[News fighting] Jung Sung-guk, "Many party members agree on the direction of Han Dong-hoon."

[YTN Radio News Fighting Bae Seunghee]
□ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (07:15 - 09:00)
□ Broadcasting date and time: October 10, 2024 (Thursday)
□ Host: Attorney Bae Seung-hee
□ Starter: Jung Sung-guk, Member of the People's Power,

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◆ Attorney Bae Seung-hee (hereinafter referred to as Bae Seung-hee): I'm Bae Seung-hee from News Fighting. It's part two. Han Dong-hoon, the representative of the People's Power, mentioned that Kim Gun-hee should refrain from public activities. This is the first time that a representative has mentioned Kim's policy of action. In this regard, we will talk with Representative Jeong Seong-guk, who is considered one of the first recruiting talents of Han Dong-hoon. Hello. I heard you went to Busan yesterday.

◇Jung Sung-guk, member of the People's Power (hereinafter referred to as Jung Sung-guk): Yesterday, there was a campaign in front of Busan National University for the election of the head of Geumjeong-gu, and I went there with CEO Han Dong-hoon.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: What's the reaction?

◇Jung Sung-guk: It's hot when CEO Han Dong-hoon goes. It's hot, but Busan's public sentiment is what CEO Lee Han Dong-hoon said, "When I go to Ganghwa in Incheon, I feel a little reassuring, and when I go to Busan, it's a good response, but Busan's public sentiment cannot be relieved like this because there are others who say, "Is this okay?" There are good reactions to our advantage, but I think you have the idea of paying attention to it like this.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see. Didn't Han Dong-hoon request a solo meeting with President Yoon? It is said that October 16th will take place after the election. You predicted this.

◇Jeong Seong-guk: I told you that another broadcaster might go this way last time, but the reason I said that is because the current situation is that we have already requested a private meeting and now we accept it, but the president will have no choice but to meet representative Han in the end. Also, isn't there a situation where various problems such as female risk continue to arise? So, I don't think the president's office is a very burdensome situation if it goes in a natural way, saying, "How can the president leave these parts alone?"

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. You mentioned it, ma'am. CEO Han Dong-hoon said, "I agree that Mrs. Kim Gun-hee should refrain from activities in Busan yesterday. That's what I said. This is a story from a tour of Southeast Asia. How should I take this?

◇Jeong Seong-guk: I think there's a story like this now. So isn't there some talk that you need to take some action right now? There are people who apologize here and there, but there are people who are asking this question right now. There are even talks about whether this apology alone is enough, so if we show a more active side here, what would it be? It is necessary to show some response to the public by showing a little restraint in the woman's actions. So, I think I was thinking that if I came out a little more than just apologizing, the sincerity would be accepted and it would help to break this problem a little bit.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: You can't just apologize, but you have to control yourself more.

◇ Jeong Seong-guk: I heard that you need to make some effort, but I think you sympathized.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. But as you said, we need more. I need more than an apple. Shin Ji-ho, the head of the Strategic Planning Department. He said that the burden on the party will be reduced only when the prosecution prosecutes Kim. What does this mean?

◇Jeong Seong-guk: It's almost time for the prosecution to announce the Deutsche Motors stock price manipulation case, but I think President Shin Ji-ho said that because he was worried about the public's concerns and criticism that would arise if it goes without charges. We can't judge whether we should prosecute or not. What we are clear is that even though the Democratic Party calls it prosecution engineering, there is a state agency called prosecution, and the agency prosecutes it and leaves it to it. As it comes out, we have to judge and evaluate it, and I have to do something about the areas that the prosecution has to do. I don't want to say that I won't do it.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: However, as the party leader directly mentioned Kim Gun-hee, he is protesting again, saying that the conflict between the party and the president of Yoon Suk Yeol is highlighted. How about this point within the party?

◇ Jeong Seong-guk: Then what is the role of the party? Isn't it the party's role to properly convey the public sentiment that the presidential office cannot accept and to speak without addition or subtraction? But CEO Han Dong-hoon has a by-election now, so he goes to the site a lot. I also went to Ganghwa Busan and Gokseong. I listen to the public opinion directly. It's not just people who want to take pictures. That's why I take it that way.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. The party's approval rating is now on the decline. I can see it, but what do you think is the cause? Party

◇Jeong Seong-guk: I think the time has passed when representative Lee Jae-myung's judicial risk affects public opinion. Don't you think it's already reflected and let's wait and see the results? The results are coming out in November, so let's take a look at the results of the first trial. It's this kind of public opinion. No matter how much the Korean people highlight Lee Jae-myung's risk now, it doesn't seem to be reflected in public opinion. Then, from the point of view of the people now, the president's approval rating is low, and the problem of the number of medical schools is the biggest. That's not being resolved right now, so isn't there another part like the woman's risk? Some aspects of the conflict between CEO Han Dong-hoon and the president have surfaced a lot. As a result, we have a lot of bad news. But what else happened here? Kim Dae-nam's case, that is, the images of a person in the presidential office attacking representative Han. What else can't happen, especially, has the main character appeared here this time? A person named Myung Tae-kyun appeared. So, in terms of the power of our people, there are some very puzzling things happening. So public opinion can't get better.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Looking at this, I heard that the party's approval rating is on the decline again because of the presidential office's reasons, is there no cause for the party?

◇Jung Sung-guk: CEO Han Dong-hoon is working hard and trying to broadcast it, but I think it's also true that we have to produce results in certain parts that we acknowledge. So, even though the president has the initiative, However, even so, it cannot be evaluated as a representative just because the representative only tries. CEO Han Dong-hoon also has the burden of that, and I will tell you that he really thinks a lot and tries hard to achieve such results.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. As you said, you talked about your party's approval rating, but haven't you been to Busan for the by-election? However, isn't it better for President Yoon Suk Yeol and Representative Han Dong-hoon to meet as soon as possible since they say that the private meeting will take place after the by-election on October 16th?

◇ Jeong Seong-guk: You can say that. I think so too. It's nice to meet you as soon as possible, but I think there's something like this right now. It can be seen that the by-election has a decisive impact on the by-election just because the president and representative Han Dong-hoon, who have some influence, meet, but in the current situation, bad news is underway. Since these bombshell comments by Myung Tae Gyun are making this issue big, we need to look at the time that goes by for a few more days. Whether it's from the party or the presidential office, it's hard to meet them again in 3 days. So, looking at the past few days, I think the CEO decided that we can compete with each other to some extent. Then, as the president meets after the by-election, the parts that were focused on the by-election at that time are sorted out, and the time to resolve the difficult issues candidly with the president is right before the by-election.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see. However, representative Han Dong-hoon also expressed his position on First Lady Kim Gun-hee, but before that, there was a meeting of lawmakers and met with outsiders. Rep. Yoon Sang-hyun is even evaluating this as "Is he working on allieship before the by-election?" "This is not a silent meeting," but is Han really taking a full-fledged independent step? Set an angle with the president?

◇ Jeong Seong-guk: I'm the one who went to that meeting. Also, when there were 90 chairmen of the outside party cooperation committee, I was there a lot and had lunch with them.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. What do you think?

◇ Jeong Seong-guk: I don't think so. So, to explain it a little more accurately now, the meeting of 20 people who are close to us has already been scheduled for September 23rd. So I want to clarify that. But it's a subtle time like this, so we can't postpone the meeting in two months, right? It's a huge deal to set a day for 20 lawmakers to gather. There is a political interpretation that subtly overlaps with that, but I would like to tell you that it actually happened, and there were many requests for us to push that forward as much as we can. We thought about November, but a lot of requests are coming in, so you can think of it as being pulled quickly.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I heard that one of the 20 people's meetings said that the next time these 20 people gather, let's gather as 50 people.

◇Jeong Seong-guk: I heard it myself, but to accurately describe his writing, I didn't use the expression 50 people. The next time I come, I think it would be better if one more person from here came along. Then, it eventually becomes 40 people. It's going to be 40 to 50 people, but that's how I expressed it.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: And doesn't that mean let's go beyond social gatherings and build a close relationship?

◇Jeong Seong-guk: I think we can interpret it like this. Personally, there are people who ignore who is next to Han Dong-hoon because there are no people around him. I've also heard that some people can even propose a bill. I'm a bit disappointed when I hear those comments. I've said this before. So, the CEO doesn't talk about these things too much. So it's right for us to have a natural meeting. If you don't do it too much with this, what else will the other person talk about? I don't think it's politics to see who's next to Han Dong-hoon. Isn't it okay to naturally show that there are people with CEO Han Dong-hoon? Naturally,

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Isn't it natural to show close relationships?

◇Jeong Seong-guk: I don't think this is bad because it came out naturally.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: It's okay to have 40 close relationships

◇Jeong Seong-guk: It doesn't mean you have a desire to be called out, but I think this is how it is. When I talk to the lawmakers individually, there are many people who sympathize with Mr. Han's direction. It's just that I can't express it in the party.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Why can't you express it?

◇Jeong Seong-guk: I understand that the conflict between the president and Han is going on too much, so it's burdensome for people to stand on any side here.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Okay. There are more people in the party who follow representative Han Dong-hoon.

◇ Jeong Seong-guk: They sympathize with the direction.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I'll see you again. Right now in the Democratic Party. However, despite the fact that there are four people who have left the independent counsel law, I will revise the National Assembly rules and make it a permanent independent counsel. And they are saying that they will exclude the recommendation of the ruling party. What do you think? What is the response of the people's power?

◇ Jung Sung-guk: I honestly couldn't think of that while watching that. I couldn't think of a permanent special prosecutor. A permanent special prosecutor cannot veto it. Since it's already done, we can come in like that again. Then we have to respond. The problem is that out of the seven members recommended by the National Assembly, four are recommended by the National Assembly, but the basic is two each. But aren't you saying you're going to change two members of the ruling party? If the rules change, I think the Cho Kuk Innovation Party or the Progressive Party will go like this. If this happens, we'll have a justification. The purpose of the law should be unilaterally made as an inheritance special prosecutor by agreement between the ruling and opposition parties, but the opposition party should appeal to the people because it will monopolize the composition of the special prosecutor, such as the Kim Gun-hee Act and the Coporal Chae Special Prosecutor Act. It is an unfair special prosecutor.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: If the rules are revised, the Democratic Party has no choice but to do it because it is so majority.

◇ Jeong Seong-guk: I don't think that can be stopped. At that time, an appeal must now be made, and I think the people will accept that part as I announce the injustice. First of all, to conduct an independent investigation, the public's response to Representative Han Dong-hoon's independent counsel law, a third-party independent investigation law, is that the public also wants to conduct a fair independent investigation. I think the Democratic Party should also answer in that regard.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. And isn't there Myung Tae-kyun who is suspected of intervening in the nomination? Now CEO Cho Kuk is also criticizing that he is the second Choi Soon-sil. How do you stop this offensive?

◇Jung Sung-guk: When I hear what Myung Tae-kyun is saying these days, It's too much for me.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: He said he did it all.

◇Jeong Seong-guk: But how did I not know that until now when there was such a person in Korea?

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I know. But

◇ Jeong Seong-guk: If you listen to it, it's all coming out recently. I met with Mayor Oh Se-hoon and Minister Won Hee-ryong. Rep. Na Kyung-won also met. The president frequently met and exchanged. What happens when I say something? But I think there are definitely a lot of things like this that are bluster. However, it may not be 100% bluster. So, you can't adapt everything by lying, right? And if you listen to lawmaker Lee Joon-seok and others, it's wrong, but the fact that Myung Tae-kyun played a role means everything now. And if you listen to the people who are talking about the influence of pollack now, there are people who say that there was an influence that could not be said to be such a charlatan.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Then what should I do with this?

◇ Jeong Seong-guk: So we're watching a little bit now. But it's hard for the party to respond. This person is representing Han Dong-hoon. Oh, ∀.It has nothing to do with it. I asked the CEO directly with Han Dong-hoon. The CEO said he had nothing to do with Myung Tae-kyun. Doesn't that mean that Han Dong-hoon doesn't come out in "Myeongtae bacillus"? Then the representative of the party is Han Dong-hoon. Then, I think it's a little faster to respond to something from our party's point of view. I'm concerned and what he says is not credible. I can say not to be swayed by his words, but I think we need to look at his words and see how the president's office responds. The president's office should say something. .

◆ Bae Seung-hee: It means we didn't meet.

◇Jeong Seong-guk: That's what Rep. Lee Joon-seok is saying now, so we have to wait and see.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Because he is not directly related to CEO Han Dong-hoon

◇Jeong Seong-guk: Yes, I'm confident. I'm confident about that.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: It's a little too much for the party to respond

◇ Jeong Seong-guk: Let's talk in principle. Let's not be swayed by the words. Not all of them are true.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Isn't CEO Han Dong-hoon now a former administrator of Kim Dae-nam? The owner of the attack on him has now defected from the party, and the standing auditor has now resigned, but he has talked about legal measures beyond the inspection.

◇ Jeong Seong-guk: That's a bit tough.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: What does legal action mean?

◇ Jeong Seong-guk: You're making a complaint. Isn't it completely defamatory in a way? That part is also defamatory, and the way he did it, he really impersonated someone. If she didn't, wouldn't she have applied and clearly damaged it? That's why we're reviewing it legally. There are people who say this about that. How will this party's discipline be if you leave someone who says that much and shakes that much when you say you're going to work harder? You have to catch what you're going to catch.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: But again, Kim Dae-nam, CEO Han Dong-hoon, knelt on Kim Gun-hee. There was a comment like this.

◇ Jeong Seong-guk: I can't admit it at all.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Isn't it strange that CEO Han Dong-hoon knelt down when he said the same thing, but he admitted the rest and accused it?

◇Jeong Seong-guk: I think like this. If you think about the way representative Han Dong-hoon has been with the president so far. When you asked him to resign right away when he was the emergency committee chairman, the representative confidently did it. I will not resign. I will go all the way to the end of the emergency committee chairman. At that time, even when such a shocking incident occurred, CEO Han clearly expressed his opinion. I don't want the president to resign. Don't you say that CEO Han Dong-hoon respects the president and cherishes his personal interests with the president, but his private life in that big position is not important? But think about that. So, representative Han kneels down to a certain person to avoid that moment. I think the CEO didn't do that either, but I don't think I would have ever done that either.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: What I'm saying is that what this person says is not credible, and then I'm asking you this question that even the owner of the attack is not reliable.

◇Jeong Seong-guk: You can say that, but I think that's a slightly different nuance. So, the first part comes out so naturally, and the expression about CEO Han Dong-hoon is a bit stimulating.

◆Bae Seung-hee: What I want to ask you more is that the meaning of this legal action is that CEO Han Dong-hoon will find the person who ordered the attack on the owner of the attack, right? As a result,

◇ Jeong Seong-guk: You don't want to find out who bought it.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Then it seems to be speculated that he is in the presidential office, but can't this be interpreted as a legal measure to set an angle in the presidential office?

◇Jeong Seong-guk: Can't you see it like this? It's not the president or the first lady who has the previous loyalty of the president, but there may be some people who have a little over-loyalty underneath it. I'm just trying to point it out because you might think that those people might have done it.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Okay. We'll have to watch this again. Representative Lee Jae-myung insisted yesterday that it is natural to let him quit if he can't stand it. You have to pull it out even in the middle of it. In fact, he said that he made a statement that meant impeachment, but he did not mention impeachment again. How do you see it? This is

◇ Jeong Seong-guk: What did you think, anchor? CEO Han Dong-hoon said that yesterday. If most people accept it like that, it's right. You said you don't have to do that in a rambling way, but I think so, too. Anyone could hear it, implying impeachment. I just didn't use the word impeachment.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: He hinted at impeachment and just passed the Special Prosecutor's Law on Kim Gun-hee. How can these situations be politically influenced by the power of the people?
◇State: I think so. Now that there is an opportunity to conduct a parliamentary audit, there is an opportunity to make issues that can explode various things, and Kim Dae-nam and Myung Tae-kyun, which are bad news for the people's power, are exploding, and the relationship between representative Han Dong-hoon and the president continues to deteriorate, so if we judge that there is a high possibility that some judgment or negative public opinion about this administration will grow by November, won't the first trial result of representative Lee Jae-myung's judicial risk come out? The Democratic Party of Korea does not have a card to exclude Lee Jae-myung's judicial risks now, saying why it can't be impeached at a decisive moment while creating an issue that can reverse it at once when all that is focused on that direction. Now that we have entered the first trial, the only way to prevent that is actually to push the presidential election in an extreme way. So I hope you don't even imagine that right now.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: There is a by-election now. Let's hear briefly about the meaning of the election of the superintendent of education.

◇Jeong Seong-guk: We can't do anything about the election of the superintendent of education in Seoul because we can't intervene in the political world, but if I have my intention as an educator, I've met Cho Hee-yeon often when I was the superintendent of education. But he didn't do everything 100% wrong. But the big problem is that there was a lot of biased education. There was a lot of experimental education, which was followed by biased education and then parts about academic decline. Since Seoul education has been shaken a lot for 10 years and there has been a lot of criticism, I think it is necessary for a new person to appear and reflect our parents' expectations for a new education policy.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see. As expected, it was a neat arrangement. I see. I asked a lot of difficult questions today, but thank you for answering them well. So far, I've been with Jung Sung-guk, a member of the People's Power. Thank you.

◇Jeong Seong-guk: Yes, thank you.