[Correcting the situation] Minjoo's budget bill will be handled alone. - The Board of Audit and Inspection is seeking to impeach...Yeo, "Lost reason, runaway".

■ Host: Kim Sun-young Anchor
■ Starring: Seo Yong-ju, head of the Political and Social Research Institute, Yoon Hee-seok, senior spokesman for the People's Power

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[Anchor]
Yoon Hee-seok, a spokesman for the People's Power, and Seo Yong-ju, director of the Political and Social Research Institute, came out. National Assembly Speaker Woo Won-sik met with the floor leaders of the ruling and opposition parties today and paid a lot of attention to what would come out, but he said he would not post it at today's plenary session.

[Applicant owner]
National Assembly Speaker Woo Won-sik seems to have made a big decision. The ruling and opposition parties were almost in a state of catastrophe over the budget. If you don't apologize, I won't do anything. If Democrats don't want to do anything, don't do it. We'll take care of it. In this situation, the chairman came forward and called the floor leaders of the ruling and opposition parties to extinguish the situation, but it is not good for the government budget itself to melt into a political part and be disrupted like this.

It's right that the budget should go according to the budget. In addition, as the ruling party says, if the opposition party talks about the reduction, some coordination should be made, but now that politics is missing, they are emotionally doing it with each other. So even though today is the legal deadline, isn't there a week left for 10 days?

So, for a week, I would like to ask the ruling and opposition parties to abandon their political feelings and reduce the budget they really need and don't need from the people's livelihood.

[Anchor]
Chairman Woo Won-sik is from the Democratic Party. How can this be done within the Democratic Party of Korea, will there be voices like this, what do you think?

[Applicant owner]
I'm not a stranger to Chairman Woo Won-sik, and I know him well, but he has a very strong personality, and I'm worried that he might be criticized by the strong supporters.

[Anchor]
Was the Democratic Party thinking it would be a table?

[Applicant owner]
But I think the Democratic Party also basically threw it for negotiation rather than pushing it to propose this. That's what the budget is like. So, the government's budget is about 9,000 projects, and now about 1,000 have been raised according to the government's plan. They bicker within 1,000, but they've reached this point with 4 trillion won in tax cuts.

Therefore, Chairman Woo Won-sik mediated well and came up with a good plan. In the end, it was up to the ruling and opposition parties.

[Anchor]
Chairman Woo Won-sik may have asked for it from the Democratic Party, but he said that he cannot vote today. Anyway, the Democratic Party of Korea is now in the position that if we want to increase the amount if we haven't reduced it, we can bring it without negotiation.

[Yoon Heesuk]
As you said, it is difficult to enter the agreement process with such a simple exchange of opinions because there are a lot of emotional goals. The Korean people elected the president for a five-year term through the presidential election in March 2022. However, the Democratic Party of Korea is creating a situation in which the government is not allowed to work in a five-year term by using a majority of seats as weapons.

You're impeaching public officials in important positions, and you can't do anything while you're in the Constitutional Court after being impeached, right? Now, it is holding back the state administration by using budget cuts as a weapon by going into the budget. In this regard, I think the first step in our political position is to strongly declare that no matter how minority the party is, the ruling party cannot just be dragged into the opposition party.

[Anchor]
Chairman Woo Won-sik asked me to discuss it by December 10th, but I don't know if it will work out. The power of the people is insisting that the proposal be withdrawn first. Let's listen to floor leader Choo Kyung-ho and the Democratic Party of Korea together.

[Choo Kyung-ho / People's Power Floor Leader: Let me make it clear that if the Democratic Party's snatching budget tyranny causes problems in people's livelihoods, security, diplomacy, and disaster response, it is entirely up to Chairman Lee Jae-myung and the Democratic Party. In particular, the Democratic Party leader's double play, which pretends to negotiate including an increase in the budget on the outside, plans a cut-off budget, passes it, and shamelessly says that he can negotiate if the government comes up with an amendment, is a mockery of the government's ruling party and knows the people as fools. Let me make it clear that we will not engage in any further negotiations on the budget unless an apology from the big opposition, the Democratic Party, and the withdrawal of the reduced budget are preceded. ]

[Huh Young / Democratic Party of Korea lawmaker and secretary of the Special Committee on Budget and Accounts (MBC 'Kim Jong-bae's Attention'): I thought that I don't know how to politicize. When the opposition party voted on the reduction plan and the opposition party leader also suggested that the government should come up with an amendment and negotiate with the truth, didn't it propose like this? Then, even if such a proposal is unsatisfactory to each other, I think we can proceed with the table open. However, kicking the table itself will eventually affect the public's burden and the national economy. That's how I'm judging it. ]

[Anchor]
Apologize and withdraw first. As the power of the people came out like this, the Democratic Party of Korea is coming out as you just heard. I don't know politics. It's a reaction like this, "Why are you kicking the table like this?"

[Applicant owner]
You may remember that the president said he was a political president when he was almost two and a half years old. I wonder if you haven't done it because you don't know politics. But now I've talked about it, but I don't think you know politics. So, the budget can be fought between the ruling and opposition parties, of course. There's something we want to eat and something we want to peel.

But you have to show it well, but now the president and the ruling party underneath are not engaged in politics and are only fighting emotions. So I can't go forward with anything. For example, the Democratic Party of Korea is somewhat unreasonable now, but it has cut all of its special prosecution expenses. Of course, it's too much to cut the whole thing. Nevertheless, this is too much for the ruling party.

Then I have to go through negotiations like this, about half, 30%, but since I cut the whole amount, I'm doing a retaliatory budget, and if you point your finger like this, I'm going. And even in the case of special prosecution expenses, what's wrong with not processing receipts while using national taxes? We should. At least, even if it's a secret, we showed it to the National Assembly and spent the national money like this.

No matter how much you buy beef or bread, it's natural that you have to prove it and use it next. You're not spending Democratic Party money. So, in this regard, it has been offended by a very small part, so this has not happened in the constitutional history of the Democratic Party of Korea's various budget cuts. Democrats do as you please. Take it back, apologize. You can't come forward like this. Of course, I can't deny that the Democratic Party didn't have anything emotional about this either.

For example, the prosecution, the police, and the presidential office's own reserves. The same goes for the National Intelligence Service. So, you can cut things that have not been proven to a certain level, but you can cut everything because it hurts your feelings.

[Anchor]
Is that a little intentional?

[Applicant owner]
I don't think I can deny that I don't have any intentions. Because I think I need to change my habit with a budget, but I can't deny that I didn't have any feelings in that I didn't have any when I had to open up a space where the institution could operate, so that I could breathe, but shouldn't the ruling and opposition parties meet and calm down their feelings? I want to say that.

[Anchor]
Shouldn't we create a space for negotiations? This is the Democratic Party's position.

[Yoon Heesuk]
If what Deputy Spokesperson Seo Yong-joo said is true, the Democratic Party is a really immature opposition party. It's a story that completely forgets the weight of state administration. I think it's a big mistake to think that it's the level of habit-breaking to have a parliamentary paralysis in this way, and I don't think it's qualified as an authoritarian party. The Democratic Party has nothing to say because when the announcement was made at the end of the Moon Jae In administration in 2022, it boasted that the presidential office's special activity fee was 9.6 billion won.

However, I paid 8.2 billion won this time, but I will cut it entirely. Then, during the Moon Jae In administration, special activity expenses were needed by the president's office, and now the president's office is not needed, but the logic is not presented. And they don't touch the special activity costs of the National Assembly at all, and they don't pretend to cut the special activity costs of the court at all.

Because these are partisan things, we point out in that area, we don't negotiate, we don't know how to politics. I don't know how long lawmaker Heo Young is in the National Assembly, but the floor negotiators in our party have been in politics for a long time.

[Anchor]
The Democratic Party of Korea says, "Why don't we present specific details about special activity costs?"

[Yoon Heesuk]
You don't have to disclose the details of the special activity expenses. According to the basis for the existence of special activity expenses, it is recognized for information activities and areas where it is difficult to achieve the original purpose by revealing the details like this, so there are special activity expenses. In the past, did the Democratic government disclose all of it? Just use the weapon of the opposition to disclose everything about such a specialty. I don't know what we did back then, but reveal it now. It's an egregious story.

[Applicant owner]
However, the disclosure of special activity expenses is not claimed by the Democratic Party, but by the court. Civic groups should disclose special activity costs through information disclosure, and the prosecution can't do this. I couldn't do it for this reason. There are reasons such as the limitations of this investigation. Nevertheless, the court must do it through the right to know because it is a tax. Nevertheless, I don't do it.

Is the prosecution above the law? So the National Assembly told me to pay it, but I'm also going to reduce it if I don't pay it, so I sneak a month's worth of it. Then, in order to correct this habit, the Constitution guaranteed the right to deliberate on the budget to the National Assembly. What can tax thieves fix if they break the law while serving as public servants and reign over it? Then don't spend the budget.

You don't deserve it. In the end, this authority is the authority of the legislature given by the people, so it has reached this point, but it appears on the data screen now, but the reserve funds and the special activities of the presidential office are all black. It's a national tax. You told the people to tighten their belts, but are you angry because you can't buy beef and you can't spend money at will?

If you think about it, take the lead and tighten your belt. Isn't this kind of demand less than 50 billion won? I'd like to say that.

[Anchor]
Of course, it's not just about buying beef, but anyway.

[Seoyongju]
When the civic group, which requested the release of the data at the time, asked why they were spending so much money, some examples came out, such money was spent at Korean beef restaurants. I'm telling you an example like this.

[Anchor]
People's Power Han Dong-hoon made this criticism to the Democratic Party this morning regarding the special cost of activities. Let's hear what you're talking about.

[Han Dong-hoon / Representative of People's Power: The general review of the budget bill passed by the Democratic Party alone for the first time in history is that it is intended to paralyze state affairs, but when you look at the details, it does not add up. Members of the National Assembly and the National Assembly will also be allocated special activity expenses. I think it's a necessary budget, too. In addition, the police are also allocated special activity expenses to protect the people at night and to protect the people from crime. If you really don't have money in the country and you choose one of these two, which would you choose? Is it a special expense for the National Assembly? Or is it a special fee for policing the police? I think most people will choose special expenses for policing the police. However, the Democratic Party of Korea's choice is the opposite. The special activity cost of the National Assembly was kept intact, and the special activity cost for the police's security maintenance, which allows the people to travel comfortably at night, was made zero. The Democratic Party of Korea's perspective is not just too far from the people, but it is nothing more than a hostage taking people as hostages. ]

[Anchor]
I think I should ask Director Seo Yong-joo about this. Then why doesn't the National Assembly cut special activity costs?

[Approved note]
It must have been cut drastically and reached 980,000 in 2018. In 2018, so, when there is a controversy over special activity expenses, let's reduce the special activity expenses for the National Intelligence Service, the police, the prosecution, and the National Assembly. So I drastically reduced it at that time, and as far as I know, it was about 900 million or 1 billion won. So, CEO Han Dong-hoon said about the special expenses of the prosecution and the special expenses of the police earlier, but I can criticize the total reduction, but isn't it a little wrong to compare this with the special expenses of the National Assembly?

The National Assembly's special activity fee is a form of special activity fee that goes down at each standing committee and then to the leadership of each party, which is being proved by the National Assembly Secretariat. I don't do this like the prosecution. So, if you criticize the prosecution and the police as emotional, I will accept it, but cutting this is like destroying security and paralyzing the function of the assessment? This is a level that misleads the people, that's what I say.

[Anchor]
Representative Heo Young of the Democratic Party explained in a media interview that the special cost of the National Assembly has already been drastically reduced due to the Hong Joon Pyo market.

[Yoon Heesuk]
It has to be balanced. It's not true that you take what you cut in the past and present it as a logic about not cutting it now. Director Seo Young-joo is also talking about 2018, and she wanted to hear about 2024. Why didn't you peel it? You're not answering.

Tax thieves, why are you eating beef when you have to tighten your belt? I wasn't going to tell you this, but what did CEO Lee Jae-myung do with the national tax? When we hear about beef, it reminds me of that. I proved that. Even though the prosecution revealed it through an investigation because there was no evidence, it is still consistent with ignorance. What should I do about that? Perhaps Democrats should worry about that first.

[Anchor]
Anyway, according to the public sentiment, they say they cut everything, but they say it's difficult, but if lawmakers don't cut only their special activities, do they take care of their own rice bowls? I think there must be this perspective.

[Applicant owner]
There may be such a view, but in 2018, that is, 90% of it was cut. Originally, it was about 6 billion won, but it was almost 98 million won, so as I said earlier, I left the budget just enough to breathe. You can just ask the prosecution, the police, and the presidential office to breathe.

What are you going to do about the 90% reduction with the special expenses of the last National Assembly just because you cut it completely? Then if you get rid of everything, you won't say anything anymore even if the prosecution or the police cut all these budgets? The comparison itself is wrong.

I have to come in with minimal rationality to negotiate. This is an emotional budgeting because it will paralyze the function of the prosecution and the reduction of the police. Do you think this will be helpful to the people, you have to come in like this. It seems that the logic of such a big shock or criticism is missing from what comes in with the special expenses of the National Assembly.

[Yoon Heesuk]
After the Democratic Party of Korea cut the whole amount, it means that we should say, "Please save this because it is not logical to cut the whole amount." Why did they cut the whole thing first? It's our request to reveal the logic. So, the Democratic Party of Korea keeps saying that the National Assembly has made huge cuts in the past, so we've swung a knife at the rest of the institutions except for the National Assembly. You admit it wrong first, and we're a minority party.

We have no choice but to go as the Democratic Party does. Please point out what we're talking about right now.

[Applicant owner]
I've already cut 90% of the special expenses of the National Assembly. I cut it by agreement between the ruling and opposition parties. So, the prosecution, the police, and the presidential office's budget itself is now tightening, lack of tax revenue, and belt tightening, so the ruling party can't prove it and tell the ruling party that it will cut it by agreeing with the ruling and opposition parties.

So I'm talking about a full cut, but how do you give me a budget next year that doesn't provide proof of receipts? What kind of company can give you that?

[Yoon Heesuk]
It doesn't make sense if we keep saying that we don't negotiate about the total reduction of the National Assembly budget when we talk about the fact that we haven't cut it yet.

[Yoon Heesuk]
Why didn't you cut it, about the special expenses of the National Assembly? That's what I'm talking about. I'm talking about why I'm not cutting it in the year of 24. I told you

[Seoyongju] Since we cut it by 90% in 2018.

[Yoon Heesuk]
I'm not talking about 2018, I'm talking about why it didn't become 0 won in 24.

[Seoyongju]
You don't have to pay KRW ∀}.

[Yoon Heesuk]
Why is the other side 0 won?

[Applicant owner]
Where is 0 won?

[Yoon Heesuk]
Prosecutors, why is it 0 won?

[Applicant owner]
You don't give proof of receipt. present to the court Why would you give me money if I hid something and didn't make it transparent? It's not the Democratic Party's money, it's the people's money.

[Anchor]
I think you've fully understood what you two said so far. The problem is that even if the floor leaders of the ruling and opposition parties meet, they will be talking about this a lot, but there are days to come.Do you mean that in the power of the people, you have to withdraw all of this proposal to negotiate?

[Yoon Heesuk]
We have no choice but to show such a strong position. Because they decided not to take care of it today, so they bought time for now. I think the Democratic Party has a plan, so it's done by stacking up things one by one. Why doesn't the Democratic Party ask for anything regarding the budget? If the National Assembly has the power to increase it, there are still things that could have been made clear.

CEO Lee Jae-myung talked about it. For example, what CEO Lee Jae-myung has been pursuing since his presidential election pledge in local currency, and that's what he wants. They will also demand all the budgets that the Democratic Party members of each district must do. However, to talk about the demand with a stronger negotiating power, we have now taken such a tough step.

So, I keep saying that it's not good to take the weight of state affairs too lightly and have this kind of political struggle.

[Anchor]
If the first condition of the negotiation is withdrawal, is there no possibility that the Democratic Party will accept it?

[Applicant owner]
That's right. It's a river. If withdrawal means no negotiation, then how will it be negotiated if you don't consider that side's position at all? So, we have this whole plan, so please bring us a request that suits us, and it's right to do this. Apologize and withdraw? So what did the Democrats do wrong? It's a reduction budget because it's worth it. I was so nervous even if I was scared.

Of the 670 trillion budget, 4.1 trillion won, or less than 1%. Even the presidential office, prosecution, and police, which are called specific business expenses, are fine at all. By the way, all the government budgets have stopped with this? Of the 9,000 projects, 8,000 are already in line with the government's plan. So, I hope you don't threaten the public about this part.

[Anchor]
If you run a parallel line until December 10th. The inside doesn't change. So do you think Chairman Woo Won-sik will propose this plan then?

[Applicant owner]
I think we have no choice but to assume it. Originally, it was customary to go until the end of December, but the fact that it was postponed once due to the political style of Chairman Woo Won-sik came to apologize to the people that the date was delayed today. Therefore, I will withdraw by December 10th no matter what, and I will continue to act as an arbitrator in the negotiations, so I will not pass December.

[Anchor]
What is the position of the people's power once the reduction plan is proposed as it is? Even if it passes, it can't be helped. So Democrats take responsibility, is this the atmosphere?

[Yoon Heesuk]
The responsibility of the ruling party is heavy to say that the Democratic Party should take responsibility. You have to make sure that it doesn't happen. Chairman Woo Won-sik probably won't do that either. The National Assembly speaker's term is two years, and you wouldn't want the budget to pass like that during your term, and eventually it passed the legal deadline anyway. I'm going to turn it over now. In that situation, I expect the chairman to play a role in ensuring that the budget bill is passed by agreement between the ruling and opposition parties.

[Anchor]
We should bring a budget plan that gives hope to the people. I think the ruling and opposition floor leaders should remember that Chairman Woo Won-sik asked for this. Please show us the next keyword. I didn't set the deadline. Let's make it in six months. Kim Min-seok, the supreme council member of the Democratic Party, said this at an outdoor rally over the weekend. Let's hear what they're saying first.

[Kim Min-seok / Supreme Council member of the Democratic Party of Korea (last month 30th): There is nothing to do except kimchi stew, no policy other than tax cuts for the rich, the term of the National Assembly is a year longer than the Yoon Suk Yeol, and the term of the people is forever. Syngman Rhee, Park Chung-hee, Chun Doo-hwan, and Park Geun Hye all couldn't stand it, so how can we stand it? Today is the fifth rally. Let's change the tables before Trump takes office in 50 days. Let's sing to fight the witchcraft regime on Christmas Day, declare the state of affairs even when only 10 people gather at the year-end party, and offer Trump a Nobel Prize for peace. 5, 5, 25, Let's make it in 25 weeks and 6 months! ]

[Anchor]
We heard the voice of Supreme Council member Kim Min-seok at the weekend's outdoor rally. Of course, you can raise your voice and express too much at rallies. The content is not unusual. He says he'll win in six months.

[Yoon Heesuk]
Considering that it is six months, the second trial of the election law violation trial, which is the most worrisome, should be made within three months after November 15th, and the Supreme Court should make a final decision within the next three months, because of this policy, it is six months. I don't know what I'm thinking in it, but it seems that he sees a new world as the judicial risk of representative Lee Jae-myung disappears only when he wins. Supreme Council member Kim Min-seok's consciousness system is so buried in the past that it doesn't touch me.

Let's make it a game. You have to think carefully about what judgment you made in 2002 and have been excluded from politics for 18 years. The people will be puzzled to talk about such a judgment and the Syngman Rhee administration.
And suddenly, let's give President Trump a Nobel Prize. I don't know what you mean. Five and five and twenty-five are six months. It's an English cassette tape commercial in the '80s that says
25 weeks is 6 months.

It shows the level of awareness that remains at that level. I was talking about emergency martial law not long ago, but it's a word that hasn't been there since 80. Supreme Council member Kim Min-seok wants you to study more.

[Anchor]
Anyway, it's the leadership of the Democratic Party, Supreme Council member Kim Min-seok. This is what the Democratic Party's leadership said, but they didn't bring up the two words impeachment, but let's see the outcome. There is an interpretation of whether this is actually a statement suggesting impeachment.

[Applicant owner]
That's right. At the outdoor rally, Supreme Council member Kim Min-seok comes out as the representative speaker and talks. Recently, CEO Lee Jae-myung has not been holding a microphone at an outdoor rally, so I think he's speaking on behalf of him. Overall, I think you had a hard time matching rhymes and things like that. Let's play 5, 5, 25. I think I thought about a lot of things.

I don't think I was just saying it. I always think politics is like that. In making various arguments, you need to first understand what the other person wants to hear and write various messages with at least a certain amount of what the other person wants to hear. From what I can see, the people are currently saying, "Oh, right, the words of Supreme Council member Kim Min-seok." I'll have to see the game in six months.

In terms of whether this is ripe now, such a message may work at some point, but there is a regret in terms of being premature. Take a look already. Since it's been 25 weeks and 6 months, there are criticisms that Lee Jae-myung is conscious of the Public Official Election Act.

[Anchor]
Isn't it that?

[Applicant owner]
I think it's that, too. But you don't need to be misunderstood like this. Isn't it so? Representative Lee Jae-myung's trial should go according to the trial, and Kim Gun-hee's special prosecutor should go according to the special prosecutor's office to say that the country will stand properly, but 5 and 525 were not very good frames.

[Anchor]
The Democratic Party of Korea's last week's rally is also quite different from the Democratic Party's estimate of the number of people estimated by the police, but the fact that it was held last week will continue, right?

[Yoon Heesuk]
We will continue from now on. There's no justification for stopping this. Representative Lee Jae-myung and the Democratic Party of Korea have no choice but to just do it even if they want to stop. If that happens, we have no choice but to keep making hard-line remarks. If that happens, it will be evaluated again by the people because of mistakes or unreasonable logic in the remarks. There is a very high possibility of falling into this vicious cycle. I think it's an outdoor rally that shouldn't have started in the first place.

[Anchor]
You also said that you don't know if you'll do it or not this week, what do you think? Is the rally powering up?

[Applicant owner]
I think I'm keeping it plain. As far as I know, we are not reviewing it to be suspended.
So I think it's every week. If the format of this rally was centered in Seoul, it is now done in the provinces. Busan, Daegu, and Gwangju are done by each base, so those who think the number of people has decreased are correct to think that the number of people in the region has decreased physically because the number of people in the region has not moved to Seoul.

It seems like a number of strategic moves to spread the campaign nationwide, not just in Seoul, but the current government should listen to the voice from this number rather than the number. Why Kim Gun-hee's independent counsel is needed? Perhaps the reason why the country cannot take a step forward is because of First Lady Kim Gun-hee, look back. I hope you can use that as an opportunity.

[Anchor]
Is blue still prohibited?

[Applicant owner]
He came out wearing whatever he wanted. But I don't think they're forced to wear it as a group, so I think I'm doing it as a free dress.

[Anchor]
I told you to prepare a padded coat this week and next week. We'll see if it continues until the middle of winter. Let's move on to the power of the people. Please show us the last keyword. It's a failed project. Shin Ji-ho, the Vice-President of Strategy, said this in a media interview today. So, let's have a truce with floor leader Choo Kyung-ho regarding the controversy over the bulletin board of party members. I told you like this.

The interpretation is that this declaration of a ceasefire means that this project has failed. How did you personally see it?

[Shin Ji-ho / Vice-President of the People's Power Strategy (CBS 'Kim Hyun-jung's News Show'): Let's have a cool time, we used this expression. In fact, from the perspective of the party that caused the controversy over the bulletin board, it becomes a fact that floor leader Choo Kyung-ho's proposal for a cooling system was a failed project. It was a failed project. I think Jang Ye-chan is... It is recognized that Han Dong-hoon, chairman of the emergency committee, led the cancellation of the nomination. That's how I interpret it as showing some kind of political behavior like killing Han Dong-hoon. I'm interpreting it, but one day Jang Ye-chan will find out about this, and it wasn't Han Dong-hoon, then chairman of the emergency committee, who led the cancellation of Jang Ye-chan's nomination. (Who is it? ) I'll stop there for that. Is it a twist? No, I know. (Are you a close friend? If Jang Ye-chan finds out about the fact that he was in the process of nominating himself later, he will probably have a mental breakdown. (If you say it's enough to have a mental breakdown, it means that someone who the former Supreme Council member believes led it, so it can only be interpreted like this. I'll stop there. (He nods his head.) I see. )]

[Yoon Heesuk]
Rather than starting because it was a project, there are many aspects that have been increased by people spreading suspicions outside the party.

[Anchor]
Wasn't it Kim Ok Gyun project?

[Yoon Heesuk]
I don't see it that way. It is true that there is a lot of room for such interpretation, but it is difficult to say that at least the party planned and implemented it. Therefore, floor leader Choo Kyung-ho's request for a cooling-off period does not require any more comment on this, at least in the party situation.

Seeing as you said appropriately that it was not helpful to all members of the party, the word "failed project" is not directed at the party, but failed attempts by people outside the party to hurt Chairman Han Dong-hoon. I would like to interpret it like this.

[Anchor]
Anyway, I declared a ceasefire, but it sounds like it's actually an end to the war, what do you think personally?

[Applicant note]
is out of service. The fight between Chin-yoon and Chin-han seems like a game that ends only when one of them dies completely. I won't say Yongsan with Han Dong-hoon, but since this happened not because they were close to each other but because it happened amid tension, chances are high that it will cease for a while and attack again after Kim Gun-hee's independent counsel ends on February 10. But I don't know.

I don't want to talk much about it because it's on the people's side, but I don't think Vice-Chancellor Shin Ji-ho's various remarks are helping representative Han Dong-hoon. Last time, I tried to attract my aunt's remarks, and it was defined as a project that only made things bigger. It's a failed Kim Ok-gyun project in parentheses.

So, as the Kim Ok-gyun project is in full swing, CEO Han Dong-hoon will be driven out, and such a project will be operated. The rules are scary in politics. But if the strategy vice-president comes out and says this was a project, it's like Chin-yoon acknowledging the party's bulletin board project to bring down representative Han Dong-hoon.

Then, I think Yongsan is behind it, so I think it was not such an appropriate remark as the strategy vice-president.

[Anchor]
Do you personally not look at it like that?

[Applicant owner]
To be honest, I will never give up Yongsan to bring down CEO Han Dong-hoon. Because he is the only representative who does not listen and does not know what will happen to Kim Gun-hee, the special prosecutor.

[Anchor]
Spokesperson Yoon Hee-seok said a while ago that the controversy over the party's bulletin board was raised outside the party, but you can mention your real name. Former Supreme Council member Jang Ye-chan was the most active to raise the issue, and Vice-President Shin Ji-ho also talked about it in a media interview today. Let's hear about today's media interview.

[Shin Ji-ho / Vice-President of the People's Power Strategy (CBS 'Kim Hyun-jung's News Show'): Let's have a cool time, we used this expression. In fact, from the perspective of the party that caused the controversy over the bulletin board, it becomes a fact that floor leader Choo Kyung-ho's proposal for a cooling system was a failed project. It was a failed project. I think Jang Ye-chan is... It is recognized that Han Dong-hoon, chairman of the emergency committee, led the cancellation of the nomination. That's how I interpret it as showing some kind of political behavior like killing Han Dong-hoon. I'm interpreting it, but one day Jang Ye-chan will find out about this, and it wasn't Han Dong-hoon, then chairman of the emergency committee, who led the cancellation of Jang Ye-chan's nomination. (Who is it? ) I'll stop there for that. Is it a twist? No, I know. (Are you a close friend? If Jang Ye-chan finds out about the fact that he was in the process of nominating himself later, he will probably have a mental breakdown. (If you say it's enough to have a mental breakdown, it means that someone who the former Supreme Council member believes led it, so it can only be interpreted like this. I'll stop there. (He nods his head.) I see. )]

[Anchor]
Han Dong-hoon is not the chairman of the emergency committee at the time. Former Supreme Council member Jang Ye-chan said that if he knew this, he would go mental. Who is it?

[Yoon Heesuk]
At that time, the process will have to be revived again, but Jang Ye-chan was a candidate at the time, so you won't know what happened in the Seoul leadership. I'm sure you'll believe it like that. CEO Han Dong-hoon made a decision and canceled his nomination, so he seems to think that the badge he had got is gone. At that time, CEO Han Dong-hoon sought opinions from many people and agreed to cancel the nomination after much consideration.

I'm telling you this because I know the process well. It is a mistake to think that Han Dong-hoon's dogmatic decision blew up his nomination. Then, there is a part that is in line with what Shin Ji-ho, the Minister of Strategic Planning, said that he has heard opinions from many people. In this situation, many people who believed that Jang Ye-chan would never have expressed an opinion that he should cancel his nomination, and in that situation at the time, many people would have said that the cancellation of Jang Ye-chan's nomination was correct. That's the bottom line.

[Anchor]
Although you don't know your real name.

[Yoon Heesuk]
There's no reason for me to know. Therefore, I would like to say that Jang Ye-chan will continue to make incorrect judgments unless the premise that the party leader or the emergency committee chairman can handle this decision-making process alone is changed.

[Anchor]
I don't think spokesman Yoon Hee-seok knows, but I won't ask you any more questions today. Anyway, Director Seo Yong-joo, was there such a rumor in the political circle? It's not Han Dong-hoon's decision, it's someone else's. There was a rumor like this?

[Applicant owner]
There was a rumor like that. At that time, there was a flurry of rumors, and Jang Ye-chan, the former best, is a special relationship with President Yoon Suk Yeol and is favored by various Yongsans. However, from the perspective of Han Dong-hoon, the chairman of the emergency committee at the time, it is highly likely that it was burdensome for him to decide on his own, considering the situation. So I'm sure you've asked a lot of people. Would you have asked her? Would you have asked Yongsan?

I think it's more likely that Yongsan's opinions have not been decided between the two. Apart from everything, floor leader Choo Kyung-ho wants to have a cooler, but Vice-President Shin Ji-ho doesn't seem to like it. It's stirring up a lot of excitement again.

[Anchor]
Former Supreme Council member Jang Ye-chan will appear on our program tomorrow. We'll listen to what you think. Yoon Hee-seok, a spokesman for the People's Power, and Seo Yong-ju, director of the Political and Social Research Institute. Thank you.