[YTN Radio News Fighting Bae Seunghee]
□ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (07:15 - 09:00)
□ Broadcast date and time: November 19, 2024 (Tue)
□ Host: Attorney Bae Seung-hee
□ Cast: Kwak Kyu-taek, Senior Spokesman for People's Power
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◆ Attorney Bae Seung-hee (hereinafter referred to as Bae Seung-hee): I'm Bae Seung-hee from News Fighting. Continuing with the issue interview. Representative Lee Jae-myung faced difficulties as he was sentenced to prison from the first gate of the judicial risk. The Democratic Party is raising the level of the offensive by defining the sentence as a political judgment. In this regard, we will connect with Kwak Kyu-taek, the chief spokesman for the People's Power. Are you here?
◇Kwak Gyu-taek, Senior Spokesman for People's Power (hereinafter referred to as Kwak Gyu-taek): Yes, hello. I'm Kwak Kyu-taek.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Representative Lee Jae-myung was sentenced to one year in prison and two years of probation for violating the Public Official Election Act. The Democratic Party is saying, "It's a heavier sentence than expected." Is it really a heavier sentence?
◇Kwak Gyu-taek: If you are convicted because you asked me about the expected sentence in a broadcast interview before the sentence, you will be sentenced to one year to one and a half in prison. I've said this before. However, this case itself cannot be acquitted of such matters as having never played golf with Kim Moon-ki, or having been threatened by the Ministry of Land, Infrastructure and Transport about the change of Baekhyun-dong's use when he was mayor of Seongnam in the past. If convicted, the public was very interested in the matter itself at the time, and it was a big election called the presidential election, so he continued to deny it again. Considering this in court, I don't think it was a matter that could be fined, and I think a one-year prison sentence is an appropriate sentence.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: There was also a similar criminal record. There's a story like this, too.
◇Kwak Gyu-taek: Yes, that's right.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Also, regarding this, Heo Kyung-young was also sentenced to prison.
◇Kwak Gyu-taek: Yes, that's right. And there was a person who expected a fine in the election law. At the time of this election, it was a big election called the presidential election, and what he said was a very important part of the fact, so I think it was an issue that could not be fined.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: However, the Democratic Party of Korea has turned towards this judiciary and floor leader Park Chan-dae is a clear judicial murder. Supreme Council member Kim Min-seok said, "Is he a judge who graduated from Seoul National University of Law?" How do you look like this?
◇Kwak Gyu-taek: You seem to be making violent and strong remarks because of such loyalty competition within the Democratic Party, are you Park Chan-dae's floor leader in particular? He even said, "It's a crazy ruling by a crazy government." For example, this remark completely ignores the independence and independence of the judiciary, which is independent of the government, so I think that even if it is a statement out of loyalty, it is too much as a politician. In addition, I think these remarks will continue in the future, and I think these parts will have a very bad impact on the judiciary in the future.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. Some of the listeners are asking about what they're curious about. Why isn't there a threat regarding this repurposing made by the parliamentary audit? He texted me saying that he was curious about why this would violate the election law together. Can I ask you to explain it?
◇Kwak Gyu-taek: As Gyeonggi-do governor, didn't the issues related to Baekhyun-dong in Daejang-dong emerge as very important issues in the process of answering questions at the National Audit Office? When I was mayor of Seongnam at the time, I changed the use of these parts at my own judgment, and it was as if I had no intention of doing so, but the Ministry of Land, Infrastructure and Transport threatened me and said that I had no choice but to change the use. So, whether that part is false or not became a big issue. The court did not make such a decision to change the use by threat at the time, but Mayor Lee Jae-myung himself judged it when he was mayor of Seongnam.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: I also think that this case was decided more like this because there were actually presidential candidates and two candidates for governor of Gyeonggi-do at that time.
◇Kwak Gyu-taek: Yes.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes, I see. The strong supporters of the Democratic Party are. He is even claiming the impeachment of a judge on this part. How do you see it?
◇Kwak Gyu-taek: In fact, we were very concerned about those parts, but until then, four investigative prosecutors who entered the 22nd National Assembly and investigated Lee Jae-myung and the Democratic Party were impeached in a row. They've filed an impeachment motion. However, we will also impeach the judge who will judge against representative Lee Jae-myung in the future while looking at that part. I have raised these concerns, and I have also raised such issues at the time of the parliamentary audit. However, seeing such stories already coming out from the Democratic Party of Korea, I am very concerned that if a very unfavorable ruling is confirmed, the judges who were involved will also file such an impeachment motion.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: I understand that the People's Power is preparing countermeasures to prevent delays in trials in cases of violations of the Public Official Election Act. Supreme Court Chief Justice Cho Hee-dae is the 633 principle in the election law trial. Six months, three months, three months, he emphasized that the principles should be observed. Will there be a final ruling on the Public Official Election Act by next year?
◇Kwak Gyu-taek: Yes. The Public Official Election Act case against representative Lee Jae-myung. Originally, it was the first trial, so it was supposed to be sentenced within six months, but it took as long as two years and two months. However, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court has asked you to comply with the regulation that requires that violations of the Public Official Election Act be completed by the Supreme Court within six months, three months, and three months and a year. In that sense, if the principle is that the appeals court and the Supreme Court's ruling should be completed within six to seven months in the future against Lee Jae-myung, the ruling itself should be finalized by June to July next year. In particular, it is emerging as a strong presidential candidate, and in this regard, it seems that the people can make the right choice only when the ruling is confirmed before then. We also look forward to the speedy process of appeals by the judiciary.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: If the Supreme Court is confirmed, the Democratic Party will have to return 43.4 billion won in election subsidies. The Democratic Party thinks it can avoid this return, so the people's power is preparing a bill, what happens?
◇Kwak Gyu-taek: Yes. Kwak No-hyun, the superintendent of education who served as the superintendent in the past, was also criticized by public opinion when he tried to run again without returning such funds. However, although this is a large amount of 43.4 billion won, it seems that the Democratic Party of Korea can return it sufficiently considering the Democratic Party's self-reliance. However, since there is a concern that these parts will not be returned, if Representative Cho Eun-hee does not return the election subsidy by proposing it as a representative from the people's power, he has proposed a revision to the Public Official Election Act by deducting subsidies that will be denied to political parties in the future. However, since the Democratic Party of Korea is also a public party, it has enough funds, and I think it will return 43.4 billion won if the sentence is confirmed.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: If I don't do it, can the NEC execute it?
◇Kwak Gyu-taek: Of course. Since the execution is carried out in accordance with the national tax collection procedure, it must be carried out by compulsory execution.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see. Now, the second judicial risk gateway, the perjury teacher case, is a week away. There are areas where a heavier sentence is expected than the election law. How do you view it?
◇Kwak Gyu-taek: The part called perjury teacher is actually a crime that constitutes obstruction of justice, so if you are found guilty, you will be severely punished in other perjury cases. In addition, there is a tendency that the person who gave perjury to the person who gave perjury tends to be punished more heavily than the person who gave perjury.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: That's right.
◇Kwak Gyu-taek: If the perjury teacher case is convicted, I think it will probably be sentenced to about a year and a half to two years in prison, which is more serious than the Public Official Election Act.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: About a year and a half to two years.
◇Kwak Gyu-taek: Of course, it is at the discretion of the judiciary whether or not the probation will be sentenced together, but this issue is also more likely to be punished seriously than the Public Official Election Act.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Do you expect probation rather than court custody?
◇Kwak Gyu-taek: Not really. It is enough to be arrested in court, but it seems difficult to predict whether it will be suspended or arrested in court. However, the sentence will be more severe than the Public Official Election Act. Look at it like this.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Please understand that the connection was uneven during the phone call. Can this perjury teacher's case sentence also be broadcast live?
◇Kwak Gyu-taek: In terms of guaranteeing the people's right to know in the power of our people, we also requested a live broadcast in court on the 15th. Of course, I think it is right to broadcast the case sentenced on the 25th live to satisfy the people's right to know. Also, because he was convicted in the first trial last week, the public's interest in next Monday's case is high. Although it is at the discretion of the judiciary, I think it is right to broadcast live the case next Monday.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: We can expect another year and a half to two years in court. You said that, but in fact, the court arrest has nothing to do with the arrest agreement, right?
◇Kwak Gyu-taek: There are some parts where opinions are divided. However, unlike the violation of the Public Official Election Act, this part of the perjury teacher was included in the arrest motion in the 21st National Assembly. The National Assembly approved the arrest agreement, but if the perjury teacher is convicted, it is included in the last approval of the arrest agreement, so it can be arrested in court without the need for new consent from the National Assembly.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Is that so? The session has changed, can I continue to write the motion?
◇Kwak Gyu-taek: There are no regulations on those parts. First of all, the contents of the matters that were agreed to be arrested by the National Assembly are included, so of course, some say that this cannot be maintained because the accounting of the National Assembly has changed.Ma thinks that this is not a challenge to legal restraint.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see. The arrest motion also applies to court arrest.
◇Kwak Gyu-taek: Yes, that's right.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Okay. So if I don't arrest him in court, he'll be like a lawmaker Cho Kuk now that he's postponing it until later?
◇Kwak Gyu-taek: If you say you are not in court custody, you will be tried without detention until it is confirmed. If the Supreme Court confirms the part sentenced to prison as it is, the sentence will be executed then.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. In the past, I remember that they were arrested in court and then asked to release their arrest during the session, but this could be another variable.
◇Kwak Gyu-taek: In the past, it was probably a bail case. He was arrested with the consent of the arrest, then released on bail, but when he cancels the bail and re-arrests, the effect of the arrest motion remains the same. Therefore, there is a case where he was arrested without obtaining a separate consent for arrest. Of course, it's not the same as the issue, but opinions are now divided on those parts.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: You're right. I can feel the pain of this court. I see. After the first trial came out after the Public Official Election Act, the pro-Myeong community is also cracking down on it. In the case of Rep. Choi Min-hee, if he moves, I will kill him along with the party members. That's how I warned you. The Democratic Party's colleague looks unusual. What happens if you're guilty of perjury?
◇Kwak Gyu-taek: First of all, I think the public is very concerned about saying such nonsense as a member of the National Assembly. No matter how important and worrisome internal solidarity is now, it seems inappropriate to respond like that even with such nonsense, and the Democratic Party of Korea says that there is no problem with internal solidarity right now, but the fact that such nonsense itself is already a matter of internal solidarity and concern about representative Lee Jae-myung's one-pole system. And if you are convicted of the perjury teacher case next week on the 25th, you will be more concerned about this internal Democratic Party of Korea's agitation.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see. Rep. Kang Seung-gyu also proposed to create a fact-finding committee on the mysterious affairs of people around Lee Jae-myung. In fact, the ruling of the Public Official Election Act also clearly states the process of the death of the late Kim Moon-ki. I know that some lawmakers have expressed sympathy on these areas, so how do you evaluate them?
◇Kwak Gyu-taek: It's a very cautious part, but I think there were some mysterious questions during the past investigation process and trial process of CEO Lee Jae-myung. Also, there were a lot of people who made extreme choices, so I think there are a lot of people who are very curious about whether this is a coincidence. So, in the meantime, I haven't been able to talk about it because I'm a little sensitive to that in the power of the people, but with this ruling, I think there will be a lot of opinions inside and outside the party on the need to check the question of those around Lee Jae-myung next week depending on the situation of the ruling.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see. This time, let me ask you about the bulletin board of the People's Power Party. Kim Min-jeon, the supreme council member. "We need to correct ourselves," he said. "We need to investigate the articles criticizing President Yoon and his wife in the name of Han Dong-hoon and his family." That's what I asked for. What is the leadership's position?
◇Kwak Gyu-taek: So I'm actually thinking about whether the author's name was stolen, but that part has been filed with the police and I think it's a part that will be confirmed by a police investigation in the future. And even within the party, the issue of such a party bulletin board has been discussed sufficiently at the general meeting of the members, and the system has been changed to prevent such problems from occurring in the future within the party. And I understand that we are internally checking whether the name was used for such posts on the party's bulletin board in the past.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Isn't it a problem that ends when CEO Han Dong-hoon confirms that he is not a family member before confirming the police investigation?
◇Kwak Gyu-taek: But that's the status of the party members, so I think there will be another official announcement after we check it internally and confirm it all.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see. Rep. Lee Joon-seok is making this revelation that he intervened in the nomination of candidates for local elections when he was president-elect of Yoon Suk Yeol. Do you think it's reliable?
◇Kwak Gyu-taek: I don't know. If CEO Lee Joon-seok says that it's true, it's very questionable why he hasn't revealed it until now. As representative Lee Joon-seok defected from the people's power now, such disputes had existed since then. If so, I think if there was an inappropriate intervention in the nomination, I would have made that a problem earlier and talked about it confidently, but after being silent, I think that there is a risk that Myung Tae-kyun will be arrested and he will be on the investigation list.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Do you judge that it's not credible at all?
◇Kwak Gyu-taek: That's right.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes, I see. Thank you for your words today.
◇Kwak Gyu-taek: Yes, thank you.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Until now, I was Kwak Kyu-taek, the chief spokesman for the People's Power.
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