[YTN radio news fighting]
□ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (07:15-09:00)
□ Broadcast date and time: December 27, 2024 (Fri)
□ Host: Kim Woo-sung PD
□ Cast member: Kim Jae-won, Supreme Council member of the People's Power
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◆ PD Kim Woosung (hereinafter Kim Woosung): Does your head hurt? However, I will analyze it very coolly and deliciously and deliver it to you. I'm going to be with this person. Kim Jae-won came to the studio of the Supreme Council of the People's Power. Please come in.
◇ Kim Jae-won, Supreme Member of the People's Power (hereinafter referred to as Kim Jae-won): Hello.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: We should look at the internal situation of the people's power first, but we went to the emergency committee system. Kwon Young-se was nominated and confirmed by the national standing committee, and it doesn't sound good outside of Kwon Sung-dong-Kwon Young-se and the Kwon-kwon two-top system, but it is also called the "bilateral system." How do you evaluate it as stabilizing and going in the direction the party pursues?
◇ [Kim Jae-won] Our party was facing the worst situation anyway. The president produced by our party has been impeached, and the president did not finish his term because he was cited for impeachment, and before that, the president was arrested and judicialized after his term, depriving him of respect for the presidency, so the former presidents produced by our party are not doing their part. In order to solve the party's worst difficulties in this situation, Kwon Young-se is considered to be the most suitable person to clean up the inside and reorganize the battle line, and his expectations seem to be that he will play a sufficient role internally.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: After all, if you look at the current state of people's power, it's a crisis, and we've chosen the best people to break through that crisis.It is, but there are many different evaluations. It's an expression, but there are also evaluations that it is not possible to distance yourself from the president of Yoon Suk Yeol, who triggered the crisis by talking about "road-friendly." How do you see it?
◇ Kim Jae-won: But what would be close and far from the president now? It's not that much of a situation right now, and the party's foundation is collapsing, so it's overwhelming to crack down, clean up, and reorganize the battle lines in this situation. We are not in a situation where we want to reform the party and even a new aspect of the party. First of all, the emergency committee itself is an emergency situation. That's why I think I'm the most suitable person as the emergency committee chairman.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: Now, we have to break through the crisis and focus on the crisis, but we can't even talk about the new side of the party. He said this. In fact, the confrontation between the ruling and opposition parties is sharper than before the resolution of the emergency martial law or the impeachment motion. Originally, it was a tight situation, but when acting President Han Deok-soo virtually put the appointment of a constitutional judge on hold, he said, "Agreement between the ruling and opposition parties," but I think I really need to ask the best Kim Jae-won. Can we reach an agreement? Or is there a possibility that it will work?
◇ Kim Jae-won: However, the Democratic Party of Korea is now struggling with everything and exercising its power in the National Assembly, starting with the impeachment of the prosecutor and the impeachment of the president of the Korea Communications Standards Commission. As a result, they are organizing everything at their disposal without even consulting, let alone agreeing. It was agreed that the constitutional judge issue was originally negotiated between the ruling and opposition parties to recommend three constitutional judges, and that the ruling party and the president appoint the president of the Constitutional Court, so it was agreed to hand over the president of the Constitutional Court to the power of the people. But now, he threw it away like a tribute and said he would appoint everything at his disposal, so he voted to confirm the constitutional judge in the absence of the members of the Korean people's power, and now sent three people out under the name of election of the National Assembly. This is a no-no. Therefore, the basic principle of the Constitutional Court is recognized by the Presidential National Assembly and the Supreme Court, and now even such a principle is abandoned, so I think it is the minimum demand from the acting president.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: The consensus between the ruling and opposition parties can actually be a little vague and big from the people's point of view. For example, as you just said, the head of the Constitutional Court. Even if Kim Dae-sik came out last time, let's do it one by one from the ruling party and the opposition party, and let's agree on the other and post it. How should I say this? There are amendments. What kind of things are possible?
◇ Kim Jae-won: That's the principle. The principle was destroyed by the force of numbers, and the Democratic Party deliberately did not organize the Constitutional Court to continue the impeachment of President Lee Jin-sook. So even now, the Democratic Party of Korea should recommend a constitutional judge by agreement between the ruling and opposition parties, and they are saying that they will impeach the acting president because they have no intention of recommending it.
◆ [Kim Woosung] Okay. In any case, the Democratic Party of Korea is in a position such as "Isn't it going to the eye patch that the ruling and opposition parties have already agreed on?" and "Isn't it just a simple appointment process?" However, the ball has now been handed over by agreement again. We'll talk about this later. In the vote, four lawmakers, Cho Kyung-tae, Kim Ye-ji, Kim Sang-wook, and Han Ji-ah, the People's Power, also participated in the vote to appoint constitutional judges. How is it being talked about within the party?
◇ Kim Jae-won: But I don't think it's a particularly strange situation because they've reached today by agreeing with former representative Han Dong-hoon since the martial law was lifted before the impeachment prosecution.
◆ [Kim Woosung] I knew it. Are you looking at it like this?
◇ Kim Jae-won: Because they've done that.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: We said in the past that after the impeachment was passed, the atmosphere within the party was rough as to who voted for it. What about these four people's actions or these four people?
◇ Kim Jae-won: There's no such thing as disciplinary action for now because we're in a hurry to sort out the inside. However, it is quite difficult to overcome this difficulty without going to a single conservative battalion. In the meantime, when the ruling party's seats, which are only 108 seats, fell to less than 100, the constitutional barrier collapsed, the requirements for impeachment of the president collapsed, and the re-decision on the right to veto legislation collapsed. I was very worried about the role of the party that they would bring if they joined the ruling party as a minority, but I think there will be some judgment within the party about the continued role after the impeachment of the president.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes. There is a lot of news as Defense Minister Kim Yong-hyun's lawyer talked yesterday, and former Defense Minister Kim Yong-hyun drafted the decree and President Yoon Suk Yeol finally reviewed the curfew. There are many interpretations of this. How do you see the interpretation that "the decree was finally reviewed by the president" and that "this is all prepared by former Minister Kim Yong-hyun?"
◇ [Kim Jae-won] That's both right. And former Minister Kim Yong-hyun reported to the president that he wrote the martial law decree, and the president ordered the general public to delete it because the curfew was excessive.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, in the decree, the prohibition of political activities is a little unconstitutional, and because of these parts, the Constitutional Court and the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit are in a position to bring the original draft decree. The investigative agency is.
◇ Kim Jae-won: I don't know anything about that. Anyway, former Minister Kim Yong-hyun continues to make these claims, and there is no particular circumstance to be found on that point.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: And the level of criticism against acting president Han Deok-soo is rising in the opposition party, which is the story of Rep. Park Jie-won of the Democratic Party of Korea. In fact, he is also known to be close to acting Han Deok-soo. He even used the expression "abandoning friendship for the country." Acting Han Deok-soo's wife was also immersed in shamanism and is spreading by saying that she is very close to First Lady Kim Gun-hee and President Park Yoon Suk Yeol. Of course, there is no exact confirmation. How do you see it?
◇ Kim Jae-won: Isn't that a one-sided argument? We can't really know the actual facts. I think the media is making it by adding more weight to the groundless claims and little by little, what's the point? Now. Even Rep. Park Jie-won said on the 19th that the president had already been impeached and suspended, and the prime minister was acting as the president, and he met a businessman and asked him to take over as the prime minister. Since when did the businessman appoint the prime minister of the nation's cabinet? It's a ridiculous story. Who is pushing for the national cabinet now, who is appointing Park Ji-won, and how can he make the national cabinet prime minister? While talking about this absurdity, he refused. I think it was nothing more than a conversation between each other in the love room. Isn't it the same? I'm doing magic, but I don't even know what the hell it means.
◆ [Kim Woosung] Yes. What should I say during the time of Prime Minister Han Deok-soo? Even when there were issues related to the candidate's career, he/she said, "During the candidate's public life, his/her spouse's interest in Myeong-Rihak never affected public decision-making." The story is getting bigger and bigger, and the reason for this is that the related investigations such as former intelligence commander Roh Sang-won are connected. President Yoon Suk Yeol has not responded to the investigation, and the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit has issued the third and final summons notice, will it come out? I don't know exactly about this. Because Seok Dong-hyun said, "I'll do it procedurally," what does it mean?
◇ Kim Jae-won: I still wonder if the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit has the right to investigate the president. Because the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit does not have the right to investigate the crime of rebellion. And the president can't prosecute anything but rebellion or foreign exchange. Then, the president should be investigated for the crime of rebellion, but the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit does not have the right to investigate the crime of rebellion. At the same time, he seems to be in a position to investigate the rebellion as a related case of abuse of authority, but the president is not in a situation where he will be investigated for abuse of authority. So, first of all, we need to make a clear explanation on why we are going to investigate. Second, I think there are probably many things that the president does not agree on the direction that the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit will investigate. If you are investigated by the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, you will have to go to the prosecution and conduct another supplementary investigation before prosecution. In fact, the prosecution does not have the right to investigate rebellion. Shouldn't we tell them clearly about this?
◆ Kim Woo-sung: In fact, the opposition party is also in the position that let's quickly pass the special prosecution and investigate.
◇ Kim Jae-won: But the appointment of a special prosecutor itself would be a situation that is trying to prevent the investigation now. So, the investigative agency competitively said that they would investigate this part and even requested a warrant, but I don't know if it's right. If you ask for an arrest warrant, wouldn't the court take this into account? I think it's a little hard for me to respond to the investigation until I have a clear explanation for the procedural legality of him. Basically, because this is the situation, the president seems to be in a position to plead and explain through the impeachment process of the Constitutional Court.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, former Supreme Council member Kim is also a lawyer. You've been in the prosecution for a while, so you're more aware of this situation. Today is known to be the first day to prepare for the impeachment trial of the Constitutional Court, but you're not present.
◇ [Kim Jae-won] And also on this part. The Constitutional Court must respect the procedure, no matter how urgent it is. But it wasn't served. Simply put, the notice of the trial date or the preparation date for subpoena must be submitted by the president of Yoon Suk Yeol or his attorney. However, even if there is no notice of the due date of the lawsuit after the first receipt, it can be said that it was received by so-called dispatch, but the first one has not been served yet. Then, according to the Constitutional Court Act, this is supposed to be under the Civil Procedure Act, and the Civil Procedure Act should clearly serve the trial documents. If it is not served, the first method is to have an executive officer serve it.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: But I can't go because I'm blocked by the security service.
◇ [Kim Jae-won] No, it's not the time to talk about that. Then you have to do the service of the notice. There's a way. I think it's probably two months, not two weeks. The Civil Procedure Act requires legal procedures, no matter how urgent they are. My judgment has not been served, but I told the person involved in the case to come out, so I understand, so if I say I'll proceed with the trial, I'll see that the trial process is not legal. CEO Lee Jae-myung was also not served, so he said he would deliver the notice because it was a criminal procedure, but he ordered an executive officer to deliver it. That means it's the same. But I don't know if it's a world where you can do these procedures at your disposal these days, but I think it'll be a problem as a result.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: If it's a consequential issue, the Constitutional Court...
◇ Kim Jae-won: It's going to be illegal in the future.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: Do you think that the decision of the Constitutional Court may be reversed or not accepted?
◇ [Kim Jae-won] There are nine judges. I don't think this will be solved easily if any of the judges raise the issue. I understand that it's urgent. Representative Lee Jae-myung's trial is also ticking, so let's quickly proceed with the impeachment trial of President Yoon Suk Yeol anyway. It's a nationally chaotic thing. However, legally, this condition is predicted, and all of them have legal measures for the delivery procedure against the other party. However, I doubt that the legal procedure can be changed just because the judges gather and regard it as being served.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: It was the same when Rep. Cheon Ha-ram of the New Reform Party appeared on our program, and the opposition party criticized that it was intentional to drag time by using the expression "beop-kkkurae", but you're asking Kim Jae-won's position to follow the set procedures as much as possible, right?
◇ [Kim Jae-won] Right. And the president may not be prepared at all right now. Then, it may be a situation where you can't respond to the preparation procedure itself, and if the preparation procedure doesn't come out from one side, you have to do the preparation procedure again. So I wonder if this procedure is going to work properly.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: It's pointed out that the procedure itself is not working properly. We will also tell you about the related position through opposition lawmakers. The news is becoming a hot topic as the Supreme Council member suddenly talks about the Hong Joon Pyo market. Of course, it would be more destructive when the impeachment trial was cited and the early presidential election became, but you picked him as the most likely person.
◇ Kim Jae-won: From our party's point of view, the foundation of the conservative camp is in a state of collapse. If an early presidential election takes place in this situation, our party will have to be judged by the voters. But the Democratic Party has already been decided. Representative Lee Jae-myung. However, in fact, the approval ratings of the presidential candidates are still low, so I don't think we're in a situation where we can hang on to one or two people right now. Mayor Oh Se-hoon, Governor Kim Tae-heum, and Mayor Park Hyung-joon, including Mayor of Hong Joon Pyo, are each playing their role as the head of the metropolitan government, but I think they should all come out of a position devoted to the party and the country. So in the case of Mayor Oh Se-hoon, I think it's a little lukewarm. in many ways However, now is not the time to do that, and if the party doesn't work out, even if these people are summoned or requisitioned, we should mobilize all available resources to compete in good faith and make them candidates for our party. In that process, Mayor Hong Joon Pyo is no doubt a very strong candidate now.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: Is it because you tried once before?
◇ Kim Jae-won: Not only that, but he's also sending out a lot of insightful messages in his own way, and he's sending a lot of messages so that this situation can be easily and quickly sorted out to the people. However, in addition to Mayor Hong Joon Pyo, Mayor Oh Se-hoon, Governor Kim Tae-heum, Mayor Park Hyung-joon and
◆ Kim Woo-sung: Former CEO Han Dong-hoon is also included in the survey list.
◇ Kim Jae-won: If all of these former lawmakers Won Hee-ryong come forward, I think it is enough to deal with Lee Jae-myung.
◆ [Kim Woo-sung] Yes, I have to ask you more about this. In the opposition camp, it would be more destructive if it were combined with people like Yoo Seung Min. There is also an analysis like this, but what position are you in for a short time?
◇ Kim Jae-won: Representative Yoo Seung Min should also come out. He'll come out. So we need to make our party's candidate through competition within the party.
◆ [Kim Woosung] Okay. We have about 40 seconds left. As Myung Tae-kyun's cell phone is being investigated, new news about the Hong Joon Pyo market is coming out yesterday, and Mayor Oh Se-hoon is also doing the same. In this case, it's a little...
◇ [Kim Jae-won] But in most cases, what we're talking about now is kind of gossip or interest, and I don't think there's anything that applies to legal matters. It's just an activity abandoned by a political con artist named Myung Tae-kyun. It's not a legal problem or something that can damage trust to voters, and I think it's just an act that makes Myung Tae-kyun's criminal behavior more clear.
◆ [Kim Woosung] Yes. He summarized his position like this, saying that it is limited to Myung Tae-kyun's criminal acts. That's all for today. Thank you.
◇ [Kim Jae-won] Thank you.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, Kim Jae-won was the supreme council member of the nation's power.
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