Jang Ye-chan, "尹, who doesn't have a corridor for the representative of the party..."Who's stopping Lee Junseok?"

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- 尹, did you pick up the phone yourself until the nomination of the head of the district office? the state of falling out of shape

[News FM Lee Ik-seon Choi Soo-young Issue & People]

□ Broadcast date and time: November 15, 2024 (Fri)
□ Host: Lee Ik-seon, Choi Soo-young
□ Performers: Kim Sung-wan, current affairs critic, Jang Ye-chan, the supreme council member for the power of the whole nation

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◇ Profit Line: Okay. Let's go with the second keyword of this week's top three. The second keyword is Lee Junseok's revelation.

◆Choi Soo-young: Myung Tae-kyun and former lawmaker Kim Young-sun were eventually arrested early this morning. However, Myung's lawyer said, "Myeong called President Yoon on the eve of his inauguration because Lee Joon-seok contacted him at 12 p.m.," adding, "Lee Jun-seok is the axis of evil." How do you think about this?

■Jang Ye-chan: Anyway, the investigation will gain momentum because Myung Tae-kyun and former lawmaker Kim Young-sun have been arrested. I think we have a lot of evidence. It is said that most of the KakaoTalk and messengers that Myung Tae-kyun has exchanged with key figures on the submitted PC have been stored and restored. However, from the prosecution's point of view, we need to look into everything to see what kind of crime or problem the person named Myung Tae-kyun caused. In the process, very close and in-depth relationships and discussions with Lee Joon-seok, a member of the New Reform Party, and Kim Jong-in, a former chairman of the emergency committee, are now coming out, so each other is raising issues that are a hot topic. So when I randomly asked what the core and essence of this problem is, I'm in a very awkward situation right now. If the prosecution wrapped it up quickly and arrested it, it would not take much time to prosecute the charges.

◇Lee Ik-seon: He said, "Let's live." If we talk more about representative Lee Joon-seok, I talked a lot to reporters yesterday. In addition to former lawmaker Kim Young-sun, there were reports that it was Kim Tae-woo, the former head of Gangseo-gu, who was mentioned here. It means that the president talked about this and that. On top of that, several people have been mentioned, such as whether it's better to give a mayor to someone else, and in the case of lawmaker Ahn Cheol Soo, shouldn't they nominate him for the Bundang by-elections? How does our critic Kim Sung-wan see this part?

□Kim Sung-wan: If you think about whether Myung Tae-kyun is behind it or not, President Yoon Suk Yeol has always intervened in the nomination process at every election, according to Rep. Lee Joon-seok. But what I don't understand is that the reason why the controversy over the nomination of former lawmaker Kim Young-sun grew was when he was elected. So, the transcript was released now that he said, "Please do Kim Young-sun the day before he took office." But the same goes for the problem of Gangseo-gu Mayor Kim Tae-woo. It's after I was elected president. What I think is very strange is that the Supreme Court dismissed the appeal of Kim Tae-woo's conviction in the second trial. But it was at the end of April that President Yoon told Kim Tae-woo, former head of the district, to nominate him. Then, after the president was elected, former district chief Kim Tae-woo was dismissed by the Supreme Court, and he roughly understood that he would probably lose his position as district chief. And it makes sense that Kim Tae-woo, the former head of the district office, just said, "I'm a person who looks after you like this, so I'm recommending you again." After that, he actually pardons former Mayor Kim Tae-ho as a special envoy for National Liberation Day. And I actually won the nomination. This means that he told me to nominate him when he was elected. So, it means that since President Yoon was elected, he has talked to people on the phone in this way to the party leader or people like this. It means that he did this to the chairman of the mission committee and also to the chairman of the Seoul Metropolitan Party, but I'm personally confused about whether this is the president's unique style or whether he really cares about people he cares about in this way. The other thing is that I don't understand this, but I think it's the first time I've heard that he told me to nominate the head of the district office, whether he's elected or the president. Usually, the president doesn't come forward in this case. Isn't it so? Usually, it makes sense to have a staff member or the president say this himself, but the president rarely picks up the phone himself, so I personally think that how to look at it is a bit out of shape.

■Jang Ye-chan: But first of all, I talk a lot about the Park Geun Hye government's intervention in nomination. At that time, he was found guilty of mobilizing organizations with public opinion polls or election planning, and the Supreme Court was acquitted of handing over the nomination list to the official committee. Therefore, the Supreme Court's precedent is that it is not a problem in itself to convey opinions on nominations without any organizational mobilization or planning. Originally, such consultations should be made closely between the government and the government. As critic Kim Sung-wan said behind the scenes, there must have been countless discussions in the Democratic Party of Korea, and President Yoon Suk Yeol is a person who is not blessed with the leader of the party, right? When an opinion was raised, I think that advice would have been given to the president to win the election or to acknowledge the contribution of those who made a lot of efforts during the presidential election, and that it is an exchange of opinions in the process.

◆Choi Soo-young: Anyway, according to lawmaker Lee Joon-seok's argument, he gave his opinion on the 2022 election, and this time, he pardoned again after Kim Tae-woo failed, so he ran again.

■Jang Ye-chan: When former head of the district Kim Tae-woo ran again, it was when lawmaker Lee Joon-seok was not the party leader, so it would be difficult for lawmaker Lee to know or confirm that. However, the important thing is that even if the president conveyed any opinions as lawmaker Lee Joon-seok said, it was not 100% carried out. In the case of Kim Tae-woo, the former head of the district office, he became a candidate for Gangseo-gu, but the candidate for the People's Power has never won the district office in Gangseo-gu. Until then, anyway, candidate Kim Tae-woo won right after the presidential election, so I think the official committee acknowledged that there was no reason for disqualification for Kim Tae-woo's nomination at least at that time. On the other hand, the problem is the Pohang mayor, and in the case of Pohang mayor, according to lawmaker Lee Joon-seok, it is a assumption, but the original mayor Lee Kang-deok was nominated again without carrying out the claim. So this was a simple expression of opinion, but if you really intervened in the nomination or suppressed it, not only Gangseo-gu but also Pohang Mayor should have been nominated like that, but that's not it.

□Kim Sung-wan: I've talked about many things, some of them actually worked out and some didn't. So that's an opinion. This is a jump in logic. Even if there was one case, if the president presented his opinion and told him to give him a nomination, there is a possibility that it could be an illegal act in itself. And it was President Yoon Suk Yeol who created this precedent. Park Geun Hye You charged him with election law.

◇Lee Ik-seon: The problem is that the Myung case may spread to the general public's power nomination.If Rep. Lee Joon-seok opens his mouth, the destructive power will be strong, but I also think that Rep. Lee Joon-seok, who was the leader of the party at the time, is opening his mouth now and whether he will talk more about the destructive power in the future.

■Jang Ye-chan: But who would actually stop that? And it's also strange to artificially take measures from the power of the people to prevent Lee Joon-seok from talking further. If you feel awkward and want to say something, Rep. Lee Joon-seok has the freedom to speak, and the political community can evaluate it. However, selective disclosure or such selective memories will be a little strange to the public. Because he said he had the messenger he exchanged with the president or First Lady Kim Gun-hee during the same period. But during the same period, I didn't have any Kakao Talk messages with Myung Taekyun because I changed my phone. This is too selective. So even in this area, he probably thinks about the people's perspective. But who would stop that?

□Kim Sung-wan: I think we should stop him. I don't think so. I think I'll talk more if I don't stop you.

◇ Lee Ik-seon: Is this related to the 'Let's live' you mentioned earlier?

■Jang Ye-chan: Anyway, the time when Rep. Lee Joon-seok talks about various issues, there is an issue as if he responds to a report against him or a deep relationship with Myung Tae-kyun is revealed. Originally, Rep. Lee Joon-seok's political style is very good at coordinating things like this, but that doesn't mean we can report to the prosecution and say, "Don't give articles to the media about the relationship between Myung Tae-kyun and Lee Jun-seok."