[YTN Radio News Fighting Bae Seunghee]
□ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (07:15 - 09:00)
□ Broadcast date and time: October 31, 2024 (Wednesday)
□ Host: Attorney Bae Seung-hee
□ Cast: Shin Dong-wook, Senior Spokesman for the People's Power Floor
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◆ Attorney Bae Seung-hee (hereinafter referred to as Bae Seung-hee): I'm Bae Seung-seung, fighting for the news. The second part starts. Representative Han Dong-hoon announced his vision to lead the party and alienation on the 100th day of his inauguration. Let's connect with Shin Dong-wook, the spokesman for the People's Power Party, to hear more about the evaluation of lawmakers in the party. Are you here?
◇Shin Dong-wook, Senior Spokesman for the People's Power Floor (hereinafter referred to as Shin Dong-wook): Yes, hello. Long time no see.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes, it's been a long time. Hello. It's already been 100 days since Han Dong-hoon took office as the party leader. I think the evaluation within the party is a little mixed after 100 days. What do you think?
◇Shin Dong-wook: Time flies. In order to understand the atmosphere within our party and the way representative Han Dong-hoon looks at the 100th day, I think we need to look at two trends. First, isn't it true that we now lost the general election by a significant margin? To overcome this defeat, so-called internal reforms are needed. Now, there are people who have the so-called self-awareness that the core of the internal reform should be horizontal in relation to the presidential office in Yongsan, and on the other hand, there are two definitely external threats that make it more urgent for us to end the judicial issues of Chairman Lee Jae-myung and Chairman Lee Jae-myung quickly and prevent the Democratic Party from running wild. In this situation, the party leader was elected with overwhelming support from the people and party members, but 100 days is actually a very short time because the Han Dong-hoon system was launched because it was somewhat uncomfortable with the president's office. Should I say that this structural limitation that CEO Han Dong-hoon has? Because these structural hazards started with so many, it's actually a way to expect some great results on the 1st, and it's actually a little harsh to criticize that there's been no great results. So, I still have a view in my party that is mixed with expectations and concerns for CEO Han Dong-hoon. I'm looking at it like this.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: That's what you said. I read an editorial this morning. "There was a critical editorial against Han Dong-won, and it is true that since Han has only expressed his voice without prior consultation and coordination, it has led to the deepening of the conflict in the party-government relationship." There was also a critical editorial such as this. What do you think about this part
◇ Shin Dong-wook: Yes. I read that in the morning, and both are correct. It's a theory of positivity. Everyone knows what kind of problem we have now, but it is also true that there are many negative views on whether one representative method is a good way to solve the problem. In particular, I work a lot on the floor, but from the floor members' point of view, for example, representative Han sets a lot of deadlines. Last time, the issue of the ruling and opposition parties' legislative affairs will be launched before Chuseok. If you look at yesterday's press conference, it should be resolved within November. It looks very clear and good, but it's a very burdensome way for the floor leader, for example, to negotiate with the opposition party or to coordinate issues within the party. These are the old ways of politics, where politics solves many things behind the scenes and goes to a kind of ceremony when seen from the outside. So, behind-the-scenes solutions are the way people who have been in politics for a long time, but Han often goes the other way, so the goal is actually the same. The main premise is that we need to reasonably coordinate the relationship between the party and the government, restore trust from the people, and prepare well for the next presidential election, but it is clear that there are differences over the method and our representative Hwang needs to humbly accept this point. That's how I see it.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. I'd like to ask a special inspector about the floor issue you mentioned. This time, floor leader Choo Kyung-wook also drew a line about the special inspector, saying, "In fact, it's a floor issue," but it seems to be going back to the general assembly issue. You said it was definitely a burdensome way. What's going to be the reveal of this gun?
◇ Shin Dong-wook: I personally think that if we do something really, really wrong, it can cause fatal internal injuries to our party. Joo Kyung-won, the floor leader of the National Assembly, said that it was a floor issue, not to talk with Han Dong-hoon, but rather to establish an angle, this issue is not just a single issue, but various issues such as the North Korean Human Rights Foundation have already passed.It is true that Ma has discussed with the opposition in connection with the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit issue in the past. On the one hand, however, you might think, "What does this have to do with the problem?" But actually, it's not necessarily a floor strategy. It was a somewhat disappointing expression that we would like to consult with the floor because we have always given strategies as a bargaining chip and received them again and again.
◇Shin Dong-wook: I think so, but if we hold a general meeting of lawmakers on this issue, there is a possibility that the pros and cons will be very violent, and in normal cases, it may be good for a political party to express opinions freely and be transparent with the public. But for now, in a very urgent situation where we have to respond to Representative Lee Jae-myung, it is a bit burdensome to disclose the internal problems that we have to use as a negotiation strategy, and there are a lot of bad laws that we are really barely blocking with 108 lawmakers. If these parts go wrong, there is a risk that the wires will be slightly broken. I have that concern.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Then, will there be no general meeting of lawmakers regarding the special inspector?
◇Shin Dong-wook: No. For now, there are people who have suggested holding it, and they are worried about it, but if they ask to hold it, the floor leader cannot open it or do so on his own. There is no change in that position to hold a general meeting of the members. Some argue that the general meeting of lawmakers should be held next week at the latest, and that the special inspection team should be decided by voting, but most lawmakers are worried about this voting method.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Then. A general meeting of the members regarding this special inspector will be held, but the contents of the meeting will be
◇Shin Dong-wook: The chances are higher for now.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes, will we go behind closed doors?
◇Shin Dong-wook: It's hard for me to say anything about that. Some argue that they insist on discussing behind closed doors, and what is there to do? It is a matter that is known to the public anyway, so we don't have to keep it private among ourselves. There are also Supreme Council members who have asked to disclose publicly, so these are all open now to see how the situation will unfold on the day and whether it will be closed or open or not, whether to vote or delay the conclusion. I think you can look at it like that.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes, Choo Kyung-wook, the floor leader, convened a meeting of senior lawmakers yesterday morning and postponed it. Is there a background in acting?
◇Shin Dong-wook: That's... I was actually going to do it because it was just a scheduled schedule until yesterday morning, but suddenly CEO Choo Kyung-bu postponed it. I didn't just ask in detail, but I understood it in two ways. The first was that there was a possibility that our senior lawmakers might not be able to comfortably sell their opinions if we had a senior meeting because the media suddenly drew so much attention. And yesterday, there was a 100-day press conference by CEO Han Dong-hoon shortly after that. Therefore, it is not appropriate to have an event that can be interpreted in another way ahead of the party leader's 100-day press conference. I think that the aspect of consideration for CEO Han Dong-hoon might have been greater. Yes.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: But yesterday, in the party, the innovation and integration of conservatives were held at the same time as the press conference led by Rep. Yoon Sang-hyun. What's coming out of this is that the current situation is the same as it was when former President Park Geun Hye was impeached. It seems to be aimed at CEO Han Dong-hoon. How did you like it?
◇Shin Dong-wook: I don't know. I don't know exactly what that part is about. As I said earlier, there are various voices and there are two big trends within the party, and there is a slight difference in the intensity of the trend. And as representative Yoon Sang-hyun and representative Yoon Sang-hyun do, many people think of the current situation as a very dangerous situation, that is, on the eve of the impeachment of former President Park Geun Hye. I think there can be enough opinions to have that kind of opinion. So the flow of people who say that we should confront the special prosecutor very firmly is that we should not go like that because we had a very unfortunate experience at the time, but as I said earlier, I think Roh probably did this debate yesterday because it was scheduled a long time ago, but he didn't have to call for unnecessary interpretation at the same time as the party leader's press conference, but I think he's just pushing ahead because it was scheduled anyway.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. As you said, I have no choice but to ask you again about the special prosecutor. Rep. Ahn Cheol Soo needs to actively cooperate with the opposition to receive Kim Gun-hee's independent counsel. This is the position. There seems to be a change in some pro-Moon circles as well. How did you hear Ahn Cheol Soo's claim that he should receive such an independent counsel?
◇Shin Dong-wook: I don't know. First, our host used the expression "in cooperation with the opposition party," but it never cooperates with the opposition party. In particular, I saw the current situation at this parliamentary audit, and from my experience, I don't think that the Democratic Party of Korea will yield certain parts to us on this issue, so I think the expression of cooperating with the opposition party is inappropriate.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: To express that consensus is consensus
◇Shin Dong-wook: It sounds good to hear that it's an agreement, but we're not judging the situation by this situation because we've reached an agreement with the opposition party now. Therefore, the special prosecutor's problem has not changed at all from the fact that our floor's position so far cannot be responded to at all. Personally, however, Rep. Ahn Cheol Soo agreed with independent counsel Choi Sang-byung last time, so I agree with his argument that all issues be resolved in more harmonious cooperation with the opposition party. However, if you deal with the opposition party now, those things don't work at all, and the opposition party is openly talking about impeachment anyway, right? I 100% agree that we have to solve some of our internal problems in the pure sense of our thinking. However, since there is a concern that this could go in a very bad direction, it is not something we can say that easily, including lawmaker Yoon Sang-hyun. However, in order to push for these things, it is necessary to coordinate very carefully behind-the-scenes or grasp the atmosphere. However, there is nothing for us to evaluate what individual lawmakers say.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: You mean that the party's position is clear.
◇Shin Dong-wook: It's for sure yet.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: I'm in the president's office right now. I will not make a turnaround appointment ahead of the halfway point of my term next month. I expressed my intention like this. I think representative Han Dong-hoon called for this personnel reshuffle at a meeting with President Yoon Suk Yeol in a private meeting. In fact, he refused to organize the Lee line at the insistence of representative Han Dong-hoon, who is called the Lee line,
◇ Shin Dong-wook: Can you evaluate it? As for me. It doesn't feel natural to say that I will not do it anyway. In fact, personnel appointments should be made at any time, and people may not do it at any time. Especially in the past, it is right to make personnel appointments to reform the atmosphere and to make personnel appointments in areas that the public pointed out as having some problems at the halfway point of the administration. It seems to me that it is rather strange for the president's office to say that it will not do it, but there are many people who think that the reason for the strange thing to do it might be somewhere else. In particular, I don't know what you'll think, but it's true that the president's office is very burdensome if you mention a specific person's name and ask them to take personnel measures. So it's not appropriate to say hello at this time, but I don't think it's necessary to say hello, but it's a little subtle. So I need some personnel changes to the atmosphere by the end of this year, nevertheless. However, I hope that it will be done in a way that respects the president's right to personnel affairs. I'm looking at it like this.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: If so, I won't look like CEO Han Dong-woo is requesting a personnel reshuffle. the position of the presidential office
◇ Shin Dong-wook: Feeling like that
◆ Bae Seung-hee: It means you're going to evaluate it. Yes, I see. Mrs. Kim Gun-hee was in July again. It is said that it is a controversy over the first trial of the text with CEO Han Dong-hoon. At that time, it was known that he spoke to Heo Eun-ah, the leader of the New Reform Party. It is said that he called about this part because of the injury. The release of the contents and these parts are appropriate.
◇Shin Dong-wook: I don't know. I don't think the disclosure is very appropriate. However, I don't know if CEO Heo Eun-ah and First Lady Kim Geon-hee are close enough to have such a private conversation, but I think CEO Heo Eun-ah is drawing a line in this regard. If so, wouldn't it be important to see if they are close enough to talk about this for an hour on the phone? The president's wife can talk to anyone on the phone, especially if the other party was a former lawmaker of our party, but it's hard to understand why it's disclosed and controversial at this point, and I don't know the context.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see. Didn't Han Dong-won ask to form a parliamentary consultative body between the ruling and opposition parties? CEO Lee Jae-myung said to CEO Han Dong-hoon at the Supreme Council, "Let's not just talk about it, let's take a look." When will the ruling and opposition parties meet? Representative is
◇Shin Dong-wook: I don't know when we'll meet. Wouldn't CEO Lee Jae-myung want to meet him before his sentence? That's what I think, and that's why I think it's better not to meet before if you ask me. It is possible to predict what will be discussed in this matter, so I think the timing is actually more meaningful than the results of the discussion. Since November is a very crisis time for the Democratic Party of Korea, it seems that they will think a lot about at what point it will be more advantageous to meet the ruling party leader, but we don't need to be dragged around. Even if we meet, we need to take the lead in the meeting, but the Democratic Party said it would be done, but in fact, it is a proposal from over there to do this. It is not desirable for our party to continue to seem to be dragged around by such things as saying let's do it and wait a while.
◇ Shin Dong-wook: Even so, if our party is more proactive and the Democratic Party is trying to take advantage of the meeting politically, there is no need to meet now. I don't want to say,
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Okay. We've heard all about today's story. Thank you for the interview so far.
◇Shin Dong-wook: Yes, thank you.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: I was Shin Dong-wook, the spokesman for the People's Power Party. Thank you.
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