Lee Jae-myung, a perjury teacher, was acquitted in the first trial."Lee Jae-myung will not die." Attention is paid to Li's remarks again.

[News FM Lee Ik-seon Choi Soo-young Issue & People]

□ Broadcast date and time: November 25, 2024 (Mon)
□ Host: Lee Ik-seon, Choi Soo-young
□ Performers: Kim Ki-heung, former deputy spokesperson for the president's office, Choi Byung-cheon, head of the New Growth Economic Research Institute

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- Choi Byung-cheon said, "Even though Lee is guilty in the first trial of the election law, the middle class thinks it is against equity.38% of legitimate rulings vs 43% of political repression"

◆ Profit Line: Choose the key points from the pouring news and organize them simply and clearly. The issue is Monday, and we have two experts here. We invited Maj. Gen. Jegal-ryang Choi Byung-cheon of the political analysis community and Kim Ki-heung, a conservative handsome guy, as a deputy spokesman for the former president's office. Welcome.

◇Choi Soo-young: Let's point out the hottest issue today. The first trial of the perjury teacher case of Lee Jae-myung, the leader of the Democratic Party of Korea, will take place shortly at 2 p.m. The first trial of the perjury teacher case will be sentenced to one year in prison and two years of probation under the last Public Official Election Act. However, the prosecution first asked for three years. Let me point out how much you expect, including guilt or innocence.

□Kim Ki-heung: I think there will be a clear conviction, and if a prison term is issued, I expect a year in prison and a year and a half in prison and two years in probation if a collection is made.

■Choi Byung-cheon: You said it too specifically. The reason this case is a bit unusual is that during Baekhyun-dong's investigation, Kim Ki-sung said first that he perjured himself. So, I didn't say that I perjured while investigating perjury, but I confessed a little bit first. So it's not easy to be acquitted because he's already been sentenced at 10 months. So one is that I gave perjury, which is not beneficial from this person's point of view. There is no possibility of innocence because there is a transcript of it because he/she has been punished for not having to be punished. And when I asked for advice from the legal professionals around me, there seemed to be a little more opinions that their opinions would be more likely to come out for nearly two years if they were about a year and a half. It's because there are a lot of reasons for the transcript, the fact that the person was actually sentenced to prison, and other reasons, so a year is relatively small, and there seem to be quite a few people who expect it for nearly two years.

◇Choi Soo-young: You're saying that both of you will be sentenced to prison for about a year to a year and a half, right? I see. This question will come out in 30 minutes.

■Choi Byung-cheon: It starts at 2 o'clock, so it comes out around 2:40 to 50 minutes.

◆Lee Ik-seon: But at the Democratic Party's 4th outdoor rally last weekend, a ban was issued to people not to wear blue clothes. Initially, the Democratic Party explained that it was for the participation of various people, but there was no mention of the assembly by representative Lee Jae-myung. I heard it was actually over in 30 minutes.
■Choi Byung-cheon: The weather is cold and the power is on October 31. The transcript of the president of Yoon Suk Yeol was released. Supreme Council member Kim Jae-won, who was pro-Yoon-gye at the time, told the Supreme Council a few days later that the presidential office in Yongsan should give a responsible explanation, but there were not many follow-up hits after that, and the presidential press conference and the change of stress of representative Han Dong-hoon combined, and some comparison with the Democratic Party, and few Democrats expected that the situation that had in mind for the impeachment of President Park Geun Hye would be reproduced. It was true that there was another one, but in fact, I think there is a little problem with it, but isn't there still less energy to whether it is a sense of However, there are many issues related to the president of Yoon Suk Yeol, Kim Gun-hee, and various stories related to Myung Tae-kyun, but the media should see it as a little hidden, and I think the energy that the people don't like remains the same. However, I think there are quite a few things that are viewed separately from impeachment. That's one of the main reasons why I'm less energized at any demonstration.

◇Choi Soo-young: By the way, Deputy Spokesperson Kim Ki-heung. It seems that the number of people decreases as the protests continue, but this time, the police estimate is 9,000 to 9,000, and Supreme Council member Kim Min-seok came in so many people that they said they were not counting. And why do you think the Democratic Party of Korea is changing like this when it tells you not to wear it because it's the color of each blue outfit?

□Kim Ki-heung: Supreme Council member Kim Min-seok even wrote 'Countless' in English. I can count it... I don't think you have that strong heart, but we usually do that, don't we? I think the most important fact is that the people's hearts did not go toward wearing the Democratic Party's flag and the Democratic Party's blue clothes when they held up the flag. In a way, it's like this. The Democratic Party is less proud of the Democratic Party's blue clothes than before, even though President Yoon Suk Yeol strongly criticizes the Yoon Suk Yeol government. That's what they feel. I think it's an unconscious gesture, and the reason is because a lot of people talk about impeachment. But just because the president does something wrong, lacks something, and is criticized doesn't mean that the word impeachment is immediately dismissed, right? But I said something too strong. But over time, after the first trial was sentenced, who actually had a problem? Then, the prosecution was demonized, but the judge had to demonize it. Then, in the third party's view, it can be like, "Are you only good and all the rest are bad people?" I can't agree on that and I am. President Yoon Suk Yeol's problem is not his own, but Kim Gun-hee's problem, and Representative Lee Jae-myung's problem is the problem of the person concerned. And Mrs. Kim Gun-hee's problem has some emotional problems. However, representative Lee Jae-myung's problem is different if you think about it calmly because there is a problem with his own judicial risk offense. But the people who keep asking questions, investigators, and prosecutors have been demonized, and I think there is something that people have seen objectively through some judicial decision.

◆ Lee Ik-seon: I see. Following the last violation of the election law, there is an atmosphere that if a prison sentence is issued again this time, it is inevitable to think about after Lee Jae-myung, but among them, former lawmaker Seol Hoon, who left the Democratic Party of Korea in the last general election, is drawing attention. While demanding Lee's resignation from the leadership and the parliament, he said that there are many people who will represent the Democratic Party other than Lee Jae-myung.

■Choi Byung-cheon: It's true that there are many people in any party, whether it's the Democratic Party or any party. And the power of the people has been represented several times and the chairman of the emergency committee several times. So Seol-hoon said this, but it is true that Lee Jae-myung's first drama system has become very strong after the general election. However, in the first trial of the Public Official Election Act on the 15th and today's first trial, both came out a little stronger than expected, and this time, a certain number of people are even talking about something high. In particular, as you know, the Public Official Election Act will end in a year from 6, 3, 6, 3, and 3 months to 1st, 2nd, and 3rd trials. The first trial took two years and two months, but the general prediction is that the remaining 2nd and 3rd trials will come out in a year at the latest. In that sense, the opinion that it is not easy to be innocent by the third trial or less than 1 million won seems to be increasing regardless of the name or scream, because it came out so strong in the first trial. In that respect, the issue of immediately replacing the representative is a little different because the first trial ruling is coming out. In fact, the one-pole system is strong, and I chose a representative even though I knew this. So, I think that the probability of a representative replacement theory coming out is not high.

◆Lee Ik-seon: So you're going to complete the rest of your term?

■Choi Byung-cheon: There's a high probability of that. It's a question of how Lee Jae-myung makes his decision, but in fact, there were two expressions that Lee Jae-myung made at the rally after the first trial ruling, one saying, "Lee Jae-myung does not die," and the other saying, "The court of history will continue." So, under the actual law, to say that I would get two more times, I wondered if there was a kind of nuance underneath.

◇Choi Soo-young: But the expression of my appearance in the media today is interesting, so I asked you, and it came up like this. So, a new word came out: Lee Jae-myung during the day and agitated at night. But I saw today's expression in the media that if the sentence you just mentioned comes out in this perjury investigation, "Jumyeong Yadong" will come, what do you think?

□Kim Ki-heung: Right? Even now, I think I'm going to do "Yakdong." The problem is that if you move, you die. So if you go out of your mouth, you die. That's not my expression, but because Rep. Choi Min-hee said it so openly. But what I think is that what I want to give some advice to CEO Lee Jae-myung is that those who have made strong remarks are by no means for CEO Lee Jae-myung. It's a profitable business. Because Rep. Choi Min-hee says if you move, you'll die. And in the case of lawmaker Chung Chung-rae, he attacks the judiciary and lawmaker Kim Min-seok's judiciary, but the judge is also a person, so it's a little upsetting. You have to reflect on yourself, but if you do that, you could be in a bad way. The other thing is that if the power of the legislature is not self-purification and there is no regulation, without some control, power can be seen as violence. If you look at the threat of the judiciary in a big way, isn't it obstructing the judiciary? That's why, in my view, some logic in the court never helps. But who likes when they make such strong remarks? Dog daughters like it. The steely supporters. Then, he pretends to be for CEO Lee Jae-myung, but in the end, he continues to push CEO Lee Jae-myung to the cliff and naturally becomes them when there is space. So, in my view, even if Lee Jae-myung, the head of the pro-Myeong community, is judged in the third trial, he sees a space for them to step up when they quit, and then a space for non-government is created only when local elections and presidential elections are imminent. It is hard to create it from the beginning. Because the really strong people keep watching, I think there will be another Lee Jae-myung, there will be a screamer, there will be three people waiting and watching in that respect. If so, who can use the platform of his country's Cho Kuk Innovation Party when the representative Cho Kuk did it at the final trial? Whether the platform is in his or her own form of friendly inquiry or a third party, it's no matter what dog it is. I think it can be a platform of some kind.

■ Choi Byung-cheon: That's right. I want to add a little bit to it. You can see it like that, but you can see it differently. Because this ruling itself is against the fairness of many people, regardless of whether Lee Jae-myung is right or wrong. First Lady Kim Gun-hee and President Yoon Suk Yeol also said that the mother-in-law's remarks and any other woman's remarks were not true when they were candidates, but there is no investigation and only this side is investigating, so in fact, this is a bit of a political oppression. At least it's against equity. In fact, according to a Gallup Korea poll released late last week, the public opinion that this is a legitimate ruling and unfair political oppression are almost the same as 43-42. And what's interesting is that in Chungcheong and Busan, the ruling is a little higher, and in the middle class, the ruling is 38 and unfair political oppression is 43 and it is higher. So the truth is that the people still see this as unfair political oppression in the middle. And 13 percent of Democratic supporters alone are justified. 79 percent are political oppression. Supporters of the Cho Kuk Innovation Party have similar figures, but they are similar. So, it's a bit exaggerated in my opinion that all the Democratic Party members are just doing it to look good, even though they don't have any in their minds. Because there is a side that is the primary and legitimate emotion that a political leader who follows an unjust person gets angry and thinks is unfair when he or she receives something unjust and too biased. So even if you look at the topography of the poll, I think it may be a bit excessive to see this as a political calculation.

◇Choi Soo-young: So I think the Democratic Party's supporters or the middle class can react to the first ruling, but Lee Jae-myung's judicial risk is not the only perjury teacher. Baekhyun-dong and there are still three to four more cases left to send money to North Korea. In terms of the dailyization of judicial risks, there is an analysis that whether Lee Jae-myung can maintain his current approval rating and continue as he said, will be the touchstone and standard for Lee Jae-myung's leadership in the future. Do you agree?

■ Choi Byung-cheon: I actively agree with that. For example, Trump is now a representative. Trump ended up getting a point. I received one, but my approval rating went up rather than down. But what I find interesting among Lee Jae-myung's recent moves is that something is actively appearing in the issues of commercial law revision or the Korea discount issue. So last time, I approved the abolition of the financial investment tax, then adopted the revision of the commercial law as a party's theory, and recently, I also raised the issue of separate taxation of dividend income. However, although the number of Korean stock investors varies slightly depending on the figures, about 13 million people are talking. So I'm actively appealing to these people, but the Korean stock market is in a mess right now. There were many cases in which stock investors could feel angry about various divisive listings or mergers at strange rates, but I'm very good at this when CEO Lee Jae-myung appeals, leading policies and appealing to people. In fact, this is a desirable policy and an issue where the front lines between progressive and conservative parties stick together. In this regard, I think that it is related to the problem consciousness you mentioned to drive a certain stock investment-related issue through the revision of the Commercial Act.

◆Lee Ik-seon: The Gallup Korea survey you just used. For three days from the 19th, we conducted telephone interviews with 1,1 people aged 18 or older nationwide. For more information, please refer to Gallup or the website of the Central Public Opinion Review Committee.