"The president's office needs to be renovated"...Handonghoon who chose the front breakthrough?

■ Host: Anchor Yoon Jae-hee
■ Appearance: Lawyer Seo Jeong-wook, Vice Chairman of the People's Communication Committee Kang Sung-pil of the Democratic Party of Korea


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[Anchor]
"The presidential office needs to overhaul its personnel to address concerns over First Lady Kim Gun-hee," said representative Han Dong-hoon, who campaigned to support by-elections today. Representative Han Dong-hoon, who is increasing the intensity of his remarks every day, is also divided into political interpretations over the background. Let's summarize the political issues with Seo Jeong-wook, lawyer Kang Sung-pil, vice chairman of the Democratic Party of Korea's National Communication Committee. CEO Han Dong-hoon has been sending intense messages to Mrs. Kim Gun-hee every day. Let's start by listening to the related remarks first.

[Anchor] Following what you heard
today, there was also a talk that the presidential office needs to overhaul its personnel to address concerns about Mrs. Kim. Regarding the issue of Mrs. Kim, some analysts say that Han chose to go head-to-head.
How do you see it?

[Jungwook Seo]
But it's hard for me to agree, Kim Dae-nam, of course, there are things like Kim Gun-hee's line and Ten Sang-shi in the transcript, but as you explained, you are level 3. However, other people keep getting promoted well, but they complained because they were old, but they weren't getting promoted well. More than 400 people in the presidential office I know right now, all of them have the best of best talents. Kim Gun-hee is the one to pick, and where is Kim's line? I am nothing but groundless speculation or speculation. Therefore, I don't understand who and how this is supposed to reform people. That's the opposition's framing attack. I'm looking at it like this:
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[Anchor]
What did you mean by mentioning the need for personnel reform in the presidential office? How are you analyzing it?

[Kang Sungpil]
From our Democratic Party's point of view, the personnel composition of the presidential office is not the best of best. Anyway, haven't there been negative comments related to various presidents and First Lady Kim Gun-hee from the mouth of the third-level administrator, who is a high-ranking official in the presidential office? But I think there should be elections often. Because CEO Han Dong-hoon said something relatively correct whenever the election was coming up. In the past, even before the general election, you tried to be unfavorable to the election, so you made the first remarks about Kim Gun-hee while thinking about the public's perspective. And during the national convention process, negative comments began, and Kim Gun-hee said she should apologize anyway. Also, since it will be disadvantageous in the by-elections, public opinion will deteriorate, so we should refrain from activities related to Kim Gun-hee. Seeing you say this. But after the election, we'll watch. I'll see if you take responsibility for what you said to the end and continue to claim it.

[Anchor]
There is also a strong opposition from the pro-yoon faction within the party. Some even point out that it's a public opinion trial or a self-inflicted statement. There are also many voices concerned about the conservative division. What do you think?

[Jungwook Seo]
Of course, is it a public opinion trial? Regarding this criticism, CEO Han Dong-hoon said, "It's a misunderstanding. The people do not have thoughts contrary to laws, principles, or common sense. I explained it like this. But the conclusion is that CEO Han Dong-hoon is talking about whether this is a prosecution or not. However, when the people say that they are convinced, there is a lot of public opinion that they should be prosecuted just by looking at the polls. But I'm telling you on the show that I've seen the 350-page ruling about three times. How many Koreans are interested in reading or knowing the contents of the judgment accurately?
Just indict Kim Gun-hee if you hate her. But don't indict Kim Gun-hee. This is public opinion, but this is not the rule of law. I don't know if
is a democracy. Democracy and the rule of law work differently. The prosecution should give evidence and what the facts are like. Then what are the laws and principles? Accordingly, as a legal professional, you can conclude according to your conscience. Personally, I don't see anyone who reads this ruling and asks to prosecute it as a legal professional. That's my personal opinion. However, there will be many panels who talk without looking at the ruling. However, I mean, if Han Dong-hoon continued to hold public opinion, it would be an unfortunate remark if it was seen as an indictment. However, since you are not, I think you need to clarify the true meaning of your remarks.

[Anchor]
There is an atmosphere in which Yoon Han-han's conflict continues, and there are articles that representative Han Dong-hoon and President Yoon Suk Yeol will have a private meeting after the by-elections. Should we have a private meeting this time?

[Jungwook Seo]
regardless of the outcome of the election Some used the Kim Ok-gyun project as an excuse to oust Han Dong-hoon if the election lost the power of Busan or the people. This is wrong. The presidential staff should sincerely represent Han Dong-hoon and go as one team. That's why I have to have a private meeting, and the president took it big time. Therefore, regardless of the election results, the president will probably meet with representative Han Dong-hoon candidly, and if the conversation is quite serious, I think it will come out unexpectedly. For example, the issue of First Lady Kim Gun-hee could also be embodied in the second annex or a special inspector. Other than that, you can expect a lot of results such as medical reform. That's what I think.

[Anchor]
Some analysts say that it would be better to meet as soon as possible regarding the period of the solo meeting, but why after the election?

[Kang Sungpil]
Depending on the outcome of the election, a solitary meeting may or may not take place. If Han Dong-hoon, the leader of the party, makes a good defense in the by-elections, it will be a solo meeting, and Han Dong-hoon will take the lead in the solo meeting. Then, in the process of meeting alone, CEO Han Dong-hoon can take the lead in talking about the medical crisis and issues related to Mrs. Kim Gun-hee. This is because the presidential office cannot help but worry about the departure vote on the special prosecution law related to First Lady Kim Gun-hee, which the Democratic Party of Korea will propose in November. However, if the people's power is defeated in Busan Geumjeong or Incheon Ganghwa in the by-elections, there will be no single confrontation. Rather, the presidential office will ask Han Dong-hoon to resign. If you listen to what Han Dong-hoon, chairman of the party, recently, he is saying that the ruling party has not done anything wrong anyway, but that he could lose the election because of suspicions related to the presidential office and First Lady Kim Gun-hee. Therefore, it seems that the results of the by-elections will determine whether the president and representative Han Dong-hoon will hold a solo meeting or not.

[Anchor]
Even if a private meeting is held, there will be a change in the content of what we will talk about in the private meeting depending on the election results.

[Kang Sungpil]
I think the problem related to the medical crisis is the most immediate problem. In fact, I don't think the government will be quite stubborn about this. However, as a result, various suspicions related to Mrs. Kim Gun-hee are now emerging, so CEO Han Dong-hoon has no choice but to discuss this issue anyway. The most frustrating thing about the ruling party right now is that the ruling party's active members are not fact-checking the suspicions related to Kim Gun-hee. The ruling party will be frustrated because it seems that Yongsan does not even know what it is, although they will have to defend themselves and apologize for what they have to do. So I think they'll probably ask in detail about this during the solo meeting process. Perhaps the president and First Lady Kim Gun-hee will have time to check the facts on their own.

[Anchor]
In the midst of this, another poll showed that the president's approval rating has reached a new low every day. Since taking office, the lowest level has continued to be broken, especially in the Seoul area. How are you analyzing the latest trends?

[Jungwook Seo]
Maybe I have a number of reasons, but the first is to prevent the division within the conservative party. Perhaps even within the conservative group, there is a part where close friends and relatives are divided and separated. You have to block this as an integration. And secondly, even if the state administration is really good, it's not well promoted. For example, the Czech Republic's nuclear power plant order and this visit to ASEAN made tremendous achievements. However, this is nothing, but the pollack problem and things like this are hidden, so it's not properly promoted. The president is responsible for this. Propaganda is the most important thing for leftists.

However, the right-wing liberal party is not properly evaluated by the public even for its legitimate achievements. Then the promotional function should be strengthened. Then, third, if you point out one more thing, fake news is serious. That's how the president of Park Geun Hye collapsed. There's a lot of ridiculous fake news. Public opinion is normalized only when a system that properly checks facts like this is used. Public opinion is being influenced by fake news. We need these comprehensive measures, I see it like this.

[Anchor]
We just showed you the results of the poll graphically. By region, it is difficult to say that the approval rate of Boolean-kyung, where the by-elections are held, is also high. Will it affect the outcome of the election?

[Kang Sungpil]
By all means. Currently, the president has a lot of negative evaluations about the evaluation of state affairs. I want to tell you that. There is a program called Black and White Chef that recently hit the world. The value of this program is a fair rule. So, whether you're a black chef or a white chef, you can beat a black chef by blindfolding them and tasting them regardless of their history and specifications. With the value of this fairness, didn't President Yoon Suk Yeol become president? But if you look at the state administration over the past two and a half years, was it fair? The people are asking about this. That's why there's been a saying that the worst numbers in various opinion polls have been the first one recently, but polling is important for the president because it shows the size of the president's power in numbers. So, the poor evaluation of the president by polling means that the president has no driving force to run state affairs even after the election, although the election is also an election in the future. Then the presidential office should change because all of this is quite tiring for the ruling party, the opposition party, and the people.

[Anchor]
The biggest reason for the drop in approval ratings is the Kim Dae-nam and Myung Tae-kyun waves that are hitting the ruling camp, and in fact, there are more than one politician mentioned about Myung Tae-kyun. How influential do you think he is?

[Jungwook Seo]
I don't see him as a person of great importance. After introducing Rep. Kim Young-sun and seeing her once or twice, PNR, a poll company, or politicians met her later, she broke up the relationship with the manager and considered her to be this kind of person. Now, the opposition party is trying to conduct a second Choi Seo-won Duke with this. Looking back, what did Choi Seo-won do behind the scenes during Park Geun Hye's presidency? I can't even look at her like a maid. But at that time, it was as if Choi Seo-won completely controlled the state administration with President Park Geun Hye as a scarecrow. The media should also reflect on itself. So it's the same this time.

Kim Dae-nam complained to reporter Lee Myung-soo as if he was close to him because he failed to nominate him. He raised him like this because he was behind him with nothing. Next, it's the same for Myung Taekyun. Rather, Han Dong-hoon is not the leader, but he is the party leader this time. That's what Representative Kim Yong-min said in Namyangju. So did this person do 100 nominations or 150 nominations? How many nominations did Myung Tae-kyun make in this general election?
I tried to intervene in one Kim Young-sun, but the primary is the principle, and I saw the principle of Kim Gun-hee, and it was only one that ended with a cutoff. It's true that I was just going to nominate one, but it ended in a cutoff. You can't drive it like this as if Myung Tae-kyun has won all the nominations with this.

[Anchor]
In this regard, some say that the presidential office's response is too passive, but some point out that the opposition party has caught some weakness. What do you think?

[Kang Sungpil]
First of all, in the presidential office, Myung Tae-kyun and President Yoon Suk Yeol recently met twice before the general election. And after the general election, you announced that you didn't meet because you were advised to keep your distance. However, according to the testimony of former emergency committee chairman Kim Jong-in and lawmaker Lee Joon-seok, they seem to have met more than once. And I think it was quite close when I saw Myung Tae-kyun talking. An example is that Myung Tae-kyun gave advice while the president was outside and joined the party with the power of the people, right? He said he joined on Saturday because he wanted to join. He also had an impact on the unification of Ahn Cheol Soo candidates, who had a significant impact on the results of the presidential election. And after that, Mayor Oh Se-hoon was elected, and both the governor of Gyeongnam and Gangwon-do were elected. However, in the power of the people, they say that it has failed to pass. Nomination intervention is the same as drunk driving. Even if you didn't get into a car accident by driving under the influence of alcohol, it would be a crime just to get behind the wheel under the influence of alcohol. So, in the view of the Democratic Party, shouldn't we talk about the facts that have been objectively revealed anyway? Therefore, it would be good for the ruling party, the opposition party, and the people to quickly find out whether there is a permanent special prosecution or a special prosecution, including this part.

[Anchor]
The Democratic Party of Korea adopted Myung Tae-kyun and former lawmaker Kim Young-sun as witnesses in the National Assembly, but they were absent. The reason was that the investigation was ongoing. Is this a reason for not attending?

[Jungwook Seo]
That's right. Of course, you don't have to go to the National Assembly if you don't participate. Now, the National Assembly is ruthlessly issuing an order to accompany witnesses. This doesn't make sense. But the problem is that according to Chairman Kang Sung-pil, the president of Korea was also made by Myung Tae-kyun, and both the mayor of Seoul and the party leader. Is this Korea's system like that? His only weapon is one poll PNR. I think there's a little bit of mischief in there. I'm not a pollster, but I think I can play a little bit of a sample. By the way, are polls only there in the presidential election? How often do you do it in dozens of polls? Does the public and the president change just because Myung Tae-kyun made a poll that the president of Yoon Suk Yeol has an advantage? That's a ridiculous story. Therefore, it doesn't make sense that you created the president yourself.

Then Mayor Oh Se-hoon and Seoul Mayor Na Kyung-won also said they did it, but I don't think that makes sense. However, there are facts that have been revealed. CEO Lee Joon-seok and Cheon Ha-ram met at Chilbulsa Temple and planted a red plum flower. Then I asked Kim Young-sun for proportional number 1 and 3, and she refused. This is a fact. Next, Kim Gun-hee and text Telegram said that the primary is the principle. This is it. When I became party leader Lee Joon-seok, Na Kyung-won and that was a relatively small election than the president. In a small election like this, polls can make a big difference. I don't know about that.
But with this, we're going to make a president, we're going to make a mayor of Seoul, we're going to make a complete mockery of our people, our national system. It's ridiculous. The opposition party should not play like this with a single word from Myung Tae-kyun.

[Anchor]
We're talking about the inspection.Ma is still fighting between the ruling and opposition parties over the adoption of witnesses in the parliamentary inspection. We prepared the stories of the ruling and opposition lawmakers by recording related contents. Let's listen to it first.

So far, there have been a total of eight orders issued by the Democratic Party of Korea. Looking at it now, since the introduction of the system, the annual average of 2.6 orders issued by the National Assembly until last year has been issued, but isn't this too much for eight cases? There are also comments like this.

[Kang Sungpil]
It's very sad. And the public may be upset about this, but it's the first time we've met such a government from the perspective of the Democratic Party. That's why, from our point of view, we have to reveal what the people are curious about, and in the process, shouldn't we improve the areas that need to be improved about the state administration anyway? So I didn't let him play. But what would you do if you issued a companion order? It's not coming out. But you should know, don't you reject the order to accompany the National Assembly? Then you can file a complaint with the prosecution, and the prosecution has to prosecute. Then you can be tried and punished. Of course, if you go into hiding completely like the CEO of a company called 21 grams, you won't be able to receive a request for attendance in the first place. This is actually a difficult case. These things look like there needs to be a legal system improvement.

[Anchor]
Let's point out one last issue due to the time relationship. We have to look at the drunk driving problem of former President Moon Jae In's daughter, Moon Da-hye, and this was also mentioned in the National Security Council's National Assembly inspection yesterday. Now, Moon Da-hye is known to be coordinating the police's investigation schedule, but lawmaker Yoon Gun-young said that he should be punished strictly. What do you think?

[Jungwook Seo]
They say they're adjusting the schedule now, but is the criminal a great person? I'm just the daughter of a former president, but I have to come if she tells me to come, so I don't have to coordinate the schedule. The more absurd answer is that they will change the place where there is a security problem and investigate like Mrs. Kim Gun-hee. Does this make sense? Is it the same as the security manual of the sitting president and the first lady and the daughter of the former president? Come into the police station any time you want to investigate drunk driving by the general public. Isn't it over if you just come in, investigate, and punish? I don't understand why the police have to think about this particularly and become an issue. He's not even the daughter of the incumbent president. It doesn't make sense. In particular, the research is conducted by changing places. How much did the opposition attack then? Because of the security issue of First Lady Kim Gun-hee, we are investigating by changing the location, but if we change the location and investigate Moon Da-hye, this is a ridiculous preferential treatment.

[Anchor]
While talking about it, Representative Yoon Gun-young also mentioned that former President Moon Jae In would feel the same way. What do you think?

[Kang Sungpil]
As our lawyer Seo Jung-wook said, Moon Da-hye is just the daughter of the former president and is not a great person. But why do you keep calling someone like this to the parliamentary audit? It's a waste of time. I'm not saying the Democratic Party did a good job.
You are wrong. In other words, you should be investigated quickly according to the procedure, prosecuted, or tried, and be legally punished. And instead of making journalists and police tired, I want them to appear as soon as possible and apologize to the public on their way back.

[Anchor]
I see. That's all for today's two of you. Attorney Seo Jeong-wook and Kang Sung-pil, vice chairman of the Democratic Party's National Communication Committee. Thank you for talking with me today.