[News Fighting] Kim Jae-won, "In the event of a conflict between the party leader and the floor leader, the floor leader comes first."

[YTN Radio News Fighting Bae Seunghee]
□ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (07:15 - 09:00)
□ Broadcast date and time: October 25, 2024 (Fri)
□ Host: Attorney Bae Seung-hee
□ Cast: Kim Jae-won, Supreme Council Member of the People's Power

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◆ Attorney Bae Seung-hee (hereinafter referred to as Bae Seung-hee): I'm Bae Seung-hee, the news fighting. Who is the person who distinguishes the news for Friday's second part? Let's talk with Kim Jae-won, the supreme council member of the news division. Hello,

◇ Kim Jae-won, Supreme Council Member for People's Power (hereinafter referred to as Kim Jae-won): Hello.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: After the meeting with CEO Han Dong-hoon, the rumors of an empty-handed meeting continued, so what did you think? President Yoon's Meeting with Representative Han Dong-hoon

◇Kim Jae-won: Actually, before the interview, CEO Han Dong-hoon asked for a private meeting anyway. And it means that the president and representative Han Dong-hoon meet one-on-one, and even if it is such a meeting, it is a principle that there must be an attendee. It is safe to say that the president does not meet one-on-one when carrying out state affairs. Because from a long time ago, no matter who the king meets, there is a military officer next to him. Even now, the chief of staff has raised the level, and if it's not right, it's a principle to have a record secretary next to you. Anyway, even though there are people present, there are a lot of backstabbing. This is the problem. The fact that both sides talk so much back means that trust has been completely broken. It was the first time I had asked the president for a private meeting, but it was also unusual that he said he would disclose the requirements in advance before the private meeting, and then it was the first time I had such a variety of stories after the private meeting with the president was over. In the end, this resulted in a much worse outcome than the meeting with the opposition leader, and I came to see the trust between President Yoon Suk Yeol and Representative Han Dong-hoon as if it was almost over.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. Representative Han Dong-hoon said, "Why didn't you prepare the round table?" and the president didn't say much, but after listening to the president's office's position. Didn't it appear that CEO Han Dong-hoon explained the details of what he said at the meeting? Who is fighting the truth in this part?

◇ Kim Jae-won: I don't understand such a problem a little bit because I asked the presidential office for a private meeting and said I would meet him after accepting the private meeting, and I will take him with me. It's important for me to sit in that seat, so I thought that the requirement to sit at the operating table was to not recognize the president's status or the president's authority. That's why it's very different from the convention so far and the operation policy of the presidential office. So to do that, I think it would have been right to disclose the requirements publicly and put a handwritten poster without having to ask the president for a private meeting.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: You mean why did you do it?

◇Kim Jae-won: We probably don't have this kind of private meeting anymore, right? I was actually looking at it with concern, but I didn't know the result would be this bad. But it probably showed the feeling that President Lee and Representative Han Dong-hoon should not have met if the aftermath of the beginning and the end were to be like this, not only to me but to the people as well.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: If you say it's afterthought, is it afterthought of CEO Han Dong-hoon?

◇ Kim Jae-won: It's the end of the whole solitary confinement. So usually, if the president and the ruling party leader meet and trust each other, there is no backstory like this, but there is a backstory. Whether you drink tea or talk about something that day, we're having a similar emotional fight. In fact, there has been a fear that conservative divisions will begin with this solitary confinement.

◆Bae Seung-hee: As a way to resolve the issue related to Mrs. Kim Gun-hee, CEO Han Dong-hoon came out with a special inspector. Floor leader Choo Kyung-ho drew the line, saying it was a floor issue, but wasn't he there? How was it?

◇Kim Jae-won: But now that Han Dong-hoon is the leader of the party and is in charge of the party affairs in general, he said that the general manager of the party is either inside or outside the floor. In fact, the fact that Uri has elected a separate floor leader and established a two-top system is the achievement of democracy in the party for a long time. However, it was in 2005 that the party's innovation committee was established, and the chairman of the innovation committee was a member of Hong Joon Pyo, which made it a two-top system for the party's leader and floor leader. At that time, the chairman of the Hong Joon Pyo Innovation Committee made the floor leader virtually the same level as the party leader, gave the floor leader the highest authority to operate the National Assembly, and made the policy committee chairman his running mate to select him with the policy committee chairman, which was because of the reflection that our party failed twice in the presidential election due to the implementation of a party president or a party leader before the imperial presidency. But now, it is a bit of a problem to look back on the operation of the party that created the two-top system at that time. So, for 20 years, our party has actually been in charge of the situation of the floor, that is, all matters that should be voted on in the National Assembly or voted on in the National Assembly, and the constitution of the party is also the constitution of the party. Even in the party constitution, the floor leader has the responsibility and authority as the representative of a negotiating group and has the highest authority regarding the operation of the National Assembly. The fact that the name "Best" itself means that if the party leader and the floor leader's authority collide on this part, the floor leader takes precedence. So what floor leader Choo Kyung-ho just said is that in order to appoint a special inspector, the power of the Democratic Party and the people must elect three candidates in the National Assembly as a negotiating group. In electing, a candidate is usually chosen from the people's power, a candidate from the Democratic Party, and a candidate from the ruling and opposition parties, and three candidates are elected by the National Assembly, which requires the floor leader to be elected through a resolution at the general meeting of the lawmakers.The general meeting of lawmakers Na is the decision-making body with the highest authority in decision-making, and this issue is connected to the election of directors of the North Korean Human Rights Foundation, and it has already been decided on the party's theory. Then CEO Han Dong-hoon raised a very complicated issue because it's not just about electing a special inspector, but because we're just electing a special inspector regardless of the issue of electing a director of the North Korean Human Rights Foundation, we're giving up the director of the North Korean Human Rights Foundation and negotiating with the Democratic Party of Korea. To tell you one more thing, after all, this is not something that can only be done by our party. In the end, the floor leader has to negotiate with the Democratic Party because one Democratic Party must be elected in combination with the power of the people. So even if the party leader tells the floor leader to negotiate two people in your negotiations and decide what we recommend one, he can't do it if the floor leader says it's difficult for the floor strategy. So, I want to do this after consulting with the floor leader in advance, but what is your opinion? Shouldn't you have agreed to do this and told me?

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see. But as you said, isn't CEO Han Dong-hoon outside the office? I think that's why there's a little friction yesterday. Is CEO Han Dong-hoon Park Jeong-ah's chief of staff? As they went around the standing committee together, even the Democratic Party members greeted them. In particular, a more controversial scene is that Han Dong-hoon greeted Democratic Party lawmakers while Ganghwa residents are crying and kneeling on their knees as a reference to the National Defense Commission. How do you see this scene?

◇Kim Jae-won: But usually during a parliamentary audit, lawmakers suffer day and night during the parliamentary audit, so the floor leader of the party makes a visit to encourage them. That's why the scene itself is not wrong and it's normal. Yesterday's scene was just a witness or reference testifying, and the other thing is that if you simply answer the question smoothly, you can be a little discouraged, but the situation was a little bad because the resident came in from the scene where he was kneeling and crying and cut off the pulse. At this time, representative Han Dong-hoon may not know because he has no experience in legislation, but it would have been nice if the people who are performing next to him said, "Let's go past this scene or go to another standing committee to look back and go in after this testimony." I think that wasn't a little immature. I think the people who practiced were inexperienced. Because CEO Han Dong-hoon may not have that experience. I would have simply attended the parliamentary audit as the attorney general and made remarks, but maybe even then, when the minister was responding at the parliamentary audit, the leaders of the ruling and opposition parties could have greeted me. But that scene was a bit disappointing yesterday.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Okay, I got it. I think CEO Han Dong-hoon will continue to carry out this special inspector in the future. There is also an interpretation that political life depends on this.

◇Kim Jae-won: I don't think so. Because the issue of the special inspector is not just a problem with the presidential office, it is a problem with the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party doesn't have much political benefit even if it agrees to a special inspector. This is because the Democratic Party of Korea is now demanding a special prosecutor law related to First Lady Kim Gun-hee, but if the ruling and opposition parties reach an agreement to elect a special inspector similar to the special inspector, the issue may be disturbed, and the second is that. In the end, the National Assembly conventionally elects three candidates. Then, at least one person is supposed to recommend it from the power of the people. Then, the Democratic Party of Korea recommends one person and the remaining three from the ruling and opposition parties, and the president appoints one of these three people. Then, from the point of view of the extremely violent presidential office, no matter how much the Democratic Party of Korea has nominated, the presidential office can appoint a candidate for recommendation of public power. In the past, Special Inspector Lee Seok-soo was also recommended by the ruling party at the time. Then, the Democratic Party will likely not agree to show that it has fulfilled the president's pledge and recommend or appoint a special prosecutor because this is off the table. In addition, the People's Power linked the special inspector to the appointment of a director of the North Korean Human Rights Foundation, and the eight-year-old North Korean Human Rights Act has not been implemented, giving up security issues and sticking to the special inspector, but if the Democratic Party of Korea does not agree, this is a matter of little practical benefit. Even if we start grandly, if the Democratic Party doesn't do it in the end, our party holds a general meeting of lawmakers to conduct a special inspection team, and just fights, and polls what's being said now to get out of the general meeting of lawmakers. It's no use if the Democratic Party doesn't do it. So I think that the issue of the special inspection team has become an issue that is not very feasible in my view.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: CEO Han Dong-hoon will also suffer. Are you talking about this?

◇Kim Jae-won: Now, it's a political issue, whether it's a hit or not, anyone can start with the process of the issue and how to finish the result.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I'd like to ask you about the National Assembly inspection of the Ministry of Science and Technology. The National Assembly has decided to file a complaint against the acting chairman of the Korea Communications Commission, Kim Tae-kyu, for insulting him during the adjournment. Acting President Kim says he won't apologize. How were you looking at this situation?

◇Kim Jae-won: Anyway, since the National Assembly and defense itself are in such a fight and a mess, I think there are various bad issues. Actually, the microphone is on even during adjournment. Answer. So, in the past, there were many times when they talked about bad things during the adjournment, and in the past, during the Lee Myung Bak administration, the foreign minister talked among themselves and spoke quite rudely against Rep. Chun Jung-bae at the time. Furthermore, the Minister of Foreign Affairs said that the National Assembly should be dissolved, but there was a big problem. And yesterday, he attacked someone for the two-word expression and pointed out the number 18. It came out like this, and then there was also a verbal abuse from a Democratic Party member who responded, and I hope this doesn't happen.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: So was it right for Acting President Kim to apologize?

◇Kim Jae-won: We have to apologize first to proceed to the next stage. And it's right not to apologize. Rather than this, it's better to facilitate the meeting and the people are watching.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Okay. CEO Han Dong-hoon also needs to resolve suspicions about Kim before CEO Lee Jae-myung's first trial. The Democratic Party of Korea responded by saying, "It should be resolved 15 days in advance, but it is rather unpleasant, and it is shameful ahead of the ruling and opposition parties' meeting." Why is this like that?

◇Kim Jae-won: By the way, I am mostly suspicious of various suspicions raised in relation to Mrs. Kim Gun-hee, and the Deutsche Motors stock price manipulation case has officially been cleared of charges. It is also a slightly flexible state that has decided whether to conduct a comeback investigation at the high prosecution if the accused appeals, but legally, it is a case that has been disposed of. However, the case related to Representative Lee Jae-myung is now found guilty, prosecuted, and is scheduled to be sentenced by a criminal trial, and Representative Lee Jae-myung is now on trial for a felony crime even after that, although the case of perjury in violation of the election law will be decided next month. Then, not only is the case of First Lady Kim Gun-hee and Representative Lee Jae-myung separate, but there is also a difference in gravity, and this has nothing to do with it at all. But I don't think it's very reasonable in itself because it's a specific date as if it's a crime on a similar level, so it can make a pretty bad impression on the people. But the Democratic Party is in a different position.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: However, the Democratic Party of Korea decided to vote on the first lady Kim Gun-hee's independent counsel law by submitting it to the National Assembly plenary session on the 14th. How do I look at this? Should I say it's a counterattack?

◇Kim Jae-won: The Democratic Party of Korea is now virtually predicting that Chairman Lee Jae-myung will be convicted and nullified, and everything is now decided by Chairman Lee Jae-myung and his aides rather than the Democratic Party to maintain leadership thereafter. So, on November 2nd, it is called a rally to condemn Kim Gun-hee, but in fact, there is also a rally that begins the impeachment atmosphere that begins to impeach President Yoon, and I think it is part of that. Isn't it the last struggle to focus on everything and live your life?

◆ Bae Seung-hee: That's right. That's all for today. So far, we have been with Kim Jae-won, the supreme council member of the People's Power. Thank you.

◇Kim Jae-won: Thank you.