[News Fighting] Ahn Cheol Soo "Resolving Protocol Conflicts, Compromising by Reducing the Number of Regular Times in 2025"

[YTN Radio News Fighting Bae Seunghee]
□ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (07:15 - 09:00)
□ Broadcast date and time: November 05, 2024 (Tue)
□ Host: Attorney Bae Seung-hee
□ Starter: Rep. Kim Ahn Cheol Soo, People's Power, Rep.

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◆ Attorney Bae Seung-hee (hereinafter referred to as Bae Seung-hee): I'm Bae Seung-hee from News Fighting. We will continue with the fourth part of the issue interview. President Yoon Suk Yeol has expressed his willingness to complete the four reforms ahead of the halfway point in his term. However, the approval rating, an indicator of state administration power, is at its lowest level every day. In this regard, I will connect and talk to Ahn Cheol Soo's National Power Member. Hello,

◇ Member for the Power of the People of Ahn Cheol Soo (hereinafter referred to as the Ahn Cheol Soo): Yes, hello.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: President Yoon Suk Yeol emphasized in his speech yesterday that the four major reforms are a desperate task. At the same time, I encouraged them to produce reform results within the year. How did you like it?

◇ Ahn Cheol-soo: I want to tell you about three simple things. In fact, first, the three major reforms, such as education pension and labor, should have been made at the beginning of the term. I should have done it when I had the most power. But isn't it difficult to start over two and a half years later and gain momentum for reform with a 10% approval rating? So what I'd like to suggest is, first of all, the three major tasks that the government has to do. The first three tasks require sincere apologies from the president, and the second is to change the state administration's stance that puts people's livelihood first, and the third is that since everything is done by people, we need to show personnel innovation and gain public trust again to secure a driving force for reform. Secondly, when I was in the transition committee for the presidency, there was no review or report on medical reform at all. However, as a result of this, it is actually an excess death because it has already wasted trillions of state funds and is heading for medical collapse. There is also an unofficial statistics that there are more than 2,000 people who would not die if this had not happened. So, if it's difficult to stop or make a soft landing, we should solve this problem. I'm thinking that this problem could lead to the collapse of the regime, so I need to solve it urgently. The third is the revision of the law, so cooperation from the majority opposition party is essential now. So if we show sincerity in persuasion, compromise, and agreement, wouldn't the opposition party be abandoned by the people? I think that's the way it should be approached.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: You apologized. What specifically should I apologize for? President Yoon.

◇ Ahn Cheol-soo: Actually, no matter how difficult it is, isn't it scheduled for the 7th? So I think it's a very good judgment to tell the people as soon as possible. Honestly, I made a wrong judgment on certain points there. I'm going to fix these parts. I believe that if we approach them sincerely like this, the people will give us another chance.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Are you talking about not only the Kim Gun-hee issue but also the personnel reform of the staff? That's right. Even now, some within the ruling party have criticized the absence of this speech. Do I have to attend the speech?

◇ Ahn Cheol-soo: I think it should have been. In fact, the National Assembly does the speech at the municipal administration, but the target is the people. So if the president himself asks for an understanding of next year's budget, wouldn't the people form a consensus? Then it puts pressure on you, so you can get better cooperation from the opposition. However, since I did not attend this time, I think I gave the opposition party an excuse to nitpick this and that in the budget situation, so I am worried that it will be a tough budget situation in the future.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: But some say. It was also pointed out in media editorials that the opposition party did not shake hands even if they attended, and booed the president. There's also a part where we think we should have been polite to each other. Can we blame the president unconditionally?

◇ Ahn Cheol-soo: That's an appropriate point. Nevertheless, if you think that it is a place to communicate directly with the people and deal with that firmly, it may be an opportunity for the people to increase their trust in the president. That's why I'm a little disappointed.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see. I can't help but ask about this legislative conflict. CEO Han Dong-hoon. It has announced that it will launch a parliamentary consultative body between the ruling and opposition parties soon. If the opposition party does not participate, we will start at least the Yeouido Council. It's this kind of policy. Can this consultative body resolve the conflict?

◇ Ahn Cheol-soo: In short, I don't see any results with the current composition. There are two reasons for the root cause of the medical crisis. Medical students take a leave of absence from school, and doctors resign and do not go to the hospital. So I have to persuade these two groups, so I have to come into this council, but I'm not willing to come in. So if these two groups are not included, in fact, the opposition party has nothing to do with it. It is the most important new participants that these two organizations and the government consult, and if these two, medical students and medical doctors, are excluded, no matter what the conclusion is, they will not listen and have any effect.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Then, the medical community is now insisting on a review of the origin of the 2025 school year. The government is still in a position that it is impossible to modify the number of medical schools next year. In the end, the medical community should not select at all in 2025. There are even claims like this. How do I solve this medical school quota problem?

◇Ahn Cheol-soo: Actually, since this story first came out in February of this year, I've been interviewing and writing more than 100 times. But isn't the entrance examination going on now? So, even if we can't do the occasional admission that's going on right now, why don't we compromise with each other in that way by reducing the number of regular students?

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. But I think a lot of people might not understand.

◇ Ahn Cheol-soo: Actually, the biggest problem now is that there are 7,500 first graders. If you educate 3,000 people and 7,500 people, you can't do it in the auditorium, but that's possible in the humanities community. Ideally, practicing in medical school is a group of 8 people, seeing various wounds closely, and practicing with the patient to become a good doctor. So if there are no educational facilities prepared now, and suddenly the number of people increases from 3,000 to 7,500, education cannot be done properly. But if you give these people a medical license, they actually deal with drugs as well as human life. So it's very dangerous. If we add 1,500 more people this time, but we don't have enough skills, so no matter how hard we try, the educational conditions are not possible, so if we fail the doctor's notice six years later, we will rather have a doctor. Then there's going to be a skepticism about why we've done this while spending so much social chaos and money. So it is necessary to make a soft landing as soon as possible.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: But aren't there some medical students who have already entered the school? According to these medical students and their majors, there is a big age difference and grade difference. But for the new students, it's not a school in Seoul, but it's a very small medical school in the provinces. Why do we have to do this with this?

◇ Ahn Cheol-soo: I talked about it myself. But among the lawmakers, I'm meeting students. I've talked about students' majors, and definitely, the MZ generation or the 2030 generation has a very different way of thinking than the older generation. For example, wasn't there a lot of backlash when you said you were going to make a joint ice hockey team at the PyeongChang Olympics? It's very unfair. Therefore, the sensitivity to the process is very high, and the concept of the process is very different from the older generation and the current generation in their 20s and 30s. But the same goes for medical students now. Medical students worked hard to come in under the existing rules. But then suddenly, the number of people goes up to 3,000, so it's almost two-thirds more. So I think this is very unfair.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: There must be a kind of selfish gaze.

◇Ahn Cheol-soo: Anyway, I think this happened because the government hasn't been able to consider it carefully or communicate with them in advance.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: The second one is. As you said now, you said to reduce the regular admissions even if it is the case, but if we reduce the number of regular admissions, won't medical students and parents preparing for regular admissions be expected to protest?

◇ Ahn Cheol-soo: Yes, of course. But we only have one of two choices right now. One is whether to leave the medical system broken or risk the damage to parents preparing for the regular admissions now, but in the end, there is a huge loss for the country. But I think this medical system is a matter of people dying and living, and now the education system is a matter of students' living and living, so I think we should normalize the medical system, which is a matter of dying and living, and instead use various methods such as giving preferential treatment to these students who may suffer some damage this time.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. I'd like to ask you more specifically about your voice on the spot, but I don't have time today, so I'll move on to another part. Representative Han Dong-hoon called for a public apology to President Yoon Suk Yeol and a reshuffle of the government. The presidential office is already preparing a second annex to manage Kim Gun-hee's schedule and message. Will the appointment of Han Dong-hoon as a special inspector related to Mrs. Kim Gun-hee and the second annex of Mrs. Kim Gun-hee be able to resolve the risks of Mrs. Kim?

◇ Ahn Cheol-soo: First of all, the day after tomorrow is important. The president will hold a press conference on the 7th, so we can hear the direction then. Now, as I want, don't the people have some expectations right now? But more than that, special measures are needed. Therefore, if we stop at such answers or measures at the expected level, public sentiment will worsen. So, a representative of the president asked for some items. In fact, it is more than that, so if the ruling and opposition parties agree on Kim Gun-hee's independent counsel, they can receive it. You have to take it one step further to win the public's hearts.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Aren't you in a position where the independent counsel is also in favor of it?

◇ Ahn Cheol-soo: But I'm against that Democratic Party. So, isn't that the purpose of the special prosecution is to make the truth clear and transparent with important cases that the people have suspicions about? So if you have any suspicions about Mrs. Kim Gun-hee, then you should try to solve this. The reason is that if you don't do this, fake news is flooding these days, so if you leave it alone, it will do more harm than good. In fact, if you look at the Democratic Party like this, there are so many items that I don't even know. The appointment of a few more special prosecutors is also biased toward the Democratic Party of Korea, so it is impossible to play its original role of revealing the truth in a neutral and objective manner. In short, I'm against the current Democratic Party of Korea and it should be neutral through agreement between the ruling and opposition parties. That's what I have in mind.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: But the first ladies of the former President Lee, Kim Jung-sook, are constantly being talked about.Isn't it only one thing that can't be investigated right now? Then, about Kim Jung-sook, there are already suspicions that have already been revealed in the past, so do we just wait for the general investigation?

◇ Ahn Cheol-soo: It's also a way to discuss that together.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Another option is to discuss it as an independent counsel.

◇ Ahn Cheol-soo: In the process of reaching agreements with each other, we can actually compromise each other and discuss each other.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: You mean that Kim Jung-sook's independent counsel is also possible.

◇ Ahn Cheol-soo: We can probably come to a conclusion as we discuss it.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see. The transcripts of President Lee Yoon Suk Yeol and Myung Tae-kyun have been released. The Democratic Party of Korea helped former lawmaker Kim Young-sun to nominate him as a close friend of President Yoon and his wife. That's what I'm claiming. How did you feel after listening to it?

◇ Ahn Cheol-soo: In fact, I think it's necessary to check the facts first on that part. And if that's true, doesn't everyone know that it's not appropriate? So I will investigate and announce now whether it is a violation of the positive law, but I am sorry for causing concern to the people regardless of the facts even before that. I think it would be better for the president to apologize first on the 7th.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. If I apologize, will I move on? Wouldn't it lead to the Democratic Party's political offensive?

◇ Ahn Cheol-soo: We can't let it go, but it will have the effect of soothing the public's public sentiment.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see. Regarding Myung Tae-kyun, Myung Tae-kyun says that there are no more transcripts to be released with Kim Gun-hee. What do you think?

◇ Ahn Cheol-soo: I think it's completely unbelievable because there are so many comments coming and going. But you might suddenly get hurt because you don't prepare because you don't have anything else to come out of. I think it's the government and the ruling party's job to thoroughly prepare and investigate everything and reveal the truth.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see. In some opposition parties. Using this recording as an excuse, I am now struggling with my disability. I'm not saying this, but the resignation movement is eventually linked to the impeachment movement. How did you see this outdoor rally?

◇ Ahn Cheol-soo: I think impeachment is hard to happen. So you've experienced it before, haven't you? After all, it takes a very long time for the conservative camp to collapse and recover. But if one camp in a democracy collapses, isn't this actually very undesirable for the development of democracy? So I don't think this should happen.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: However, since President Yoon Suk Yeol took office, the campaign to impeach the president has been continuing, should this be seen as part of his objection to the presidential election?

◇ Ahn Cheol-soo: That's what I think. 0. There is only a 73% difference, so what would the other side say about that? You might think so, but democracy is not like that, is it? If you win even one vote, you will accept it, and now we all work together to further develop the country, isn't that the election system of democracy? Everyone expects that the U.S. will show a very close result, but I think we should do the same as the U.S. will continue to move forward without wavering once it is decided like this.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. There are also a lot of unsettling factors in the United States regarding this early voting. I think it will affect Korea depending on who will be the presidential election in the United States. If Trump becomes Trump, will our defense expenses be okay?

◇Ahn Cheol-soo: Actually, that's the first question I asked during the parliamentary audit. So, our country was too biased toward the Democratic Party of the United States, so we put forward various policies, but Japan has already been preparing for the possibility of becoming Trump since last year. After researching, that's why we're very poor in preparation compared to Japan. So, from now on, it is appropriate to discuss various expected parts in advance through the embassy and through parliamentary diplomacy with people who will be in such important positions. I think that's the way to minimize losses for our country. The biggest concern is that President Trump does not value this alliance so much compared to Harris. But isn't the treaties on sharing defense costs already over in anticipation of such things? So maybe there are some limitations.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Now North Korea continues to provoke ICBMs. How should I take it?

◇ Ahn Cheol-soo: I think North Korea's system is becoming very unstable right now. And in fact, as sanctions continue in various ways, they can almost run out of foreign currency, so in fact, they are sending mercenaries. I sent a mercenary and now I'm going to the Ukraine war, but I'm also worried because we're close to Iran, so I heard that there's a possibility that this could be connected to the Israeli side. So what we have to be fully prepared is what we have to do. We don't just sit back and watch, but we have to do various things that can strengthen our defense capabilities.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Okay. We looked at a lot of stories today. Senator, thank you.

◇ Ahn Cheol-soo: Yes, thank you.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes, I was the member of the People's Power of Ahn Cheol Soo.