[News FM Lee Ik-seon Choi Soo-young Issue & People]
□ Broadcast date and time: October 28, 2024 (Mon)
□ Host: Lee Ik-seon, Choi Soo-young
□ Performers: Kim Ki-heung, former deputy spokesperson for the president's office, Choi Byung-cheon, head of the New Growth Economic Research Institute
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◇ Lee Ik-seon: Let's just pick the key points from the pouring news and organize them simply and clearly. We have two experts on "Issues Monday". We invited Maj. Gen. Jegal-ryang Choi Byung-cheon of the political analysis community, and Kim Ki-heung, a conservative handsome guy, as a deputy spokesman for the former president's office. Welcome.
☆ Choi Byung-cheon, ★ Kim Ki-heung: Hello.
◆ Choi Soo-young: Shall we take a look at the Realmeter poll that came out today and point it out? President Yoon Suk Yeol's approval rating stands at 24.6 percent. It has remained at 20 percent for five consecutive weeks. Director Choi, how do you analyze that the downward rigidity is showing a trend that seems to have collapsed?
☆ Choi Byung-cheon: Yes, the current 20% range has not yet been halfway through Yoon Suk Yeol's presidency since democratization in 1987 and since various polls have been compiled. It's only half of November 10th. It's the first half of his term so far. In the first half and the second half. However, after democratization in 1987, the opinion polls should be considered worse than they will be at the end of their term. It's a very, very unusual situation. And what's interesting is that the party's approval rating is Realmeter. According to the survey you just mentioned, the approval rating of the People's Power Party came out to 32.6 percent, but the president's approval rating came out to 24.6 percent. So about a third of those who support the power of the people do not support the president. And in other surveys, even in Daegu and North Gyeongsang Province, there are far more "not doing well" than "not doing well." Public opinion is showing a huge crisis signal overall, and the president's response to that is, "I'll be hit even if I throw a stone," sounds like he'll just ignore it a little bit, so I'm a little worried in many ways.
★ Kim Ki-heung: Even if I get hit by a stone, I'll just go. That's what I'm interpreting as saying about the reform agenda, which is a bit reform-oriented. I think we should accept the part that public sentiment is scary, and the message will come out then because the halfway point of the presidential office's term is based on November 10. As for the format, it has not been fixed yet whether it will be a public statement or a press conference. I think there will be some kind of low-key position. And I don't think there's a concrete approval rating like there used to be for President Yoon Suk Yeol, like the so-called former President Park Geun Hye, or the former President Moon Jae In. But I don't think it's bad. Once the approval rating of concrete falls, if it collapses, it's really out of control then. But if we do well, we go up and fall down. So for me, approval ratings are a kind of signal. You guys change. Reform and change are right in changing, but we also have that aspect that the party should not be divided in stability. Since there is some responsibility as the ruling party, the change is correct, but we need to consider how it should be changed. I'm thinking. As for the part where the approval rating remained at 20%, I think the big tone of change is correct.
☆ Choi Byung-cheon: To tell you a moment, I just talked about Realmeter media, but according to a Korean Gallup poll, people write free responses in a short answer. It's a method of filling out directly, but the number one negative evaluation comes out as Kim Gun-hee's problem. It was ranked first with about 15 percent, but the women's issue has never been ranked first in Korea since democratization or since polls developed. But now she's not doing any great national reform of the Republic of Korea. So, Kim Gun-hee is on a reform drive, and the people are not critical of it, but "Please solve the problem of First Lady Kim Gun-hee" is ranked first in the negative evaluation, and the president's decision to go to Busan Beomeosa Temple and get hit even if he throws a stone was the day after the meeting with representative Han Dong-hoon. So, to view it as a reform issue objectively, I think all the people would have accepted that I would carry the Kim Gun-hee issue like this in the context and timing.
★ Kim Ki-heung: I disagree on that. What it is is that CEO Han Dong-hoon is fully aware of some judicial risks of CEO Lee Jae-myung in November. If the bad news over there is going to be good for us, let's talk about the issue of First Lady Kim Gun-hee, but this problem got bigger as it became a conflict within the party in ways and various ways. So, when such a question is asked, among the various problems, the Kim Gun-hee problem is all big. Rather than being entirely big, there is such a problem, but this seems to be big as the opposition party continues to attack and the ruling party continues to rise. But that doesn't mean I'm neglecting it or feeling light. And the starting point of Representative Han Dong-hoon's question was that we should take Lee Jae-myung's risk and rebound from here, but the reality now is that October will be the last and November, and if the problem within the party grows, the result may be different from the original purpose. From that point of view, isn't there something you should be responsible for about the result, whether CEO Han Dong-hoon intended or not? So I think I should control the strength and weakness and look at the areas that are reflected and recognized.
◇ Profit line: Let me briefly outline the Realmeter poll. Realmeter surveyed 2,510 voters aged 18 or older nationwide from the 21st to the 25th at the request of the Energy Economy Newspaper in a wireless 97% wired 3% automatic response method. Details are available on the Realmeter or on the Central Public Opinion Review Board.
◆ Choi Soo-young: Let me also tell you a Gallup survey. The Gallup survey was conducted by Gallup Korea on the 22nd to 24th by telephone interviewing 1,001 adults with random wireless phone virtual numbers. For more information, please refer to the website of Gallup Korea or the Central Women's Review Committee. Chief Choi, let me ask you another question: Just a moment ago, the approval rating of the president and the approval rating of the people's power have been decoupling and decoupling. You said this, so what do you think is the reason why it was separated from the poll approval rating?
☆ Choi Byung-cheon: It can be described as decoupling, but it can actually be described as a subset. In reality, the flow of public opinion is that many ways that ordinary people perceive politics are understood through a person or leader. So, the two leaders of the People's Power, President Yoon Suk Yeol and Representative Han Dong-hoon, can be seen as two leaders from the perspective of supporters of the People's Power, and in the case of the Democratic Party, Lee Jae-myung and the rest of the leaders, but from the perspective of the People's Power supporters, they are fighting. So maybe if you ask representative Han Dong-hoon separately, wouldn't it be similar to the popular power party's approval rating if the government's approval rating for President Yoon Suk Yeol and the personal approval rating for representative Han Dong-hoon were added together? On the one hand, decoupling is not wrong, but for the time being, it seems to be divided in the process of arguing or differentiating, but we should not be relieved from the perspective of the Democratic Party. President Yoon Suk Yeol and representative Han Dong-hoon seem to be arguing with each other now, but there will be times when they will join forces again. So Democrats don't feel safe. This is because the opposition party does not have a higher approval rating than the Democratic Party, even though the power of the people is a little bit at the moment. than the approval rating of a party of people's strength The Democratic Party also needs to take a nervous approach while reflecting on various existing things. That's one of the reasons why I think like this.
◇ Profitship: Yes. Then the question seems to be where and how to find the exit strategy. The diagnosis is being made now.
★ Kim Ki-heung: For me, the President and the President's Office are from the public's perspective on the part of First Lady Kim Gun-hee. This is very difficult to some extent. However, when it comes to luxury bags, I think you need to be a little cautious when it comes to outside activities. However, as CEO Han Dong-hoon says, there is something to be done from the perspective of the president's spouse when it comes to halting all external activities. When I go on a diplomatic trip, I don't think I'm asking for that. As I said earlier, he took a stand in mid-November, when the turning point is around, so I didn't lose much in the general election, but in a way, it was a 2 to 2 draw, but he gave me a chance. Leadership that the president does because we got beaten up but gave us a chance. He said that he wants to make some reforms and that he would help the people and be in a low position as necessary for the very sustainable development of the Republic of Korea, regardless of his personal greed. Since I practiced the first train a little while ago, when the president and then candidate went to Seomun Market for the first time, a lot of people cheered for me. At that time, it was very hot after I finished, so as soon as I came into the car, I turned on the air conditioner and told the candidate that I was the prosecutor general at that time. You're in a good mood, aren't you? When I said it, they asked me to change the government rather than me. When I heard that, this person thinks like this when he's applauded. I think the president should also think about that now. And I think that could be the case.
◆ Choi Soo-young: So let me ask you an additional question, isn't November 10th the half-point day? As a result, he gave us various points of concern because he talked about his future strategy, but now there are reports that there will be a dialogue with the people. Then, the form of dialogue with the people or the contents of the inside and whether it can include an apology from First Lady Kim Gun-hee. Since you worked in the presidential office, I thought it would cover a little bit.
★ Kim Ki-heung: First of all, I talked about this for the first time on Channel A. What kind of focus will it be now? But since the press conference was held in May, I think they are thinking about talking to the people. If so, will the president make an apology on the occasion like he did in May, through a press question, and will Kim Gun-hee appear there with him? You'll see a lot of things like that. But on the other hand, that's what I think. So, what kind of apology from First Lady Kim Gun-hee is needed, and is it really right to do that in a public statement with the president? I think I need to look at it politically. Above all, I think what's next is important when you apologize. I think it would be better to take a low position in a certain part and refrain from having an informal schedule rather than an official one. I got a luxury bag for this, but it's legally impossible to punish. Because of the deficiencies of the law. But the public saw it all. It's that part because it's inappropriate. It's a little different from acknowledging what the opposition party demands. So, if the president and the first lady do it in this regard, I think the Korean people will not think about the opposition party's demands.
◆ Choi Soo-young: Yes. Director Choi then talked about the conversation with the people he just talked about, but in January, the president couldn't stop talking through KBS talks. And then I expressed something I'm disappointed about. Then do you think something more advanced will be included if it goes into the content this time?
☆ Choi Byung-cheon: I can't predict the future, but we can't know the future. President Yoon Suk Yeol has expressed this position several times at press conferences, but he couldn't be out of line as he said earlier. It was like that after the general election, but in fact, the general election was lost, but at first, he apologized for it, and later said it behind his back, with the existing political grammar that is not normal. Originally, in politics, the tendency to knot once controversial and then move on to the next page is the basic grammar of a certain politics, and it is normal for the president to apologize, but it has rarely happened. So I think it would have been different from now if she had apologized formally or sincerely apologized at the time. So I think it's a common pattern for President Yoon Suk Yeol to enjoy a few beats or three beats of communication with the public. Should I say that people don't do it when there's a lot of complaints or complaints, but when they give up, they just talk about it? Again, I predict that President Yoon Suk Yeol is unlikely to get a message that the people can accept.
★ Kim Ki-heung: But let me tell you briefly, the president couldn't be out of line at the KBS meeting. After that expression, we held a press conference in May after the general election. At that time, the president explicitly said, "I apologize for causing concern to the people due to inappropriate behavior."
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