[YTN Radio News Fighting Bae Seunghee]
□ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (07:15 - 09:00)
□ Broadcast date and time: October 11, 2024 (Fri)
□ Host: Attorney Bae Seung-hee
□ Cast: Kim Jae-won, Supreme Council Member of the People's Power
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◆ Attorney Bae Seung-hee (hereinafter referred to as Bae Seung-hee): I'm Bae Seung-hee from News Fighting. It begins Friday with a second part of the political outlier. Kim Jae-won, the supreme council member, is here. Hello These days, hot insider Kim Jaewon is here. You're busy, aren't you?
◇ Kim Jae-won, member of the Supreme Council on People's Power (hereinafter referred to as Kim Jae-won): It's because of a special situation.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: I think we need to look at the special situation. Yesterday, CEO Han Dong-hoon said, "The prosecution should produce results that the public can understand about Kim's stock price manipulation case." After making this statement, pro-Yoon-gye lawmakers posted a message. How did you see it?
◇Kim Jae-won: I don't know what other people are in. This is because CEO Han Dong-hoon has lived as a prosecutor until now and has joined as a prosecutor. As a prosecutor and the Minister of Justice, everything was now at the scene of the investigation and the realization of judicial justice, and I think it's possible for politicians to say this. However, since Minister Han Dong-hoon has played a role as a prosecutor or legal professional, he knows well how the investigation should proceed and how to draw its conclusion. No matter how external pressure there is, the investigation must be concluded strictly according to laws and principles, and not only the investigation but also the trial must go like that. When it fell, there was this past logic of people's trials and public opinion trials and witch hunts that we often saw. It must be strictly dealt with and investigated without sanctuary no matter how much criticized or how much public support it has. Or the opposite. So, even if there are various controversies, suspicions, and criticisms, the prosecution system is necessary for the prosecution, which is a judicial or quasi-judicial institution, to investigate in accordance with laws and principles and to determine whether to indict Kim Gun-hee. If you don't want to do that, you don't need the inspection system itself. Because the police can investigate and prosecute, but the fact that the prosecution office, which is a prosecution agency, has a prosecution system itself means that even if an investigative agency investigates, it should be judged according to laws and principles when determining whether to prosecute. So I think CEO Han Dong-hoon has taken an excessive political interpretation or political approach on this part. And if the prosecution makes a decision by being swept away by political criticism or public opinion, there will be a huge problem, and if the fundamentals of investigating according to laws and principles are shaken, everything goes like this.
Kim Jae-won "Han Dong-hoon, Kim's excessive political approach...Conservative split second"
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. However, former representative Yoo Seung Min and former lawmaker Kim Woong are the ones who crushed the stock price manipulation case of First Lady Kim Gun-hee. It is out of fluid. They are attacking who the Minister of Justice has been for the past two years.
◇Kim Jae-won: They actually attack from a completely different side, and their stories are just what they say, but the content is completely different. But anyway, by throwing a topic like this, I can guess what CEO Han Dong-hoon thinks. For example, even if the prosecution says the same thing, if it tells the public to make an explanation so that they can understand whatever decision they make, convince the people, explain the people's decision, and the prosecution's decision so that the people can understand it, I think that's a little different when the prosecution asks them to draw a conclusion that the people understand. This kind of approach, if it continues, could eventually be the beginning of the conservative divide, which would again touch the most painful scars of this conservative divide we've had in the past.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Are you talking about impeachment?
◇Kim Jae-won: Anyway, we don't have to keep being dragged into a place that can be the beginning of such a conservative division. So now I think that we should move a little bit of political interpretation away from this justice system.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: It could be the beginning of impeachment. Are you talking about this?
◇ Kim Jae-won: If we keep approaching like this, we have to rob someone. We are different from each other, and the conservative forces are divided as if we were at war with each other, and in the end, that's what happened in the extreme. So now, I don't think that's what's happening yet, but we have to be very wary of such conservative divisive ways of thinking and approaching that we don't care about ourselves and that we're bad over there.
Kim Jae-won "Han Dong-hoon related to Kim
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. Not long ago, four votes were cast for Kim Gun-hee's re-voting of the independent counsel law, right? The close circle said, "We're not right now," but he's the first member of the National Assembly to recruit Jung Sung-guk. Rep. Jung Sung-guk is... There are many lawmakers who sympathize with Han Dong-hoon's direction, but there are many so-called "shai-friendly" who cannot express it. By saying this, it could be more than four votes if the Special Prosecutor Act returns in the future. That's what I said.
◇ Kim Jae-won: There's a possibility either way. But I want you to judge more rationally, considering that the consequences of the conservative division of the extremes of that idea remain. I think it's time for the lawmakers who have the right to decide to think more about the outcome of the unfortunate conservative division, which we value historical experience very much.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Do you think you have a lot of shy friends?
◇Kim Jae-won: No, I can't tell if there are a lot of people who are close to Shy and there are fewer. And it's not like they're going to split the conservatives, it's not like that for me, and all of this is that we're clean and we're bad over there. Because I think it's better to think that this will solve the problem of the conservative camp as a whole, but I don't think it's appropriate to distinguish between this side and the other side. I think it's a good thing to have more so-called close people. The party can unite only when the party leader demonstrates leadership so that he can sympathize with and follow the direction of the party leader, and there are more lawmakers like that. But it's not that anymore, I'm just saying it because I'm afraid it's going to go in a divisive direction.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Then I hope CEO Han Dong-hoon refrains from Kim Gun-hee's activities. That's what I said. Rep. Kwon Sung-dong is in the position that he should have asked for such a thing behind closed doors. Is CEO Han Dong-hoon's direction right here, too?
◇Kim Jae-won: But I don't want to evaluate that properly. There may be personal opinions of representative Han Dong-hoon, but in this regard, the presidential staff must be thinking a lot about Kim Gun-hee's future moves and activities. Wouldn't Kim Gun-hee think a lot more than anyone else, not only the president? Then, I think we will decide now in consideration of the political judgment and publicity aspect so that the people can feel more comfortable in the future. So, you may think that making that critical argument from outside, especially within our conservative camp, rather than from outside, is of course bitter, but I think there are some aspects that we need to consider.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: We should've done it behind closed doors. Are you talking about this?
◇Kim Jae-won: Rather than being private, there must be a problem with the way it is.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: There was a problem with the way it was disclosed. Can we organize it like this?
◇ Kim Jae-won: That's not what you usually do, is it? I didn't do it like this.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Okay. Let's move on to the National Assembly. The National Assembly's executive and security committee issued a companion order to Lee Myung-tae-kyun and former lawmaker Kim Young-sun, which are also related to Kim Gun-hee. It is a so-called suspicion of intervening in the nomination of Kim Gun-hee. How do you see this controversy?
◇Kim Jae-won: The National Assembly issued a companion order. Strictly speaking, the Democratic Party issued it, and the Democratic Party now wanders the streets with a companion order, putting on a kind of show. But more than that, I think Kim Young-sun, at least former lawmaker Kim Young-sun, and Myung Tae-kyun should come to the parliamentary audit site and receive questions from lawmakers or that point from lawmakers. Because especially the two of you are talking about all kinds of things to the media. In the case of Myung Tae-kyun, he's almost like a person who's lost his reason. You're talking right now. Why doesn't such a person go to the National Assembly? And furthermore, he is making remarks that are difficult to say as normal remarks. The public may want to know whether he is speaking properly now, but why not go on the air and go to the National Assembly's parliamentary audit? I think this person should catch him really quickly and investigate by an investigative agency or come up with something.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: If Myung Tae-kyun himself opens his mouth to the prosecution, he will have to impeach President Yoon within a month. After saying this, it was a bit of a bluff. That's what it said in the exclusive report.
◇Kim Jae-won: I don't know if it's a bluff or a real thing, but I think we have to catch him and arrest him. If you don't do that, isn't the president pretending to have caught any major weakness? As far as I know, of course, I met the president and talked about many things when I was a candidate for the primary at the time, but I think he is a charlatan who has not adopted much. And now that I was the party's supreme council member at that time, I didn't participate in the primary camp, but Yoon Suk Yeol won the election as the party's candidate and became the party's president of strategy. But I've never heard of the name Myung Tae-kyun in the campaign headquarters.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: He has never heard of this before in the candidate camp.
◇ Kim Jae-won: That's why I call it "never heard of anything." This is a situation that needs to be accurately evaluated by the public as well, where such a person talks as if he has done something great and everything he says has had a great influence on the presidential candidate. And you'll have to meet hundreds of presidential candidates or would-be presidential candidates in person a day and hear from them. But just because he said one or two things, he helped the election.A person with such a level of improvement is talking like a sane person right now as if the country would be noisy if he opened his mouth, but I think he should rule it strictly.
◆Bae Seung-hee: Since he said that, he posted on his SNS, "Do you know why he dropped Nam-gu, Daegu Mayor, and Suseong, Daegu?"
◇Kim Jae-won: So I thought he was not normal because the party decided not to nominate him for the election in Jungnam-gu, Daegu. Then, he seems to be the one behind the decision to not nominate, and why did he fail in the Daegu mayoral race? What can affect the Daegu mayoral race is that there was an illegal poll at the time, so the representative of the poll company and the employee were punished. And the poll company is another unheard of poll company. It was a strange, unnamed poll company headquartered in Dubai in the Middle East. However, at that time, when criminal punishment was received, the clients who actually requested the poll were not punished. I have a strong idea now whether the person who paid the money is the one behind it, so I'm preparing to file a complaint within today. And if you ask why the nomination failed in the by-election in Suseong-eul-gu, you claim that you are the one behind it. Now, these three things seem to have an obligation to follow him to the end of the earth and arrest him, but I think this is a lie.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: But the party doesn't file a complaint by itself today.
◇Kim Jae-won: I'm the accuser.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: The accuser.
◇Kim Jae-won: Because the verdict is out.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: It's that Myung Tae-kyun is behind the illegal poll.
◇Kim Jae-won: No, he's telling a similar story and threatening the mayor of Hong Joon Pyo. So if that's the case, I'll ask the investigation agency to investigate it, but I think this is also a lie. So Rep. Lee Joon-seok was angry that he didn't do this, but Rep. Lee Joon-seok doesn't have to pay much attention to this. Myung Tae-kyun is bragging about this.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: But regarding Myung Tae-kyun, you said you would submit a complaint today, and if you look at lawmaker Lee Jun-seok, Rather, there's a beer meeting. We talk about beer meeting with the candidate at the time of the Yoon Suk Yeol like this. Please hold it as you said. Isn't that what Rep. Lee Joon-seok says first?
◇Kim Jae-won: Rep. Lee Joon-seok and Myung Tae-kyun are known to have played a decisive role in the process of becoming the party leader when he was the party leader. Then I don't know what kind of opinion poll was manipulated, but I think that's a lie, but lawmaker Lee Joon-seok should reveal this point.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: As I said before, the boss sends me a text saying, "Please make a table on Sunday." If you asked Myung Tae Kyun to make that place, wouldn't Lee Jun-seok believe that he said that?
◇ Kim Jae-won: But Lee Joon-seok decided by his party. Anyway, I think Myung Tae-kyun is much more of a charlatan, and lawmaker Lee Joon-seok has a different aspect.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: He got caught Should I look at it like this?
◇ Kim Jae-won: No, it's not like that, but he's making his own claims in a completely different way. Anyway, Rep. Lee Joon-seok tells the public how he got along with Myung Tae-kyun, how long he continued his relationship with Myung Tae-kyun, especially when he met with Rep. Kim Young-sun at Chilbulsa Temple, and he said he didn't agree with anything, but Lee Joon-seok is not the most visible figure in the political circle right now. However, he is in a hurry to attack the other person whenever he talks about this, maybe to defend himself. You can't do that.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: You're saying to clarify Rep. Lee Joon-seok.
◇Kim Jae-won: You have to reveal it yourself.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: So, Rep. Lee Jun-seok got it. Let's wrap it up like that. President Yoon Suk Yeol and representative Han Dong-hoon will have a solo meeting after the by-elections. These media reports came out. Can we expect to be able to close the conflict between the government and the government?
◇Kim Jae-won: I hope the conflict between the party and the government will serve as an opportunity to resolve the tension between Representative Han Dong-hoon and President Yoon Suk Yeol, not the conflict between the party and the government.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes, is that okay? a private room.
◇ Kim Jae-won: No, the president has already told his aides to review the schedule, so he'll do it. However, in order to do that, we need to have trust in each other to say this for each other, so even if we meet and discuss together, we will listen to the other person's story and accept it. If we want to do that now, CEO Han Dong-hoon should make more efforts to build trust, but now, if you look at the media reports, CEO Han Dong-hoon is getting stronger. There are reports like this. Then, I hope it will be a place to resolve the conflict and ease the conflict, as you said.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: You mentioned that, but I heard that if you had this private room, everyone would have come out. Representative Han Dong-hoon said that Kim Gun-hee was a great man.
◇ Kim Jae-won: We usually meet in secret and talk closely without the need for aides to know what happened, but the Korean people know it. I don't know what to say.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Kim Gun-hee's refrain from activities?
◇ Kim Jae-won: No, you know everything. Then, is this a solo meeting or a request from the president? Anyway, the meaning of a solo meeting is basically to talk candidly and make good results by trusting in it, and I hope to create a preconditioned atmosphere.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: The meaning has been diluted. I'll summarize it like this. The Democratic Party of Korea has decided to pursue a permanent special prosecution targeting the suspicion of Kim. However, the ruling party's right to recommend was also excluded here. How do you see this permanent special prosecutor?
◇Kim Jae-won: Actually, it was the Democratic Party of Korea who first proposed the permanent special prosecution law. In particular, lawmakers such as Park Young-sun proposed and made a bill, but the purpose of the bill is to form a seven-member special prosecutor recommendation committee to appoint a fair special prosecutor, which is the rule of the National Assembly. And the ruling party alone changed the rules of the National Assembly, and now the opposition party alone changed the rules of the National Assembly, taking away the right to recommend two people from the power of the ruling party, the People. So this is an unconstitutional argument because the Democrats are going to appoint a special counsel at their disposal. And if you want to do that, it's also in the newspaper editorial. Rather, the Democratic Party should just set up an independent counsel within the Democratic Party and appoint the independent counsel at will, and the Democratic Party should write an indictment and make a ruling. Why would you appoint a special prosecutor so hard? I don't think I'm thinking normally now to the point where I wonder if there were these political forces.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: If Lee Jae-myung can't work, he has to pull him out in the middle of his term. I'm sure that means impeachment when I say this.
◇Kim Jae-won: I think Representative Lee Jae-myung did not mean impeachment. Impeachment is a legitimate claim to be judged by the Constitutional Court after a National Assembly resolution, but isn't it a kind of argument that leads to and brings down the civil war? However, since representative Lee Jae-myung will be sentenced in November, I think after this parliamentary audit, he will hold a lot of rallies in Gwanghwamun and candlelight rallies to oust the Yoon Suk Yeol regime, and maybe he will conduct such a campaign himself and bring about favorable results for his trial.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: I think we should stop here today. I didn't have enough time. So far, we have been with Kim Jae-won, the supreme council member of the People's Power. Thank you.
◇Kim Jae-won: Thank you.
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