[YTN Radio News Fighting Bae Seunghee]
□ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (07:15 - 09:00)
□ Broadcast date and time: November 22, 2024 (Fri)
□ Host: Attorney Bae Seung-hee
□ Cast: Former lawmaker Seol Hoon
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◆ Attorney Bae Seung-hee (hereinafter referred to as Bae Seung-hee): I'm Bae Seung-hee, the news fighting on my way to work. We will continue with the third part of the issue interview. The Democratic Party of Korea has started to protect Lee Jae-myung since the first trial of Lee Jae-myung's violation of the Public Official Election Act. In addition to forming a party-level defense team, controversy has arisen as it has pushed for an amendment to lower the standards for punishment of election laws. In this regard, we will connect with former lawmaker Seol Hoon to talk. Are you here?
◇ Former lawmaker Seol Hoon (hereinafter referred to as Seol Hoon): Yes, it's Seol Hoon. Nice to meet you.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: After the first trial ruling of Lee Jae-myung, the movement of the screaming world is drawing attention. In the middle. Rep. Choi Min-hee will kill if he moves toward the screaming world. There was a controversy for making these remarks. Senator, what did you think?
◇ Seol-hoon: Yes, it was a shock. I couldn't help but think that Chae-min has changed like this, almost like a gangster or criminal. After becoming the chairman of the standing committee, I thought, "You don't know what's scary about this," but on the other hand, I also think, "Is this guy drunk on this power?" It's a great position for the standing committee chairman. I see, the National Assembly. That's why I think he is full of pride. So if these people are protecting Lee Jae-myung, it would be a big deal. It's not something else because it's a big deal, but because Lee Jae-myung is the leader of the Democratic Party of Korea, I thought that it would be cut off by the Democratic Party of Korea. So the expression "kill" can be disliked by him. If you did it, then it was my fault. I had to sincerely apologize that I said it wrong, but when I looked at what I said after that, it sounded similar to what I said was wrong, not an apology. Then, as one of the so-called politicians, I'm in the field of politics.I'm so ashamed of myself. Right. It's a big deal if you just say publicly what gangsters and criminals can say. What would the people say when they see this?
◆ Bae Seung-hee: I know. So there was a controversy over this part, so he said it as an apology.
◇Seol-hoon: But that's not an apple. From the listener's point of view, it was similar to a very stirring story. Did it start again? Isn't it so? You're the same Democrat, right? That's right. As a member of the Democratic Party of Korea, you need to have at least some sense of duty and dignity. How can you say that publicly that you're going to kill me?
◆ Bae Seung-hee: I know.
◇ Seol-hoon: That can't happen. So I have to make a real apology for that, but seeing that he doesn't apologize, I can't help but think that this person has changed a lot, I'm in trouble, and I'm worried about the future.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. Regarding this, the party is focusing its power on integrating with the father of the Democratic Party of Korea and the priest of God, the servant of God, Lee Jae-myung. How do you see these remarks?
◇ Seol-hoon: The main character of this remark is Rep. Lee Hae-sik. Rep. Lee Hae-sik is my junior and a very precious junior, so I was surprised to think about how he made this statement. This is not a religious group. And is this Kim Jong Un? It's about how it can be like this. I'm not this over-loyal, and I haven't seen my expertise.Even so, this expression doesn't make sense to talk about words like this.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes
◇ Seol Hoon: This is not helping CEO Lee Jae-myung, but killing him together. If you're saying something that doesn't help you to say, "I'm sorry for killing me," you have no choice but to naturally say, "What are these people, Democrats, what are they doing?"
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. I think so. The Democratic Party. In addition, a judge-turned lawmaker proposed a revision to the Public Official Election Act, which calls for a fine of 1 million won to 10 million won or eliminating the crime of publicizing false information. It seems to show the image of saving Lee Jae-myung, but what else do you think about this part?
◇ Seol-hoon: I know. I don't know if you're saving Lee Jae-myung because of the situation.But when I talk about this, I have no choice but to say, "This is Lee Mangguak, Bangtan." Right. Even if we have this problem, isn't it the timing to talk about it now? The timing is only left with the impression that this is the performance study, so this is not something to say right now. That's why politics is about timing. It's just right to do it now. If it's part of Lee Jae-myung's archaeology, it's easy for the people to say things like "Oh, my God."
◆ Bae Seung-Hee: Yes, yes.
◇Sulhun: It was radical. I'm sorry, anyway, we have to look at what the people will judge on this part.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. However, despite this situation, they decided to invite former Prime Minister Kim Boo-kyum to give a special lecture on Kang on the 1st of next month on the first day of the Scream Group. Should I look at it with the movement of the screaming world?
◇Seol-hoon: Screaming world has a talisman. I think there will be about 40 to 50 people who have not been nominated in the general election in May. Specifically, they're more of a social group than George when they're close to an organization. If there is such a thing, we get together as soon as the time comes. All right. They're people who work together in politics, so if you need anything, you can get together in a week. Right. Because of that situation, even if the organization doesn't work, it's still active and looking at the situation.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: So the movement of Governor Kim Dong-hyun is also drawing a lot of attention, but CEO Lee Jae-myung visited the traditional market with Governor Kim Dong-hyun again. Does that mean don't move?
◇Seol-hoon: I don't know what's on my mind.Ma will judge that the party should not be shaken because of the situation. We need to unite around ourselves, but I think the most repulsive part is Governor Kim Dong-hyun. However, from the perspective of Governor Kim Dong-hyun, I think CEO Lee Jae-myung suggested this meeting first, but it is not easy to defeat it. I'm the party leader, but I think it was a very difficult meeting. There's no justification not to accompany you to a traditional market and there's no real benefit. You have to respect that because you are the leader of the party. So I think we did it together, but from Governor Kim Dong-hyun's point of view, I don't know if it was working or not, and I don't know how it will change when the situation progresses. However, now that I am a party member, it is right to act together, and the main goal of reviving the economy in the traditional market now is to go together, so it is natural to go together. Yes.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: There is also a movement within the party to find an alternative to Lee Jae-myung. In the pro-Myeong community, Kim Min-seok and Chung Cheong-rae mentioned the acting system. How do you rate it?
◇Seol-hoon: Would it be complete just because the agency system does it? They think that representative Lee Jae-myung will create an agency system and do what they want, but that doesn't make sense. No matter who it is, once you become the party leader, it is separate from your predecessor. It's supposed to go back separately. I don't know if people like Lee Jae-myung or his closest friends think that way.If you think about it like that, it's ridiculous. I'm saying it without knowing the situation in the political field, but that's when the representative changes. Naturally, the representative is supposed to move forward while exercising the regime. The imaginary pressure is absolutely impossible. Onsite
◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see.
◇ Seol-hoon: Such a dream itself is useless, and I think it would be a wise way to wait quietly and take time to look back on yourself when such a situation comes.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Isn't CEO Lee Jae-myung about to be sentenced to the first trial of perjury teacher on the 25th? If he is convicted again here, the repercussions will be considerable. Will Lee Jae-myung's resignation be mentioned?
◇ Seol-hoon: But didn't the National Assembly approve this part when Lee Jae-myung's arrest agreement was posted at the end of the 21st National Assembly? I passed it, but the court didn't agree to arrest me, saying that arrest was justified, but I didn't arrest him, but at that time, the teacher Wijung's part was quoted. That's right. At least I accepted the quote. Because there is such an issue, I don't think there is much reason for the judiciary to make a different judgment now. I think I'm sure I'm guilty, but the question is how much I'm going to hit my brother. It's a unique authority that this court has and it will be the judge's judgment, but in my opinion, it's not been arrested.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: You can't be arrested even if you get a prison sentence.
◇ Seol-hoon: I don't think it will be a suspended prison sentence, and I think it will be a form of hitting the prison sentence and not arresting him, but that's my argument, and the judge's judgment is bound to be different. It's a matter to watch, but if CEO Lee Jae-myung does so, he will protest compared to Ang Bang Block in this situation. But for me, it's best to stay quiet in this situation.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: It's good to be quiet.
◇ Seol-hoon: So it's wise to accept it and quietly say, "Time is not my time anymore, it's time to wait."
◆ Bae Seung-hee: So is it right to resign? Then, wouldn't it be right to resign as a representative?
◇Seol-hoon: It's common sense to resign. Because it's only a matter of time, and it's the result of just bringing it to the party. There are a lot of people to represent the party. Since you can do it as much as you want and there are many ways to make the Democratic Party a good party, you should look back on yourself and say, "I've come a little too far. Now I'm going to take a break and see the situation." The best way is to judge. I'm not saying this because I like CEO Lee Dae-young, but if you have a real aide, it would be the best policy to wait for this situation quietly like that while making such a sincere statement. Let's do that. You have to say it like this. It's not like that, and if the judiciary does this anyway, it will only create a situation that is more and more against itself.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: However, the Democratic Party of Korea is also considering supporting the ruling of the Public Official Election Act at the party level, including lawyer expenses. He said that if Lee Jae-myung's ruling is confirmed, he will now have to return 43.4 billion won in presidential election expenses. How do you look at this part?
◇Seol-hoon: Wouldn't this be a problem for making false remarks during the presidential election of the election law, and the probation of prison sentences will drop now? So, I have to give out the compensation of 43.4 billion won for the election, but if you think about it. This was done when I was mayor of Seongnam and it has nothing to do with us. It was done in his personal position, but this is just what the trial is doing now. That's why it's nonsense to say that the party needs to preserve it.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Then CEO Lee Jae-myung should pay.
◇Seol-hoon: It's right for individuals to pay. That's right, but there are also parts that the sugar did wrong. Because it is true to some extent that the party should be responsible for this situation because a person with such flaws was nominated as a candidate. Then the party and Lee Jae-myung individual representative Lee Jae-myung should try to solve this problem together. I'll pay because I did this wrong by shaking off my priest. I'll give it to you, too, because it's my fault. However, since the trial was conducted during the presidential election process, the party had no choice but to do it together. So, I will take responsibility and protest or do the best I can. I think this is the right way to do it. I think you have to take responsibility for what you are responsible for.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: That's why the party should return all of them. You're saying that this is absurd.
◇ Seol-hoon: Yes, it's a grade. You have to give your apology and agree to take responsibility for it and pay it back, so that's the attitude of a responsible politician.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Okay. This time, the Democratic Party of Korea is holding an outdoor rally, and it has issued a ban on blue clothes to party members ahead of the outdoor rally. The purpose is to get more ordinary people to participate in the assembly. How do you see the outdoor rally itself?
◇Seol-hoon: But it's cold now, and I heard that the rally is getting less mobilized. Then I need to take some tissues. Protests should be made effective when it is a protest of a rally, and if it becomes chronic, it will be less effective. I feel like I'm doing it again. That's what happens. The assembly or demonstration is done to show one's strong will, but it doesn't work because if you do it every day, it becomes some kind of expression of consciousness and it's just like, "Oh, it's normal again." That's why the mobilization power is gradually decreasing, but in this case, you have to rest and endure it while watching it and wait for the opportunity, but if you let it go like this on the first day of meeting, it will be more tiring than help, and the power of the party members will gradually decrease. It's natural. I need to rest now because of that.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: You said you need to take a rest, but the reason for the rally is the impeachment of the Yoon Suk Yeol regime, but there is also an interpretation that it is actually trying to influence the ruling of Representative Lee Jae-myung.
◇Seol-hoon: It's because it's tied together. The format is that the Yoon Suk Yeol regime should step down, but in terms of content, there is another bulletproof against representative Lee Jae-myung. It's difficult because these two are together, but isn't that why people say don't wear blue clothes and don't wear them? Everyone acknowledges that the Yoon Suk Yeol government is in a mess. That's why I have to leave. Because of this, there are many people who agree on that point. I agree with you. However, if you look behind it, you know that there is a flow of bulletproofness about representative Lee Jae-myung, so people who know don't want to go. It's okay to oppose the Kim Yoon Suk Yeol administration, but looking at the bottom of it, it's not easy to go out and agree because there's something like this that helps Lee Jae-myung's impeachment. It's not easy to go out and agree
◆ Bae Seung-hee: So you're saying that it doesn't work even if you impose a ban on blue clothes.
◇Seol-hoon: I don't think it's going to be very helpful. At this point, if Lee Jae-myung really wants to hurt the Yoon Suk Yeol government, he will resign from his position. From now on, I will attack Yoon Suk Yeol President Lee Jae-myung. You have to step back. You have to go out like this. He himself will resign as a representative, resign as a member of the National Assembly, and only receive my trial. However, the people cheer when they say, "President Yoon Suk Yeol, step down."
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Rep. Lee Jae-myung should resign and the president should step down.
◇Seol-hoon: I think that's the only way the people will say, "That's right."
◆ Bae Seung-hee: You're calling for Lee Jae-myung's resignation.
◇ Seol-hoon: We should resign. If you resign and point out your mistakes about President Yoon Suk Yeol, the people will follow you. However, if you just say that you will do it and that you didn't do anything wrong, it's not easy for the people to agree and therefore you can't mobilize.
◆Bae Seung-Hee: Resign as a member of Parliament Representative Lee Jae-myung
◇Seol-hoon: You have to put this out, too.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: I asked you to put down your parliamentary seat, but CEO Lee Jae-myung is... He compares himself to President Lula of Brazil and claims that prosecution is a political oppression.
◇Seol-hoon: The part of political oppression. For example, if what representative Lee Jae-myung has done is 10, about 2 out of 10 is political oppression. However, 8 is the result of CEO Lee Jae-myung's fault. If you say that all of them are political oppression, the people laugh. I admit that the government and the ruling party are going too far. But the people say that it's 10 kinds of 8 that representative Lee Jung-hyun is not at fault. You have to acknowledge that. If it's all political oppression, the people shake their heads. No, it's a little bit of political oppression and a lot more of your fault, so I think this is what the people are seeing.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Then why don't we talk about this when Lee Jae-myung resigns as a lawmaker?
◇ Seol-hoon: I know. It works. You have to come out like, "Lee Jae-myung is really doing it right." It has to come out so that it can't be delayed. The trial continues, and something that seems likely to move on to this committee is presented. Is this all you can do? If the results come out on the 25th, you have to come out as a report committee member and as a representative to fight the Yoon Suk Yeol in earnest.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes, he will resign from his original position
◇ Seol Hoon: I hope so.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Think you're going to resign as a lawmaker.
◇Seol-hoon: You don't do it, do you? If you do, I'll be
◆ Bae Seunghee: Do you support it?
◇ Seol-hoon: I'll think that you're born again.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Okay. I'd like to ask you a personal question. Don't you want to go back to the Democratic Party?
◇ Seol-hoon: It's not a reinstatement as the Democratic Party, but all the people in the opposition party should unite now. I think it is our task to unite together and make it a new party after Chairman Lee Jae-myung steps down together. Chairman Lee Jae-myung and the ruling and opposition parties will proudly unite the ruling party. People who were in the ruling party in the past will unite and become like this, but in my opinion, I think it will be the right judgment to squeeze out this game.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see. I see. Thank you for your words today.
◇Seol-hoon: Yes, thank you.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: This has been Seol Hoon. Thank you.
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