[Issue Plus] Cho Dong-bon asked President Yoon to attend the 2nd round... There was another "hamburger meeting"?

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■ Starring: Kang Jeon-ae, legal advisor for People's Power, Lee Seung-hoon, vice chairman of the Democratic Party of Korea's strategic planning

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[Anchor]
Let's take a look at today's Jungkook situation with the two. Kang Jeon-ae, a legal advisor on the power of the people, and Lee Seung-hoon, vice chairman of the strategic planning of the Democratic Party of Korea, came out. Welcome. The Government-General of Korea sent President Yoon a request for attendance again, asking him to attend next Wednesday, that is, Christmas. Why did he choose a public holiday?

[Kang Kang Ae]
First of all, if you think about the investigation into Mrs. Kim Gun-hee last time, didn't you have a security problem at that time and didn't you do a summons investigation somewhere else? As a result, security seems to be the most important part of the president, but since days like Christmas are a public holiday, it's actually an investigative agency, but most civil servants can't go to work. Then there's something here that can solve the security problem to some extent, and the prosecution has transferred all the documents as a result.Didn't the police tell you to come out on the 21st? It seems that the summons was notified on the 25th with a similar date.

[Anchor]
This time, we also sent electronic notices, but if so, should I say that we also have the possibility in mind of not receiving documents?

[Lee Seung Hoon]
We have that possibility in mind, but we won't even take electronic notices. In the end, it's thought of as a drag. I'm sure the air conditioning headquarters all know. That's why it seems very likely that the president has set it as Christmas Day to show his willingness to investigate quickly, as he will give notice and show the quickness of his investigation, as his lawyers are yet to be formed and yet to be formed, for which reason it is almost certain to postpone again.

[Anchor]
Now, President Yoon's side has expressed this position that there is no decision on attendance on the 25th, and there is no possibility that he will appear on the 25th when the defense team is still not set up?

[Kang Kang Ae]
Lawyer Seok Dong-hyun is also saying that rather than working as a lawyer, he will help with some public information or something like this. Now the lawyers are saying that they are not fully set up. However, in this regard, the prosecution initially requested attendance on the 15th. But I didn't tell the media for the first time at that time, but it was the 11th that I sent it. I told him to come out at 10 a.m. on the 15th, but the president did not attend, so I told the media that evening and used the expression that he did not come out without a justifiable reason.

At that time, the president later revealed that he had not been appointed as a lawyer, but as a result, the investigative agency saw that not being appointed as a lawyer was not a legitimate reason, and the reason why this word is meaningful is that in terms of issuing an arrest warrant, he or she does not attend without justifiable reasons under the Criminal Procedure Act. Then, I think it was a briefing to the media considering the warrants and such.

[Anchor]
If the government continues to refuse to comply, it will be considering the possibility of forced recruitment, that is, the possibility of an arrest warrant that has just been mentioned, but do you think there is a certain possibility that this will become a reality?

[Lee Seung Hoon]
There were quite a few. In fact, when Park Se-hyun, the head of the investigation division, was expected to be very quick when investigating, and there was a competitive system between each other, but as the investigation is now unified as a cooperative copy, the will to investigate may be dampened, the investigation may lack the capacity of the investigation, and when prosecuting, it is likely to lead the investigation now. And there is a possibility that the arrest warrant will be delayed a little. The head of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit was also appointed by President Yoon Suk Yeol. In addition, the nature of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit itself is leading the case more than expected, as seen in the last case of Chae. So the possibility of an arrest warrant being executed quickly or sought is slightly less likely. That's what I'm thinking. Now, rather than legal arguments, I think the focus will be on the fact that martial law was justified in the tax people.

[Anchor]
Park Ji-won of the Democratic Party said this now. A rebellion mob can be arrested without a warrant. Arrest the airlift immediately. Warn that if the bodyguard interferes, the bodyguard could be punished for sympathizing with the rebellion or obstructing the execution of official duties, I said this, is that possible?

[Kang Kang Ae]
Perhaps what Representative Park Ji-won said now seems to be talking about an emergency arrest. Emergency arrest is when you find a suspect by chance, or when you are in a situation where it is difficult to obtain a court warrant. However, in the case of emergency arrest, I think it will be difficult for the president now. Former Minister Kim Yong-hyun and the leaders of the military like this must first make an emergency arrest and then re-arrest after receiving a court warrant within 48 hours. After receiving the warrant, he is now officially arrested, but the president's duties are suspended, but the courtesy is still the same. So, because there are security guards as they are, this is a very exceptional part of warrantism, but rather than conflict with the security service, I think the investigative agency would rather choose the part where it formally receives a warrant from the court.

[Anchor]
In fact, even if the president is present, since he is an incumbent president, there should be active discussions with the security service.

[Lee Seung Hoon]
That's right. That's why they voluntarily come out for investigation and then issue an arrest warrant through an emergency arrest. Or if you refuse to investigate at all, if you issue a preliminary arrest warrant first and then talk to the security office, you can't do it carelessly because it can interfere with the execution of official duties. So, I think we should apply for an arrest warrant or go to a plan like this when we voluntarily come. If not, I think physical collisions may also be inevitable.

[Anchor]
President Yoon has not received documents related to the impeachment trial by the Constitutional Court for five days now. In response, Rep. Park Ji-won of the Democratic Party said this. President Yoon said that he received a birthday cake sent by his supporters and rejected the documents sent by the Constitutional Court, and that he is an unscrupulous and selective receipt of the president from the prosecution. The day before yesterday was President Yoon's birthday.

[Kang Kang Ae]
Isn't there a story that President Yoon Suk Yeol told in his public statement? He said he would not shy away from legal and political responsibility, and in the case of an impeachment trial, there is a fixed date. It's done on the 27th, and it's already set to hold a hearing preparation date, but even if you don't get an answer, the preparation date proceeds as it is. However, of course, you have to submit an answer, but you are now informed to submit an answer within a week or seven days after receiving the notice, so wouldn't everyone expect that you have to submit an answer to make a more faithful argument from the first day? However, on the 27th, I think there is a possibility that the preparation process will not be faithfully completed, although I will probably appoint lawyers before that.

[Anchor]
If the preparation date scheduled for the 27th is not actually delivered, isn't it possible to be delayed a little?

[Lee Seung Hoon]
It could be delayed. Because it's a perfunctory procedure, I know that President Yoon Suk Yeol doesn't take it on purpose, obviously. Despite knowing that it has already been served on TV and that there are many criticisms of the president, the Constitutional Court should follow the procedure, but the alternative is delivery. There is a procedure in which if it is sent by the Constitutional Court, it is regarded as a service. So, I understand that the Constitutional Court is now considering that procedure.

[Anchor]
He said it is too early to say that lawyer Seok Dong-hyun's role has yet to be included in the public information and in fact, but does the Democratic Party of Korea file a complaint against lawyer Seok Dong-hyun? This voice came out, too.

[Kang Kang Ae]
If what lawyer Seok Dong-hyun said is that he briefed the media as a lawyer if there is a senior lawyer, but what the Democratic Party is talking about now is that the Democratic Party of Korea is guilty of civil war when lawyer Seok Dong-hyun has not officially appointed a lawyer, right? Lawyer Seok Dong-hyun is also saying that he will file a complaint on charges of talking about the civil war as if he were in sympathy, aiding and abetting it. I think there will be some difficulties that can be recognized legally.It seems that there are certain parts that are a little ambiguous about the role of lawyer Ma Seok Dong-hyun.

[Anchor]
Lawyer Seok Dong-hyun said, "President Yoon Suk Yeol did not bring up his arrest body," but there is a report that the Airborne Division recently secured President Yoon's statement in the process of calling military officials to investigate. When President Yoon asked former Minister Kim Yong-hyun how many troops he had put in the National Assembly right after the National Assembly voted to lift the emergency martial law, he said, "President Yoon said, 'Look, it's not enough, you should have sent 1,000 people.' How did you see this?

[Lee Seung Hoon]
That's what it is. It's not enough. It should have put in 1,000 people so that they could prevent lawmakers from demanding the lifting of martial law, attract lawmakers, and keep lawmakers from entering. Because of this circumstantial evidence, it is very unfavorable to the president because it proves that he attempted to neutralize the power of the National Assembly, and that he ultimately rioted for the purpose of disrupting the national constitution.

In addition, in the case of lawyer Seok Dong-hyun, he does not have the purpose of working as a lawyer, but rather as a spokesman for President Yoon Suk Yeol, but rather as a close aide or friend. So, the president's responsibility is not to run, but to cover and incite the civil war. In this respect, the people are frustrated, and this state of anxiety is likely to continue. So, I think it will have a huge ripple effect on foreign trust and the national economy.

[Anchor]
The prosecution has launched a search and seizure by the National Investigation Headquarters of the police in connection with lawyer Seok Dong-hyun's claim that President Yoon has never taken out the body of the arrest. Is this because of the allegations that he eventually applied detectives to the martial law arrest group?

[Kang Kang Ae]
That's right. It looks like that, and aren't you investigating the director? Now, in fact, the arrest team is in operation, but the president says there is no such thing, and lawyer Seok Dong-hyun says so, but many military and police officials have said that they have received such stories directly from the president through the secret phone, such as pulling him down or arresting him. This is obviously a very unfavorable part for the president.

However, the prosecution is investigating the National Investigation Headquarters right now because the Korean people need to understand what actually happened in this situation without ruling and opposition parties, but there are parts that appear to be conflicts between certain investigative agencies. Recently, the prosecution did not have the right to investigate the crime of rebellion.Didn't Ma proceed and eventually move to the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit? I wondered if this would end, but the fact that the police are conducting forced investigations like this has some ugly aspects to each other, and the police may deny the statements made here.

However, it seems that the investigation has not been conducted yet, but the parts that martial law troops who entered the NEC told the prosecution to wait are also being reported in the media. Then, from the police's point of view, it is possible to say that the prosecution was deeply involved in this, and to confiscate and search for them again. I think the police, the prosecution, and the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit should talk in more detail about the right to investigate and the direction of progress.

[Anchor]
Regarding the transfer to the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, Rep. Jung Sung-ho analyzed that President Yoon Suk Yeol's intention would have been reflected, which is advantageous for taking a little longer. What do you think of that?

[Lee Seung Hoon]
That's what I see. The Democratic Party officially said you can't trust the prosecution. But in fact, the prosecution is very quick to hunt for dead power like a hyena. So, after the prosecution set up a special version, it quickly arrested former Defense Minister Kim Yong-hyun and investigated him very actively, but suddenly Prosecutor General Shim Woo-jung handed over only the president, former Minister of Public Administration and Security Lee Sang-min, and the president's aides to the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit.

Then, as you know, the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit lacks investigative ability and the number of investigators is very short. But all of a sudden, he took on the case of this big president. Then, of course, it will be delayed. However, if the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit conducts an investigation and then prosecutes it directly, it's better, but after investigating it again, you have to give it to the prosecution. I don't have the right to prosecute.

Then, if you receive the record again, the prosecution has to analyze it again. So, I think Park Se-hyun, the head of the investigation division, was a close aide to CEO Han Dong-hoon and was in a relationship between seniors and juniors, high school and university. In this regard, he must have been afraid of the prosecution because he drove the investigation very hard, and the minister of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit was appointed by the president, and he is likely to launch the investigation first by issuing an arrest warrant or not issuing a preliminary arrest warrant. In that respect, it is predicted that the delay in the investigation will be inevitable.

[Anchor]
Earlier, the police leadership and others raided the server to find out about the use of the non-phone, but the security office refused to receive proper information. Then, should we proceed with the investigation only with the testimony?

[Kang Kang Ae]
That's right. Because it's in the Criminal Procedure Act. For an institution with any military secrets, even if a warrant is issued, it can only be entered with the approval of the head of the institution. Because there was no approval now, there is no proper search and seizure of the server. In this regard, there are other clues that say that you just need the approval of the head of the institution I mentioned, and if there is no justifiable reason, you need to approve it.

If so, shouldn't the institutions respond more actively to this? Wouldn't it be an issue that the whole nation is watching about this rather than blocking it just because there is no approval from the head of the agency and just doing it as it is? Personally, I think we should actively submit data and proceed in the form of voluntary submission. [Anchor] The Korea Communications Standards Agency today requested an arrest warrant for Moon Sang-ho, the intelligence commander who is suspected of plotting martial law at a hamburger restaurant, and the warrant review was conducted at 4:40 p.m. today. What did you think of this part?

[Lee Seung Hoon]
First of all, I lied when I testified before the National Assembly. I don't know the former intelligence commander Roh Sang-won. And he said he had never conspired about this martial law, but he is now plotting martial law at a hamburger restaurant, and rather, under the command of a former commander, the incumbent intelligence commander plotted this martial law with the colonel. And it's been revealed that the National Election Commission or the National Election Commission prepared for martial law, such as ripping off servers, arresting employees, and so on to find out certain allegations of fraudulent elections.

In the end, the president cannot infiltrate the National Assembly to prevent lawmakers from demanding the lifting of martial law and continue to prevent demands for the lifting of martial law. Then, the justification to give to the people goes to the Election Commission to find out the suspicion of fraudulent elections through intelligence agencies. And this fraudulent election of intelligence is a distortion of the results of the general election that the Democratic Party won by an overwhelming majority, it was a fraudulent election, and I think it's a situation where we tried to continue our relationship with this martial law.

[Anchor]
On the other hand, not only the general level but also the Younggwan level testifies one by one. The information colonel issued an apology. It is known that he participated in the martial law conspiracy of a hamburger restaurant, so what should I say about the intention of issuing this apology?

[Kang Kang Ae]
First of all, I think these are parts to reduce the sentence in the investigation of oneself and later in the trial process. As a result, what I'm talking about now should be seen as a confession. When he confessed, there was a rule that could reduce the sentence, and looking at the investigation so far, it seems that he judged that it was more advantageous for him to talk actively than to continue not knowing or denying it.

[Anchor]
As you said earlier, Commander Moon Sang-ho said that he doesn't know Roh Sang-won well in the National Assembly, but in a recent joint investigation, he made a statement saying that Roh Sang-won's order was my order from former Defense Minister Kim Yong-hyun, and that he carried out various tasks as ordered by former Commander Roh Sang-won. What kind of person is Roh Sang-won?

[Lee Seung Hoon]
So I'm the intelligence commander. During the Park Geun Hye government, I was the head of security. Was it about 6 years ago? He was sentenced to prison for sexual harassment, arrested, and booked. Nevertheless, I met with former intelligence commander Roh Sang-won and reported to him, and Minister Kim Yong-hyun said, "That's what Roh said. So he had great power because he did martial law by telling me to follow what I said. In addition, I think I managed it efficiently in this respect, probably with greetings and saying that I will greet you while using active employees under the intelligence commander Roh Sang-won.

However, the parts that were absurd under the Yoon Suk Yeol government were perforation, Geonjinbeop, and Myeongtaekyun. But there were a lot of people who argued that this was a political offensive.Ma said former commander Roh Sang-won also had a fortune teller set up. What's absurd to me is why would I have done it on December 3rd if the president had done it on the weekend? I made this claim that it was a warning and predicted failure. Didn't Roh Sang-won, the former intelligence commander, even take over the date? This is speculation, but I really think this government is a government that can't move without sorcery.

[Anchor]
We continue to deliver this as an exclusive report today, but former intelligence commander Roh Sang-won, who is suspected of plotting martial law at a hamburger restaurant, held another meeting before that at the same hamburger store. What content was exchanged?

[Gangmulcheoreom]
At first, martial law was held on the 1st, but it was reported that Commander Moon Sang-ho and some people gathered there on the 1st to talk about martial law. When I looked at CCTV and CCTV inside a hamburger restaurant, I saw that former commander Roh Sang-won gathered and talked about people such as reservist colonel on the day of martial law. If you think about Roh Sang-won now, he is below former Minister Kim Yong-hyun's 3rd rank in the Military Academy.

This person was an information line, and former Minister Kim Yong-hyun said he was good at writing information reports and liked it. As a result, it was an information service, but I think I had that much wider network. So he had already been retired as a reserve, but he was very deeply involved in this situation, and a reserve colonel was also involved in the meeting at the hamburger restaurant on the 3rd. Then, in this martial law situation, it seems that the investigation should be spread more widely in all directions, saying that retired soldiers, not active soldiers, were actually mobilized together.

[Anchor]
Now, former commander Roh Sang-won said in a police investigation that if martial law had been declared at 10 p.m. as planned, he would have secured the NEC server. So are you still raising suspicions of fraudulent elections?

[Lee Seung Hoon]
You still believe in rigged elections. So, if only the NEC was seized because of this fraudulent election, we will reveal the fraudulent election to the public, and overturn this game by saying that the result of the Democratic Party's landslide victory in the general election was the result of the fraudulent election. I think he was trying to consolidate his power by maintaining martial law. But when we vote, we do all the counting by hand. And each dong got a few votes in several dongs. Someone got a few votes. This is delivered to the NEC and it appears on the computer in real time.

However, it is absurd that former Acting President Hwang Kyo-ahn or President Yoon Suk Yeol, who has been in power for two and a half years, has not found a fraudulent election even though he has power. Because of this delusion, former Minister Kim Yong-hyun, former intelligence commander Roh Sang-won, and the president practiced martial law in delusion. So, it's a really strange government that created a national emergency through martial law, not just martial law, to really prevent an emergency.

[Anchor]
On the other hand, the prosecution reportedly secured a voice recording file of former Defense Minister Kim Yong-hyun during martial law. Is it possible to prove the allegations?

[Kang Kang Ae]
Now, in the case of former Minister Kim Yong-hyun, it is known that he is actively making statements before the warrant examination, but uses the right to refuse statements after he is officially arrested. According to the media that reported that the prosecution now secured the recordings, they were held at a meeting chaired by former Minister Kim Yong-hyun shortly after the president declared emergency martial law. Then, of course, since it is right after the declaration of martial law, there may have been instructions to do where and what specifically.

In this regard, it may contain details such as whether the martial law soldiers who entered the National Assembly made an arrest team and how they would bring out the server after entering the election committee. If former Minister Kim Yong-hyun continues to use the right to refuse to make statements, it is not easy for the investigative agency to secure data or evidence, but there is no choice but to ask questions and answer them again, focusing on this recording, because it is his voice. I think we will use such an investigation strategy.

[Anchor]
Isn't former Minister Kim Yong-hyun keeping his mouth shut after the presidential statement on the 12th? In response to this, the opposition party criticized whether it had given guidelines. I gave you

[Lee Seung Hoon]
There was a saying that they went into the detention center and tried extreme prayer. What it is is that the president will transfer power, whether it is Han Dong-hoon or the ruling party. I said that I would retreat while talking to this effect. So, from the former Defense Minister Kim Yong-hyun's point of view, he had a feeling of desperation that it was all over now, but the president suddenly said he would fight back, impeachment or investigation. Lawyer Seok Dong-hyun said that he would fight with the people and insisted on the legitimacy of his martial law and that he did not even arrest him.E.

Since he made the claim in this way, former Minister Kim Yong-hyun said, "Yes, we can try it again, we can prevent the impeachment of the president and avoid the crime of rebellion," and gathered around the president of Yoon Suk Yeol. If you talk about it during the investigation process, it becomes perjury or destruction of evidence. But you conduct the command in perfect order through TV. There will be confusion in the investigation because such processes of reversing such statements on TV are coming.

[Anchor]
It can be said that former Defense Minister Kim Yong-hyun said that Roh Sang-won's order was my order, but former commander Roh Sang-won was called a Bodhisattva with a new look. And recently, there was Jeon Seong-bae, a shaman known as Geonjin Beopsa, Myung Tae-kyun, who was called a master of Jirisan Mountain, and Buddhist monks and prophets seem to be mentioned a lot recently.

[Kang Kang Ae]
I think this regime is stuck in a frame right now. Former commander Roh Sang-won said when the story first came out, "Do you mean there is a secret line in the military?" But now the hamburger restaurant is known to be about 1.4 kilometers away from the store where former commander Roh Sang-won is working, which means he took the initiative. It's because he asked active-duty soldiers to come closer to where they are.

There are no details about the fortune teller's work yet, and some say that they helped some female workers drive, but basically, the fact that they worked in the fortune teller's work is a little unfettered in the frame of such shamanism as the Buddhist monk, Myung Tae-kyun, and I personally think it would be better for the former commander Roh Sang-won to clarify that.

[Anchor]
In the midst of this, it is heard that there is a movement within the People's Power Party to ostracize or reject lawmakers who have previously expressed their support for impeachment. Some party members are even campaigning for a signature to demand disciplinary action from the party. How is the atmosphere?

[Kang Kang Ae]
Because it was decided to reject impeachment as a party theory, but in the case of impeachment, anonymous voting is required. When I voted anonymously, there were votes in favor of it, and of course, there were abstentions and invalid votes.Overall, Ma thinks about 23 people have left the party, but the problem is that former leader Han Dong-hoon said he was in favor of impeachment, which led to the fact that close lawmakers voted for it. And in some cases, some lawmakers have said in press conferences that they will support impeachment.

Regarding this, the disciplinary action in the party now is that the party will take disciplinary action because it violated the party's theory, but in reality, I don't think that's possible. Since it is an anonymous vote to find out, it is impossible to know unless you raise your hand, and from the perspective of the Korean people, is it right to find out about those who voted for it? Rather, there are parts that can have adverse effects on the party's support and the president's impeachment trial and investigation process. After all, in this regard, I think the lawmakers should feel the heavy weight of the badge that the people are watching, the areas where the conflict in the party is not being settled now.

[Anchor]
After the impeachment bill was passed, the recordings of loud voices coming and going from the People's Power Congress were released, and the full text of the group chat room was leaked, so wouldn't this actually be divided psychologically?

[Lee Seung Hoon]
Psychologically, it became Bundang. I'm not going to do Bundang. I'm not sure if I'll split up, but psychologically, I think I'm continuing to hold out in the party while I'm split up. The only thing I did for two and a half years as the ruling party was the ruling party leader and the president fighting. He fights with Lee Joon-seok, Kim Ki-hyun, and then kicks him out after making a representative, and Han Dong-hoon, then kicks him out again. As a result, it is the people's power that President Yoon Suk Yeol only used such a ridiculous strategy to reduce his supporters and failed to persuade President Yoon Suk Yeol to do the top politics again. So as a result, I believe that this civil war, martial law, came.

Even now, the people's power should reflect on their mistakes and those of President Yoon Suk Yeol, and how to stabilize the state administration, enhance external credibility, resolve economic problems, and remain in power to the opposition party even now, while companies are being hit hard by the exchange rate exceeding 1,450 won (approx. I'm dragging my feet with this logic alone, which doesn't help the people's power, nor does it help the president of Yoon Suk Yeol. It doesn't help the people either. I hope that we will get out of the river of impeachment as soon as possible, find reason, and conduct politics that meets the public's eye level.

[Anchor]
As the internal feud intensifies now, it will be very important for the next leadership and who will be the next chairman of the emergency committee, but it seems that opinions have been gathered for several days now, what is the main opinion?

[Kang Kang Ae]
Now, they are talking about gathering public opinions for each player, but as a result, it seems to be a difficult situation. Didn't Han Dong-hoon, chairman of the emergency committee, quit the Minister of Justice a year ago and became the emergency committee chairman? However, as a result of the collapse of the Han Dong-hoon system, I think that the parts that did not communicate well with senior members definitely played a role. If so, it seems that they want to make the emergency committee chairman a person who got along well with people smoothly on the floor.

However, if the early presidential election phase unfolds, there are areas where it is difficult for senior citizens to come out with ideas about the presidential election. Then, it seems clear that there should be a senior lawmaker who doesn't think much about the presidential election because there is this part where he suddenly quit as the emergency chairman and becomes a presidential candidate, and that someone who meets the public's eye level should come to this emergency rule.

However, in the process of Chairman Han Dong-hoon's involuntary exit, in a way, the pro-Yoon-gye lawmakers opposed the impeachment and sent Representative Han Dong-hoon out in the process. Then, there is something that the people actually thought should be impeached with more than 70% of the time. Then, not many of the seniors left have voiced about it. As a result, this part is a personality crisis, so we need to wait and see if we can properly save people.

[Anchor]
The Democratic Party's approval rating continues to rise while the people's power is suffering from internal strife. The approval rating has now outpaced the support of the people by the largest gap since the launch of the Yoon Suk Yeol government. According to Gallup Korea's survey of 1,000 voters for three days from the 17th, the gap between the two parties widened as the public's support for power was 24% and the Democratic Party was 48%. How did you like this part?

[Lee Seung Hoon]
First of all, the people knew that the Yoon Suk Yeol government was incompetent and irresponsible. Also, they are so bad at taking care of the economy and people's livelihoods. I knew everything about this. Because it was the Yoon Suk Yeol government that created a certain anarchy through martial law, support for President Yoon Suk Yeol itself was also plummeting. In addition, we cannot give trust to the power of the people who have been with President Yoon Suk Yeol and the power of the people who have not yet escaped the river of impeachment. So in the end, the government has no choice but to change, but if an early presidential election is held, it seems that the Democratic Party of Korea will take the victory no matter what the candidate comes out.

That's why I'm so immersed in Lee Jae-myung's individual that there's no need to continue to increase the state of national instability right now, and that's also harmful to the power of the people. Regarding the party leader and the emergency committee chairman, I don't think the person now is important. It's because first of all, do you agree or disagree with martial law? We already have to decide whether we are for or against impeachment and which person to choose. And until now, CEO Han Dong-hoon has blocked drafts by talking about the public's eye level, but now there is no one to stop it. They have to get hit by the draft. That's why I think early presidential elections are inevitable as to how to consider these things now. In addition, since we need to prepare for impeachment and investigation, I think it will be helpful for the people to quickly select an emergency committee chairman who can prepare for these things.

[Anchor]
Will there be a change in this gap if the emergency committee system begins in earnest?

[Kang Kang Ae]
First of all, some people seem to think that 24% of the people's power did not come out very low. Because when the impeachment of President Park Geun Hye was passed, it plummeted to about 12%. The fact that about 24% came out now is that conservative supporters are still gathering. But I don't think it's a victory of the spirit of the people to think that this is okay here, but how the party will run the state administration as a result. In the case of the Democratic Party of Korea, they are raising the issue of exercising the right to demand reconsideration of the bills, but there is not much that can be done with 108 seats from the perspective of the people.Ma still has to show stability as the ruling party.

Looking at the current situation, the opposition Democratic Party is actually united around Chairman Lee Jae-myung, but the ruling party is divided into quarters and I don't know who will come as the emergency committee chairman.Ma seems to think that this situation will continue in the future that there may be voices of dissatisfaction. I think this goes beyond the emergency committee chairman coming, and as a result, as if the party had said no to impeachment with the party's theory, how will the party go out now? I think it is necessary to organize the details of how to do the current stance.

[Anchor]
When asked who he thinks is the best president in the future, Lee Jae-myung, the leader of the Democratic Party of Korea, was 37%, and Han Dong-hoon, the former leader of the People's Power, and Daegu Mayor Hong Joon Pyo, were both 5%. How did you see this part?

[Lee Seung Hoon]
So, first of all, since there is no alternative, the people can choose the Democratic Party of Korea and representative Lee Jae-myung. In the case of Han Dong-hoon, his approval rating was about 10 percent.Ma's approval of impeachment due to this incident seems to have lost some of his supporters. And it seems that representative Han Dong-hoon has fallen out of the middle class a little because of the back-and-forth, saying that he is for or against impeachment and that he will just co-operate with Prime Minister Han Deok-soo. So CEO Han Dong-hoon has now lost his representative position and is in a position to start anew.

Also, in the case of the Hong Joon Pyo market, the Hong Joon Pyo market is just beginning. Until now, he has constantly criticized Representative Han Dong-hoon while opposing impeachment of President Yoon Suk Yeol because he wanted to be president. Alida said she lacked experience and put on a frame that lacked political experience, but now she has the same approval rating, almost the same, so she seems to have to compete with each other. Representative Han Dong-hoon took a break and thought that representative Han Dong-hoon's role could be needed when his approval rating fell further due to the failure of the people to cross the river of impeachment.

[Anchor]
Myung Tae-kyun's side continues to claim that Daegu Mayor Hong Joon Pyo asked Kim Jong-in, former chairman of the People's Power Emergency Response Committee, to be reinstated through Myung Tae-kyun. What do you think of this risk?

[Kang Kang Ae]
In the case of Myung Tae-kyun, he continues to say about the Hong Joon Pyo market that the Hong Joon Pyo market will not be safe when his golden phone is opened. There are now talks that the party's list may have been transferred from this person, who is a friend of Mayor Hong Joon Pyo's son, to Myung Tae-kyun, but Mayor Hong Joon Pyo does not seem to care at all about that. Rather, he is the only one who can respond to Trump or Xi Jinping.

And he's saying that he's the only one who has led the presidential election and the party in the impeachment process. And through social media, he also revealed himself that he had recently offered to be responsible prime minister to the president about once or twice. As a result, the investigation into Myung Tae-kyun is likely to serve as a very negative factor not only for the Hong Joon Pyo market but also for the power of the people as a whole. However, from the perspective of the Hong Joon Pyo market, it seems that he wants to block it first and continue with the image that it has nothing to do with it.

[Anchor]
I see. Let's stop here today. Kang Jeon-ae, vice chairman of the People's Power Labor Committee, and Lee Seung-hoon, chairman of the Democratic Party of Korea's Strategic Planning Committee. Thank you.