- Special Inspector General's general vote, unprecedented situation.Vote
if there is a middle-of-the-road remark- Hong Joon Pyo, over-expression now..It's inappropriate to speak in a side-by-side form as a senior party member
- There will always be conflict with the president's office.Han Dong-hoon wants change and reform for the success of the 尹 government
- It is regrettable that the white paper for the general election does not include changes in public opinion.We need to clear it up here
- Whether the second office will operate or not, and it is expected to affect the 100th day of the inauguration of South Korea
- Listening to public sentiment that the Busan Geumjeong election should clear up the risks of Mrs. Kim
◆ [YTN Radio SHINYUL's news]
■ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (17:00-19:00)
■ Air date: October 28, 2024 (Monday)
■ Proceedings: Shin Yul, Professor of Political Science and Diplomacy at Myongji University
■ Dialogue: Jung Sung-guk, member of the People's Power,
* The text below may differ from the actual broadcast content, so please check the broadcast for more accurate information.
◆ Shinyul: YTN Radio Shinyul's News Head-to-head Match Part 2 begins. In the second part of the face-to-face interview, I'm Jung Sung-guk, a member of the People's Power. You're in the studio right now. Please come in.
◇ Jung Sung-guk: Nice to meet you.
◆ Shin Yul: These days, it's going to winter, but I think the power of the people is always winter. I'm sorry, but spring always comes when spring will come. I think it's a question of when he'll come, but representative Han Dong-hoon and floor leader Choo Kyung-ho had a tea time today, is that right?
◇ Jung Sung-guk: I didn't hear the news. As far as I've confirmed, there hasn't been such an official meeting.
◆ Sin Yul: The reason we're paying attention to this meeting is because it's actually a precautionary thing to say that this is a special inspector. It is to prevent something that may be in the future, and the work that happened in the past has nothing to do with the establishment of a special inspector, but even a special inspector is a kind of justification. Shouldn't we pay attention to whether representative Han Dong-hoon and floor leader Choo Kyung-ho met because of this? How do you think this will work? Special Inspector on this issue
◇ Jung Sung-guk: I saw the situation accurately because I was in that meeting when CEO Han Dong-hoon mentioned the special inspector at that time. The CEO said it clearly. In order to get rid of the issue of First Lady Kim Gun-hee, we were the president's pledge and a promise to the people. I'll be a special inspector. I've nailed it until the deadline. Before the first trial of Lee Jae-myung on November 15, the floor leader Choo Kyung-ho said that this should be decided, but this was seen as a conflict when he said, "This is a floor issue." There are arguments about whose authority this is, and we are wondering why floor leader Choo Kyung-ho is doing so much when he said something he can say in public opinion or justification. Now that we've come this far, things have gotten bigger. So we have some assignments left to solve.
◆ Sin-ryul: But if we vote, both sides will be destroyed. So how can we conclude if we don't vote? Show of hands. I don't know if it's a vote. What should I do?
◇ Jung Sung-guk: This was unprecedented right now. We didn't do a lot of it because we're the first-term lawmakers, but we've never thought about it going to a vote as we keep looking at it, and it's only in the party. That's why we're facing an unprecedented situation. If we open a meeting now, even if we don't vote, wouldn't we be able to focus our opinions on one side during the fierce debate process? In the end, people in the middle expressed their opinions and said, "It's not like we're close to each other, but lawmakers in the middle also said,
."
◆ Shinryul: Rather than being in the middle, just looking at the faces
◇ Jung Sung-guk: If even such people are a little focused when they say something like that, wouldn't it be possible even if we don't go to the vote until the end? But if there is a tight race, I think we should not even vote.
◆ Sin-ryul: But I personally think that we can't blame it for that. The most important thing for lawmakers is whether their political life will be extended somehow, and considering the timing of the next general election, I think that's the most reasonable choice for me now. That's probably the standard, but I think what each thinks is the most important thing. There are a lot of fights between close friends. But the mayor of Hong Joon Pyo used a very harsh expression to a close friend. Yes, how do you see it?
◇ Jung Sung-guk: Yes, I think the mayor of Hong Joon Pyo is an adult, an elder, a big party leader, and a presidential candidate in our party, right? That's right. Before I become a politician, I always watch it through the media, but I think you're expressing yourself a little too much. To be honest, I'm now a Gano. I'm also becoming a lemmings. However, even though we are actually new to the National Assembly, I was recruited through the power of the people in the process of entering the National Assembly and was the president of the Korea Federation of Teachers, who served as the head of the largest teachers' organization in Korea. You're such a person as
◆ Shin Yul: Actually, there are a lot of people who used to be members of the National Assembly.
◇ Jung Sung-guk: I think it's a little too much for a person with that history to come into the National Assembly and express these parts in a way that shares some kind of change and reform with the representative. Also, if you can give any advice, you are not speaking in the form of spreading it to one side without thinking about public opinion or anything like that. There may be a shortcoming of Han. You can also criticize and condemn that as a senior citizen. However, if you express that everything is Han Dong-hoon is a bad person and those who follow Han Dong-hoon are Reming or Gano, it is not a position as an elder of the party. I want to express that kind of regret.
◆ Sin-ryul: But whatever it is, so if there is a conflict in the presidential office or something like this, it is a must-win. But what did CEO Han Dong-hoon say? We said that we are a much healthier and much more democratic party than the Democratic Party of Korea, but both sides of the conflict acknowledge the existence of the conflict. Is there an end to the conflict? How do you see it?
◇ Jung Sung-guk: I think there will always be conflict. Because I have the meaning of CEO Han Dong-hoon saying this. Isn't there a lot of judicial risks for Lee Jae-myung of the Democratic Party right now? However, no one out of those 170 people really speaks of any reflection on the representative's judicial risk or our various parts. For BTS, we can only see that we're in sync. Still, it is meaningful for our party to develop a healthy democracy, find alternatives, put forward solutions, and try to solve them, even though discussions have been made about the decline in approval ratings for the president and Kim Gun-hee, concerns, and changes in reform. So, of course, I understand that you are worried about the conflict going to division, but that doesn't mean that we have to follow without conflict division, right? I think I'll go wrong before the division if we cover it up because the public opinion is clearly sending us warning lights right now. I think it's already wrong and it's going to collapse before it's divided. Because I'm worried about that, the representative didn't even try to set an angle with the president. I am telling the President that I hope for change and reform for the success of the Government of Yoon Suk Yeol in order to make it work in a way. Here's what I think.
◆ Shin Yul: Have you seen the white paper? I didn't even know the white paper came out. I didn't know today, but I had a place to go with my mother-in-law. After class, my mother-in-law went somewhere, and the reporter called me, so a white paper came out. It's this. I didn't see the white paper. What should I say? I did, but I actually served as the vice chairman of the white paper for the 21st general election. So I think this person called me. How did you feel when you saw the white paper this time?
◇ Jung Sung-guk: I actually came out of the top today. So I actually looked at the booklet for a while today. I couldn't read it carefully. I just looked at the contents roughly, but I don't think it was enough to make them lean to one side as we were worried, so let's vote on this. Let's end it here. And some of the people who were in the Supreme Council today participated in the general election white paper TF. Since there are people like that, there were a few opinions, but that's why this white paper is wrong. It should be made only when the white paper is made again. There was no such opinion at all, and there were some shortcomings, but I think it became a story like this, let's just admit it as it is, and let's just vote and announce it again.
◆ Shin Yul: I did it because Secretary-General Jung Yang-seok is the chairman and I'm the vice chairman, but the white paper is that. No matter how you make it, I don't want to be criticized. That's right. That's how it's supposed to be. I didn't hear it if it was supposed to be like that, but I'm supposed to take it like this, and the second thing is that I'm writing a white paper because the reason why I'm writing a white paper is that I shouldn't repeat the same mistake. The white paper is like that. I didn't see it. For this reason, there will be a lot of data such as opinion polls. I hope this doesn't happen in the future. I'm curious if this kind of development happened.
◇ Jung Sung-guk: Yes. I think we talked about that a little bit today. I think our professor just saw it with an intuitive feeling that he saw it a little more accurately.
◆ Shin Yul: They didn't even see the cover.
◇ Jung Sung-guk: But there were always those things that I was disappointed about when the white paper was published, so I think the professor expects that, but there was that part today. Didn't public opinion fluctuate a lot during the general election? In fact, public opinion didn't go on a regular basis like this
◆ Shin Yul: You must know because you had the election yourself. When was the inflection point
◇ Jeong Seong-guk: It was very windy. Especially from the beginning of March, it was a time when we were having a hard time. In line with such a change in public opinion, our response was a failure. It's a shame. It'd be nice if you could go in exactly like this, but I don't think I could go in that part. So, the most important thing is how we responded when public opinion fluctuates in the most sensitive areas, but listening to that story, in many ways, in terms of manpower and time,
◆ Shin Yul: Time is early. Do you know when the general election white paper starts? Originally, there's a general election in April. Then, if you set up a TF for the white paper like this, it starts around June. That's also in the early part of June. The reason I don't know well is because I'm going around everywhere. We can't go around together unless it's on vacation. I started in early and mid-June, so this came out especially late. It came out very late. Yes, it comes out in early September. It's coming out, but this time, as far as I remember, it started in late April and early May. That's enough. The liver is
◇ Jung Sung-guk: So I think it's like that now. I think he might have had some practical skills. The timing to come out, so if there is no big problem today, I think it would be right to organize the white paper here.
◆ Sin-ryul: That's right. And the people who wrote the white paper did a good job, but you can think of it as being criticized after you write it. Anyway, CEO Han Dong-hoon will be celebrating his 100th day. And the president of Yoon Suk Yeol is now halfway through his term. I don't know whether President Yoon Suk Yeol will hold a press conference or not, but CEO Lee Han Dong-hoon said he will. What I'm really curious about is that around the halfway point of his term, President Yoon Suk Yeol will make a personnel reshuffle in the presidential office. First, the second annex will be operated next month. Will this affect the 100-day press conference of representative Han Dong-hoon? How do you see it?
◇ Jung Sung-guk: Yes, it does have some influence. But of course, this starting point is a little similar. It's this Wednesday. 100 days. The halfway point of the president's term is next month, so I think there's a little difference in thinking now. Didn't Han also present these three things when he met with the president? I told the president the seriousness of personnel reform and the suspension of the woman's public activities, but I think the president's perception was a little different. I think there were reactions like that. So, there is a clear difference between what the President is saying about reform and what Han wants, because of the difference in thinking. Then, can't we think that the contents of the changes mentioned earlier in the Presidential Office are not satisfactory to Han's eyes and should not have this much?
◇ Jung Sung-guk: Then, we will need to coordinate this in the future, and there will be some differences of opinion, so maybe there will be more conflicts. So we'll have to wait and see these parts.
◆ Shin Yul: So the framework of personnel reform pursued by the president and the framework of representative Han Dong-hoon may be a little different, right?
◇ Jung Sung-guk: There could be a temperature difference.
◆ Sin-ryul: But it's true that this is very difficult if we continue like this. I told you the outline of the Korean Gallup poll in the first part, so I won't repeat it again. If you are curious, you can refer to the Korean Gallup I mentioned at the end. What is it now in the Korean Gallup poll? The president's approval rating has dropped to 20%. Compared to last week, however, the public's approval rating has increased. The second is actually the by-election last time. There is an analysis like this, Geumjeong-gu, Busan. I've been to Ganghwa twice. One of the representatives went to Geumjeong-gu eight times. It's number six. I went six times. We talked a lot about differentiation there. So, there is also an analysis that the difference was more than 22 percentage points. What this means is that in the end, there is an analysis that Han's differentiation strategy has raised the public's support rate and won the election for the head of Geumjeong-gu by such a large margin. What do you think?
◇ Jung Sung-guk: I agree with that. I'm also in Busan and I've been to a lot of supportive campaigns.
◆ It must have been built again.
◇ Jung Sung-guk: I also spoke twice on the campaign trail. a speech of support But the reason why the representative has some confidence is because it is burdensome to face the president, but the reason why he has confidence and conviction is because we met a lot through the election this time. When I come to Busan six times, I spend three hours walking through the Oncheon Stream and meeting nonstop. However, listening to the public opinion, some people are worried about the conflict between the president and Han, but those who are much louder than those voices must change the power of the people now and clear up her risks. Also, we have this conviction that the president must show a posture of change and reform, and we also have a lot of people in Busan next to us, and Busan has achieved a tremendous 22% this time, right? 22% from the last general election. I know that Rep. Baek Jong-heon had 13% last time. It came out a lot more. I don't think this can come out without consent to Han Dong-hoon's will to reform. The approval rating for the president has continued to decline, so I just agreed with that analysis, and this is not just a matter of Busan. I don't think that the difference is particularly unique to Busan anywhere else.
◆ Shin Yul: In the TK region, the president's approval rating was about 26%. According to a previous Gallup survey in Korea, the power of the people in the TK region has more than 60% of the people's power support rate. So there's a significant gap. So I think it's necessary to analyze these things closely and deal with them well in the future. Just one more thing. I think Rep. Jung Sung-guk should be the spokesperson, are you the spokesperson? He has excellent delivery and is amazing. Let's stop here today. Thank you. Until now, it has been lawmaker Jeong Seong-guk, the power of the people.
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