[New Square 10] Yoon, after impeachment...Han Dong-hoon's press conference to express his future.

■ Hosted by: Anchor Park Seok-won, Anchor Um Ji-min
■ Starring: Lee Joon-woo, member of the People's Power Media Special Committee, and Seol Ju-wan, former vice chairman of the Democratic Party of Korea's legal committee

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[Anchor]
Let's take a look at the situation with the two of you. Lee Joon-woo, a member of the People's Power Media Special Committee, and Seol Ju-wan, a former vice chairman of the Democratic Party of Korea's legal committee. Welcome.

First, let's talk about the Constitutional Court. The first constitutional judges' meeting was held a little while ago at 10 o'clock, and the process such as discussion will continue, so will the future process be confirmed?

[Seol Joo-wan]
It will be difficult to set the schedule in detail to some extent. First of all, this part has to be reached again because the impeachment process has been carried out according to the general procedure, and then the resolution has arrived now. Of course, the impeachment motion, which was voted on by the National Assembly, was delivered to the president's office, the administration, and the president in the National Assembly, and the Constitutional Court has to send it again. I received it at the same time as a respondent to the Constitutional Court. President Yoon Suk Yeol's lawsuit begins, the constitutional lawsuit. Therefore, it will start with the delivery of the complaint and set a hearing date as in general procedures, but there are impeachment trials that have already been received in today's trial.

I think the six judges will go through a brief process to agree on whether to take precedence over that or to do it sequentially, and how many times a week the impeachment trial against the president will be intensively conducted, if so. [Anchor] I think the part that the Constitutional Court you mentioned delivers to President Yoon of the impeachment trial request was carried out today. After that, I think future schedules will be confirmed next time, but various stories are coming out over a little time. What do you think of these observations that we will proceed as soon as possible or fill 180 days?

[Lee Junwoo]
I think we should refer to the impeachment of former President Park Geun Hye last time. At that time, there were very few issues and related parties. It was very simple. There were only a handful of people involved. They are Choi Soon-sil, Jeong Yu-ra, and Choi Soon-sil's nephew, but there are a lot of people involved in this case. So, more than 16 people, including the commanders, were investigated. In addition, there is a police command and a member of the State Council, so I think about 40 people will attend just to testify if the hearing is held. If so, the president has expressed his intention to come out and plead in person. And it will be difficult for the Constitutional Court to stop it because he said he would do a live broadcast. It is the principle of the Constitutional Court to listen to the respondent's position as much as possible. Therefore, there are a lot of people involved and there are probably a lot of testimonies, evidence, or documents, but when hearing these things, it is a relatively simple matter of suspected rebellion, but if you look at the actual contents, it will take a considerable amount of time because a lot of people and documents are mobilized, I think so.

[Anchor]
As you said, the issue is clear due to civil war. What will be the issue in this Constitutional Court trial?

[Seol Joo-wan]
I will look at the Constitutional Court in a different way from the general courts. The Constitutional Court is a place to see if it violates the Constitution. It's not about judging whether you're guilty of rebellion. It's a matter that will be decided in a general criminal court. Whether the act of declaring emergency martial law falls under the requirements set by the Constitution, the Constitutional Court will probably judge only this part. If so, I will not judge whether there is a crime of rebellion. The same applies to whether the president had an accurate Cabinet meeting before the emergency martial law procedure and then the prime minister's department when it was lifted.

It should have gone through a cabinet meeting when it was lifted. We will check these procedural parts whether the Cabinet meeting is just a formality or a practical one. As I said earlier, the national emergency situation is the most controversial issue now, whether it meets the emergency martial law requirements stipulated in the Constitution. But there was no war or incident on that. I'm going to make a judgment on that. Now, President Yoon probably did this as a warning. When it comes to warning, it's about preliminary emergency martial law. However, in the Constitution, we don't have an academic emergency martial law called a preliminary emergency martial law. There is no concept that can be done in advance, but emergency martial law itself is a post-suppression and post-mortem concept. So I think there may be a legal debate about this part.

[Anchor]
And the president's legitimate act of governance continues to claim that it was a legitimate act of governance. What will happen to this part?

[Lee Junwoo]
The declaration of martial law is the power guaranteed by law. If you use that authority, then the question is whether the reason is justified when you use that authority. As you can see from Yoon Suk Yeol's presidential statement, he defined the opposition as an anti-national action, an anti-national force. One of the reasons was the budget manipulation and the abuse of impeachment. So one of the president's own powers is the right to appoint and dismiss, which he repeatedly did to neutralize. If it's only once or twice, it can't be a reason, but since it's been more than 20 times, the Constitutional Court has paralyzed the function of the government and the function of the president. There's that, too.

Regarding the budget, the presidential office, the prosecution, and the police have cut down on the investigation base related to people's livelihoods, and the anti-aircraft investigation, so it may be accepted that this is not a normal government function. There can be such a part, and as I said, it's a matter of procedure. Did you hold a Cabinet meeting and go through the procedures normally? Did you cancel it normally?

So, the legitimacy of the reason for the declaration of martial law and the legitimacy of the procedure are likely to be two issues in the Constitutional Court, but to tell you more, didn't you tell me the crime of rebellion earlier? If the police are investigating the crime of rebellion, and the same case is criminally done by the investigative agency, the Constitutional Court can postpone it for a while until the result comes out. If the Constitutional Court holds a meeting today, what will it do about this? Will you wait or ignore it and do our psychology? I think this will also be discussed together.

[Anchor]
It is said that the Constitutional Court Act, which you mentioned, can stop judging the Constitutional Court for a while after being prosecuted by the criminal law right now, but the prevailing analysis seems to be that it will not stop because it is not a compulsory authority.

[Seol Joo-wan]
Perhaps it will be difficult to stop in this case. As I said earlier, the reason for the suspension of prosecutor Son Joon-sung's case and such cases was that there was room for dispute in criminal cases. Even in the Constitutional Court, prosecutor Son Joon-sung used this to find him guilty in the first trial.This is open to dispute. Can the contents of the defendant's talk or the respondent's talk be recognized as abuse of authority? I think there was a little bit of a question about this, that is, whether the crime was established. That's why let's wait for the judgment of the criminal proceedings. But just after I stopped it, I was acquitted at the second trial. If so, it is guilty in the first trial and innocent in the second trial. Then you have to wait until the third trial.

That's why the Constitutional Court also stopped this part, but this case is different. There was just an emergency martial law in this case. Everything happened. There is only a question of whether the requirements are correct or not. So, whether or not to be punished for rebellion is a matter of criminal court, investigation by the investigative agency, and then prosecution in court, and this is a matter that can be stopped in the Constitutional Court Act because it only determines whether the declaration of emergency martial law is constitutional or not. It says you can do it, so it doesn't matter if you don't do it. However, I think there is a very high probability that the Constitutional Court will conclude this impeachment trial without stopping with the aim of ending any confusion regarding the impeachment of the president as soon as possible.

[Anchor]
Then, will the impeachment trial and criminal trial of the president of Yoon Suk Yeol proceed at the same time?

[Seol Joo-wan]
That's right. Considering that it will proceed at the same time, the impeachment trial is very likely to proceed as an impeachment trial. In my view, given the seriousness and urgency of the situation, there is a high probability that the referee will be judged twice a week. It's a very important crime in the general criminal court, and when I think I need to end this hearing quickly, I usually do an intensive hearing, but it's usually done twice a week. If it's three times a week, the lawyer will say that the time to prepare for defense is too short, so usually, I think we'll set a judgment date during the week and proceed quickly. If that's the case, I don't know. President Yoon Suk Yeol can apply for a lot of witnesses and evidence, but during the last president of Park Geun Hye, he also applied for a lot of witnesses.There were only a few who were accepted. If that's the case, it could be different from then.Ma believes that the trial will proceed faster than expected because the Constitutional Court may not accept all of the respondents' requests for witnesses or any requests for evidence.

[Anchor]
There are also various analyses regarding the timing of the early presidential election, because two of the constitutional judges will retire in April next year, so it will be concluded before April and within two months, so it will be a cherry blossom presidential election in April or May, or after that, there are talks about the rose presidential election and the heat wave presidential election. What do you think?

[Lee Junwoo]
It's April 18th. Justice Moon Hyung-bae and Justice Lee Mi-shin will end their terms on April 18. So what the opposition is pushing for now is to quickly recommend three judges to the National Assembly and make an order, because there are six people now. But if you go on April 18th, there will be 7 people without 2 people from 9 people. Then, according to the Constitutional Court law, seven people can conduct a normal hearing. So, in my opinion, Moon Hyung-bae, the acting head of the Constitutional Court, interviewed him the other day, saying that he would speed up now. And even six people can do it. I personally said yes, but that's what I think these two happen to be judges appointed by former President Moon Jae In.

So, I don't think these two judges appointed by former President Moon Jae In will go to trial on any charges, but if the number of judges decreases to seven now, there is a high possibility that the hearing will be conducted more than enough without meeting the April 18 criteria. So it could be 180 days full. And actually, it could be over 180 days. Because the original regulations are like that, but there is no way to restrain this even if it exceeds 180 days. So, if there are more hearings or more witnesses, it is possible to hold a rainy day for more than 180 days, that is, I think so.

[Anchor]
7, I think you're watching until August. How do you watch it?

[Seol Joo-wan]
I think it's more likely to come out sooner than expected. The issue isn't as complicated as I thought. It was a short time, wasn't it? Even with the emergency martial law, it was a situation of about two or three hours. Of course, what needs to be revealed now is the situation before the emergency martial law. The investigation is also focused on that. Perhaps the Constitutional Court will also gather a lot of evidence regarding that. As I prepare for the emergency martial law, I think this is the data that can determine whether there were any illegal factors, whether it was a matter that could be equivalent to the emergency martial law, or whether it was intended to create a situation. In that sense, if I say that the nine-member system will be completed by the end of this month before the change, I think if I can hear it quickly, I think I can judge twice a week before April 15, the retirement date of judges Moon Hyung-bae and Lee Mi-sun.

[Lee Junwoo]
There were two impeachment cases last time, but the president didn't speak in person at that time. The same goes for former President Roh Moo Hyun and former President Park Geun Hye, but this time, it will not end that short because the lawyer, President Yoon Suk Yeol, will plead in person. The Constitutional Court will fully listen to it. This is because even after the Constitutional Court is over, it will be an important trial that remains as historical records, so I think it will be a hearing that does not speed up that fast and listens enough.

[Anchor]
Does it also affect the duration of the trial if the person being judged makes a direct argument?

[Lee Junwoo]
Of course, because the defenders who exercise their defense have a lot more to say. And from the perspective of the National Assembly, it seems that Chung Cheong-rae, chairman of the impeachment committee, is expected to come out now. Then the two of you can have a fight at the Constitutional Court. Of course, the Constitutional Judge will arbitrate there. Then, of course, it gets longer.

[Anchor]
Depending on the impeachment sentence, the timing of the presidential election varies. As we said, will it be April, July, and August? However, it seems that the advantages and disadvantages of the ruling and opposition parties will differ depending on that point. What do you expect?

[Seol Joo-wan]
It seems natural that the people's power wants to earn a little more time. The current internal strife in the party has not been easily sorted out, and it seems that the internal strife is intensifying.If Ma says so, who will be the presidential candidate from this power of the people? That's not easy either. It is not easy to find a candidate, and if so, I think we should have time to ease the public's desire for impeachment at a time when the people's hearts are high. Regardless of whether it's long or short, I think it's very advantageous for the Democratic Party of Korea and very unfavorable for the people's power, so I think public opinion will move depending on what kind of emergency rule the people have and their attitude toward impeachment.

[Anchor]
It is known that President Yoon is now at his home, watching the investigation and reviewing the law on how to defend himself. However, there are also a lot of remarks made by military leaders that contradict President Yoon's public statement. Among them, Kwak Jong-geun, commander of the Special Warfare Command, broke the door and pulled out the lawmakers. That's where the troops were sent to maintain order in the public statement, and there is a part where this part is deployed, drawing attention to how commander Kwak Jong-geun's investigation will proceed. At 10 a.m. this morning, Special Warfare Commander Kwak Jong-geun attended to review the arrest warrant, and if the screen is ready, I will talk to the two again after looking at the screen.

Once again, it will be decided today whether Special Warfare Commander Kwak Jong-geun will be arrested, and when asked by reporters this morning, he was silent during the screening process. But if you listen to the previous explanations. I'll tell you when the screen comes on. The interrogation of the suspect under arrest will be held today, but I don't think the screen has come in yet. I'll tell you when I come back. Let's take a look at the political situation after the passing of President Yoon's impeachment. There are areas where the ruling and opposition parties are very busy right now, and lawmaker Yoon Sang-hyun criticized the lawmakers who voted for it within the power of the people after the approval. Is there a recording of Rep. Yoon Sang-hyun? If you have a story of lawmaker Yoon Sang-hyun, let's hear about lawmaker Yoon Sang-hyun. Rep. Yoon Sang-hyun's story has also been recorded. Let's listen to it.

[Anchor]
Rep. Yoon Sang-hyun said there were a lot of rebellion votes, how did you hear it?

[Lee Junwoo]
There's a reason why I can only say that. Didn't you have a meeting before entering the plenary hall? According to the party regulations, the final decision of the party's theory is to be a show of hands or stand up when the party's theory is gathered at the general meeting. So I investigated how many people supported impeachment with a show of hands. At that time, seven people were originally known to the media, but five people raised their hands inside the president. So two said they would give up. Also, Secretary-General Seo Bum-soo and others. So, he entered the plenary session with party arguments gathered at the general meeting that he would be rejected because there were about four votes of abstention and five votes in favor of impeachment.

But when 12 votes came out and they approved of impeachment, the current chairman responded very strongly. We all gathered opinions from within this group and went in with an expectation of about five people, but since 12 votes came out, there was no choice but to raise such a rousing voice as to whether we could be called the same party members or lawmakers. So what came out was that despite the conclusion of the general meeting, despite the party's argument, Han Dong-hoon gave a separate order or order in some SNS room where he was gathered separately. If that's not the case, there was a claim against CEO Han Dong-hoon, saying, "Isn't it difficult to approve because 12 people left like that?"

The responsibility theory came out intensely. That's why the lawmakers told me to bring representative Han Dong-hoon right now. Chief of Staff Park Jung-ha must have been very surprised. So I know where it is, but they say they can't pick me up, so who brings it? Bring him back, though. That's how Park Jung-ha, the chief of staff, decided to quit as the chief of staff, but rather put everything down. It became the trigger.

[Anchor]
The Power of the People How to deal with the internal strife in the future?

[Lee Junwoo]
Speaking of which today, I think CEO Han Dong-hoon will officially announce his resignation soon. Then, floor leader Kwon Sung-dong will have an acting system and switch to an emergency committee system. However, this becomes a very important situation, such as who will be the chairman of the emergency committee and how many members and who will be the emergency committee. So today, CEO Han Dong-hoon's official position. We don't know what we're going to say at the press conference until the end. After confirming that, it is expected that the discussion on the emergency committee system will begin by opening the protocol.

[Anchor]
There will be a press conference in about 5 minutes, and when the press conference is held, we will connect to the site and listen to the voice. In fact, he said he would announce his resignation, but I think attention is being paid to what other stories will come out besides his resignation. What should we talk about?

[Seol Joo-wan]
In reality, there seems to be no other way but to resign. As far as I know, the current representative has the authority to appoint the chairman of the BB committee.It seems that such a situation is not right for political action by weighing the party constitutional party regulations one by one. If that's the case, there's nothing but resignation.What is very unfortunate is that will the people be able to sympathize with lawmaker Yoon Sang-hyun's remarks? Let's simply keep our loyalty among our own members, and that made me feel hopeless. On the contrary, I think it is President Yoon Suk Yeol and the 85 members of the People's Power who are trying to defend his Yoon Suk Yeol.

On the contrary, the president said he would fight any investigation or impeachment because he thought President Yoon Suk Yeol did something wrong until the end. Then, in order to prevent the division of the party, you should have told him in advance to approve the impeachment. This should have definitely been said when we spoke on Friday. Nevertheless, it's causing a division of the party without any such talk. Then in this situation. He went to the Constitutional Court and said he would plead the legitimacy of the emergency martial law. If so, it should be done so as not to break the party in that regard, but the declaration of emergency martial law itself, but until the end, I think President Yoon Suk Yeol has no responsibility for the conservative camp, so I'm worried that the people's power will become such a declining party because I'm afraid that I'll fall as an anti-constitutional force.

[Lee Junwoo]
If I tell you the counterargument, President Yoon Suk Yeol is preparing for impeachment by forming a defense team, but he's preparing for impeachment anyway, so shouldn't we impeach him with partyism? Isn't it natural that we have the military with war in mind? Let's train soldiers. So impeachment was one of many scenarios. That's why the roadmap for the early presidential election came out, and there were talks about resignation, and so on, and one of them was impeachment, so for the president, preparing for impeachment is about repairing in case it rains, and with this, I'm ready to be impeached, so I don't think it's appropriate to interpret it as impeachment.

[Anchor]
CEO Han Dong-hoon will announce his position in about a minute, was it around 4 p.m. yesterday? At that time, the media reported that CEO Han Dong-hoon would hold a press conference, but this was not the case. Does this show that CEO Han Dong-hoon is that confused?

[Lee Junwoo]
I think you can see it like that. As far as I know yesterday, it's not misinformation. It is said that they originally made an actual announcement. At 4 p.m., CEO Han Dong-hoon said he would hold a press conference himself, so I informed him, but from what I heard internally, CEO Han Dong-hoon said, "I said I would hold a press conference, didn't I ever say it was 4 p.m?" and I think there was a slight mistake in practice. So I corrected it and re-announced it like that at 10:30 a.m. today, the next day, but I think there are still pros and cons about when to do it and what content it contains.

[Anchor]
Meanwhile, at a similar time yesterday morning, Chairman Lee Jae-myung said in a press conference, "Now there is neither the ruling party nor the opposition party. I also proposed a national council, but right after that, floor leader Kwon Sung-dong said, "We are still the ruling party." How do you view this conflict between the leaders of the ruling and opposition parties and the floor leaders?

[Seol Joo-wan]
I think it's a part where Lee Jae-myung can make such a proposal as a big opposition leader. I don't think it's different from the last time representative Han Dong-hoon and Prime Minister Han Deok-soo stood on the podium together and said they would jointly run the government. There are some things that have not been realized, but I think the opposition leader may have been more concerned about the impeachment, especially the economic situation starting today. So, in order to give a stable signal to economic players, whether externally or not, I think it's natural to do it as an opposition leader in terms of giving a signal to feel safe because the government is stabilizing now. Regarding that, floor leader Kwon Sung-dong said, "We are still the ruling party. I'm not sure if it's the ruling party. I don't know if I have the ability as a ruling party. It's such a situation, but rather, through cooperation, CEO Lee Jae-myung also...

[Anchor]
Wait a minute, CEO Han Dong-hoon came in. Let's listen to CEO Han Dong-hoon's story right away. It's the scene of the interview. Now CEO Han Dong-hoon will enter the press conference and announce his position in front of reporters. Let's listen to it.

[Han Dong-hoon / Representative of People's Power: Put down the leadership of the People's Power Party. The resignation of the supreme council members caused the collapse of the supreme council, making it impossible to carry out normal duties as party leader anymore. I sincerely apologize to all the people suffering from this emergency martial law incident. Martial law in 2024 for Korea, an advanced country. How angry and disappointed you must have been. I'm very sorry to our supporters who are heartbroken by impeachment. With that in mind, I tried everything to find a better way to this country, not impeachment, but in the end, I couldn't. It's all because I'm not good enough. I'm sorry. Ladies and gentlemen, on the night of December 3rd, party leaders and lawmakers were the first to take the lead in preventing illegal martial law by the president produced by our party. I kept the Constitution and democracy. I think that's the real spirit of conservatism. I think it's the spirit of the people's power that I love.

If we sympathize with extremists like rigged election conspiracy theorists, extreme YouTubers, or are eroded by the horrors they produce commercially, there will be no future for conservatives. If martial law had not been lifted that night, bloodshed could have taken place between our citizens and our young soldiers who had taken to the streets since the next morning. That night, I was so afraid that I wouldn't be able to stop it. No matter how much the president produced by our party is misunderstood as if we are advocating illegal martial law with the military, betraying the spirit of conservatism and the brilliant achievements of our party to this great country and its people who have achieved industrialization and democratization at the same time.

When I was asked to resign at the general meeting of the National Assembly on the day before yesterday, a young reporter asked if I regret the approval of impeachment, which was the reason why I was expelled from the party leader. A lot of thoughts, and a lot of scenes in my life, were stroked for a second. It's very painful to think of our heartbroken supporters, but I still don't regret it. Because I promised not to betray the Republic of Korea and the sovereign people no matter what.

However, just because martial law is wrong does not justify the charges of runaway and crimes by the Democratic Party and its representative Lee Jae-myung. The timer for Lee Jae-myung's trial is going on without stopping. There aren't many left. Thank you to the people. I would also like to thank the people for their criticism. I would also like to thank my party comrades and our party officials. I hope the country goes well. Thank you.]

[Anchor]
There was also floor leader Kwon Sung-dong at the scene, and he shook hands with floor leader Kwon Sung-dong as he left the scene. When asked if he had any regrets in favor of impeachment after resigning, he said, "I don't regret it." How did you like it?

[Lee Junwoo]
There's this part of the speech. The first comment was that I couldn't play the role of the party leader because I resigned from the top. He is forced to resign from the party due to external circumstances rather than his own political judgment or decision. It seems that the situation you see now has revealed your own perspective. There is a move that went back and forth when there was impeachment. I voted for impeachment, then against it, then against it, and then against it, and then I went back and forth on a daily basis. Despite the floor's criticism that the leadership is a little shaky, it stands out that he said he was stepping down because of the resignation of the top committee. Another thing is that Lee Jae-myung can be thought of as a red carpet to the presidential election for Lee Jae-myung, who is now stepping down and impeaching him, but that is not true.

I think this means that I left a little room for the presidential election because I said that the judicial process will be processed soon. So I think I'll reveal it later over time, but if an early presidential election takes place, I think it also means that I'll try to face Lee Jae-myung. And if you look at the other thing, you'll notice that you're going to cut it right when you see it when you say it earlier. It's the letter behind our company. I think a lot of people will think about it while looking at that. Are you talking about this situation or is this the result of it? A lot of people would think, I think so.

[Anchor]
Han Dong-hoon is now the former CEO. Former CEO Han Dong-hoon bowed his head and apologized. I apologized to the people once. One time, I apologized separately to my supporters. How did you see this?

[Seol Joo-wan]
That's what I'm saying. It's a pity that the power of the people is the only support that connects the people to impeachment or emergency martial law, or I thought it was a link, but it seems to kick it. Now, for example, against impeachment. Say you're against impeachment. Can you see a big flow of it, it's only increasing week by week? Rather, the people who come out and come out have more citizens. But is the power of the people a party that can overcome that? On the day the emergency martial law is declared, this is impeachment. I was the one who opposed impeachment in principle. It is not right to impeach just because his approval rating is low. However, when the emergency decree was declared, this was directly unconstitutional by the president.

Then what if I don't impeach this? Of course, I don't know what the Constitutional Court will decide when I go to the impeachment trial.Ma thinks that it should be impeached anyway because the president caused an illegal and unconstitutional situation on his own, but what kind of partisan politics do most of the lawmakers who oppose it say that? Are you going against the will of the majority of the people? I'm not sure if you're really saying you're going to continue politics with the public's approval rating of about 20%, but representative Han Dong-hoon showed up at the plenary session on that day, and it was the only bank where the people's power could not rise. However, I don't feel sorry for the power of the people as I see them breaking it down on their own. I'm looking forward to the future of the people's power because I'm not something to be criticized for and I'm not sorry for.

[Anchor]
Then, what will happen to your future moves? Is Kwon Sung-dong, the floor leader, now acting as the party leader, turning into an emergency committee?

[Lee Junwoo]
That's right. It's been confirmed. Since it has been formalized, the acting president will check the process of going to the emergency committee system right away. So after checking the schedule of the National Committee, the acting president will make a schedule for the National Committee, but in the last case, it was former party leader Lee Joon-seok. According to the procedure at that time, there was a precedent that it was possible to convene a national committee on mobile. So, the National Committee is convened very quickly and appointed by the acting president when the emergency committee chairman is appointed, even if it is on mobile. In that way, I think we will go to a system that stabilizes while forming an emergency committee.

[Anchor]
Earlier, in the collaboration book, we tried to deliver the attendance report to the president's office and that there is a plan, and we told you as a breaking news, but breaking news came from the field, so we will deliver it to you. Originally, the publication requested President Yoon to attend on the 18th, but the request for attendance does not seem to be delivered properly. The Emergency Security Joint Investigation Headquarters arrived at the president's office with a request for attendance to President Yoon Suk Yeol a little while ago, but it was not delivered because it was not discussed with the general secretary's office in advance. This news has now been reported from the scene.

President Yoon Suk Yeol is now in Hannam-dong's official residence, and Gong Dong-bon explained that this is the place where public offices are delivered. If today's attendance request is not delivered, I haven't reviewed any questions about future plans yet. When asked if he was not going to his official residence, he said he had not reviewed it so far.

This is the presidential office, and President Yoon is staying in his official residence, but anyway, he had to go to the presidential office, so he tried to submit a request for attendance to the general secretary's office in the presidential office, but the general secretary's office did not receive it because it said there was no prior consultation with us. Earlier, the prosecution also sent an official request to the president's office to cooperate with the investigation, but once, President Yoon refused to comply with the appointment of a lawyer. The prosecution said it would notify the summons again today, but now it is in a position to refuse to comply with the summons notification of the prosecution, so the prosecution's summons notification seems to be still uncertain.

It is known that President Yoon Suk Yeol has expressed this position that it is difficult to attend because the appointment of a lawyer has not been completed. President Yoon Suk Yeol, as I mentioned earlier, you said that you could speak in person in the impeachment trial, but if a lawyer is not appointed, will you not be present?

[Lee Junwoo]
Usually, if a lawyer is not appointed, the court delays the date a little. I'm just taking the situation into account. CEO Lee Jae-myung is doing that right now. CEO Lee Jae-myung needs to receive an appeal trial and a notice of case data. Then the official proceedings of the appeals court will begin. But what happened was that first, don't the court staff take the notice with them? Then, the employees in the party leader's office refuse to receive it because I am not the representative of Lee Jae-myung. I've had that a few times. And the other thing is that if you have an attorney, you can give it to the lawyer. Then it's equally effective.

But the lawyer is not appointed right now. So, CEO Lee Jae-myung is being suspected of deliberately not appointing a lawyer to delay receiving the notice. And in fact, last time, former lawmaker Choi Kang-wook sent a notice from the court, and he did it like this. At that time, aides to Representative Choi Kang-wook's office refused to receive it, saying I was not a party to Representative Choi Kang-wook. I've been holding the trial for two months like that. In this way, representative Lee Jae-myung can also have more trials, and in the case of President Yoon Suk Yeol, if the formation of lawyers is delayed, it could increase a little.
I think that can't be helped.

[Anchor]
While there is a possibility that the trial deadline may be increased little by little, there are still various interpretations on whether or not to attend because the notice of attendance has not yet been delivered properly. Let's look at the internal situation of the people's power a little more. Since it will be converted to an emergency committee in the future and the procedures will be carried out on mobile, the process is likely to proceed quickly until the next emergency committee chairman is appointed. There are many observations about who will be the next emergency committee chairman. What do you think?

[Seol Joo-wan]
Former CEO Kim Moo-sung was also mentioned. It's not decided yet.E. So, I think that the senior politicians who call themselves standing advisors will head the emergency committee, and I think that I will probably go there in the form of an election. Well, what is the emergency committee chairman doing now from the power of the people? The number is also 200, but if the veto is exercised, it seems that the demand for reconsideration and constitutional amendment have already gone up in smoke. Therefore, there is nothing special to do as a chairman of the emergency committee, but I think it will be a situation where the party will be removed a little in the process of preparing for the early presidential election in the future.

It depends on the speed of the Constitutional Court's judgment and then how the decision is made.Ma seems to have a process of first adjusting the party, but that may be the process of preparing for the presidential election. However, it is not easy to select a presidential candidate now. Of course, there are enough candidates for Daegu Mayor Hong Joon Pyo and Seoul Mayor Oh Se-hoon.Ma will probably see what happens after the upcoming impeachment trial, for example, after the impeachment decision, and maybe they will judge.

[Anchor]
I think Rep. Lee Joon-woo can clarify this part. Chairman of the Emergency Management Committee, which task should I come and solve first?

[Lee Junwoo]
First of all, it's a party-government consultative body. So, stabilizing the people's livelihood with the government is the top priority. And then we have to go into the problem of stabilizing the party. In any case, the party's representative Han Dong-hoon came, and the conflict within the party was very intense. So many, not many, who supported representative Han Dong-hoon, but if those lawmakers under 20 say they are in the floor now that representative Han Dong-hoon has resigned, shouldn't they join forces with the party? I think I'll do it.

However, as you just said, there was a brief talk about former lawmaker Kim Moo-sung, but this does not seem that realistic. You've been away from central politics for a very long time. Also, from what I've covered, you're not that willing. Next, Kwon Young-se and Won Hee-ryong, the second-ranked member at the last national convention, were the former minister. I think Kwon Young-se and Won Hee-ryong will discuss the emergency committee chairman today. So, I think the vision will probably come out as the discussion centered on these two people came into the chairman's office.

[Anchor]
If it is discussed today, when will the announcement be made?

[Lee Junwoo]
I think we need to see the presentation.

[Anchor]
Is there a possibility that it will come out within this week?

[Lee Junwoo]
There's a chance it'll come out within this week.

[Anchor]
In the meantime, Jamryong is making various movements within the ruling party, and a wide variety of figures are gradually warming up within the opposition party. Because early presidential elections become visible. After that, we will have to see the Constitutional Court's judgment. What do you think of the movement of Jamryong from within the opposition party?

[Seol Joo-wan]
It is true that representative Lee Jae-myung has the most overwhelming advantage. Until now, he has maintained the representative system and won the general election by a landslide as a representative, especially the impeachment prosecution this time.

[Anchor]
Chairman Woo Won-sik is the first to see that credibility...

[Seol Joo-wan]
That is disliked by Lee Jae-myung's supporters. However, everyone would think that Chairman Woo Won-sik is the most outstanding politician in the impeachment and emergency martial law. Chairman Woo Won-sik was the one who had a meeting on the night of the emergency decree so that the emergency decree could be lifted quickly, and after the impeachment process and the impeachment resolution, I did my best until the end. I think he is a politician who did his best for those 10 days, and I think there has been a parliamentary speaker who has stood out like this in the past, so I think it was an emergency martial law situation where National Assembly Speaker Woo Won-sik stood out very much.

I don't know. The National Assembly speaker became a presidential candidate, and Prime Minister Chung Sye-kyun.Chairman Woo Won-sik has never expressed his thoughts on the presidential election. But I don't know. In the past, Prime Minister Chung Sye-kyun was also the chairman of the National Assembly and then the prime minister and then the presidential candidate. Rep. Woo Won-sik also said, "Whether the speaker of the National Assembly is the last in politics. Usually we think the last member of the parliament is the speaker, but isn't there a way to resist what the public or public calls? However, it seems to be true that Chairman Woo Won-sik's flexibility and strength, and the internal steel of foreign oil, which were shown this time, were well received by many people.

Even so, I understand that Lee Jae-myung is the most overwhelmingly dominant candidate in the opposition party as a whole, and compared to that, former South Gyeongsang Province Governor Kim Kyung-soo and former Prime Minister Kim Boo-kyum are now thinking. I can confirm that you are moving slowly, and it seems that you will probably participate in the presidential election. For example, those things are not kicking, but rather a problem that can be aimed at kicking a car. That's why I don't think anyone will object to Lee Jae-myung's overwhelming lead in the opposition, but others will probably think about it. The problem is that the power of the people is more... I think of the judicial risk of representative Lee Jae-myung.Ma, in reality, I'm a lawyer, but I don't think it's going to be easy for the Supreme Court to make a ruling.

So that's what the people are talking about right now. If you do this as quickly as the Constitutional Court's trial period, it means that Lee Jae-myung's appeal should proceed quickly, but in my opinion, that has a big impact. So, for example, even if the Supreme Court says that the appeals court is guilty in April or May, it is very difficult to set a deadline at the Supreme Court, even if you are guilty at that time, you are a presidential candidate. I even registered as a presidential candidate. By the way, the Supreme Court sets a deadline and sentences the loss of the right to run for election? I don't think it's going to be easy.

Because we saw the news today.In the case of representative Ma, the Supreme Court has been held nine months after the second trial ended. However, I don't think CEO Lee Jae-myung will make a final decision in just a month or two. The controversy is likely to emerge. Will you be able to hold a trial after becoming president or not? It's related to this part, too.The Supreme Court does not necessarily set a date to set a deadline. Therefore, Lee Jae-myung's judicial risk will not have a significant impact. I think.

[Anchor]
Due to the judicial risk of representative Lee Jae-myung, whom lawyer Seol Joo-wan mentioned, the timing of the presidential election will be a little more worrisome in the people's power. How do you see this now?

[Lee Junwoo]
In the end, I think the court has the key. There is a barometer to judge this. It's the Supreme Court's sentence of representative Cho Kuk. Former representative Cho Kuk asked to postpone the sentencing date because of this situation, but the court seemed to be agonizing, but in the end, he did not postpone it. The reason is how much delay was made in the trial during the last Moon Jae In administration? It took five years for Cho Kuk himself. In the case of lawmaker Yoon Mi-hyang, it took four years. Originally, the trial was supposed to be completed in a year or two, but you were eventually convicted after you finished your term as a member of the National Assembly due to the delay in the trial, right?

If the trial comes out within a year, you should have returned your salary and left earlier. Given that it was such a situation, I think the court probably sees it like this. My country is my country, Lee Jae-myung is Lee Jae-myung, and the president is the president. So I think there is such a firm will that the trial will no longer be shaken while looking at the regime's eyes. Wouldn't the appellate court postpone the sentence this time? Then, the court cannot escape strong criticism. So looking at the regime, looking at the future power, looking at the judiciary's own head is something that cannot happen in judicial history.

[Anchor]
However, if an early presidential election is held, wouldn't the ruling camp also highlight the next presidential candidate within the ruling camp, that is, the theory of personality? In that sense, former CEO Han Dong-hoon resigned, and what kind of people do you see?

[Lee Junwoo]
It is ambiguous to say that it is a ruling party, but it is almost as if Lee Joon-seok, a member of the New Reform Party, has virtually declared his candidacy for president. My birthday is March 30th next year. If the presidential election starts after that, I can run. I said I'm going to run. So, it is expected that Rep. Lee Joon-seok will come out now. The other one is the one who always comes out. The person mentioned as Jamryong is the mayor of Hong Joon Pyo. The Hong Joon Pyo market is a little similar to former President Moon Jae In last time. Former President Moon Jae In re-entered the presidential election and came in, and impeachment was also held at that time. And now, if the Hong Joon Pyo market doesn't come out, right? Then, it comes out during the time of impeachment again.

However, President Moon Jae In was an opposition party at the time and now the ruling party is in a different situation, but the mayor of Hong Joon Pyo will probably be very troubled. After turning Daegu City into a by-product. It's not actually an advantage, is it? The president we created has been impeached, so can I win the presidential election in this situation? I don't think it's going to be easy if I see that possibility. So who will be the presidential candidate in the ruling party now? I think I should look at it like this because I'm in a very difficult situation right now.

The reason why Mayor Oh Se-hoon thinks he can't come out better is because Mayor Oh Se-hoon spoke in favor of impeachment this time. It can be very difficult to get support from the right. Because how much support from the rightists and how much the center can bring up is the determination of the presidential election, but if the rightists cannot bring up all the rightists, this is a game that cannot be done. So there will be a burden of supporting impeachment. The second is that the mayor of Seoul will make another by-product of Seoul. Last time, I had an experience of giving up Seoul City to the opposition party by submitting a by-election due to the issue of school meals. This time, it's a bad situation. In this situation, if the mayor of Seoul is elected in a by-election, the opposition party is likely to take it. That's why the political burden is quite heavy, Mayor Oh.

[Anchor]
I see. I'll stop listening to it. So far, I have been with Lee Joon-woo, a member of the People's Power Media Special Committee, and Seol Ju-wan, a former vice chairman of the Democratic Party of Korea's legal committee. Thank you.