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[Anchor]
The Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit considers it a "refusal to investigate" and is struggling with the request for an arrest warrant and the third summons. Let's take a look at the investigation of the emergency martial law situation with Baek Jong-kyu, a reporter from the Ministry of Social Affairs. Please come in. Since the date of the summons of President Yoon, which was notified by the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, was tomorrow, this part drew attention to whether President Yoon would appear or what special response he would come up with, but he made this position that it was difficult to attend today.
[Reporter]
That's right. Lawyer Seok Dong-hyun, who is involved in the formation of a delegation by President Yoon Suk Yeol, met with reporters yesterday and talked again today. Lawyer Seok said he believes it would be difficult for President Yoon to attend tomorrow. At the same time, the president said that conditions must be prepared, and that the Constitutional Court's impeachment trial process is a priority as the National Assembly has filed an impeachment motion this time. He also explained that the impeachment trial process is set and that the basic position of the president as a claimant for impeachment is explained to the judges and the public. He argued that if a rough position is expressed, the people will look at the issue objectively and sternly. President Yoon Suk Yeol also refused to comply with the first request for attendance at the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit on the 18th. Tomorrow's Christmas investigation is also expected to fail. Earlier, the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit sent a second request to President Yoon to attend the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit at the Gwacheon Government Complex tomorrow, Christmas Day, and to be investigated as a suspect of abuse of authority by the head of the rebellion.
[Anchor]
The impeachment trial process takes precedence over the investigation. If so, President Yoon will continue to refuse to comply with the investigation by the investigative agency, should we predict it like this?
[Reporter]
Yes, can the investigation response be different depending on whether or not it is impeached? The reporters asked me this question. But lawyer Seok said this. I'm not saying we should do it after it's over, but at least at the beginning, I said that we should at least get an overview of the president's position. At the same time, he replied that he would comply with the investigation process when the time came. In addition, it is difficult to know objectively and accurately what the investigation said and how it went inside. He also argued that it was not the kind of matter to explain to the investigator whether it was a civil war or not. He explained that he would be able to say things that the investigator wants to say and the prerequisite facts related to the current issue, and that in the Constitutional Court trial process, he would be able to say something sufficiently organized in the form of a dispute. However, President Yoon Suk Yeol's position is contrary to President Yoon's public statement that he will confidently confront impeachment or investigation. So it may be judged as a time-dragging and delay strategy. For now, he has repeatedly expressed his willingness to comply with the impeachment trial process rather than the investigation.
[Anchor]
I think it was a day where all the attention was focused on lawyer Seok's mouth, but something will be made after the day after Christmas regarding the Constitutional Court's impeachment trial. I used to say this.
[Reporter]
That's right. Lawyer Seok explained that on the 26th, the lawyers will give a organized position. At the same time, he explained that he would not announce all the problems, but that there would be a position or response to the process of preparing for the hearing on the 27th. It also evaluated the situation of the Constitutional Court, where lawyer Seok and three constitutional judges were vacant, as an incomplete consultative body of six. It is interpreted that the Constitutional Court raised a question to the effect that the impeachment trial of President Yoon Suk Yeol should not be held and concluded in the six-member system. Lawyer Seok stressed that reporters asked if President Yoon Suk Yeol is suffering from a shortage of lawyers, but this is not the case.
[Anchor]
Attention is focusing on what position he will present on the 26th. What is the position of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit currently in response to the investigation?
[Reporter]
The Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit is internally reviewing what measures to take in the future. Oh Dong-woon, the head of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, expressed his position today in a pending question at the National Assembly's Legislative and Judiciary Committee. Rep. Park Kyun-taek of the Democratic Party of Korea asked if he would seek an arrest warrant if President Yoon refused to comply with his second request for attendance. Director of Airborne, Oh Dong-woon, will wait until tomorrow to see if the president will attend.That's what I said. At the same time, he mentioned that he really expects the president to make time to attend the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit. As questions continued about whether to request an arrest warrant again, no policy has been decided so far on that part. I emphasized it like this. Therefore, rather than requesting an arrest warrant, it seems that the weight was placed on notifying the third summons, and this evaluation is coming out.
[Anchor]
You organized the investigation of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, but if you look at the police, they booked the 2nd Armored Brigade Commander of the Army Gusamhoe today and started a full-fledged investigation?
[Reporter]
That's right. Police have booked all those involved in the so-called first, second, and third hamburger store meetings as suspects and launched a full-fledged investigation. On the 1st, Colonel Kim Bong-gyu and Colonel Jung Sung-wook of the Intelligence Command, who attended the first meeting, were transferred to the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit as accomplices of rebellion and abuse of authority. The police also booked the second armored brigade commander of the Army Gusamhoe and Bang Jung-hwan, the Ministry of National Defense's innovation planning officer. In connection with the order to enter the NEC, Jung Sung-woo, the first chief of the counterintelligence agency, was booked and even summoned. On the afternoon of the declaration of martial law, the commander of the 93rd Brigade attended the second hamburger store meeting with former intelligence commander Roh Sang-won. And after martial law was declared, I waited in the office of the 100th Brigade in Pangyo. It was revealed that the commander of the tank unit, the brigade commander Koo, left his unit at the time and waited. Suspicions are being raised that the tank unit was also trying to mobilize during martial law. It is confirmed that Bang Jung-hwan, a planning officer, was also in the office of the 100th Brigade at the time. It has been confirmed that he has decided to head the second investigation team and the former brigade commander. In the second hamburger store meeting, it is confirmed that there was a plot to set up a second investigation team in addition to the joint investigation team within the joint headquarters, which is an official organization, led by former commander Roh. It is understood that Jeong Seong-woo, the first director of counterintelligence, received specific instructions from the counterintelligence commander at the time of Yeo In-hyeong regarding the mission to take control of the NEC.
[Anchor]
There are a lot of people coming out right now, but Roh Sang-won, the former intelligence commander, is the main focus. Smoking gun, it's supposed to be a key piece of evidence, but I sent it to the prosecution today.
[Reporter]
That's right. The police detained former intelligence commander Roh Sang-won at the Seoul Central District Prosecutors' Office this morning on charges of executing rebellion and abusing his authority. When former intelligence commander Roh Sang-won was sent, reporters asked him whether he had communicated directly with President Yoon Suk Yeol and how he tried to induce North Korea's attack, but he did not answer. There was a notebook that I told you about yesterday. I asked them, but former intelligence commander Roh did not answer them at all. He is known as a secret line of former intelligence commander Roh and former Defense Minister Kim Yong-hyun. He is also the person who was pointed out for planning this martial law. The prosecution will now conduct a follow-up investigation into former commander Roh, who left this notebook, which can be a key figure in the martial law mock process and a key evidence of this investigation. In addition, the prosecution's investigation is expected to reveal whether former commander Roh participated in the emergency martial law. In the future, the prosecution's investigation is expected to focus on finding out whether the notebook was reported to President Yoon Suk Yeol through former Defense Minister Kim Yong-hyun.
[Anchor]
And didn't the prosecution reveal that the prosecution transfers the case to the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit regarding the case of President Yoon Suk Yeol and former Minister of Public Administration and Security Lee Sang-min? However, I was curious about when this will be completed and what data has been handed over so far, but I heard that some of the data have been handed over.
[Reporter]
It was last week. The prosecution and the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit had a war of nerves over the right to investigate, and in the end, the prosecution decided to hand over the case to the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit. The case of President Yoon Suk Yeol and former Minister of Public Administration and Security Lee Sang-min. However, it has been confirmed that only some data have been handed over so far. It is said that basic data, such as a complaint related to President Yoon Suk Yeol and former Minister Lee, were recently sent to the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit. However, it is known that the statements and investigation records of key people to find out the full extent of the emergency martial law incident, former Defense Minister Kim Yong-hyun and military officials have not yet been handed over. The Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit believes that in order to proceed with the investigation, it should take over all the statements of key people, including former Minister Kim. The prosecution is in a different position. They say they cannot hand over all the investigation records of former Minister Kim and others because only the investigation into the two was transferred to the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit. As a result, the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit is expected to continue the war of nerves for the time being over whether the prosecution will cooperate, such as sending investigation records.
[Anchor]
The prosecution, the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, and the suspects in the emergency martial law case have agreed to be arrested for up to 20 days. It is expected that the speed will increase a little, but how will the prosecution and the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit divide the period?
[Reporter]
The decision was made while officials from the Supreme Prosecutors' Office and the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit met to discuss follow-up measures following President Yoon Suk Yeol's transfer of the civil war case. Under the Criminal Procedure Act, there is a rule that judicial police officers can arrest suspects with court permission for up to 10 days and prosecutors for up to 20 days. Accordingly, a suspect arrested at the police level can be arrested for up to 30 days before the prosecution indicts, that is, 20 days at the prosecution level. However, the Airborne Division Act does not separately stipulate the period during which the Airborne Division prosecutor can arrest the suspect. At this time, the Prosecutor's Office Act and the Criminal Procedure Act are supposed to be applied mutatis mutandis, but interpretations have been divided over how to divide the arrest period with the prosecution if the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit does not have the authority to prosecute. The prosecution and the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit agreed to set the maximum arrest period to 20 days after consultation. However, it has not been decided in detail how the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit and the prosecution will divide the arrest investigation period for up to 20 days. In response, Oh Dong-woon, the head of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, said at a plenary session of the National Assembly's Legislative and Judiciary Committee that if the prosecution and the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit can spend 20 days together, it is understood that they will use half of them.
[Anchor]
And today at the National Assembly, there was a briefing from the National Assembly Secretariat on martial law, and the National Assembly Secretariat said that the video of the martial law army dispatched to the National Assembly Speaker's official residence on the day of the emergency martial law, as we have shown in the report, we need to clarify our position on the background of this dispatch, did you seem to have expressed your position like this again?
[Reporter]
That's right. National Assembly Secretary-General Kim Min-ki held a press conference today. When the emergency martial law of the president of Yoon Suk Yeol was declared, CCTV footage showed 13 soldiers dispatched to the National Assembly speaker's official residence. As the media raised suspicions that armed soldiers were dispatched to the chairman's official residence, they investigated all CCTVs. Secretary-General Kim said, "CCTV footage showed 11 soldiers and two men in plain clothes. I said that there were these armed soldiers. They then said in a Cabinet meeting that they wandered around the diplomatic mission from 4:30 a.m. to 4:45 a.m., after the emergency martial law was lifted. After the decision to lift martial law, he raised the question of whether there was an order to arrest the speaker of the National Assembly, who may return to the diplomatic mission. He also urged the Ministry of National Defense to explain whether there was an intention of the second martial law. The Ministry of National Defense stressed that CCTV should be checked and disclosed whether additional troops are deployed in addition to troops. He also demanded that investigative agencies conduct a quick and thorough investigation into whether they attempted a second martial law.
[Anchor]
When it became controversial, the Ministry of National Defense took a stand on this. There was a request from the Presidential Security Service. I explained it like this. What is it about?
[Reporter]
That's right. The Ministry of National Defense sent the personnel on the 4th after the Presidential Security Service requested support for guard troops to strengthen the security of the Hannam-dong mission area. That's what I said. Afterwards, he said that he supported 70 unarmed soldiers in the water defense. He then explained that 11 people were deployed around the National Assembly Speaker's official residence at the time, and that the two plainclothes personnel in the CCTV footage were soldiers who were monitoring wildfires and patrolling the outskirts of the fence in Hannam-dong Military Facility Protection Zone. At the same time, the soldiers said they had not moved outside the Hannam-dong Military Facility Protection Zone. However, there were statements that the martial law army that broke into the National Assembly earlier ordered the arrest of about 10 major politicians, including Chairman Woo and the representatives of the ruling and opposition parties. In light of this situation, it seems to be a matter of further confirmation whether the Ministry of National Defense's explanation is correct.
[Anchor]
On the other hand, the deadline for President Yoon Suk Yeol to submit relevant documents such as martial law proclamation and minutes of the Cabinet meeting to the Constitutional Court is today, but of course, there are a few hours left.Considering lawyer Seok's position today, Ma is unlikely to submit this document. There are a lot of these prospects, so how should I look at them?
[Reporter]
Earlier, the Constitutional Court ordered President Yoon Suk Yeol to submit the minutes of the martial law-related Cabinet meeting and decree No. 1 declared by the martial law commander through a preparatory order. At the same time, this deadline was set until today. It has repeatedly stated that there is no change again. However, it is unclear whether President Yoon Suk Yeol will submit the documents. The Constitutional Court continues to say that it is rushing important issues while the president of Yoon Suk Yeol is engaged in a kind of public opinion war. It is also explained to the effect that it is unreasonable to consider service. So it seems very likely that you will not respond to the Constitutional Court's demand to release the data by today.
[Anchor]
The Constitutional Court held a briefing today and announced its position. It is said that there is no document submitted by President Yoon yet, is that correct?
[Reporter]
That's right. The Constitutional Court briefed this afternoon. There is no document submitted by President Yoon Suk Yeol on the spot. So we said that there was no document we received. There were also some questions from reporters regarding the fact that President Yoon Suk Yeol would not attend the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, saying that the impeachment trial is a priority over the investigation. Then, the Constitutional Court said that lawyer Seok Dong-hyun was not considered an agent in connection with this case and expressed a little discomfort. Regarding President Yoon Suk Yeol's assessment of the Constitutional Court as an incomplete six-member consensus, he reiterated that it is possible to hold hearings with six members. And before that, Constitutional Judge Kim Hyung-doo met with reporters on his way to work. At the same time, he said that even if Yoon Suk Yeol's representatives are absent from the impeachment defense preparation date scheduled for the 27th, it is possible to continue the deadline. Regarding President Yoon Suk Yeol's claim to the effect that the Constitutional Court proceedings are fast, he also said, "I don't think this issue is the nature of the Constitutional Court judges to discuss."
[Anchor]
And the Constitutional Court will hold a briefing on the 26th, the day after Christmas, to hold a meeting of the impeachment judges of the president, right? First of all, if you look at this, do I understand that the impeachment proceedings go as scheduled?
[Reporter]
That's right. The Constitutional Court explained that it will hold a meeting of judges on the 26th, the day after Christmas. The contents of the meeting are confidential. However, the meeting will be held a day before the first hearing of President Yoon Suk Yeol's impeachment trial. So I think we will exchange opinions on the progress of the procedure. As I said, the first hearing preparation date is the next day. The preparation date is a process of organizing issues and psychological plans. However, the president of Yoon Suk Yeol does not have to come out in person because he is not obligated to attend. However, an agent has to come out and participate. The 17-member National Assembly's delegation submitted a power of attorney to the Constitutional Court yesterday. However, President Yoon Suk Yeol has not yet officially set up a delegation, so it is questionable whether a delegation will come out on the preparation date. In this case, there is a possibility that the date will remain idle as in the previous prosecutor impeachment case. There is also a possibility that the impeachment proceedings will be delayed.
[Anchor]
I see. I've summarized the investigation so far. I was Baek Jong-gyu, a reporter from the Ministry of Social Affairs. Thank you.
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