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■ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (17:00-19:00)
■ Air date: October 8, 2024 (Tuesday)
■ Proceedings: Shin Yul, Professor of Political Science and Diplomacy at Myongji University
■ Dialogue: ☎ Cho Jeon-hyuk, candidate for superintendent of Seoul Metropolitan Office of Education
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- Candidate Jeong Geun-sik boycotts TV debates, feels like watching elementary school students swarm
- Seoul education in the past 10 years 'the era of darkness'...Comprehensively shipped from all parts
- no more important economic variables than education.I have a sense of duty to fix the broken education
-New parent council directly under the superintendent of education when elected..Establishing an affiliated biased education reporting center
- Isn't it a conflicting concept of school authority-student human rights?List only the rights of students in the current Student Human Rights Ordinance
- Superintendent Cho Hee-yeon would not have implemented an education policy with bad intentions.an unreasonable third-line point of anger
◇ Shin Yul, professor of political and foreign affairs at Myongji University (hereinafter Shin Yul): In today's head-to-head interview, let's meet Cho Jeon-hyuk, the conservative candidate among the candidates for the Seoul Metropolitan Office of Education. Hello. Hello, candidate Cho Jeon Hyuk.
★ Cho Jeon-hyuk, superintendent of education candidate of Seoul Metropolitan Government (hereinafter Cho Jeon-hyuk): Yes, hello.
◇ Shin Yul: You must be busy these days. Right, but there was a TV talk last time, right? However, Chung Geun-sik, a candidate of the progressive camp, boycotted the TV debate. What do you think?
★ Cho Jeon-hyuk: So, we actually held the event in accordance with the NEC's regulations. Also, Yun Ho-sang and Choi Bo-sun, didn't they attend the TV debate?
◇ Shin Yul: Yes.
★ Cho Jeon-hyuk: So anyway, I say that I'm justified in boycotting the debate, but I think this sense of education is a place where we have to teach all rules. So, I'm saying that the question of whether I'm eligible for the superintendent of education is as if I'm looking at an elementary school student swarm.
◇ Shin Yul: Yes. Now, however, the absurdity of caricature and neutralization of the superintendent election, which is already being criticized for the election, should be stopped immediately. What do you think of this position when you're talking about it like this?
★ Cho Jeon-hyuk: So I told candidate Chung that KBS election broadcast debates are now regulated like that, so let's have another debate if it's so dark and the election is neutralized. I'm going to go on a so-called left-wing panel or YouTube broadcast. Let's have a discussion. I was in that position. And there's not only KBS, there's MBC and SBS, right?
◇ Shin Yul: Yes.
★ Cho Jeon-hyuk: So we can go out and have a discussion, but if you say you have all the opportunities for such a discussion now, I'll say that I'm always welcome.
◇ Shin Yul: Candidate Cho Jeon-hyuk just said that it's a regulation, what regulation are you talking about on KBS?
★ Cho Jeon-hyuk: There are separate election broadcasting regulations. So people who won more than 10% of the votes in the previous election, and in that election, the general daily newspaper, the three terrestrial broadcasters, and the general news channel are now limited to 5% of the votes. That's why I'm talking about the rules. Actually, I didn't even know there was such a regulation.
◇ Shin Yul: There is that regulation. I've been the MC of the debate committee on election broadcasts a lot, so I understand that.
★ Cho Jeon-hyuk: Even to me, it seems a little unreasonable.But anyway, isn't it right that the regulation has become like that until it is revised later?
◇ Shin Yul: Okay. Our candidate Cho Jeon-hyuk says, "It was the dark age of Seoul education for the past 10 years." Is there a reason why you think it was the dark age?
★ Cho Jeon-hyuk: So I think the most important point of view of education is actually the part of education. There's a personality part, too. And wouldn't there be this aspect of teaching authority? But all of these things have been shipped. So now, my academic background has declined according to my academic background. And it's because it's safe to say that the teaching authority is going to fall to the teaching authority and character education is going to fall and children are going to be safe. In fact, the suicide rate of children has almost doubled. So if we take these things and make a comprehensive judgment, I think that Seoul education is completely in an era of darkness.
◇ Shin Yul: Yes. So, I'm trying to run for the superintendent of education again. Can I understand this?
★ Cho Jeon-hyuk: There's also that aspect. I am a lifelong economist majoring in economics. I don't think there are any more important economic variables than education. If you look at countries that continue to grow high, a solid education system is supporting that growth. And if you look at the societies that we usually think are just, this is social mobility based on solid public education. Isn't a society where social class mobility is now taking place, that is, a society that believes that even if the parents' generation lives up there and down the so-called low-income class, they can receive public education benefits and their children's generation can live above the middle class very stable? So, in all such societies, we have to have a direction, but in that respect, I think education is a very important social variable. And education is a history of an individual, of a family, of a company, of all human-made institutions and organizations, and that includes the state, but I think it's even a historical variable that defines that history. That's why education is important and I'll make sure to fix this broken education. I have this sense of duty.
◇ Shin Yul: Okay. The first thing to pursue now is the revival of elementary school diagnostic evaluation, right?
★ Cho Jeon-hyuk: Yes. It's a story of diagnostic evaluation.
◇ Shin Yul: Please explain why you put this as your priority.
★ Cho Jeon-hyuk: So, in the era of the so-called left-wing superintendent of education, this has sinned the evaluation of test tests and such. I think evaluating it is like having children and now thinking like this is my abuse. As a result, I basically evaluated it and didn't do it at all. So, I don't understand what our children's strengths and weaknesses are. So I also need a diagnostic evaluation on my educational background and relationship. These days, when you look at our children, don't you think about mental health issues are very important? So I think all of these areas should be diagnosed. The part related to school management should also be diagnosed. So anyway, it is very urgent for me to diagnose the facts of each student's comprehensive school management. Among them, can you believe that Seoul has actually become the city with the lowest basic education in the country because of the lack of education? So, regarding this academic background, I say that more diagnostic evaluation is urgently needed.
◇ Shin Yul: You just used the word mental health, what does that mean?
★ Cho Jeon-hyuk: So recently, the biggest problem is that the children are actually very sad, but the suicide rate is rising. It's doubled compared to almost 10 years ago. However, the superintendent of education is also responsible for diagnosing this as a whole and taking care of all these children's minds. Of course, it's at home, but that's what I'm thinking.
◇ Sin-ryul: And I will push out left-leaning education and focus on education for the future of our precious children. You said this, right? What are you going to do specifically?
★ Cho Jeon-hyuk: So this is actually a closed space called a classroom, and no parents know what the teacher is talking to our children. When I was a member of the National Assembly, I don't know if you remember, but I once disclosed the list of teachers' union members.
◇ Shin Yul: Yes, he was with Chung Doo-un.
★ Cho Jeon-hyuk: Anyway, I was the first one to do it. Then, there was a situation where the other nine lawmakers asked me to get off the website and posted it on the relay on the website. The reason why the list was disclosed at that time was that the Korean Teachers and Education Workers Union actually gave biased classes to the children systematically and collectively. I had an ideology class, but at that time, I saw school regulations and school regulations, so it was very difficult to discipline these teachers. So, the list was released, so we need to get them under social surveillance. That's why I revealed it. Likewise, when I become a superintendent, I establish a parent council directly under the superintendent. I will create a biased education reporting center under the parent council.
◇ Synthesis: Yes
★ Cho Jeon-hyuk: I'm thinking about this when it comes to education. The educational content believes that the educational content that crosses the school wall should be socially agreed upon, and theoretically and scientifically verified, and only verified educational content should cross the school wall. The reason why I have an agreement, emphasize it three times, and then emphasize it three times is that our children are so precious. I'm telling you that because children's chests are blank, I don't think contaminants should get on them when boiling them. So I think the superintendent of education is also responsible for protecting these parts to be observed.
◇ Shin Yul: Okay. And the hottest topic these days is the teaching authority issue, right? Teachers have actually been protesting on the street until recently, but in fact, some people talk about teaching rights and the other side says that student human rights are important. Is there a compatible way?
★ Cho Jeon-hyuk: No, but it's true that we respect each other. So the two are not conflicting concepts over there, such as teaching rights and student human rights. It's a concept that shouldn't be conflicting. In order for student human rights and human rights to be properly protected, teaching rights must be firmly established. These days, it's hard to imagine a teacher abusing or abusing children like in the past. Of course, if that happens, we have to prevent it in advance, but I would like to tell you that it has completely changed from the past. Let me tell you a little bit about the relationship between this student human rights ordinance and teaching authority. In fact, Superintendent Kim Sang-gon was the first to introduce this student human rights ordinance in Korea in 2009. But what does Superintendent Kim Sang-gon say at that time make me remember you? There is a student rights ordinance in New York City. There is a Bill of Rights, and he said he made another student human rights treaty using it as a war criminal.
◇ Shin Yul: Yes.
★ Cho Jeon-hyuk: But this was almost a red lie. The Korean Student Human Rights Ordinance lists only the rights of students. In addition, only the rights relief process is done unilaterally. On the other hand, the U.S. Student Rights Ordinance, the Bill of Rights, prefers that children's freedom and rights are just declarative, because they are citizens of the U.S., they enjoy the freedoms and rights that the U.S. has given them. On the other hand, the responsibilities and obligations that follow this are being operated in great detail and detail. For example, there is freedom of assembly and demonstration. I'm doing this on my own, but I list the various rules that must be followed in the assembly demonstration. For example, you shouldn't interfere with other people's traffic. Even when you have a rally demonstration, you have to dress neatly like a student. There's a list of things like this and even a regulation like this. Handouts can be handed out when holding a rally demonstration, but you must obtain prior permission from the principal. I've been doing these things all along. So if you look at the United States, it teaches us that freedom and rights must come with responsibilities and obligations. And when we think about it once, freedom and rights are demanded by ourselves, even if no one talks about it. On the other hand, this responsibility and obligation, while following rules and norms while living in school, will it actually grow into a liberal arts newspaper in a way in society through this process? If you look at it, you'll see which one is more educational. By the way, in our Student Human Rights Ordinance, some clever children abuse or abuse this Student Human Rights Ordinance and even gaslight the teacher. If there's a teacher who's a little upset, you just report that she's abusing you. Mr. Lee is in a lot of trouble. You have to write it all, and the education office is called, and you can't just stand here and there. So I will change the Student Human Rights Ordinance to the Student Rights Duty Ordinance. Then, as much as children's rights are important on their own, they will learn and feel that other people's rights are important and that the teacher's teaching authority is also important.
◇ Shin Yul: Okay. This is a common question, but what do you think about the merits and demerits of former Superintendent Cho Hee-yeon's policy?
★ Cho Jeon-hyuk: As I said earlier, I don't think Superintendent Cho Hee-yeon did the education policy with bad intentions. However, whether Korea is actually Korea or the world, the so-called progressive left-wing policies usually fail a lot, but in the process, all of them turn evil. For example, the Innovation School Policy Student Human Rights Survey. This was an educational experiment that started in good faith but failed completely. If you failed even after 10 years, I think it's time to change it. And especially at the end, the question is, because this person overran the third term, didn't he end up holding all the by-elections now? The cost of this is 5.6 billion. The most angry thing about me is that I'm so angry right now that I'm throwing money into the air to fill my children's heads and money to build up for their stomachs.
◇ Shin Yul: Okay. Finally, simply and simply, tell us why you should become the superintendent of education.
★ Cho Jeon-hyuk: Seoul education, which has collapsed like this for 10 years, must be normalized. However, the task of normalizing this is very difficult. I think only people with a strong will and a breakthrough can change it. I'm that kind of candidate.
◇ Sin Yul: Thank you very much for what you said today. Thank you.
★ Cho Jeon Hyuk: Thank you.
◇ Shin Yul: You've been a candidate for the conservative camp of the Seoul Metropolitan Office of Education. We've met Cho Jeon-hyuk.
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