[News fighting] Kim Jae-won said, "President Yoon's remarks are just an expression of opinion, not an interference in the election."

[YTN Radio News Fighting Bae Seunghee]
□ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (07:15 - 09:00)
□ Broadcast date and time: November 1, 2024 (Fri)
□ Host: Attorney Bae Seung-hee
□ Cast member: Kim Jae-won, member of the People's Power

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[YTN Radio <News Fighting, Bae Seunghee]> Please reveal that it's about the interview.

◆ Attorney Bae Seung-hee (hereinafter referred to as Bae Seung-hee): It's a news fighting bet. Friday begins with a time-to-be-news war to dig into and predict the second part of the news. Let's talk with Kim Jae-won, the supreme council member of the People's Power. Hello,

◇ Rep. Kim Jae-won of the People's Power (hereinafter referred to as Kim Jae-won): Hello.

◆ Bae Seunghee: Hello.

◇Kim Jae-won: It's a little hard. Situation

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I know. The Democratic Party of Korea held an emergency press conference yesterday and released a recording of the call between Myung Tae-kyun and President Yoon Suk Yeol. It was a recording of fostering Yoon Suk Yeol's presidential nomination. How did you like it?

◇Kim Jae-won: First of all, I think a lot of people are a little surprised. Even before the best start, we were still informed. MBC predicted that it would report like this and then the Democratic Party of Korea also announced that it would hold a press conference, so I was confused, but there was an important rumor in the meantime. But now that it's coming out, I'm a little surprised. In the party, the Democratic Party continues to make this argument to lead to impeachment, so it's a step like that. I personally think it's important for the conservative camp to prepare for and deal with this issue as a single team. Even so, there is a basic structure to topple the Yoon Suk Yeol government to avoid personal judicial punishment by Lee Jae-myung, and Lee Jae-myung has been constantly attempting to shorten the current president's term as a way to avoid his own judicial punishment.

◇ Kim Jae-won: I personally think that this should never be tolerated to flow in that direction.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes, but last time President Yoon Suk Yeol said he had not talked to Myung Tae-kyun on the phone since the primary, and I think many people would have been surprised by this explanation.

◇Kim Jae-won: That's actually what I told you about being surprised. That's a painful point.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: But the presidential office explained again, "I just said it in a good way because I was the president-elect." It's a good thing to say,

◇ Kim Jae-won: I think that's possible. Of course, I think it can be, and it can be to a degree that the president clearly cannot remember. However, from the perspective of many of our supporters and party members, it is a little surprising that the actual development is now revealed.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. But I don't think Myung Taekyun reported it. When I played the recording of Myung Tae Gyun on the phone, a third party recorded it and reported it on the spot. It looks like this. What do you think?

◇Kim Jae-won: If you look at it on the report now, I think they're saying, "Isn't it someone who got a job as a driver of Myung Tae-kyun or Kim Young-sun?" How would I know? However, looking at this incident, I think there is no such thing as this. In the case of former lawmaker Kim Young-sun, isn't he aware of the fact that the president helped the president nominate the party? Regardless of the actual nomination process, that's how they perceive themselves, and such a person will not be nominated in the last general election, so aren't they the ones who decorated the maneuver at Chilbulsa Temple to reveal that Kim Gun-hee was trying to help the nomination in the process? In the meantime, how much have you been selling Mrs. Kim Gun-hee? I've heard that personally. Such a person is continuing a bizarre revelation and threatening again by claiming 2,000, 3,000, and 5,000 text messages from the person who said he would never forget grace in the recording, saying that he would reveal it based on his message with First Lady Kim Gun-hee and damage the people's power in the general election. I've expressed it before, but it looks like a hostage situation. On top of that, a woman named Kang Hye-kyung, who worked with Myung Tae-kyun and later served as an employee of former lawmaker Kim Young-sun, is continuing a rare revelation. I recorded all of them, thousands of audio files, and another person who just appeared is Mr. Kim. Some people say Mr. A. I don't know if it's him or not, but I record this to reveal whether it's one person or another. I've never seen such an active drama before. I've never seen such a bizarre play before, and I wonder if this is the world where people live. So, from what I can tell you so far, I don't know what kind of horrible results will come out in the future, and I don't know how surprising we will be.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: The presidential office immediately made a statement. At that time, the candidates who decided on the nomination were Lee Joon-seok, the party leader, and Yoon Sang-hyun, the chairman of the mission committee. Rep. Lee Joon-seok protested, saying, "Is it an excuse to sell me on Facebook? There is no such thing." What do you think of the situation at that time?

◇Kim Jae-won: But in principle, it's true. Of course, the nomination was made by the party and the nomination management committee made the decision, and the explanations that lawmaker Yoon Sang-hyun did not even contact the president for not reporting to him are. Now, it's not that question, it's that question, it's that the presidential development is reported rather than how the nomination was made, so now

◆ Bae Seung-hee: You're surprised.

◇ Kim Jae-won: He's making a controversy.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: By the way. What about you, Myung Taekyun? The released transcript is part of the transcript, and all the intermediate contents are missing. The party will take care of all the intermediate contents. How did you hear this story?

◇Kim Jae-won: However, hasn't another record of Myung-tae Kim been released that says he fell in the middle? Since recordings other than those known so far will continue to come out today, it's a process where the puzzle continues to be put together. So, I don't really trust what he says, so I don't think there's any need to argue with that now.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: The Democratic Party has announced another revelation. Other recordings show that President Yoon's remarks were made by Kim. The National Assembly Steering Committee is conducting a parliamentary audit of the presidential office today, but is there a high possibility that another recording will be released?

◇ Kim Jae-won: How do we actually know? But looking at it now, isn't there thousands of recordings that appear to have already been delivered to the Democratic Party by a person named Kang Hye-kyung? And now it turns out that the source of the recording is that there is another person who provides it. And Myung-tae Kim also claims how much he has, so he can't know. How would you make a prediction?

◆ Bae Seung-hee: But the pro-Yoo community said that this is not a reason for impeachment. The opposition party judged that the president's remarks on the nomination were illegal in the transcript. this impeachment is not a reason for

◇Kim Jae-won: I don't think it's a reason for impeachment either. When the president commits an offense while in office, it can be said to be a reason for impeachment, and the first is not an act while in office. The second is whether this is a violation of the election law, and the president's opinion on the nomination itself is an election planning act under the election law, so I don't think that's the case. It's not an election reform, and it's not an act of involvement in the nomination. Since there was no primary itself, and if President Moon Jae In presented pledges and adjusted investigations to win the election during the Ulsan mayoral election, I believe it is an act of election interference and illegal act by the president. However, it is quite likely that the party expressed its opinion as a member of the party's nomination committee, so the question of whether the president was a public official at the time of the act is a side controversy, and I don't think this is an illegal act because I don't think it was a part of the election interference under the election law.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Even opposition parties below Cho Kuk's representative Cho Kuk Innovation Party are united by impeachment, but Daegu Mayor Hong Joon Pyo pointed out that this incident seems to be a big expense before impeachment. How do you see it?

◇ Kim Jae-won: That's why you're talking about it from your own perspective, so I don't want to mention all of those things, but I don't agree with what Representative Cho Kuk is saying at all. And representative Cho Kuk is the one who has to go to prison soon when he is sentenced to the Supreme Court.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: He's been sentenced to prison.

◇ Kim Jae-won: That's why they claim it now for their own safety and because it's a story that Lee Jae-myung claims as one of the ways to avoid such judicial punishment because he is scheduled to be sentenced to a heavy sentence. I don't think I need to listen.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Anyway, as the president-elect, he thinks that he can give enough opinions on nominations, whether it be a mission or a party.

◇Kim Jae-won: Rather than being elected. Everyone has a lot of opinions about nominations. Now, however, it is a violation of election laws by government officials whether they used their position to participate in election planning or instruct or implement election planning, or soliciting elections to win certain parties or candidates, such as former President Roh Moo Hyun's remarks encouraging Uri candidates to vote just because he wants a lot of Uri to be elected, which is an act of election interference. He used his position to interfere in the election, but he didn't plan the election or ask for a specific candidate to be photographed. That's why it can't be said that a public official used his position to interfere in the election. Of course, it's an act before the inauguration of the president, so he's not even a public servant. However, there is already a precedent that even if you are a public official, this kind of behavior is nothing more than an expression of opinion because you keep saying that you are a public official. That's why I told you legally.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: By the way, this so-called pollack gate has become the so-called pollack gate. Do you think President Lee's office responded appropriately yesterday?

◇ Kim Jae-won: I want the president's office to respond more actively in the future, and I don't know well about what's going on, so I don't know whether I responded properly or not.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: You can't judge whether the presidential office's response has been appropriate or not.

◇Kim Jae-won: Because I don't know what's going on here, but I don't know if the response went well or not.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. Still, there has been no response from the presidential office so far.

◇Kim Jae-won: Anyway, this is

◆ Bae Seung-hee: What about the part that you explained as an enemy?

◇Kim Jae-won: I think it's better to actively explain. But can't this be a serious problem if the problem is explained and the facts change in the future? What I also expressed as surprising is that it's a problem because it's different from the explanation. But it's a question of whether we can know the facts. So I don't think I'm in a position to evaluate that.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. Anyway, from the president's point of view, many people call me before the election, so I think it was one of them.

◇ Kim Jae-won: As I said before, did the president call around the day before his inauguration or the president-elect one or two times? So I think there's a very high possibility that you won't remember. However, from the public's point of view, it can be surprising if it differs from the explanation so far. Now, I'm afraid that I told you.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Okay. I don't think CEO Han Dong-hoon has made a position. Han Dong-hoon still insists on the special inspector. Opposition parties pointed out that representative Han Dong-hoon's special inspector pointed out that he made a mistake. What do you think?

◇Kim Jae-won: That's right. Before yesterday's situation, CEO Han Dong-geun insisted on a special inspector and proposed a special inspector to solve his own problem, but the situation has changed a little since yesterday, hasn't it? I think we need to wait and see CEO Han Dong-geun's personal judgment on how to judge like that. Personally, I think the situation has changed a bit.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: The Special Inspector General should stop insisting. Like this

◇Kim Jae-won: It's not a matter of stopping arguing, but I think it's right to wait and see how CEO Han Dong-hoon will judge now that the situation has changed a bit. Yes.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Okay.

◇Kim Jae-won: I don't think it's a situation to discuss with us

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Senior members of the National Power of the Special Inspector General opposed that it should not be decided by a vote.

◇Kim Jae-won: I don't think we're in a situation to vote now.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: There won't be a general meeting of lawmakers. Like this

◇ Kim Jae-won: That's right. I don't think we're at the stage where we're going to continue talking about this special inspection team issue and have a controversy within the party and vote.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Representative Lee Jae-myung is currently on four trials, and isn't there a major sentence ahead in the middle of this month? However, CEO Lee Jae-myung continues to meet with conservative managers such as Kim Jong-in, Lee Sang-don, and Yoon Yeo-jun and show their outward expansion. If convicted, would this move of foreign exchange expansion be meaningful?

◇Kim Jae-won: Now CEO Lee Jae-myung seems to judge that the justice department will be affected if he shows that he can become president and that he is actually the president of Yeouido. And I also think that could affect the court. So, like President Yeouido, I think I'm trying to give the impression that I'm the president of the nation by forming a shadow cooperative net and meeting people who have already worked in the conservative camp to be like a national leader, not just the party leader of the Democratic Party. In the end, I think this is also an idea to escape from one's own judicial danger. In other words, I'm not confident of being found innocent. So, I think you may think that even if you are convicted, you may be able to receive such punishment that does not constitute an invalid election sentence. But the issue is very important. So I don't think such a result will ever come out.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see. Will CEO Han Dong-hoon hold a meeting with CEO Lee Jae-myung before the November sentencing? Shall we?

◇ Kim Jae-won: The situation is very urgent right now, so how can I know what will happen? We don't discuss it with each other.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: You mean you don't know because the CEO didn't discuss it. I've been hearing about Myeongtaegyo since today. I think I have to stop here today.

◇Kim Jae-won: Yes, thank you.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: That's all for the news. So far, we have been with Kim Jae-won, the supreme council member of the People's Power. I'll come back to the third part after the second part. Thank you.