North Korean River Slap Murder, Profiler, "The Criminals Use Unique Murder Techniques Trained by Special Forces"

YTN Radio (FM 94.5) [YTN News FM Wise Radio Life]
□ Broadcast Date: November 5, 2024 (Tue)
□ Host: Announcer Park Gui-bin
□ Castor: Bae Sang-hoon Profiler

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◆ Announcer Park Gui-bin (hereinafter referred to as Park Gui-bin): It is 2:46 p.m. on the 2nd. A part of the body, believed to be a human leg, surfaced on the Bukhangang River in Hwacheon, Gangwon Province. The body of the dismembered murder victim has been revealed, adding to the shock. The suspect was an active military officer in his late 30s. The victim was a female military officer in her 30s who worked in the same unit. There are many questions that cannot be solved because the inside story of the case is not disclosed in detail. Let's call the profiler Bae Sang-hoon to talk about the details of the case. Hello, profiler.

◇ Sang-hoon profiler (hereinafter referred to as Sang-hoon): Yes, hello.

◆Park Gui Bin: We have another incident like this. I'm a little sad to tell you such terrible events every day. Please briefly explain this incident.

◇ Sang-hoon: The perpetrator is scheduled to be promoted to an active army lieutenant colonel. It is estimated that he is in his late 30s. As it is known, he is a member of the Cyber Operations Command in Gwacheon, and the victim is a term civil servant in his early 30s who works there. At the end of October, the term is over, and the relationship between the two is not being discussed now, but I think there are probably many things to do with it and the crime has now occurred in the afternoon of the 25th. So, there was a quarrel in the criminal's car, and after strangling him to death, he now damaged it that night, and the next day, he dumped the body at a nearby construction site in Gwacheon, he said. After that, the body was found on the 2nd and the arrested criminal was arrested immediately.

◆Park Gui-bin: So, according to the criminal now on the 25th, the incident occurred on the 25th and the body was found on the 2nd. That's why the body came to mind in a week. After that, the arrest was made within a day. I think he was arrested a little earlier than I thought.

◇ Sang-hoon: Because I don't know the culprit right now. There are some mistakes made by the criminal, and there are some very good parts of our scientific investigation. When the criminal dumped the body in a plastic bag and wrapped the tape, his fingerprint was printed on it. The reason is that usually these criminals often forget a certain level of arousal about their behavior and then a little bit of it. So it appears in middle-level psychopathic criminals, and it's likely that this is the case now, but that's why we don't recognize our mistakes. However, since CSI know such characteristics well, it is highly likely that the suspect's identity was identified faster than the victim's if the inside of the tape was directly under a light microscope and then checked immediately. So, when the criminal's fingerprint came out and his identity came out, he identified himself right there and went and checked, and the victim and the missing part appeared upside down, and now the criminal was arrested right away.

◆Park Gui-bin: I see. In the case of victims, according to the report, the body was not in such a bad state that they quickly identified it, and all the bodies have been raised in three days. Let's take a look at the story told through the criminal's words so far. We argued here about the reason for the crime. So I killed him out of rage. It's said that he said this, but can this be seen as an accidental crime? Or is that an argument?

◇ Sang-hoon: Is anyone out of their mind strangling a colleague who used to work with him in their car for being enraged? That's just to reduce the sentence, so to speak, or to interfere with the investigation. Of course, there's a motive. However, if you talk about the motive, there is a disadvantage in your trial or investigation, so to say that you committed the crime out of anger without saying anything is just saying. I think there must be a separate motive. I think it will be revealed during the trial, but this is what I'm most concerned about. The most difficult part can arise if it is a type of violent murder in a textbook about a contractual public official commonly referred to by active full-time army officers. I doubt that the most.

◆Park Gui-bin: The profiler is doubting the situation right now. When this incident was known, of course, the damaged bodies came to mind one by one, and the situation itself was so shocking, but it was the identity of the criminal that was revealed after the criminal was caught. First of all, I'm an active military officer in my late 30s. Isn't a soldier basically an important position in charge of national security? The first shock was that the soldier who was obliged to protect the lives of the people was the culprit, and the second was that the victim died on October 25, and the suspect reported his transfer to the Seoul unit, which was transferred on the 28th, and lived a casual life. Don't you honestly feel anxious in your daily life in this case? Is it possible that you don't mind?

◇ Sang-hoon: I think that there's now a difference in how accessible you were to the body for that death. I am most likely an elite officer in the Special Forces when I first met in Songpa and Gwacheon and talked about cyber operations. Lt. Col. in their mid-to-late 30s is the front rank among those from the military academy.

◆Park Gui-bin: But now it's coming out that this person is not from the army.

◇ Sang-hoon: So now that's not yet the case, so what I'm saying is that it's just an example because it's a very fast promotion.

◆ Park Gui-bin: He said he was about to be promoted to lieutenant colonel.

◇ Sang-hoon: That's right. Since a lieutenant colonel is scheduled to be promoted, he will be a lieutenant colonel next year.

◆Park Gui-bin: It's a very high class.

◇ Sang-hoon: Of course. So now, if you say you went up very fast, you're a very elite officer. Can there be a problem with whether an elite officer can belittle a state officer or a life officer like this? If that happens, whether this person has a problem with his or her position or this, it is clear that the Ministry of National Defense misses something in managing the officer's psychology. Because it doesn't make sense for an elite officer to just kill someone with nothing and then damage them like that? Then, it proves that the psychological management of elite generals is actually a little poor. I think that's for sure. So, obviously, the victim also moved to Songpa at the end of October, so even if there was a fear in that respect, that may not have appeared.

◇ Sang-hoon: Because the situation has changed, I think we need to look at that clearly.

◆Park Gui-bin: If you look at the place where the murder happened, it's a parking lot in the unit. And I woke up in broad daylight. It comes out at 3 p.m. Honestly, isn't it a place where you can see well in broad daylight? Of course, it happened in the car, but in fact, I think it would be weird if you planned to kill or did it. What do you think?

◇ Sang-hoon: That's right. The most obvious thing to look at, as the anchor said, is that he quickly and quickly decided something after killing in the parking lot of his unit where he works, where he can be seen by others, is that his mental state is in a very dangerous state. No matter how much a person is a murder technician, it is difficult to kill easily where the person's eyes are. So what I was worried about in the beginning was that this person killed so quickly and decided to abandon the game so quickly that I needed to see his mental state clearly. So it's definitely possible to assume that there's something hidden, unlike any motive you're talking about.

◆Park Gui-bin: Didn't you mention special forces earlier while pointing out this person's working area like this?

◇ Sang-hoon: Because cyber operators may be involved in the intelligence service, there may also be related units in Songpa. Since I've been working in Hwacheon for a long time, it might be a national secret, but if you link these three, people who've been in the military will feel it. It's kind of like this. So I definitely have some doubts about whether it was easy to kill.

◆Park Gui-bin: If you call murder your unit, each unit has its own characteristics. You expressed that it would be difficult to kill. What do you mean?

◇ Sang-hoon: Like, for example. Aren't there some groups that are specially trained? For example, I'm not saying that special forces and these people are bad, but if I say that they are highly trained, I think the psychological management of officers in that unit is a little poor.

◆Park Gui-bin: In fact, in the unit, these people are in a position where they have to deal with the enemy when they face it anyway, so they will also receive such special training. Don't you take care of your mind at that time?

◇Bang Sang-hoon: We don't get that in. Because we're well-trained in how to subdue the so-called enemy in a state where the North and the South are very close to each other and sensitive. However, when it is done against civilians, psychology and education on the part are lacking in many areas. So, in fact, these things have to be managed by the military police or the Jeonghun Division. You have to use it against the enemy, but you shouldn't use it against civilians, right? That's a given. But after this happens, the Ministry of National Defense or some departments that manage it don't say anything. This means there's a problem. Then, whether there's something wrong with this person's job management or psychological management, or whether it's an individual's problem, a real psychopath or such a dangerous patient goes to middle age. Isn't that a problem when you're the battalion commander?

◆Park Gui-bin: I see.

◇ Sang-hoon: So I think we need to explain this. After the cyber operations command or the Army involved in the Pentagon somehow managed to brutally kill a civil servant after a lieutenant colonel killed him with no qualms... Don't you think this needs some explanation?

◆Park Gwi-bin: I see what you mean. It could be this person's personal problem, of course. It could be a personal matter, but for now, wouldn't this person have served in the military for about 10 years? He's more than a lieutenant colonel now. If a lieutenant colonel is scheduled to be promoted, then the training that has been received so far, this is not a training for the general public, but it is mixed with personal feelings and uses the training for the general public. This can be a really big problem, so I think you pointed out that part, and what I'm curious about is that this person said he was an accidental crime, but didn't he damage the body anyway after killing him? After I damaged it, I even put in stone. I put money in the plastic bag and dropped it in the water, and there was also a comment like this. Isn't this a military officer on the victim's cell phone? He sent a message to the unit he worked with asking him to take care of his vacation. How do you see this?

◇ Sang-hoon: Too premeditated. In order to avoid too premeditated and so-called alibi, the victim sent a fake text as if he were alive, and the degree of damage was slightly different from that of the damage through the incision, and the damage beyond it is different in planning and psychological state. From our point of view, the scope is not cut, but the next step has been taken, so the degree of damage is very severe. Actually, that's why the body came to mind. I won't tell you because it's too cruel for me to tell you specifically, but the reason why I came to mind in three days is because of that. He added "do" to it. It's a person who knows what this is. You don't usually do that when you damage it and put it in.

◆Park Gui-bin: You're saying that I damaged it, but I put the stone in consideration of the possibility that it could come to mind if I did something wrong, right?

◇ Sang-hoon: That's right. But now that's the part that comes to mind because it's excessive. So, this is not just accidental, but there are three plans that I just mentioned that there is definitely planning. Can I just say that I just wanted it to come to my mind? So what I'm a little concerned about is that he's not just talking about this in the parking lot, but he's also suspecting that he planned it in the first place. I don't know this easily and quickly.

◆Park Gwibin: I see. Although the body was damaged, the National Forensic Service said that it was not in a very corrupt situation. Can I get some meaningful evidence from that?

◇ Sang-hoon: This feeling can appear depending on what I said earlier and how you did it. Then it will be fully reflected in the trial. It can vary depending on how you speculated. Then before that, for example, if you say that you only strangled yourself, but in fact, if there was torture or something like that, this is accidental and completely different.

◆Park Gui-bin: We have to reveal that in the National Forensic Service's appraisal.

◇ Sang-hoon: Yes. It can come out.

◆Park Gui-bin: This is a murder crime committed by an active-duty soldier. If this happens, where will the investigation be conducted? Is it done by the civilian police?

◇ Sang-hoon: The Military Organization Act was changed two years ago. The same goes for the part related to Sergeant Lee Ye-ram of the Air Force. So the murder-related part is done by the civilian police. That's why Hwacheon Police Station arrested this criminal even though he is an active army lieutenant colonel. So, investigations and trials are basically conducted in the private sector unlike before.

◆Park Gui-bin: I see. But if you apply the military criminal law rather than the general criminal law, don't you punish it more seriously?

◇ Sang-hoon: Not necessarily. Because now it's looking at the motive of murder and some kind of planning of murder, so it's not that different now. Because the tools are different. For example, if a gun is used, it's related to the military, but this is not that, but other bare hands.

◆Park Gui-bin: I heard they're going to review your personal information. I think we need to reveal it.

◇ Sang-hoon: I think it's necessary. Because if this criminal did this kind of murder or something like this, I think there would have been similar violence before. Then this person's face should be revealed, and if there was a similar form in the past, if they tell you that, it can be fully reflected in the trial. So I think that personal information must be disclosed, but I don't know what it will be like. Because when it comes to active-duty army lieutenant colonel, there's something like that. And in terms of victim-related areas, for example, they were not in the current state, but they were in a relationship. If you say it was like this, it's not going to be disclosed like the murder of a medical student in Gangnam. It may not be released that way. I think it should be revealed.

◆Park Gui-bin: I see. What level of punishment do you expect?

◇ Sang-hoon: Because it's simply accidental to keep insisting. Accidental killings are a little over 10 years old, and premeditated killings are almost double. So that's why this criminal keeps saying that he was accidentally strangled. I'm trying to get a sentence in less than 10 years.

◆Park Gui-bin: I see. The listener said, "It has nothing to do with the Special Forces. The criminal is just the devil. ’ You gave me a text like this, so of course. We're not saying that. So, we hope that this incident will not tarnish the reputation of active-duty soldiers who protect the lives and safety of the country and the people. However, since this person is a person who receives special training that the general public does not personally receive, we need to take a closer look at that part.

◇Bang Sang-hoon: It's not like special forces because you're a soldier, but of course, there are good special forces and there are a lot of great people.

◆Park Gui-bin: Everyone does that.

◇ Sang-hoon: If you use it as a murder technique to satisfy your individual desires, it must be revealed.

◆Park Gui Bin: That's right. That's why people like that must take care of them. That's what they said. Let's stop here. I'm Bae Sang Hoon profiler. Thank you.

◇ Sang-hoon: Thank you.