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Okay. The Democratic Party decided to report the impeachment of the auditor and three prosecutors at today's plenary session. The power of the people protested, saying, "It is an impeachment in retaliation for the audit of the Moon Jae In government." What are your opinions on impeaching the auditor, and impeaching the prosecutor?
◇ Park Soo-hyun: Seeing that the power of the people talks like that, did they retaliate against the Moon Jae In government? But the people will remember it well. The impeachment of prosecutors, such as Lee Chang-soo, head of the Seoul Central District Prosecutors' Office, is not in retaliation for the investigation of Lee Jae-myung, but the indictment of Kim Gun-hee in the Deutsche Motor stock manipulation case, which the public is angry about. Next, the acquittal of the luxury bag. Isn't this the reason why the people are angry and trust in the Yoon Suk Yeol government has fallen to the bottom? And yet you just leave these tests alone? Even if it's unclear whether it's really illegal and passes through the Constitutional Court, the Democratic Party needs to keep telling and reporting to the public about this kind of prosecution's abuse of prosecutorial power. So this is not a prosecutor who investigated Lee Jae-myung, but a one-sided, biased investigation into the Kim Gun-hee issue. How can the people be called to the national security building designated by First Lady Kim Gun-hee to investigate, and their cell phones were confiscated and investigated? How can the government and the ruling party not know such things yet? And the director of the Board of Audit and Inspection. How did you do it? Since you talked about the Moon Jae In government, the Board of Audit and Inspection is the institution that most strongly requires political neutrality and independence. But how did you do it? Didn't the Board of Audit and Inspection stipulate that this is a flag scandal when the audit results have not been released while auditing the manipulation of government statistics in Moon Jae In? Where is political neutrality independence? In this respect, it is self-sufficient and self-contained. The opposition party is asking that on behalf of the people's name, but I'm clear that there's no one in the country who will be deceived by the ruling party for doing so and turning around.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: There is also a possibility that the people's power will change ahead of the re-vote of the Kim Gun-hee Special Prosecutor Act. Senator, in our last interview, you said it was difficult to pass the re-vote, how about now? Have you changed your position?
◇ Park Soo-hyun: What I told you at the time was that when the first trial of the Public Official Election Act was sentenced to prison, the people's power, which was in disarray, was 'Lee Jae-myung sentenced to such a heavy sentence? If we get our act together now, we can come back to power. ’ There was a new atmosphere for a few days. At that time, I said that the so-called eight votes would be a little difficult because the Democratic Party of Korea is gathering with some power of anger, but the people's power is like drinking kimchi soup. And now there are two more variables. Representative Lee Jae-myung's sentence against perjury teacher was acquitted, weakening some motivation for the people to unite again. On top of that, the conflict between the close and the pro-yoon circles has become acute due to the controversy over the bulletin board of the party members, and what did the close and the aunt of the first lady Kim Gun-hee do?In this way, even my aunt participates in the war, but in general, it's over when my aunt appears in the political world.
◆ Is it over? How did it end?
◇ Park Soo-hyun: I think there is a possibility in this re-decision vote because these new variables in the party are created. The reason is that four votes left on the special prosecution bill, which was so vitriolic last time that eight votes were not the problem, but was filled with toxic provisions. However, this time, the number of investigations was drastically reduced from 13 to 2, and representative Han Dong-hoon proposed a third-party special prosecutor in the general election, as well as the authority to recommend the special prosecutor. The Democratic Party of Korea accepted the third-party special prosecution and accepted everything the ruling party was talking about. There is no justification for vetoing this. So I'm confident that those who left the strong special prosecution last time will definitely leave again this time, and I only need to get four more votes. That's why I'm predicting now that there's no possibility.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: It's over when my aunt comes out. Does this mean that the close relationship and the close relationship have completely grown apart?
◇ Park Soo-hyun: That's right. That's right. Even my aunt participated in the war. If my aunt participates in the war, the game is over. This is a myth.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see. So you're saying you're getting 4 more votes from your close friends.
◇ [Park Soo-hyun] That's right.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: The Democratic Party's non-crime group Choirae invited former Prime Minister Kim Boo-kyum to give a special lecture yesterday. Prime Minister Kim Boo-kyum said, "People are disappointed even with the opposition party without alternatives. I pointed this out. How did you like it?
◇ Park Soo-hyun: Of course, that's something you have to accept and think about in pain. It is reasonable to say that we should try to do better and become an alternative force for the authorized party. We have to look back like that, too. And there are questions from the media about whether there is a so-called movement of the screaming world. However, any party wants to unite around the party leader, but only the Democratic Party is divided into pro-life screams and not fighting like that. And these days, it's called the birth name scream. I think I need to organize it with a new concept. Here, the name was changed to Myung Tae-kyun's name, not Lee Jae-myung's name when he screamed. I think so.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: It refers to the power of the people.
◇ Park Soo-hyun: When it comes to relatives, the famous politicians of the People's Power who are now suspected of manipulating public opinion polls by requesting Myung Tae-kyun to manipulate them. The power of the people is devastated. So, to split the Democratic Party's relatives and screams, the people's power is not making such efforts, but rather holding them responsible for revealing their suspicions with Myung Tae-kyun in their own party. It's time to worry about such a pro-Myeong-Tae-gyun. I think so.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: You are also worried about the power of the people. This time in the Democratic Party. I participated in the fifth outdoor rally led by a civic group. There was no representative Lee Jae-myung's speech, but the number of police births was counted as 8,000 on this day. Some say that the power of the Democratic Party's outdoor rallies is weakening. What do you think?
◇ Park Soo-hyun: The outdoor rallies now in 2016 and now are different in character. In 2016, the people poured into the square first during the impeachment rally on the manipulation of state affairs in Park Geun Hye. And political parties are bound to be criticized for their belated participation in the political sector, causing the people to suffer in the very cold winter, and politicians have only put spoons on them. However, this time, the unfortunate situation will not have to happen, but if it is necessary, I cannot ask the people to suffer first. The party should go first. The number of Democrats is decreasing. I hope you don't talk so sarcastically from the power of the people.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Okay. Senator, we don't have time, so we'll stop listening. This has been Park Soo-hyun of the Democratic Party of Korea. Thank you.
◇ Park Soo-hyun: Thank you.
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