"Kim Jin-tae cutoff. I'm going to flip it over". Myeong-tae-gyun bluffing? A Nobel Prize writer can't be this specific.

Jang Ye-chan)

- Lee Jae-myung, the first trial of perjury teacher? One and a half years in prison, '∀' without detention, 'blue clothes' banned for weekend outdoor rallies? Democratic Party Weeps, Evidence of Abandonment in Rally



Kim Sung-wan)

- 'Mother's team' appears in the prosecution of the misappropriation of Lee's law firm? Insulting

- Using party money to appeal Lee's election law? What do you know most about Han Dong-hoon?You said to "recover 43.4 billion won"?

- Li's perjury teacher is charged in retaliation.

[News FM Lee Ik-seon Choi Soo-young Issue & People]

□ Broadcast date and time: November 21, 2024 (Thursday)
□ Host: Lee Ik-seon, Choi Soo-young
□ Performers: Jang Ye-chan, Supreme Council member of the Power of the People Youth, Kim Sung-wan, current affairs critic

- Myung Tae-kyun, "Kim Jin-tae, I will change it" bluster? The Nobel Prize writer is not as specific as this.
- Lee Jun-seok, Myung Tae-kyun 'Intervention in the Nomination' Now is time to say.

* The text below may differ from the actual broadcast content, so please check the broadcast for more accurate information.

◇ Profit Line: Let's go with the second keyword of this week's top three. The second keyword is 'the great man's method', not 'the great man's view'.

◆Choi Soo-young: I think he made a parody of the great man's snowflake. So, a great man's commentary is literally a four-character idiom that gives a certain position for a specific person, but these days, in the political world, "great man's speech" means that they make a law for a specific person. To explain briefly, after Lee Jae-myung's first trial of violating the Public Official Election Act, the Democratic Party of Korea revised the election law and announced that it would increase it by 10 times if the current 1 million won was not allowed to run or be deprived of the right to run for election. With 10 million won. And the law came out at a strange time to eliminate the crime of slander of candidates for publicizing false information under the election law. How do you see it?

□Kim Sung-wan: It means that the Democratic Party is also embarrassed. Because you said Democratic earlier, but you shouldn't say Democratic. This is because it is not decided by the party's theory or officially announced by the party leadership. Rep. Park Hee-seung did it. This is what Rep. Park Hee-seung explains. So, since I was a judge, I have discussed with my fellow judges that I have a problem with this, and since last summer, I have prepared to propose a revision of the law, and that's right after the election. The legal office even requested an inspection in early September. After CEO Lee Jae-myung was convicted, he said, "I didn't prepare this systematically."
I thought it would sound more convincing to say something critical first, so why are you doing something so misleading? It would have been nice if I proposed it after thinking about how much empathy it could generate in the people and how many fellow lawmakers it could gather. That's what I'm thinking. So, it wasn't a good time. It's like this. Second, from the Democratic Party's point of view, the announcement of false information is a very rubbery judgment. Even in the representative Lee Jae-myung issue, I have no choice but to tell you that if I start to talk about it in detail, it could be controversial. It's not that time right now, so even if we move on, there's something like that. They say money is eaten and mouths are unwrapped in elections. But to put it the other way around, why do the public not seem to change much when they look at the results of the polls and things like this even after Lee Jae-myung is convicted? If Lee Jae-myung says so, what will Yoon Suk Yeol become the president? They're asking questions like this. So, speaking of CEO Lee Jae-myung's corporate card issue, what happens to the prosecution's special operating expenses? And I think the prosecution actually made this kind of announcement as an insult because the wife's team said it was a problem. While prosecuting the corporate card, Kim Hye-kyung said that she operated a team called her wife's team and spent more than 8 million won on meals there, and that she also used it illegally. Then what will be the money that Mrs. Kim Gun-hee uses? Then, the heads of local governments across the country, so-called private homes, so the spouse of the head of the local government cannot help but engage in political activities. All the money spent like that becomes money spent illegally. For example, I ride an official car. Then you have to get paid for the fuel. Don't you think you should pay for your car in the future? That's why the people keep asking back questions about that kind of thing. So, it is necessary to think about how to organize these problems under the election law. You know, the best Jang is probably being tried for a lawsuit.

■Jang Ye-chan: There are several lawsuits. It's a complaint.

□ Kim Sung-wan: It is also necessary to discuss the provisions that tie up floor leaders. However, I hope that the Democratic Party of Korea will intentionally do something by connecting with Chairman Lee Jae-myung with this and not push it too much.

■Jang Ye-chan: I don't always look at this badly. Even if the Democratic Party did it, politicians agree that Korea's election law regulations are too strong. So it's worth discussing. Isn't it amazing? I appreciate the Democratic Party bill like this, but all political activities are followed by who, why, and when. If the Korean government is a conservative and progressive, drunk driving criminals and those who have previous convictions are also drivers of livelihood, they will give you something like a daily buy. But when a drunk driver asks for a pardon, the public doesn't look closely at it. So, there is a consensus in the political circle that the election law should be revised, but the timing of this proposal and the topic of conversation is so bad. So, it is a must-have discussion, but rather, its purity could be further undermined by this proposal, so it would be good for the ruling and opposition parties to agree and discuss it head-to-head after next year when the Lee Jae-myung trial ends to some extent.

◇Lee Ik-seon: But is there a possibility that this will pass?

□Kim Sung-wan: No. You have to say, "Let's do this at the party level."

◆Choi Soo-young: Then let's move on to another story here. Representative Lee Jae-myung appealed again yesterday after receiving the first ruling of the Public Official Election Act. By the way, we often talk about replacing lawyers with former lawyers, but I think Lee Jae-myung, the representative of the legal support party, has probably nominated Park Kyun-taek, who will be a lawyer and nominate one person. Is this a case?

□Kim Sung-wan: No, you have to ask CEO Han Dong-hoon about this. Because if he is convicted of finalizing the election law this time, the Democratic Party of Korea will have to recover all 43.4 billion won spent on election expenses during the last presidential election. That's why it's a matter of party level, isn't it? The loss of Lee Jae-myung's individual parliamentary seat is not the problem, but we are now saying that it is cheaper than this. From what I hear, our company is around 30 billion won. He said it was money that he shouldn't sell us, so the Democratic Party has no choice but to respond. It's not right to say that it's Lee Jae-myung's personal problem with that. And although Chairman Lee Jae-myung is not only the current leader of the party but also the leader of the party, I think it will be a little difficult to argue with the legal response to this as he is the next presidential candidate.

◇Lee Ik-seon: CEO Lee's perjury teacher will be sentenced next Monday, the 25th. I'm cautious, but don't critics make it a destiny to make predictions? What do you expect from the two of you?

■Jang Ye-chan: I am imprisoned for life without probation for 1 year and 6 months.

□Kim Sung-wan: The Democratic Party keeps saying that it exerts pressure on the judiciary's judgment, but he said that he will be arrested in court.

◇Lee Ik-seon: Do critics also influence the judiciary like this these days?

■Jang Ye-chan: I'm just a free critic in the wilderness. Because the prosecution asked for two years during the Public Official Election Act, but half of them came out. Since I asked for three years this time, there is no suspension of execution because if only about half of it comes out, it will be fair for one year and six months. And more than 95% of perjury teachers are not guilty of imprisonment or innocence. Less than 5% of them are fined. If you look at the case law, if it is difficult to be innocent at all, there is a very high possibility of imprisonment.

□Kim Sung-wan: I also want to ask CEO Han Dong-hoon. I'd like to ask the best Jang right now. Have you read all the transcripts of the call that CEO Lee Jae-myung said he talked on the phone? How did you feel when you read it?

■Jang Ye-chan: Secretary Kim Jin-sung must have felt tremendous pressure?

□Kim Sung-wan: I don't think many people will accept it as something they talked on the phone to put pressure on them. I think I'm innocent. So tell me the truth. Did you see the verdict? Please read it and tell me accordingly. Let's say this is a perjury teacher. In Korea, for example, there are many cases where it is legally problematic. If you tell the person to tell you the truth, you'll all be a perjury teacher. Then, I think this was prosecuted in this way to prosecute representative Lee Jae-myung. After the Supreme Court's acquittal of Lee Jae-myung's election law, he was investigating the case with Baekhyun-dong, and now he has charged the perjury teacher again because the transcript came out of his cell phone. As a critic, I amount to retaliatory prosecution. I think it's similar to Yoo Woosung's case. It was done under the judgment that the prosecution should persistently kill representative Lee Jae-myung. If the judiciary convicts this, it will likely become controversial later.

■Jang Ye-chan: I respect the opinion of our critic Kim Sung-hwan. That's how you see it. But what's important here is that the pressure and pressure of secretary Kim Jin-sung, the person concerned, will also be the main criterion for the judiciary to judge, but he confesses that he actually testified in favor of a de facto representative Lee Jae-myung while taking his own punishment.

□Kim Sung-wan: There is also a counterargument that he said so with this case because he was involved in other cases.

◆Choi Soo-young: Okay. The Democratic Party has issued a ban on wearing blue clothes at this weekend's rally. Some say that this is a camouflage tactic, or that it's expanding public sentiment. What is the meaning of these two?

□Kim Sung-wan: What kind of soldier are you? It's probably public sentiment. I'm looking at the public sentiment. Because various political issues are confusing during the assembly. From the Democratic Party's point of view, it is not an impeachment rally, but it is a place where the public shows public opinion that the first lady, Kim Gun-hee, should pass the independent counsel law anyway. But it narrows down to Democratic Party rallies. So, people who want to participate may feel rejected when people who don't support the Democratic Party, but think this is unfair. In that sense, it's better not to be seen as a Democratic rally. This is how you judge it. What would you do with other political intentions?

■Jang Ye-chan: I see it as a proof that the Democratic Party rally is difficult right now. So you don't have to tell them to wear blue when people gather well. It's a good thing that people gather well, but we've held several rallies and even held rallies in solidarity with the Korean Confederation of Trade Unions, but the number of people is less than last week. So, for Chairman Lee Jae-myung and the Democratic Party of Korea, it is a tearful effort to gain power somehow. So, the fact that you don't wear this blue is proof that the rally is falling apart.

◇ Proficiency line: I see. The third keyword of this week's top three is the summons of pollack.

◆Choi Soo-young: Myung Tae-kyun has now been arrested and is under prosecution investigation, but a new recording has been released. So, Myung intervened in the nomination of Kim Jin-tae for governor of Gangwon Province during the local elections two years ago. It's a recording that claims, but the content is like this. I saved Kim Jin Tae. That's why people say that I've been given a chance to run in the cutoff. How should I look at this?

■Jang Ye-chan: I don't think we need to rush into this person's bluster like this at all. Myung Tae-kyun showed off that he is a great person and swindled money from some politicians and aspiring candidates in South Gyeongsang Province based on that. These are the core of the political fund investigation right now, and this person did this and that to charm those around him and to show off his influence, and is the core of Korean politics, Myung Tae-kyun? I think it's a ridiculous bluff. At one point, he was able to talk to the current president of the presidential candidate for a short time and gave advice, so it became a hot topic. In the case of former Governor Kim Jin-tae, he staged a hunger strike at that time. And due to the hunger strike, it was common for the party to give it a chance to run in the primary. It's a bit strange that Governor Kim Jin-tae is going to the primary, but if he was forced to put the primary on it, external pressure or something could have been applied, but if you look at the articles and public opinion of the political circle, the public opinion that Kim Jin-tae's cutoff is even stranger is overwhelming. So, I think it's hard to say that this has turned into a certain decision and betting by Governor Kim Jin-tae, such as a hunger strike, and that a person named Myung Tae-kyun had any influence from behind.

□Kim Sung-wan: I see why the presidential office likes Jang Ye-chan the best. On May 19, 2022, the transcript of the Yoon Suk Yeol president was released. You said you told him to do Kim Young-sun. But when did this happen? That's what happened in April 2022. Then what on earth would Myung Tae-kyun have said that the president would answer the phone and do Kim Young-sun? But the person said it. That's the first one. The second one. Let's talk about the composition of the officialdom. According to the transcript, the commission consists of 11 members, and three people are asked to nominate them, but eight people oppose the nomination. At that time, CEO Lee Joon-seok, so after the official committee became CEO Lee Joon-seok, he was very sensitive to the May 18 issue, especially in the Kim Jong-in emergency committee system. Rep. Kim Jin-tae was actually cut off because of that. But the person who was cut off on April 14th suddenly came back alive in four days. But nothing has changed. There's only one word that he apologized for fasting in the middle. If you look up the media at the time, you'll find out, but they all said it was weird. But Myung Taekyun says that. At that time, Han Ki-ho, a member of the mission, was probably the party secretary-general. No, I should do it.I'm talking to the president. There's even a story about it being done like this. But Myung is doing this bluffing by himself like this? I don't think so. It's probably hard for a Nobel Prize-winning writer in Korea to write like this. From what I can see, it's not something that you can say like this unless you know it specifically.

◇Lee Ik-seon: But wasn't the person who was closest to Myung Tae-kyun Lee Joon-seok? Rep. Lee Jun-seok's story will solve all the questions.

□Kim Sung-wan: I also want to ask Rep. Lee Jun-seok. I think there will be a lot of things that Rep. Lee Joon-seok knows. In fact, I'm also hearing that there's a lot of information circulating among reporters. So CEO Lee Joon-seok has something to say and make it more smoking gun, but he can't reveal it. I think it's enough to answer if you ask. However, there are rumors that the prosecution will establish a Seoul branch office at the Seoul Eastern District Prosecutors' Office to investigate former emergency committee chairman Kim Jong-in and representative Lee Joon-seok here in Changwon. I'll probably investigate. But I think former CEO Lee Joon-seok should talk about what happened at this time. I think I have a lot of things.

◆Choi Soo-young: So Rep. Lee Joon-seok said something on CBS radio, "President Yoon, who has the nature of a tree frog, listens to Myung Tae-kyun well and does the opposite when I and Chairman Kim Jong-in talk." What does this mean?

■Jang Ye-chan: So it's just a revival of the early days of the race. in order to turn the subject around So, for me, all the things that Representative Lee Joon-seok met with President Myung Tae-kyun of Yoon Suk Yeol were before the presidential election. So, we shouldn't mix the controversy over whether Lee Joon-seok, Kim Jong-in, Yoon Suk Yeol President, and Myung Tae-kyun were involved in various nominations after the presidential election or after the presidential election. In these cases, it is important to distinguish the timing. So, mixing the part that Myung Tae-kyun did a good job as a messenger with the president of Yoon Suk Yeol in the early days of this race with the fact that he received a certain role from the president in the nomination intervention after his election in 2022 distorts the facts. It needs to be distinguished.

◇Lee Ik-seon: It was revealed that the Future Korea Research Institute, which was actually operated by Myung Tae-kyun, conducted an undisclosed poll for Seoul Mayor Oh Se-hoon and received money from a third party. Mayor Oh immediately denied it. The prosecution is now analyzing related data.

□Kim Sung-wan: Well, the details keep coming out about how far this has come. So, isn't it that Myung Tae-kyun turned the poll during the by-election for Seoul mayor at the time? It is said that 13 out of 25 turns are a closed-door investigation that is directly related. Mr. Kim, who is now called a money man. I also heard your real name today. I gave some money to Myung Tae-kyun for the poll, but the transcript now contains a story criticizing Mayor Oh Se-hoon for giving him an absurd amount. This could be a violation of the Political Fund Act. I think the prosecution should not let this go.

■Jang Ye-chan: For example, I don't think we can rule out the possibility that Myung Tae-kyun received money from wealthy people by selling their names even though they don't know this at all about a poll by Mayor Oh Se-hoon or Rep. Lee Joon-seok.

◇ Proficiency line: I see. This week, I was joined by Top Three current affairs critic Kim Sung-wan and Jang Ye-chan, a member of the Supreme Council for the Power of the People. Thank you.