Cho Kyung-tae, "Depending on the 尹 press conference, a 'special prosecutor' may be needed."

◆ [YTN Radio SHINYUL's news]
■ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (17:00-19:00)
■ Air date: November 5, 2024 (Tuesday)
■ Proceedings: Shin Yul, Professor of Political Science and Diplomacy at Myongji University
■ Talk: Cho Kyung-tae, member of the People's Power,

* The text below may differ from the actual broadcast content, so please check the broadcast for more accurate information.

- 尹 should contain an 'honest apology' in his public conversation
- Installation of the second annex? It's late
- You may need a 'special prosecutor' according to this discourse
- 尹, are you determined to talk? Reflecting much of Chu Kyung-ho's opinion
- If 尹 Korea was serious about South Korea's demands, it would have been received at the meeting
- 尹 Chu Kyung-ho's statement... It is not a desirable appearance
- Party should not be seen as subordinates and subordinates of the government
- Government should respect Han Dong-hoon as 'party leader'
- 'Myeongtae-gyun gate' needs to mobilize all internal information to respond
- It should not be seen as a common image with Yongsan to the people
- The role of the party to find out the truth through party audit
- Lee Jae-myung, if you are proud, should broadcast the trial live
- The current ruling party's crisis, in the attitude of the president, not Lee Jae-myung.

◆ Shin Yul: Here comes the second part of the news battle of Shin Yul. I'm Cho Kyung-tae, a member of the People's Power, who will meet in the second part today. I'm on the phone right now. How are you, Senator?

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: Hello. Hello,

◆ Shin Yul: Hi, I'm looking at the news. There is a rumor that representative Han Dong-hoon met with senior members of the people's power today.

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: We didn't meet today, we're going to meet tomorrow.

◆ Shin Yul: We didn't meet today. We're meeting tomorrow. We're meeting tomorrow, and CEO Han Dong-hoon said that today, right? On the 7th, the president of Yoon Suk Yeol should talk about things that fit the public's eyes. What do you think when you said this?

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: Yes, I think that's a very obvious thing to say. It should contain such a statement that meets the eye level of the four people. It should be included in the statement. This is the position.

◆ Shin Yul: But the eye level is kind of vague. Since you said it at your eye level, I'll ask you this. In the case of Representative Cho Kyung-tae, he is the most-elected lawmaker, but in his view, President Yoon will make a public statement and hold a press conference on the 7th, so how do you think he should talk about it? at eye level

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: First of all, isn't it a bit unfortunate to have a press conference and to have a press conference until this happened anyway, and isn't it quite a pity from the people's point of view? To be honest, I think the president's statement will probably contain enough. I think it will be a public statement based on an apology based on seriousness to the people.

◆ Sin Yul: A frank apology. But just in case. If we make this assumption, I am very sorry that this is what has caused the people's concerns. So we're going to build a second annex. If it comes out like this, how would you rate it?

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: Yes, I've been talking about having to build a second annex for a long time. It's a little late on that part, but anyway, isn't there anything that representative Han Dong-hoon suggested to any president about a number of other things, including the establishment of the second annex? I think that it is the public's expectation that all those contents are contained.

◆ Shin Yul: But I'm curious. Isn't it a message against CEO Han Dong-hoon's request to stop external activities of First Lady Kim Gun-hee to set up a second annex?

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: Not necessarily. You may know better than me in the second annex, but even if it is not necessarily exposed, the second annex is installed, so if you look at the schedule officially, you can say that this is managed. Even the invisible part

◆ SHINYUL: Isn't it about doing activities? Invisible

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: So, I can't do anything about the part of activities that are invisible, but I think that the second annex is meaningful in the sense of minimizing activities anyway. In addition, I think it is more appropriate for the public to accept the special inspector system as well.

◆ Shin Yul: What do you think of the special counsel?

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: I think the special prosecutor's part is a part that can be judged after the public statement and press conference on the 7th.

◆ Sin-ryul: You may need it after that. Do you understand it like this?

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: Yes, yes. Now, there is criticism from the party that the existing special prosecutor of the opposition party will be politically controversial and use it as a tool to use the judicial risk of Lee Jae-myung, chairman of the Democratic Party of Korea.In any case, I think there will be volatility in that regard depending on the outcome on the 7th.

◆ Shin Yul: Okay. But didn't President Yoon say he would do something at the end of the month? I was surprised to see if it was 10:30 last night. I was drinking a beer at home and the emergency news came up and I saw something, and why did President Yoon suddenly change his mind that he was doing it on the 7th?

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: I don't know because we're not in charge of the secret parts.In any case, I feel very late about the President's statement, the President's press conference, which is related to the current situation. In any case, I feel late, but if there is a misunderstanding, I think it would be better to resolve the misunderstanding and to express your intention honestly and honestly about such suspicions among the people.

◆ Shin Yul: But what I'm curious about is did President Yoon Suk Yeol accept Han Dong-hoon's three demands because he thought, "Oh, I should do this, too?" How do you see it?

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: As you know better than I do,
◆ Shin Yul: What do I know?

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: In fact, if accepting Han Dong-hoon's three requirements was sincere, I think the answer would have come out then when the president and the party leader met. But after a while, I suddenly announced a statement and said I would hold a press conference on the 7th, so I guess it came out while looking at the flow of public sentiment.

◆ Shin Yul: But floor leader Choo Kyung-ho said, "I think it would be better to pull it because we talked about it yesterday." You said this, then did you hear about floor leader Choo Kyung-ho?

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: There is a part where it is read that the story of floor leader Choo Kyung-ho has been reflected a lot in the result theory.

◆ Shin-yul: But theoretically, it's not important to say who's up or down, but wouldn't it be a little hard for the public to see if there's no reaction when the party leader talks and then the floor leader Choo Kyung-ho talks about it? What do you think?

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: Actually, after the president and the representative had a meeting last time, didn't the representative Choo have dinner with the president? Even then, it was usually a little noisy because of that problem. Again, I don't think it's desirable to create a lot of misunderstanding about procedures and various parts in the part of the presidential speech. In fact, the party and the government have a healthy relationship of real horizontal tension. The party and the government sometimes have to cooperate, but sometimes they have to check. However, it is not very desirable to make it look like a subordinate or subordinate. That's how I look at it.

◆ Shin Yul: Yes. And since the field you're in charge is different, I believe you can't think like that if you're dealing with subordinates, but that's not right. But now, rather. I'll tell you the poll period later, but in fact, the public's power approval rating has increased by 2 percentage points from last week based on Gallup Korea. However, the president's approval rating plummeted to 19%. There is a phenomenon in which we call decoupling, in other words, decoupling, a phenomenon of decoupling, which is actually a relief from the perspective of conservatives. Do you agree with this analysis?

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: It's quite a relief that our party's approval rating has risen by a little more than 2%, but isn't there a part where the president's approval rating has fallen completely quickly? The problem is that if the People's Power Uri Party does not respond properly, if it does not respond properly, the people's power may eventually fall dramatically. Therefore, the current phenomenon must be viewed very seriously from the power of the people. That's how I look at it.

◆ Shin Yul: You said it was a proper response, what do you mean first?

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: First, we need to normalize the relationship between the party and the government.

◆ Sin Yul: That's the response.

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: To do that, as our party said earlier, it's not very appropriate to be seen as a subordinate of the government. In that sense, isn't Han Dong-hoon the representative of our party in the government now representing the party? I believe that it is necessary to respect the establishment of a basic relationship with CEO Han Dong-hoon so that it can lead to a horizontal relationship. In addition, the party also criticizes and checks the government's wrong or wrong behavior. I think that's a healthy relationship between the party and the government.

◆ Shin Yul: And isn't it because of the recording of Myung Tae Kyun? With the disclosure of the phone conversation between the president and Myung Tae-kyun, this situation has come to an end. Of course, the Gallup Korea Poll conducted a telephone interview with 1,005 voters aged 18 or older nationwide from the 29th to the 31st of last month. For more information, please refer to the website of the National Election Opinion Review Committee. This poll does not include a conversation between Myung Tae-kyun and the president.

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: That's right.

◆ Sin-ryul: So next week, Gallup Korea is coming out every week, but sometimes it doesn't come out, so I don't know if it will come out this week, but anyway, how do you watch it? Do you think you're going to crash a little more? Presidential approval rating?

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: Yes, I think that the results of the statement on the 7th will probably affect the next poll.

◆ Shin Yul: The discourse on the 7th, so if you settle it well then, it will go up a little? No, but the phone call between Myung Tae-kyun and the president. How can the party handle that well now?

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: Right now, the party is probably trying to find out the truth about this through a more intimate investigation. Also, as I said earlier, if the party does not respond properly, it is very likely that it will fall together if it does not show how it responds properly. So, now that the people have full expectations for the party of people's power, it is necessary to respond quite more actively to this part from now on. That's how I look at it.

◆ Shin-yul: But what did the Supreme Council member Kim Jong-hyuk say? He said it's a little hard to fix because Yongsan hasn't said anything now. So are you out of that condition now? How do you rate it?

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: I think I'm probably doing my own research right now. And I also think it's another role of the party to find out the truth by revealing the results to the public when a strong party audit, an intensive internal audit, or an internal investigation reveals the illusion of opinion polls or other inappropriate parts. I think it's very likely that looking at the presidential office will give the people the feeling that they are in the same vein. So this is what our party has to do to respond to this properly.

◆ Sin-ryul: We need to prepare to use all our intelligence to respond to this problem on our own anyway. I think that's what you're talking about, right?

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: Yes, that's right.

◆ Shin Yul: But the Democratic Party of Korea also held an outdoor rally last weekend. And I think we're going to have an outdoor rally this weekend as well. I mean, who is it this weekend? I think they're preparing for it when they say it's a civil society organization. How do you see it? The Democratic Party's Out-of-the-Off-the-Counter Movement
◇ Cho Kyung-tae: In the past, the Democratic Party of Korea has been excited, as you know, right now? The Democratic Party has always inflated the opponent's little excuse and attacked him again. So, I think that since our party or Yongsan cannot respond properly, what some Democrats claim is working again. Anyway, comprehensively, the people are watching and the people are judging, so our party should look at this more seriously. This is where I keep emphasizing.

◆ Sin-ryul: The Democratic Party, though, has not spoken of the term impeachment. What do you think is the reason?

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: Actually, he's talking about impeachment. However, if this goes out too much, people will probably be reticent in terms of national resistance and headwinds, but they probably have a desire to do that, right?

◆ Shin Yul: And what the Democratic Party is talking about a lot is the constitutional amendment to shorten the term of office. How do you watch that?

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: Yeah, I think that's a little bit inappropriate. In fact, lawmakers guarantee a four-year term, but don't they often finish their terms even if they use inappropriate expressions and misrepresentations?

◆ Shin Yul: No, even if he is indicted, he will serve his entire term, but that seems to be the trend these days.

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: There are many cases where you finish the trial and fill it up for four years, so shortening the term is an expression that goes out too much even if you go out. However, regardless of that, I think the presidential office should also wake up to the people's disappointment with the presidential office, regardless of how to resolve the anger and how to resolve it.

◆ Shin Yul: This is a very controversial constitutional amendment to shorten the term of office. According to Article 128 of the Constitution, in fact, the constitutional amendment to extend the president's term or change his term of office is not effective for the president at the time of the constitutional amendment proposal, but the Democratic Party of Korea says here that it is only related to the extension of the term of office, but there is no talk of shortening the term of office. It's a kind of logic that says, "I can do this." In fact, this seems to be very controversial even among constitutional scholars. So, shortening the extension is not important, and some interpret the constitution of the Constitution as meaning that it should not be used for the presidential term, so that would be a little controversial, but one more thing I want to ask you is that the opposition party makes a lot of arguments reminiscent of the impeachment of former President Park Geun Hye as a lawmaker. But what do you think is the difference between then and now?

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: At that time, there were a lot of very complicated and shocking parts, to the point where it was impossible to distinguish whether the truth was true or false through the medium of Choi Soon-sil, which was quite confusing. But now, because there is a certain effect of learning at that time, there seems to be a part where the people look at it in detail and calmly. So, the situation is a little different from then, but anyway, if this gets a little worse and the atmosphere is not specified in the presidential office's reform plan, the atmosphere will inevitably deteriorate. Of course, the opposition party will not claim it, but it can be quite difficult to perform the duties of the president, so I think the presidential office should change significantly to prevent it from doing so.

◆ Shin Yul: Representative Lee Jae-myung's first trial is held twice on November 15th and 25th, and we can't talk about whether it's innocent or not. I can't predict it, but it's loud about whether to broadcast the first trial live or not. How do you see it? Senator Cho?

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: Of course, it's a matter of court judgment on this.Ma is a matter of very high public interest, isn't it? And don't opposition lawmakers also say themselves that Chairman Lee Jae-myung is not guilty? How unfair would it be if the wrong result came out in this trial if it was such an innocent case? Therefore, if the opposition party is innocent, it is right to make sure that there is no suspicion of shame through this live broadcast. In particular, I don't think the opposition party has any reason to reject the live broadcast.

◆ Shin Yul: Representative Lee Jae-myung's first trial ruling will be made in the future, so let's divide it like this. Considering the number of cases in which innocence and guilt are again deprived of the right to vote and the number of cases in which they are deprived of the right to vote, what do you think the impact on the political situation will be in the future?

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: I'm going to have a little impact, but the public sentiment that is raging right now is not with Lee Jae-myung, but with the president's office. So what else is CEO Lee Jae-myung guilty of?

◆ Credit: Deprivation of the right to run for election

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: Even if you receive such a sentence of deprivation of the right to vote, isn't this the first trial? Since it is the first trial sentence, the second and third trials remain, so I think it is very likely that the Democratic Party will respond fairly firmly. So in this regard, if we don't show any changes in our presidential office regardless of this sentence, the crisis is in our ruling camp, not in the opposition camp. That's how I analyze it.

◆ Shin Yul: You mentioned the changes, but will the changes include personnel reshuffling?

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: Of course, personnel reform should be done. It includes what representative Han Dong-hoon told the president last time. I think that accepting those parts will be quite helpful in solving the problem.

◆ Sin-ryul: But what percentage do you think that's justifiable and realistically acceptable? Is it more than 50%?

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: I think we'll have to see it on the 7th. I'm looking forward to being accepted like that on the 7th. If you look forward to it and don't accept it, I think you'll feel that it's not enough to quell the public sentiment.

◆ Sin Yul: Public sentiment may get worse. I think that's what you mean, right?

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: Yes, yes, yes, yes.

◆ Shin Yul: Yes, but the president's press conference starts at 10 o'clock. Morning?

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: Yes, it starts at 10 o'clock.

◆ Sin Yul: That's when I was in class. That's the class time. I also feel very sorry that I can't see it, but in the end, in the end, when Representative Cho sees it, the president's statement and press conference on November 7th will be an important watershed in the political situation. Right, there's no question. I can understand it like this, right?

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: Yes, yes, I look forward to a press conference in the presidential office that can meet the public's expectations.

◆ Sin Yul: But one more thing. Just in case. What will happen if there's an additional recording of Myung Taekyun?

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: That's why on November 7th, the president can ask questions like this at a meeting with reporters, right? I think it's the best way to answer that really honestly and honestly.

◆ Shin Yul: But actually, there's something that I always insist on. People don't remember much about political issues there for that long. I don't remember that, but the memory disappears, but the image lasts a long time. So it's very important depending on what image you give, and unfortunately, the president's office gave an explanation, but the president hung up afterwards until the primary. But I called you on May 9th. Since the people have this image, it won't be easy to get away with it, what do you think?

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: So I think the Blue House was too clumsy with the president's office's initial response. I made it unbelievable through such a wrong explanation that something that would get caught quickly. So, as I said earlier, the best way is to be honest, but what I have shown so far is a response that is far from being honest. I should not repeat these situations, which continue to disappoint the people by not saying honestly that there has been this situation. I hope that November 7th will be a good lesson.

◆ Sin Yul: Yes, thank you very much for today's talk. Thank you.

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: Yes, thank you.

◆ Shin Yul: It was Cho Kyung-tae, a member of the People's Power.