Jang Sung-chul said, "Pro-Limit's dinner, there's a threatening message."Pro-Yoon with no centripetal point. I think there will be about 10 people."

◆ [YTN Radio SHINYUL's news]
■ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (17:00-19:00)

■ Air date: October 7, 2024 (Monday)
■ Proceedings: Shin Yul, Professor of Political Science and Diplomacy at Myongji University
■ Dialogue: Jang Sung-chul, Director of Public Opinion Center, Kim Min-ha, Current Affairs Critic

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Jang Sung-cheol
- Li's remarks = 尹 impeachment should not be repeated or repeated
- 'Kim Gun-hee's Special Prosecutor Act' may exceed 200 votes.If circumstantial evidence is revealed, there is a high possibility of leaving the 與
- 'pro-limit' one plus one? We need to believe that we can differentiate ourselves from the South Korean and Yoon administrations

Kim Min-ha
- Frequent mention of 'impeachment'? The misfortune of Korean politics...When the government and the ruling party should be emphasized
- Conservative media also demanded an apology from Kim Gun-hee, reached a boiling point for public opinion
- 'pro-limit' dinner? It's not a dowon resolution.President Yoon, not Han Dong-hoon, made it

◇ Shin Yul, Professor of Political Science and Diplomacy at Myongji University (hereinafter Shin Yul): After Shin Yul's news head-to-head competition reorganization, the first part of the section shows you every Monday. I'm Political Kim & Chang. Kim and Jang are here again today. Let me introduce them one by one. Jang Sung-chul, director of the Public Opinion Center, and Kim Min-ah, a current affairs critic. Welcome.

★ Jang Sung-cheol, Director of Public Opinion Center (hereinafter referred to as Jang Sung-cheol), ☆ Kim Min-ha, Current Affairs Critic (hereinafter referred to as Kim Min-ha): Hello.

☆ Kim Min-ha: I want you to change the name of the corner.

◇ What should I do?

☆ Kim Min-ha: Black-and-white chefs are popular these days. a black-and-white critic

◇ Sin Yul: a black-and-white critic. But if you do it wrong, you can take it as a path concept opposite to color television. But you must be working hard.

☆ Kim Min-ha: I didn't watch it.

◇ Didn't you see that? Did you see it?

★ Jang Sung-chul: No. I didn't see it.

◇ Shin Yul: I'm the only one who saw it. That's why there's nothing I can do most. But that's fun. It's fun. When I see that, why is it so popular? In my view, isn't this program a little bit soothing that young people are dry of fairness in competition because it is an infinite competition but can throw the topic of fairness? I think it's possible to give that meaning.

★ Jang Sung-chul: I don't watch things like that. When I have time, I keep listening to Shin Yul's head-to-head match on YouTube and studying.

◇ Shin Yul: This is our director Jang Sung-chul who is about to start his social life in earnest. Everyone, let's talk about the by-elections first. Representative Lee Jae-myung has said that he should bring it down, but isn't the ruling party talking about impeachment now? But the Democratic Party says it's not.

★ Jang Sung-chul: What does that mean?

◇ Sin-ryul: I was just referring to the democratic process.

★ Jang Sung-chul: That's impeachment. I think it is deceiving the people to say it differently only when it is recognized that the democratic process of the Constitution is brought down from the presidency. If you can't work, you have to scold them and make them do well. It's not even a private company. It's not in the Constitution and the law to bring down a president who was elected to the people just because he can't work. I criticize President Yoon Suk Yeol a lot. Mrs. Kim Gun-hee, I don't think anyone criticizes it as much as I do. In the conservative-right camp, but that's to do well and correct the wrong errors because it just comes down from the presidency and I don't say that. I've been in the conservative right wing for a long time, and I was quite angry about former President Park Geun Hye's manipulation of state affairs and thought about going out on the streets. But after the impeachment, the camp itself was completely broken and collapsed. So it shouldn't be repeated or repeated.

◇ Jinyoung is not the only one who collapsed.

★ Jang Sung-chul: The country has become very difficult.

◇ Sin-ryul: The country has become difficult and has been divided into extremes, so the aftermath of impeachment is very big.

★ Jang Sung-chul: That's right. So I hope President Yoon Suk Yeol will do his best in politics so that such unfortunate history will not be repeated again. I'm saying that I'm criticizing it in that sense. The Democratic Party also seems to be saying the word impeachment repeatedly to make it easier for the people to access it, but if you do it wrong, it is a headwind. So I don't want you to say the word "impeachment" so easily.

◇ Sin Yul: How do you watch it? Critic Kim Minha?

☆ Kim Min-ha: I think that's what the Democratic Party is talking about. If you say that Lee Jae-myung's mention is not about impeachment itself, it's actually not right and he was talking about impeachment. However, I don't think that's the case with the Democratic Party of Korea, for example, whether it's going to push for impeachment, and the fact that this is a fundamental process is based on what Representative Lee Jae-myung said. If you don't improve even though you've done something wrong, you have to pull it out in the middle if you can't work. In that respect, the Democratic Party of Korea explained it, but I think it's the misfortune of Korean politics, regardless of the camp, that this impeachment is constantly mentioned. It's not like we're a South American country. If the president is impeached every time he's elected, for example, wouldn't it be unfortunate? So, such unfortunate situations should not be right, but now we can say that there is a problem with the Democratic Party of Korea continuing to talk about impeachment.In fact, the government and the ruling party need to solve the problem so that Ma can't talk about this. There are various suspicions related to First Lady Kim Gun-hee, and criticism of President Yoon Suk Yeol is actually not just a day or two. In fact, even within the ruling party, there are growing calls for something to be resolved regarding the issue of Kim Gun-hee. So, in fact, Han Dong-hoon, chairman of the People's Power Party, said, "I don't think I'm a good politician because I'm a political expert when I evaluate him as a critic, but people are gathering when I ask him to eat together, right? So, considering the various environments, I think it's time to emphasize once again that this administration and the ruling party have a role to play in order not to go back to such national misfortune.

◇ Sin-ryul: Speaking of which, I suddenly remembered, but whatever day it was, there was a vote last week, and the minimum number of leave votes was 2 to 4 votes. But what do you think it means? Our director Jang Sung-chul

★ Jang Sung-chul: So far, we can protect, defend and block them, but if Kim Gun-hee was involved in inappropriate things during the parliamentary inspection or intervened in the nomination process, Or we can't stop it if it turns out that we've done something else with clear facts and evidence. I think we need to clean up the problem of Mrs. Kim Gun-hee. I think it's such a warning sign. Anyway, it seems that the Democratic Party will focus its firepower on First Lady Kim Gun-hee this time. So if various circumstantial evidence is revealed, next time a majority of the People's Power lawmakers are likely to vote in favor.

◇ Sin-ryul: It means that it's going to increase. Is it a leave ticket?

★ Jang Sung-chul: So I think there is a possibility that the first round will exceed 200 votes. Because why is the conservative camp ruined and ruined because of First Lady Kim Gun-hee, so why are the people's power lawmakers being abandoned and pointed fingers at by the people? If there's something wrong, you can apologize for it and face legal punishment if you break the law. I don't think giving the impression of preventing such a thing as power is helpful to the regime and the conservative camp of people's power. People's Power Lawmakers say that there is nothing wrong with Kim Gun-hee, but I think anyone can admit that the prosecution's investigation is not being carried out properly to prevent Kim Gun-hee's fault from being revealed. So it's not right to block it with power. In that sense, even if only a certain amount of facts are confirmed, if the Democratic Party of Korea re-imposes the Kim Gun-hee Special Prosecutor Act in November or December.

◇ I heard it's in November.

★ Jang Sung-chul: Then I think the members of the People's Power will say, "I think we need to clean this up and go."

◇ Shin Yul: Today's front page of the Chosun Ilbo was that. There is no shame in apologizing to the people. I remember that, how do you see it?

☆ Kim Min-ha: First of all, the public opinion that conservative media and conservative so-called conservative voters should solve this problem in some way has now come to a boiling point. I keep seeing what kind of voice I make in conservative media.Ma even writes this in some columns in the Dong-A Ilbo. Shouldn't Kim Geon-hee at least apologize in the ruling party now? It is not something to end with an apology for this kind of voice. I saw a column titled "It's a matter that needs judicial action."

◇ Shin Yul: In the Dong-A Ilbo column?

☆ Kim Min-ha: That's right. That's why this conservative media...

◇ Shin Yul: It's not a column, but it's a column because there's an editorial writer.

☆ Kim Min-ha: That's right. But it's an editorial writer's column. So, what about the internal atmosphere of the people's power? If I keep looking at the articles, the comments of the members of the People's Power, a media reporter, asked me, and there are quoted words that have been anonymously commented on, but similar concerns are read in those words. There is a need to apologize and there are many options, but in fact, it seems that any situation to solve this with an apology has passed. He is saying that a more comprehensive response is needed, and if you look at the Dong-A Ilbo today, Myung Tae-kyun will come out and interview him.

◇ Shin Yul: You did an exclusive interview.

☆ Kim Min-ha: So yesterday on another YouTube channel, a close aide of Myung Tae-kyun came out and raised suspicions again, right? We are in a state of chaos, and the president's office said, "If these allegations are not true, they are not." This is all a lie. Can you go like this? Looking at the position that came out today, I don't think so either. I don't deny that President Yoon Suk Yeol knew Myung Tae-kyun, and that I have met him, and that I have come home doesn't deny that I have. It's just that the number of times has been exaggerated or that they've already cut ties during the presidential race. If you explain it like that, people who keep watching the news can feel that some of the claims of Lee Myung-tae-kyun or these people are not completely false. Oh, then we have to investigate this. If some illegal acts or things are confirmed here, it could spark a fire in the impeachment theory that the opposition party claims. This is how the story goes. It's going to flow. That's why I'm saying once again that you really shouldn't respond this lukewarmly like the current situation.

◇ Shin Yul: But in the meantime, representative Han Dong-hoon is not a member of the Supreme Council, but the Supreme Council member and our Supreme Council member Kim Jong-hyuk went together, so we had dinner anyway. And he paid great attention to it, and not only some photos, but also lawmaker Cho Kyung-tae was always right next to representative Han Dong-hoon. So I was like, "Isn't this the leader?" There are comments like this, too. How do you watch it?

★ Jang Sung-chul: I'm sure CEO Han Dong-hoon intended it. "I'm not an outcast, I'm not isolated. I have about 20 people on my side. Don't ignore me. Don't keep pushing me like this. I can make a big decision." I think there's also a threat like that. But I wonder if it was the right format for such a meeting at the time of day. You don't have a president. You went on a foreign tour. I wonder if it was right to have such a meeting during the trip to Southeast Asia to Greece, and I'm sure the president's office and the nuclear officials will feel it as a threat. Look at this. I'm showing off the tax amount now. I think they'll give me an excuse like, "I really can't leave it alone." The president goes abroad and works hard for the national interest, and the leader of the ruling party holds such a meeting where the leader of the ruling party rips a knife on the president's back. I don't think the timing and the nature of such a meeting are appropriate because I think this will give an excuse that I shouldn't stay still. Rather, I think CEO Han Dong-hoon is a person who doesn't have political power and affinity over the past two months. Because if you look at the reports in Han Dong-hoon-affiliated media after the national convention, it's about 30 minutes. But yesterday, there were 22 lawmakers, including 17 supreme council members, but the extension was not expanded, but considering that, the extension was reduced.

◇ Shin Yul: I can ask you a question. How many people do you think you have? Pro-Yoon lawmakers?

★ Jang Sung-chul: Chin-yoon has no centrality, so they're just individual people, so wouldn't there be about 10 of them? I'd like to.

◇ Shin Yul: Rep. Park Jung-hoon also said on the show that it's not that long today.

★ Jang Sung-chul: I think there are fewer than 10 people who can openly talk to our president about why you are a bad person. If Representative Han Dong-hoon communicated his political power more actively with the lawmakers over the past two months, it should have increased. If the people here catch us one by one, we can become 50 soon.

◇ Shin Yul: They said they were going to catch one person at a time.

★ Jang Sung-chul: Is it one plus one? What kind of mart does this buy? You shouldn't do that. If the party leader persuades the lawmakers in the party with a clear vision and justification and if we trust Han Dong-hoon, we can differentiate ourselves wisely from the Yoon Suk Yeol regime and win back the support and love of the people. Then you have to give me faith. Mrs. Kim Gun-hee is in trouble now, so I have to take sides once or twice. Even if we do this, will the unity and maintenance of the group be long? So I don't like that meeting and what's coming out of it. Honestly, how do you see it in many ways?

☆ Kim Min-ha: Since you are a white spoon critic, you talked about your argument, but now you are a black spoon critic, so I'm sure there's that part. Representative Han Dong-hoon pointed out how well he was good at politics after the national convention, but what should I say about President Yoon Suk Yeol's so-called? I expected it to be difficult in a relationship that I didn't really like. Then, organizing one's side in politics is criticized in many ways, but isn't it inevitable? I should have worked hard on those things, but I think CEO Han Dong-hoon is not good at such things. I think he's trying, but the number of people who say, "I'm close to you" keeps decreasing, so now there are fewer than 10 people. It was such a situation, but to reverse what you said, despite the fact that the president is so busy and there is room for criticism due to such a situation, I think it's important why about 20 people gathered when representative Han Dong-hoon asked me to eat. It wasn't CEO Han Dong-hoon who made the situation why 20 people gathered, but in fact, it was President Yoon Suk Yeol. President Yoon Suk Yeol is apparently trying to kill representative Han Dong-hoon. He said that he gathered with the intention of calling floor leader Choo Kyung-ho or standing committee chairmen to prepare well for the parliamentary audit just before the independent counsel law was passed, but didn't the media interpret it like that as a series of situations unfolding, including excluding representative Han Dong-hoon and having dinner and showing this? Han Dong-hoon has entered into a war of words. But CEO Han Dong-hoon said, "I will eat with the chairman of the outside committee. This is not enough to counter the Yoon Suk Yeol president's anti-war operation. Since it is inevitable to gather his side on the floor, in fact, it was only done. In my view, the gathering of the 20 people is to support all loyalty to representative Han Dong-hoon. Rather than being in an atmosphere of gathering ubiquitous nursing equipment and making a decision to visit, we should create an atmosphere of saying something in the long run rather than openly checking President Yoon Suk Yeol. In order to do that, isn't this the only part that Han Dong-won is leaning on now? I think I went like this in this atmosphere, so I need to pay attention to that part. Since when has lawmaker Cho Kyung-tae actually been in this position of being close?

◇ Shin Yul: Originally, in the primary, it was on the side of Na Kyung-won.

☆ Kim Min-ha: That's right. But why would it be there? You have to look at these things well.

◇ Sin-ryul: But. I have one more question. CEO Han Dong-hoon...

★ Jang Sung-cheol: But the professor really does it more and does it better than us, but it's burdensome because he keeps asking us.

◇ Voiceover: You're looking at the standard of social life.

☆ Kim Min-ha: Jongwon Baek is a judge in a black-and-white chef.

◇ Shin Yul: Look carefully. Why did CEO Han Dong-hoon say that it didn't come from our side while talking about the departure ticket? It's not a ticket from our side. Look at this depending on what you hear. You're not going to decide who you are. How do you see it?

★ Jang Sung-chul: I think he just confessed himself by surprise, but that's why he's protesting. Why would you say that if you don't doubt it? Rep. Park Jung-hoon also said that on the show, and I think that wasn't a little unnecessary and useless. And they analyzed the votes. The invalid votes or abstention votes must have been like this. It was a warning. How do you know how you feel? Then, you can't help but suspect that you didn't vote for it, so you said what you didn't have to say, but I think it was inappropriate for Han Dong-hoon to have a dinner yesterday, and it was also inappropriate for the party leader not to go to the president's overseas trip. To be honest, there is not much that the party leader can do during the audit. It's not a badge, so you don't do an inspection. Then, I can go today, tomorrow, and as much as I want, but I can't send the president back because I have to support the head of Geumjeong-gu. Despite the election to support the head of Geumjeong-gu, he should have left. And you should have come back down and led the election and campaigned. This is because I don't want to meet the president and I don't want to see you, so I don't want to go out. I just made an excuse to support the head of the district. That provided another excuse. Really, then let's try it. The president doesn't want to go abroad, but the leader of the ruling party doesn't come out, so he doesn't even say goodbye. He's just taking it. Yongsan or the president can think that way. So if you are in such a hurry to support the mayor's election, why do you go up in the evening, but why do you have dinner again? It doesn't add up. So I should have done something, played tug-of-war, and asked for what I had to do, but yesterday, I think both steps were a little inappropriate.

◇ Shin-yul: Now that the director is saying that, the power of the people in Honam Gokseong is going to run hard, but strengthen it, and if the power of the people here in Geumjeong, Busan, Geumjeong, even though it is an election for the head of a local government, will it affect representative Han? How do you see it?

☆ Kim Min-ha: Don't you think so? Actually, that's why I have no choice but to go to Geumjeong in Busan. In a hurry, Chairman Han Dong-hoon said, "In the case of Busan Geumjeong, didn't you think that the Cho Kuk Innovation Party and the Democratic Party of Korea would not unify? In the end, of course, just because Geumjeong-gu in Busan has been unified like that, I am quickly transformed into a friendly vote of the opposition. I think it's hard to see it like this, but despite the results of the poll, if you say you lose here anyway, I'm quoting it because this is an expression reported by the media at the last national convention, but there was also talk about the Kim Ok-gyun project. So, using this as an excuse, I told you earlier that I was conducting a test operation, even if I didn't, but I'm probably worried that the president will shake Han Dong-hoon again. As representative Han Dong-hoon and reinforcement said, in the case of reinforcement in Incheon, isn't the power of this people actually divided? The candidate split up and came out as an independent. If you try to criticize such a situation, of course, it will be necessary to question what the actual truth is, but if you try to criticize it, you can criticize the fact that the party's candidate will split up and come out as an independent anyway, and how did the party leader fail to prevent the situation? Then, it is not an exaggeration to say that the political life depended on the by-elections, but from the perspective of CEO Han Dong-hoon, as Director Jang Sung-chul said, there is a formal law, but it is natural to do what we have to do now and take care of what we have to do, but in my view, I am not in the right mind to take care of such things. I feel like they recognize that the current situation is so severe that they have to take some measures to survive quickly.

◇ Shin Yul: It's hectic. But what's hectic about us is the rumor of the October ruling camp crisis and the November opposition camp crisis. How do you see it?

★ Jang Sung-chul: I think both of them are right about the crisis theory. So, in the end, the crisis theory of the ruling party will be revealed a lot as First Lady Kim Gun-hee's risk is focused on the parliamentary inspection, and we need to see how much testimony and facts the Democratic Party will present. In the case of the Democratic Party, if I lost in Yeonggwang-gun County, So, Honam is not friendly to CEO Lee Jae-myung. This atmosphere goes on and I'm guilty on November 15th and 25th. Then, I think this has a very big hole. Of course, for the time being, Lee Jae-myung will strengthen his grip until the second trial, but even if the atmosphere or image of not fully supporting Lee Jae-myung in Honam is confirmed, I think we have no choice but to provide an area of space for other runners to work. So in October, rumors of a crisis in the ruling party are expected to be Kim Gun-hee's risk, and in November, the Democratic Party of Korea will be at risk of ruling Lee Jae-myung.

☆ Kim Min-ha: The problem is that this risk, as you just said, is the so-called Kim Gun-hee risk and Lee Jae-myung risk, if we name it, it's okay if it ends with a crisis between the two. But the problem is that it's becoming like it's letting both sides hang. If Lee Jae-myung goes to the most pessimistic scenario in November, as he just said, wouldn't he go to such a scenario where he has to predict even a situation where he can't actually challenge Lee politically? If it's the worst case scenario, there's no alternative. Hasn't the Democratic Party created a situation where there is no alternative? So, in fact, we have no choice but to risk this situation, so we have no choice but to focus on maximizing the rumor of a crisis in the ruling camp in October. Regarding the rumor of a crisis in the ruling camp in October, this is not just a matter of Yongsan or Kim Gun-hee, but it is confirmed that even one half of the suspicions raised by the opposition party may be true and true to some extent. This is a situation that has no choice but to escalate into a crisis for the conservative camp as a whole. So, this is probably a step in which Yongsan extinguishes the fire in the early stages and the ruling party's countermeasures do not come out. In November, we will raise the independent counsel law again, so I think this is the biggest problem our politics is facing now.

★ Jang Sung-chul: But now the kids are teaching, broadcasting, and I'm going to broadcast now. I think it's unfortunate when I see it.

◇ Sin Yul: It's actually very frustrating.

★ Jang Sung-chul: Because of the risk of Kim Gun-hee, I think it's right to use the energy of national broadcasting to talk about how Kim Gun-hee was on the show. Yongsan and the ruling party, which leave it unattended, seem to be a problem, and the opposition party, which has to attack with something that has not been confirmed yet, seems to be a problem. I think I'm really quite unhappy even though I've been a public before as a broadcast critic, talking about this.

◇ Shin Yul: No, I totally agree. To be honest, I don't really want to watch the news either. I got really depressed.

☆ Kim Min-ha: I actually watch more news from other countries.

◇ Shin Yul: The U.S. presidential election?

☆ Kim Min-ha: I see more places like the U.S. and Japan.

◇ Sin-ryul: That's good. But since time is fun, time has gone by so quickly. Let's stop listening to what you said today.

☆ Kim Min-ha, ★ Jang Sung-chul: Thank you.

◇ Shin Yul: So far, we have been with Jang Sung-chul, director of the Public Opinion Center, and Kim Min-ha, current affairs critics.