與 Jang Sung-chul over the controversy over Dangge, "The power of the people or Han Dong-hoon, just sue Jang Ye-chan."

◆ [YTN Radio SHINYUL's news]
■ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (17:00-19:00)
■ Air date: November 25, 2024 (Monday)
■ Proceedings: Shin Yul, Professor of Political Science and Diplomacy at Myongji University
■ Dialogue: Jang Sung-chul, Director of Public Opinion Center, Kim Min-ha, Current Affairs Critic

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Jang Sung-cheol
- Party bulletin board controversy, basic provision of clues, Han Dong-hoon
- Han Dong-hoon raised the possibility of expressing regret with a few words.
- If I were former aide Kim Min, I would have asked for an official investigation
- Han Dong-hoon, considering the presidential election, family verification is natural.Shake it off and go
- 尹 reshuffle, the principles and direction are not right

Kim Min-ha
- Is the biggest pending issue of the ruling party 'controversy over party bulletin boards'? Does it make sense?
- Han Dong-hoon complains to reporters...Feeling sad
- 與 Party bulletin controversy...Political attack against Han Dong-hoon
- Han Dong-hoon's family attacks, deja vu
to raise the issue of the president's family in South Korea- People's Power 'Party Bulletin Controversy', Eventually Their Own League

◆ Shin Yul: Shin Yul's news head-to-head competition part 2 begins. Following the first part, we're here with two people from the second part. It's politics Kim & Chang. Jang Sung-chul, director of the Public Opinion Center, and Kim Min-ha, current affairs critics, are with us. Now we need to talk about the power of the people, but this morning, representative Han Dong-hoon and former Supreme Council member Kim Min had a war of words, right? How do you see it?

■ Jang Sung-chul: I would like to criticize former Supreme Council member Kim Min for his proper actions. We can talk about that at a closed meeting, but from the perspective of the People's Power leadership, from the perspective of Representative Han Dong-hoon, there is an important political big event called the first trial of Lee Jae-myung's perjury teacher, and the Supreme Committee, which should strengthen its offensive against Lee Jae-myung of the Democratic Party of Korea and provide consistent messages, criticized Han Dong-hoon, the party's bulletin board leader, so that became the main issue on today's broadcast. For the party, I think something quite painful has happened, but basically, CEO Han Dong-hoon provided the first clue. If it's confirmed that you just have to check and say if it's not, you just have to say no, and your family is involved, I'm just sorry to express regret. I'm sorry. As the party leader, you can think in principle, but I have no choice but to criticize both sides whether it is the right judgment to drag on like this for almost two weeks or why they are trying to impose such political pressure.

◆ Sin Yul: How do you watch it? You just thought of something else, right?

◇ Kim Min-ha: No, it's not. While listening to Director Jang Sung-chul's words, he told me everything about how to say it. What should I say? Then first,

◆ Sin-ryul: And then he's trying to pass the time by pretending to be humble.

◇ Kim Min-ha: No, because I think the same thing is that I don't know why the person who raises the issue or the person who receives the issue is doing this. And it's the ruling party, isn't it? The ruling party has a lot of issues to think about now, but isn't it the one that governs the country? Anyway, isn't it on the side of governing? And now Director Jang Sung-chul talked about CEO Lee Jae-myung again, but it's not just CEO Lee Jae-myung's problem, is it? The current situation, for example, is important for the party to be reborn, for conservative politics to be reborn, and isn't it also a cabinet reshuffle to see how new Yongsan is? And now, CEO Han Dong-hoon's request to replace the Hannam-dong line seems to be ending, and there are various innovation tasks, right? And from next year, President Yoon Suk Yeol will take an active fiscal policy to strengthen the middle class and resolve polarization, right? Wouldn't the Trump administration in the U.S. have a lot of concerns about how to respond to it? There are so many things that the government needs to do about each of these tasks, such as whether the party needs to reset this direction, or whether it needs to work with the ruling party to make a good story. But the biggest issue right now is that the biggest issue of the pan-conservative camp is what CEO Han Dong-hoon wrote on the bulletin board, and whether his family wrote it. I'm not sure if it's right to be like this because I'm talking about it in a cold way. Even at the top committee meeting, the supreme council member and the party leader had a war of words, and the party leader came out and complained to reporters in a state of rage, saying, "When did I ever say this that was harmful to the party?" I feel a little sad about whether this is a desirable ruling party.

■ Jang Sung-chul: If I were an aide or aide to former Supreme Council member Kim Min, I think I would have been like this. At the closed meeting, I will officially make a request to Chairman Han Dong-hoon and the Secretary-General as members of the party's leadership. Investigate who this is and report it at the next Supreme Council meeting. That is not against the election law and the party law. In terms of just checking, we can check this part. We can't just not fear it internally. It means that we really don't check whether it's CEO Han Dong-hoon's family or not in about 10 minutes. It means that we're officially requesting it, so I'd like to report it to the next Supreme Council and post it. But the other Supreme Council members knew that there were 8 Han Dong-hoon representatives. Why should I not know? I don't think it's right to approach it this way.

◇ Kim Min-ha: So as a critic who said, "I don't think this is a problem to solve, as CEO Han Dong-hoon suspects, I'm starting to think about that now." In fact, if this is the case, the person who raises the issue

◆ Shin Yul: Do you mean that talking about it reminds me of the past CEO Lee Jun-seok?

◇ Kim Min-ha: It is a little questionable whether we will go that far, but there seems to be a considerable amount of questioning to make any political attacks against representative Han Dong-hoon. I can only explain it like this. I started to think about this and now it seems like I'm leading this offensive outside the party. Actually, former Supreme Council member Jang Ye-chan, but what former Supreme Council member Jang Ye-chan said on other broadcasts was quite impressive to me. I think it was CBS Radio. That's what I said. Now, former Supreme Council member Jang Ye-chan is claiming that lawyer Jin Eun-jung, the spouse of CEO Han Dong-hoon, led this. Even though he is claiming that, he is raising the issue that the family did it anyway, which is actually the same as opening a way out for CEO Han Dong-hoon. They explain that it's better to admit that the family did it. They make this kind of argument. But the feeling I received while hearing that was, "Oh, then the person who raises the issue is suspecting that they may not be family members, but is there any other intention to claim that they are family members now?" Then, what is that? Aren't all the people who raise this issue now called Chin-yoon? Then is it like this? Since Han Dong-hoon raised a question about the president's spouse or the president's family, then our close friends who want to protect the president will also raise a question about Han Dong-hoon's family. It seems that the current problem-raising is not going in the direction of solution, but in the direction of creating an ecosystem, so I'm worried about which people will interpret the situation as which voters are responsible and which ruling party is in this way.

■ Jang Sung-cheol: The People's Power or Han Dong-hoon's representative just file a complaint against Jang Ye-chan. You keep telling me to file a complaint on the show. So it's better to reveal the facts. That's what I think. To be honest, I don't understand why they are developing political risks that are not very important and are not very high-risk.

◆ Shin Yul: But I'm a little curious about what you just said, but my family, for example, joined a party and posted on the party board. But let's say you made relatively friendly remarks about Representative Han Dong-hoon and linked articles critical of the president or First Lady Kim Gun-hee, and do you think it's legal to post a little bit of talk about the policy committee chairman?

■ Jang Seong-cheol: It doesn't get caught legally, it doesn't get caught politically.

◆ Sin-ryul: That's right. When my family does it, I don't like this. But... If someone who is not a family member stole the family name. Isn't there a lot of problems?

■ Jang Sung-chul: If you say you hacked, it's a problem and then you collect all the accounts, for example, imagination. If CEO Han Dong-hoon gives it to a specific person who supports him and posts it a little bit, it becomes a bigger problem. What's wrong with those families just talking freely?

◆ Shin Yul: If it's a family, is it actually an organization? If I go on a family trip, did I go on a group trip?

■ Jang Seong-cheol: But some people say this. Then, President Yoon Suk Yeol's side said, "I didn't write this on the bulletin board of the party members, but Kim Gun-hee wrote it. Don't you have to check whether it is the same name or not?" It seems that they are planning to investigate after reacting like this. I want to tell you that this is a fight that even kids don't do.

◇ Kim Min-ha: As you said, my family just logged in and scooped up articles.He expressed his political views by posting complaints or complaints.That doesn't matter. Such a situation is

◆ Sin-ryul: There's nothing wrong.

◇ Kim Min-ha: That's right. However, I don't know if there will be more changes to CEO Han Dong-hoon, who is politically hateful. That's right. There are some things like that, but at a time when there are more and more things like pro-Yoon YouTube, there are a lot of pro-Yoon YouTube videos, so I wonder if they are continuing to raise additional questions about their families or creating such a political situation, but CEO Han Dong-hoon, who is suspicious of those things, is saying that it's a Kim Ok-gyun project now, so what are you talking about? You're taking it sensitively. Is that why you have such doubts? I think there are doubts about this. And then, no matter who actually stole the family's name by entrusting it to the outside world, those who raise questions now claim that they posted up to hundreds of articles a day, but if you say that you did it like that, wouldn't this be a form of obstruction of business to the organization called the people's power? Then, the fact is that this party should be the subject of the accusation, but is it solving the problem in this way? So, this is a legal problem. So, from CEO Han Dong-hoon's point of view, it becomes like a matter of choosing between the two. It's a question of whether it's going to be a problem or whether it's going to be a problem or whether it's going to be a problem like a person with a family risk who has a little more disgrace and then a little more political hate. But this is a way of interpreting the problem between the pro-Yoon side who raises the current situation and the close relationship who takes it sensitively, and most voters will be wondering if this is such a serious problem. Then

◆ Sin Yul: I'm not even interested.

◇ Kim Min-ha: I'm telling you that this is not a problem.

■ Jang Sung-cheol: If you say you don't mention it because you hate representative Han Dong-hoon and his family's problems in the media, you shouldn't be politicized. Because it is natural to verify the family of those who are trying to become political leaders, candidates for president, or party leaders. So, don't be afraid of those things and make a decision as a strange party leader quickly. Let's get the facts straight.
◆ Sin Yul: I said I don't know people. I was eating with my eldest daughter last time when we talked about Myung Taekyun, but I didn't know who he was. My eldest daughter was looking for her then. So, I felt when I saw our eldest daughter that there was a huge difference in political interest between people who are focusing on this side of things like this and the general public.

◇ Kim Min-ha: It's true that ordinary voters look for it only during the election, and they usually do their jobs. It's actually hard to watch the news for 10 minutes a day. Every day is exhausting, but as you say, the interest in whether CEO Han Dong-hoon wrote it or not on this bulletin board is no longer true, so how sad is it for the ruling party to be so passionate and squabbling with it, and how much of a league is their own? So if I were Han Dong-hoon, I would say this and end it. I asked my family and they said no or said yes. I'm sorry. As Director Jang Sung-chul said earlier, he said no. If you say no, you say no. If you don't believe me, watch the results of the investigation. Aren't you saying you're investigating? Let's wait and see the results of the investigation. And let's not talk about this until the investigation results come out. I think we can organize it like that, but you don't say that I asked my family if it's not, right? CEO Han Dong-hoon said, "I'm sorry in many ways that I'm not able to respond very coolly."

◆ Shin Yul: But wait a minute, I have a question for you. You mentioned personnel reform earlier. Critic Kim said, "It takes a considerable amount of physical time in that presidential office a while ago.We talked about it like that. Are you saying that you're not going to do it quickly? How do you see it?

■ Jang Sung-chul: You're right. It seems like you're judging whether there's a right person or not, and I'm not going to do it for those who picked the right person. I really don't like hearing or everything happening. I'm just gonna live this quiet. I think there are people like this. Now, we are trying to drastically change the cabinet or the presidential staff, so how to fit it in like a puzzle

◆ [Shin Yul] Are you a revolving door?

■ Jang Sung-chul: I think that's what he thinks. For example, as the article said recently, if Lee Sang-min, the Minister of Public Administration and Security, is sent to the NIS chief, will this be able to recognize the public through reform? I don't think I know how to judge such thoughts, and basically, it's the most symbolic position when it comes to the prime minister. So, I'm not a politician, but recently, there is a strong atmosphere that I'm trying to do based on experts. So anyway, after the Trump administration was established and the Ukraine-Russia war and the external environment was not easy, the president suddenly came up with the issue of polarization again. So, why don't we appoint the person who is now the governor of the Bank of Korea as the prime minister? There are now articles about how to make it a policy expert, and discussions seem to continue. That's why I think I can't get the principles and directions right first.

◆ Shin Yul: I'm very curious about who can take charge of this, even though all policy experts are good anyway.
■ Jang Seong-cheol: To Professor Shin Yul, the chief of staff for political affairs,

◆ Shin Yul: When I say that, I'm joking that I'm telling you that. You'd rather swear. The important thing about joking like this is that I actually think like this. That is also a point that can criticize President Yoon Suk Yeol very much. In the case of austerity, but if you say that you will actively manage your finances by suddenly resolving the polarization, that was actually a very strong point, but it was an advantage of pursuing fiscal soundness despite being criticized by President Yoon. Some criticize that this is not right.

◇ Kim Min-ha: There is a lot of criticism in the media, but I think the policy may change its direction. However, it can only change if there is a sufficient explanation and sufficient persuasion about this change. However, the problem of the Yoon Suk Yeol regime now is that it does not exist. As you said, we will keep this year's budget sound next year. I submitted it to the National Assembly on the premise that I would not spend the money. And we are reviewing the budget. It was surprising to hear that the government should set up an extra budget next year because it is necessary to actively spend the budget next year in deliberating on the main budget, so didn't it come out that the government said it would not review it? In fact, the ruling party should step up and adjust such confusion, but I'm worried because it's not going well.

◆ Shin Yul: That's it for today. Thank you.

■ Jang Seong-cheol, ◇ Kim Min-ha: Thank you.

◆ Shin Yul: So far, we have been with Jang Sung-chul, director of the Public Opinion Center, and Kim Min-ha, current affairs critics.