◆ [YTN Radio SHINYUL's news]
■ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (17:00-19:00)
■ Air date: November 28, 2024 (Thursday)
■ Proceedings: Shin Yul, Professor of Political Science and Diplomacy at Myongji University
■ Dialogue: Kim Jong-hyuk, Supreme Council Member for People's Power
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- Kim Ok-gyun project' toward Han Dong-hoon is working
- It's just a straightforward story of 'party bulletin board controversy' and
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- 'Lee Jae-myung-centered' democracy returns to dynastic era
- The Democratic Party of Korea impeaches 12 prosecutors and even damages the Public Official Election Act
◆ Shin Yul: YTN Radio's Shin Yul's news head-to-head match Part 1 will be decorated with the best quality as I just said. Kim Jong-hyuk, the supreme council member of the People's Power, is here. Please come in.
◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: Hello.
◆ Shin Yul: I think you're going to have a hard time these days. No, yesterday and today, the search and seizure, yes, but they were a little quiet. In other cases, for example, if you try to do another party, you're not going to be scrumming, but you seem to take it quietly.
◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: Last time, there was a raid on the Democratic Party. But at that time, we criticized him very strongly after seeing him make a scrum and block things. So, from our point of view, there is no justification for the ruling party to prevent the prosecution from obtaining a search warrant and conducting a search. Moreover, we are the ruling party. In the meantime, people say that the Democratic Party of Korea is a prosecution republic and a prosecution dictatorship, but I want to ask. No, it's a prosecution dictatorship and the prosecution's republic, but in a way, the prosecution, which is a subordinate, confiscates and searches the ruling party's headquarters, which is the heart of power? So it doesn't make sense for the Democratic Party to claim that. However, we cannot deny that we are very sorry and shameful to the people because of the search and seizure. Because that's what I thought at first. At first, a never-before-seen person named Myung Tae-kyun appeared and disclosed the contents of the phone call with the president or the text record with his wife, so I thought that a wandering political broker somehow became something with the president and won a recording and then went crazy over it. The same goes for text messages with the lady, but as the investigation progressed and the media began tracking down, I realized it wasn't that simple. Aren't the mayors, provincial governors, lawmakers, and former party leaders mentioned one after another in our party so that no one is mentioned? As a result, we are quite embarrassed and very sorry to the people and party members because this friend says that he exercised his nomination and even gave someone a job in the presidential office. In fact, the people and party members didn't know when it happened, but reporters didn't know either. I didn't know, and in a way, I don't know what kind of power the few had colluded with him or held his hand, but since there is a suspicion that something inappropriate happened regarding personnel appointments in relation to the nomination, we should make a public apology for that from the perspective of our current leadership. I am terribly sorry to the people. That's what I'm saying. After that, when I saw the search and seizure, I heard that he pin-pointed a lot.
◆ Sin Yul: So you know exactly what to bring?
◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: That's right. I don't know how the people who were the nomination committee members at the time received the reference statements from them, but I'm worried that this might be spreading in a very different direction in some cases. It's like walking on thin ice.
◆ Shin Yul: When Supreme Council member Kim Jong-hyuk is the editor-in-chief of a major media company. Wasn't that 22 years ago?
◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: No, I'm the editor in 1912. It's been a long time.
◆ Shin Yul: Anyway, a person named Myung Tae Kyun suddenly came into the spotlight, so I don't know what's going on right now. But there's another question, Mrs. Kim Gun-hee. A revision of the recommendation rules for permanent special prosecutor candidates led by the Democratic Party passed the National Assembly. In this case, the ruling party can also recommend the candidates for the permanent special prosecution, but won't they be able to do it anymore? Then what happens to this eventually? If the National Assembly does it, I think it will do it. I think I can do it.
◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: Of course. So it's a permanent special prosecutor, but the original purpose is
◆ Shin Yul: Whether the president does it or the National Assembly does it
◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: The purpose of the permanent special prosecution was to agree between the ruling and opposition parties, but since the opposition party is now in the majority, this is not something that can be vetoed. You just have to change the rules. So I don't think there's much way for the Democratic Party to push ahead with it and not do a permanent special prosecution. You can't even veto it. But I want to tell you to choose between the two. No, he said he would do a permanent special prosecution against First Lady Kim Gun-hee, and he would also fight outside. And the independent counsel law will be posted again on the 10th of next month. I just want to tell you to do that because I feel like I'm just going to be Kim Gun-hee in the middle of everything in state affairs.
◆ Shin Yul: But what was reported this morning by CEO Han Dong-hoon? It was reported that Kim Gun-hee would consider re-decision on the special prosecution law, but CEO Han Dong-hoon said, "I never said that." I cut it. But in fact, there have been a lot of reports about the change in the policy of the Special Prosecutor's Office Kim Gun-hee, so I don't know why this is being reported so much. This is not what CEO Han Dong-hoon said.
◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: So it's two things. So, one is that the so-called pro-yoon group is attacking the party bulletin board controversy over the party bulletin board incident, or those who were in the president's office are participating in the war. So from people's point of view, CEO Han Dong-hoon also bothers me in this way. And is it even the 25th? Even on the 25th, even on the day of the second sentence against Chairman Lee Jae-myung, former Supreme Council member Kim Min pointed out the attack, and at that time, the report was not about our party's united voice against Chairman Lee Jae-myung, but it was just an internal dispute. So CEO Han Dong-hoon also said, "Isn't this the so-called Kim Ok-gyun project working?"
◆ Shin Yul: As far as I know, accountant Kim Kyung-ryul has now mentioned that.
◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: So, no, but as soon as I became the leader last time, I was elected as the party leader on July 23, and even if Han Dong-hoon becomes the leader, it won't last long. Like Kim Ok-gyun, even if it's not three days, it won't last three months. I can't stand six months after three months. These things actually went back and forth. However, it raises the widespread question of whether such things are actually being implemented, so while watching it, people around you can think that if CEO Han Dong-hoon doesn't stay still. If you try to kill yourself in that way, you can guess that you will fight back with the fact that it is a special prosecutor. Of course, I think that's one of the bases. Second, as I said earlier, the Changwon District Prosecutors' Office is investigating the prosecution by obtaining a search warrant related to Myung Tae-kyun, and the Changwon District Prosecutors' Office seems to be conducting a wide, extensive, and very in-depth investigation. Then, in addition to the Changwon District Prosecutors' Office investigation, there are also media tracking and data held by the opposition party, so when and where
◆ Sin-ryul: The opposition party also has money?
◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: No, the voice recording. When we talk about when and how we're going to pop this, we're just saying, "This isn't a problem." But if something surprising comes out, isn't it actually very difficult for us to defend ourselves? So we have no choice but to watch in the current situation. I think there is a kind of speculative report about how it will proceed and if so, on the 10th, the special prosecutor's bill will be submitted to the special prosecutor's office on the 10th, and one representative may say, "I don't know, let's just go."
◆ Voiceover: Speculative reporting. CEO Han Dong-hoon has never said that. I've talked about this clearly, but how can we solve the problem of the party bulletin board now?
◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: I don't know what it is to fix it,
◆ In any case, the conclusion is a bit too loud.
◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: It's too loud, but it doesn't make sense that such a small problem has spread to this extent. So at first, even major media didn't pay attention. I was like, what's wrong with that? At first, CEO Han Dong-hoon wrote a comment saying that a dog leash should be hung on Kim Gun-hee's neck. He claimed that several similar comments were found in Han Dong-hoon's family name, and he tried to systematically manipulate public opinion by using an organizational machine in a way called a macro. Didn't you claim three things like this? But the first fact is that not all three are true. So I know the fourth one, but reveal whether it's your family or not. And what's next is that Han Dong-hoon resigns as the party leader and retires from politics, right? It turns out that all the claims made in the previous part are not true, but what's left now is your family. No, and I'm telling you to retire from politics and resign as a representative. Then, we have no choice but to think that this is not a logical argument, but a kind of pledge to drag down the representative by catching a real trick, so we cannot resist it and be sucked into the frame created by those people. Whatever the answer is, it's only to bite and hurt and attack again, so I'm thinking that I won't be involved in such a frame, but today, floor leader Choo Kyung-ho said,
◆ Sin-ryul: Did you say, "Let's get some coolers?"
◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: But I don't understand that this is a problem with a cooler. Is it a problem to have a cooler? So, for example, I'm also a politician now. I'm also a member of the Supreme Council, but our son and daughter are on the bulletin board of our party members. I was in there, but someone went into an anonymous bulletin board and typed my son's name. And two people with the same name as my son came out. So tell me, hey, I think your son is in there, explain it. What would I say then? Hey, why did you mention it in the anonymous bulletin board with your real name and find out whether it was our son's name or not, and my son is an adult and has his own personality. Why should I explain to you what he wrote? I don't know if there's something legally wrong with his writing or something extremely insulting, but why wouldn't I tell you to explain it like that? It's the same thing. Except that some articles that are up there are the same names as CEO Han Dong-hoon's family members, there are no articles that matter if you are the same person. But at first, even if it was a huge slander, it was decided as if it were about the president and his wife, and it was dismissed as not true, so later, it was decided that it was family or not, right? But this is a frame to attack from the beginning. That's what I think.
◆ Shin-yul: But now, Mrs. Kim Gun-hee's aunt has attacked Shin Ji-ho, the head of the Strategic Planning Department, by saying a lot of harsh words and exaggerating expressions. I think the version is gradually changing.
◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: Shin Ji-ho, the head of the Strategic Planning Department, said, "So we're talking about that, too. People who have the same name as CEO Han Dong-hoon criticized the president even though his family didn't do anything, but in reality, the president's own aunt, Kim, is pouring out such rude talk about the president right now. If you look at it, you should destroy four generations of Han's relatives and relatives. Then, I get struck by lightning, and the family members are really... There are really bad words that can't be seen normally and can't be quoted. However, it would be pathetic for the people to see that the president's family was actually saying, "Can the president's family actually curse the party leader this much?" Honestly.
◆ Shin Yul: But do you think this disturbance will affect the re-vote of the Special Prosecutor's Office Act by Kim Gun-hee?
◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: It's going to have an impact. I don't think it will affect you. So last time, about 4 votes were left. But we also said that the representative himself said, "This is party theory, so we need to stop it," and we called one by one and said, "We shouldn't go because this will be misunderstood." Nevertheless, since the departure vote came out, I think people will be agitated by how the pollack bacteria case goes now.
◆ Shin Yul: Could you explain in detail about the case of Myung Taekyun?
◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: So, for example, in relation to Myung Tae-kyun, if more things related to the president or the first lady are revealed, or if public opinion worsens, lawmakers can be agitated. But I believe that it will not come in the hope that such a situation will not come, but if you look at the process of the investigation now while searching and seizure, we are actually walking on thin ice.
◆ Sin-ryul: The issue of Myung-Tae-kyun may, in part, affect the overall landscape within the passport. There are people who do this kind of analysis.
◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: Yes, because as you can see, senior lawmakers and even Mayor Oh Se-hoon, who was expected to be the next presidential candidate.
◆ Shin Yul: You're like
◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: He's completely and completely in denial, and that's what I believe. I believe so, but anyway, it's being talked about continuously, so it's being hit a lot. So we're in a difficult situation right now.
◆ Shin Yul: Right now, the Democrats will file charges against each charge. I think it's in this position right now. Don't you have something about Myung Taekyun? I'm going to file a complaint with this. We're talking about this, but the reason why the Democratic Party of Korea is coming out like this is because I think we're looking for a number of calls between Myung Tae-kyun and Kim, for example, to file a complaint about things like this. In fact,
◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: We will find out which Democratic Party has what content
◆ Sin Yul: No one knows that.
◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: It's a strategic issue for the Democratic Party because we don't know. So I don't think it's appropriate to comment on that until I'm specific about it.
◆ Shin Yul: But the Changwon District Prosecutors' Office has investigated the issue, and since it has been raided twice, I think we need to conclude the issue quickly. In the case of Myung Taekyun, was it yesterday? I even applied for bail the day before yesterday, but it was rejected. So if it continues to develop in this way, how will this problem be solved if we conclude it quickly? Some say that since it is limited to the nomination of political funds in the relationship between former lawmaker Kim Young-sun and Myung Tae-kyun, another problem will not be solved yet. What do you think?
◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: So, not only is the search and seizure related to the former lawmaker Kim Young-sun and the person who is in custody, but according to media reports, Pohang's mayor is also Pohang's mayor. So, it is reported that he received data on that, and then asked for some data on some parts such as the Governor of Gyeongnam and Gangwon-do.
◆ Shin Yul: But they say they destroy the materials when they're old, but I don't know if they had it.
◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: So it's two years ago, so I don't know what the rules and principles are, but there are some, so they must have taken it. I think it's like taking communication records and transcripts during the search and seizure process. I think they're looking for the messages that were left on our computer. So I don't really know how it's going to go.
◆ Shin Yul: And it seems that President Yoon Suk Yeol and Mrs. Kim Gun-hee changed their cell phones. Finally, in the case of the Democratic Party of Korea, they are considering ways to claim the preservation of evidence, saying that the replacement of mobile phones is an attempt to destroy evidence.
◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: It's a political offensive. But in the meantime, why we keep texting with all kinds of people while just using the cell phone that the president used in the past is a very security problem. You shouldn't do that because as you know, your phone can be tracked. And when I saw the event in the past, they wouldn't allow everyone to bring their cell phones into the presidential event. Because if the cell phone is tracked by radar, it's an extreme word, but it can shoot a missile. They said this. I don't know if it's intimidating or not, but it's actually a problem to keep using the president's own cell phone and keep communicating with the secret weapon or unblocked. So does the lady. So I kept asking the security office not to do that, but didn't the president meet with reporters while talking about the statement and say this is wrong? So, it's natural to discard it, but even that, it's too much to preserve evidence, and I think it's too much to conclude that the president and his wife are criminals.
◆ Shin Yul: The Democrats seem to be impeaching prosecutors, right?
◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: I heard that the prosecutor will be impeached against three people, including Lee Chang-soo, the chief of the Central District Prosecutors' Office, and I heard that the Democratic Party of Korea is not just impeaching the prosecutor. This is the 12th impeachment of prosecutors in this administration. Since liberation, no single party has ever committed so much impeachment in this way. Are you saying that only the prosecutor is impeaching? You impeached the minister in the past. After liberation, the minister was impeached for the first time, and then the chairman of the Korea Communications Standards Commission is also impeached.
◆ Sin-ryul: Right now, the impeachment motion has been introduced, so it's been handed over.
◇ [Kim Jong-hyuk] That's right. And he's threatening to impeach the judge. But don't you say you're not just going to claim impeachment, but you're also going to get rid of politicians' false information under the Public Official Election Act?
◆ Shin Yul: This time, the amendment to the election law has been proposed.
◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: At the same time, he is saying that he will increase the restriction on the right to run for election to 10 million won, not a fine of 1 million won. You know, the prosecutor prosecutes the suspect. You know, the song you sing. He won't let me summon him. Instead, it allows the suspect to veto the prosecutor. If you listen to all of this... So the Democrats' bill is going to make that corrupt, lying politicians and criminals paradise if it goes its way? What on earth is the point of changing all those bills so far? Isn't it for one person representing Lee Jae-myung? Isn't it for Lee Jae-myung? If I change the bill like this for one representative, Lee Jae-myung, I think that the Republic of Korea will not be a democratic country but go back to the dynasty era.
◆ Shin-yul: But some people said Lee Jae-myung's charges of perjury were found guilty, so when that happened, there was a plan to secure the leadership of the political situation using that as an opportunity. Do you agree?
◇ [Kim Jong-hyuk] There's that aspect. Because in the first violation of the election law, he was sentenced to heavy punishment. Aren't you sentenced to one year in prison and two years of probation? He was sentenced to a very heavy sentence, but in fact, the attack on CEO Han Dong-hoon became more heated after that. It's the 15th. So, it's common to say that the perjury teacher will come out stronger, so it doesn't matter if Han Dong-hoon is not here. The argument was raised that he was saying something like that, and that he was attacking CEO Han Dong-hoon like that. However, it was the second time in the second trial that he was unexpectedly found not guilty of perjury. It's true that we were a little shocked. There's also a comment that says, "Is that why you're slowing down?" But I don't think that's the case, but I hope it's not.
◆ Shin Yul: Anyway, I think there are a lot of people in the political world these days who think that the first trial is the final trial. So I think it's a little bit too early for us to judge everything too quickly. Let's stop here today. Thank you.
◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: Thank you.
◆ Shin Yul: The Greatest Dignity Until now, I was the Supreme Council member Kim Jong Hyuk.
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