[YTN Radio News Fighting Bae Seunghee]
□ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (07:15 - 09:00)
□ Broadcast date and time: November 5, 2024 (Tue)
□ Host: Attorney Bae Seung-hee
□ Castor: Choi Jae-sung, former senior presidential secretary for political affairs
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◆Bae Seunghee: I'm Bae Seunghee, fighting for the news. Time to dig up and forecast the second part of the news. Hello, Choi Jae-sung, former senior presidential secretary for political affairs chef. Hello, I heard you're a black and white chef these days. Yes, cooking programs are popular.
◇ Choi Jae-sung: That's right. It's incredible.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Let's talk with Chef Ye, Political Chef Choi Jae-sung. The transcripts of President Yoon and Myung Tae-kyun have been released. President Lee's voice came out. How did you hear that?
◇Choi Jae-sung: One very thing is the illegality of the matter itself. One is that the president's office gave a false explanation. I lied. False explanation I met with Myung Tae-kyun once or twice, and I have never contacted or met since then. But many people know that it's not true anymore, but Nixon also lied about it. So, the President's lie is not a white lie, for example, but he tried to cover up his problems with this lie, and there are two problems of illegality. I saw both as serious problems.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: The presidential office had a private conversation as the president-elect. And I said that I just did lip service before I got here. They say there's no legal issue.
◇Choi Jae-sung: First of all, I say that, but there's no one to believe that this was just a word. This is also two things. One is the question of whether it is illegal because he is an elected president. The other is that Kim Young-sun was asked to do a nomination just because the president gave an opinion on the nomination, so this is different from the case of President Park Geun Hye. The previous president-elect's status was already when President Yoon Suk Yeol was the head of the Central District Prosecutors' Office, and then the third deputy chief Han Dong-hoon personally briefed on President Lee Myung Bak's bribery case. The parties. The parties who prosecuted this
◆ Bae Seung-hee: That's right. Example
◇Choi Jae-sung: But after winning the primary, President Lee Myung Bak also applied something like receiving money or receiving money after winning the primary in August 2007. the result of a trial However, in this case, which they prosecuted when they were prosecutors, they said it should be applied even before the primary, but the court applied the crime period after President Lee Myung Bak won the presidential election. Of course, it also applied to receiving bribes a month before taking office as the president-elect in January 2008. So the timing issue is exactly where the president and representative Han Dong-hoon prosecuted the president of Lee Myung Bak when they were prosecutors. That's why you can't avoid it. And in terms of content, President Park Geun Hye would not have intervened directly if he had talked about the two issues.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. Ah
◇Choi Jae-sung: It's not about calling and telling someone to do it, but I did it because chief Hyun Kyo-ahn told me to do it. So I don't appear in person. Didn't you do this yourself? The president got it. So in my view, both in terms of timing and content, this is what he did a day before he took office as the president. Both appear to be problematic and obvious.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see. The President of Yoon Suk Yeol made an urgent announcement yesterday. It is said that it will also hold a press conference to address the public on the 7th. Will this be included?
◇Choi Jae-sung: I'm not sure what to do. He's going to do it. No, I'm going to do
◆ Bae Seung-hee: We're having a press conference.
◇Choi Jae-sung: I did this on a show. The president once asked me what I should say when I speak in a city administration speech. So I said I don't think I'll come to the National Assembly, but I don't. And even if the lyrics are on the 7th, it's like this. You have to have a clear awareness of the problem in this situation, have the will to solve the first, second, or this, and then have a way or ability to solve the third problem. However, since there are none of these three things, I think that the level of perception of the situation is remote, so I think this can boost another national anger even if I see it because I don't have the will and ability to solve it. I can't solve it, so I don't have the will to
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Then you came out last week and said that the last Gallup poll said it was 20%, but I expect it to go to the 10% level. Does the approval rating decline even if we hold a conference?
◇Choi Jae-sung: I think the issue of approval ratings is going to be a little bit now. So, the end of the 10th, the end of the second, the end of the second, the end of the 10th, the end of the second, the end of the 10th, the end of the 10th, the end of the 10th, the end of the 10th, the end of the 10th, the end of the 10th,
◆ Bae Seung-hee: The flat price is like this
◇Choi Jae-sung: Because it's actually a huge 20% collapse. That's right. Except for those who abstained in the presidential election, the remaining 80% of the vote is converted, so if you say you got 50% of the vote, you actually got about 38% of the vote. That's right. If you look at the entire voter, that's why the approval rating is halved. That's right. So the president's approval rating is 19% or 17%. The collapse of 20% means that the basic energy to run state affairs has just disappeared. But it's a very difficult problem to go down further from here.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Then do you go in the direction of collapsing even in the 10% range? Former President Kim Roh Moo Hyun
as he did in the Roh Moo Hyun.
◇Choi Jae-sung: I think it will eventually reach the level of delinquent interest rates now
◆ Bae Seung-hee: What is the percentage of overdue interest rate?
◇Choi Jae-sung: Usually, when the secondary financial sector does this, about 8% or 9% of it is like that. You have to feel the problem consciousness you mentioned earlier, have a clear awareness, have the will to solve this problem, and then have a solution and ability, but this doesn't work. I'm in this administration now. What do you think of this situation now? The people don't know well. Fake news is to blame. Next, Lee Jae-myung is to blame. The former government is to blame. It's all been this consistent, so I didn't do anything wrong. This is unfair. And you're not blaming the people for the problem because they're all different people. Discussing fake news and stuff like this is serious in my opinion. As a result, I've been talking about the state administration system itself since the beginning of this administration. From what I see, Mrs. Kim Gun-hee. During the presidential election, when I gave a speech supporting candidate Lee Jae-myung because I was the Democratic Party of Korea, I said this. What do you mean by saying that if you vote for one president, but you vote for Yoon Suk Yeol, you will actually vote for two presidents. So I raised the issue of Kim Gun-ik at that time. And even in the early days of this administration, he said it was a joint government, and the relationship between the two is Kim Gun-ik, who has an upper hand. This is a serious problem because of the superiority of the relationship between a couple. It doesn't have a second annex. That's what I said. That's why the people are seeing that situation. So even if the president has to go and solve this somehow, many of the causes come from First Lady Kim Gun-hee. There's a separate subject for solving it. That's why I said that. Yoon Han Dokdae Yoon Han meeting will not be solved by meeting President Yoon and Representative Han Dong-hoon, but all the issues that Representative Han Dong-hoon demanded are related to Kim Gun-wook.
◆ Bae Seunghee: Yes, yes
◇Choi Jae-sung: Namdong Line's personnel reform, and things like that are related to Kim Gun-hee. That's why the president has not been able to stand properly as the main agent of the resolution, as there is a separate party and the president has the greatest influence when it comes to solving it through First Lady Kim Gun-hee and Han Dong-hoon's private meeting. So it's a very bizarre phenomenon.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Kim Min-jung, People's Power, said in relation to the poll, "The poll reliability is questionable with the poll's gate, what does the poll mean?"
◇Choi Jae-sung: This. I don't even feel the need to talk about former lawmaker Kim Min. Because even if you had a kind of fabricated poll that was wrong, you reported it to the president, you reported it to the presidential candidate, and you didn't publish it with it, you could spread it and shake up some normal election situation, and in a very classic way, there were people who did it in party races in the past. So it's more like you're winning with some sort of bubble or fabricated poll, so it's even more of a problem. So, former lawmaker Kim Min is talking about something completely different from the nature of the issue, so it's even more problematic if it's what former lawmaker Kim Min said.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: This is breaking news right now. It is said that the Joint Chiefs of Staff fired ballistic missiles into the East Sea of North Korea. I'll let you know as soon as I get the details. Let's continue with the interview. The Democratic Party held a large-scale outdoor rally. First Lady Kim Gun-hee pressed the government and the ruling party with the Special Prosecutor Act. It doesn't look like there's a lot more than expected. The police estimate is 1.7 million, but the Democratic Party said 100,000 people gathered, but there was also a commotion to fix it to 300,000. How do you look at these parts?
◇ Choi Jae-sung: Seoul is always different from the police estimation. It's always different from the organizers of the rally. Isn't it too different? It's so different. So I've pointed out the problem of police estimation a lot before. There's a way for the police to estimate. I have pointed out its problems. For me, 20,000 people, 100,000 people, or 300,000 people, is not a big issue. So what's important? Now, I think the Democratic Party has set its direction well. All right. If we keep talking about impeachment, this is the situation at the time of Park Geun Hye, and even if we don't endure it, we can go to impeachment only when legal factors work. But it's not at that stage yet. So, in my opinion, the direction of resignation is a good arrangement. However, impeachment and other issues are always boiling inside, but it is a good thing to set the direction of resignation in a situation where it is difficult to put it to the forefront.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Didn't CEO Han Dong-hoon ask for an apology from the president? Will President Lee Yoon accept the president's apology? I'd like to apologize to Mrs. Kim Gunwook or something like
◇Choi Jae-sung: I think it's possible. Now. The president's or the ruling party's solutions. The people's expectations and expectations don't match here.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: It doesn't fit. Apples are also
◇Choi Jae-sung: No, and I'm going to say that an apple is a real dog. What's wrong with the people is that. The issue of Kim Gun-hee's luxury bag is not something that the people are already kneeling down and praying for an apology. But it's the least. But without that, it just comes straight. But now, it's an apple. For example, CEO Han Dong-hoon talks about the special inspection. So it's not an essential solution in this situation in my view. That's why I said that what doesn't fit the public's eye level is a solution. I also did it without being able to properly solve the problem of the special inspection team and draw conclusions like that. So I said that it's not the essence and it's not a big deal, and that it's going to be a subject within the ruling party that Chairman Han Dong-hoon can't even solve with the subject that caused a rebellion, but that's what happens.
◇ Choi Jae-sung: That's why the president's apology is to solve this mess of the president's leadership, which is such a mess of state affairs.
◆Bae Seung-hee: Why do you insist on this when it comes to representative Han Dong-hoon's apology, Kim's immediate suspension of activities, and a complete reorganization of the staff? What's the essence of this? One
◇Choi Jae-sung: I think CEO Han Dong-hoon is the minimum step in differentiating himself from President Yoon Suk Yeol as the leader of the ruling party in relation to the president.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: It's not too fast
◇Choi Jae-sung: No, that's not true. They've already crossed the river that they can't come back, and the president called Yongsan and did it as if he was overpowering Han Dong-hoon, and they're not scenes that go beyond neglect. And as soon as representative Han Dong-hoon came out, he said, "I will follow the public sentiment by talking about the special inspection." So the two of them are not just conflicts, but in a way, they are quickly differentiated because they have now encountered each other at this stage of a power struggle. The differentiation is that the situation is already made like that. That's how I'm going. However, I think this was the least step the ruling party leader could take, even though he knows that this is not a solution.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: It was a minimal step. But I think CEO Han Dong-won is meeting CEO Lee Jae-myung in another way. Representative Lee Jae-myung also said to representative Han Dong-woo, "Meet the president and talk about changing the state administration." He said, "Let's meet again when we get back," but I think representative Han Dong-woo has not heard anything at all. Wouldn't CEO Han Dong-hoon join hands with CEO Lee Jae-myung and try to change this direction?
◇ Choi Jae-sung: I can't hold hands. Now, as the leader of the party, I think we have no choice but to do politics that we can meet and meet as the leader of the ruling and opposition parties. As much as possible, the president's voice has been released. It's just difficult to proceed right away in this situation. It's inevitable for the leaders of the ruling and opposition parties to meet and talk, but it's hard for Han Dong-geun to do that politically to hold hands or make a big fuss. Shall we meet? I know.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Shall we meet before the sentencing?
◇Choi Jae-sung: Where?
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Shall we meet before the sentencing on November 15th? Or 25 days in advance
◇Choi Jae-sung: I think we should pass it in the current situation. After the 25th, no, I think it's too late. After the 25th, it's usually 15 days before or after, but 15 days is difficult because there are many procedures and things to review each other in terms of content before meeting objectively. It is meaningless for me to analyze or predict the date to meet Lee Jae-myung based on the trial of representative Lee Jae-myung
◆ Bae Seung-hee: But we can meet after the 15th. 25 days prior to
◇Choi Jae-sung: I think so. Don't meet in November
◆ Bae Seung-hee: The Democratic Party leadership has now concluded that the gold tax will be abolished. If you look at CEO Lee Jae-myung's recent strides, he seems to be doing a wide range, so should I say it's part of that? Let's listen to it briefly.
◇Choi Jae-sung: That's right. But that's what I was a little disappointed about in the last presidential election. The public knows that Lee Jae-myung, the candidate for the Yoon Suk Yeol of the economy, is not an economic expert and does not know the economy well, but why Lee Jae-myung is the economic president did not give sufficient differentiation or discrimination. I'll do everything I can. I got away with everything I didn't vote for. So, even for the financial investment tax, I need to analyze it comprehensively and come up with a comprehensive plan to show at least the collection capacity with this one, rather than the question of whether it is abolished or not. This disappointment
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Okay. I think we need to make up to here today's news wave. So far, I've been with political chef Choi Jae-sung, former senior presidential secretary for political affairs. Thank you. Thank you.
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