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■ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (17:00-19:00)
■ Air date: December 12, 2024 (Thursday)
■ Proceedings: Shin Yul, Professor of Political Science and Diplomacy at Myongji University
■ Dialogue: Lee Yang-soo, member of the People's Power (Chairman of the TF Committee for Stabilizing the People's Power State)
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◇Shinryul: Shinryul's News Head-to-head Match Part 3 begins. It's time for a front-facing interview for the third part. The person we will meet at this time is Rep. Lee Yang-soo of the People's Power. I'm on the phone right now. You're out, aren't you?
◆Lee Yang-soo: Yes, hello. I'm Lee Yang-soo.
◇ Shin Yul: How did you see the president's statement to the public today?
◆ Yang-soo Lee: Yes, you've talked a lot about a lot of things, but I heard it while thinking that the Constitutional Court's impeachment trial and criminal trial will be coming up, and it's the beginning of the argument about that. In fact, the day after martial law, the Democratic Party of Korea was scheduled to impeach the chairman of the Board of Audit and Inspection and the prosecutors of Lee Jae-myung's investigation trial. So, if it were not for the constitutional amendment, the Democratic Party of Korea would impeach such an unreasonable impeachment, and the public opinion would be a little worse for the Democratic Party of Korea due to such a national backlash, and Chairman Lee Jae-myung was sentenced to prison in the first trial under the election law, so Chairman Lee Jae-myung could go home if he waited for about six months in the second trial and the third trial. I have regrets about why the martial law allowed only the opposition party to get excited and prevent us from growing the power of our people.
◇ Shin-ryul: Looking at today's discourse, I thought that it would completely neutralize the People's Power Task Force team that Rep. Lee Yang-soo was in charge of.
◆Lee Yang-soo: Realistically, as of 9:30 today, I think our task force team should say that the TF is gone. I think it's a loss of function.
◇ Shin Yul: That's right. A function is a loss. There's no meaning in existence. Actually, the reason why I'm asking this is because the president said in a two-minute apology five days ago that he would entrust everything, including his term, to the party, right? But today, I'm completely reversing that. How much do you think it will work for the people to explain their position by reversing their words in five days?
◆Lee Yang-soo: According to a poll released today, 74.8% said they should be impeached. So, the public's feelings about the declaration of martial law are very bad. In fact, I think you said a few days ago that you would leave everything to the party in consideration of public sentiment. But today, I felt that he was a little different from his attitude at that time, and that he would go to trial and respond to everything with legal principles. Therefore, I feel very sorry that apologies and apologies should be given priority for causing public disappointment and anxiety to many people. I think you have failed to properly grasp the public's feelings.
◇ Shin-ryul: Now that you're talking about it, some say that you apologize for two minutes and you say you'll talk for 29 minutes. What else did the election commission say? The election commission said that President Yoon's statement is self-denial of the presidential election system in which he was elected. He also said that the presidential statement of Yoon Suk Yeol clearly confirmed that the unauthorized occupation of the NEC was unconstitutional. What do you think?
◆Lee Yang-soo: Actually, the election fraud issue of the election watchdog was not something that happened yesterday or today, and many people just raised it.
◇ Shin Yul: Suspicion. Not a problem
◆Lee Yang-soo: So our party actually went to the NEC to investigate whether this fraudulent election was possible. And we knew that it was practically impossible, so we announced it, and of course, those things were reported to the president in various ways. However, there may still be poor election management in the process of the election fraud. I'm not good at managing, so the ballots are just circulating.
◇ Shinryul: Something like putting it in a plastic bag last time.
◆ Yang-soo Lee: That's a disciplinary issue now. You couldn't drive the entire basic election of the election watchdog as a fraudulent election, but you're raising this issue now, but what I don't understand is the president. Then, if there is a problem with the NEC, you can check the NEC through various legal and institutional devices. However, it is very regrettable that martial law should be used to clarify the suspicion of election fraud by the NEC.
◇ Shin Yul: If you look at today's contents, I actually did martial law for a warning. In this way, I understand, but even if some admit that the Democratic Party was too much, in other words, some argue that it is a warning to put up with a knife just because I can't put up with it. What do you think?
◆Lee Yang-soo: Many people agree with that, right? It is true that the Democratic Party of Korea is impeaching and dominating various state affairs. In fact, during martial law, you know when you present a statement. In front of that, the Democratic Party of Korea has been doing all along, including the reduction of the budget bill, impeachment, and so on, declaring martial law at the end. This is not it, so please come forward and judge the Democratic Party. Please give me the Democratic Party a whirlwind. If we went to the appeal side like this, it would have been more justified. In fact, the Democratic Party of Korea did something wrong, but that's why we should do it in martial law. So, I don't think it's convincing under common sense to say that martial law should be enforced by mobilizing soldiers, but I still don't understand how our president thought that much. I can't, but today's conversation happened anyway, and I saw it as a feeling of starting such a defense for legal response to it and legal response to the trial.
◇Shin Yul: Let me ask you a second about the breaking news just now. CJB Cheongju Broadcasting reported this. Yonhap News also reported that the president of Yoon Suk Yeol has legislated and I have done 42 presidential ordinances. In the end, after the president made his statement today, he will exercise his powers until he becomes himself. Isn't it like this? What do you think?
◆Lee Yang-soo: That's how it should be considered to have been sanctioned. Originally, you decided not to appoint the party and exercise any authority. So I decided to stay in the official residence without going to work from the official residence. That's why we created plans such as resignation from February to March and the presidential election from April to May, in a way that does not work and the party comes up with various measures to exclude duties. But now that I deny all those plans at once, in the end, I have to do my job as president now. I think the logic has progressed so far. So, if you do such a task now, it should be said that you eventually returned to the president's original work.
◇ Shin-ryul: So from the people's point of view, I might think that it would be more unstable. Of course, the president made it clear in his last apology that there is no second martial law, but as I said earlier, for example, he said he would appoint his term to the party, but he easily reversed it. Isn't it a situation where the people can become more anxious now?
◆ Yang-soo Lee: Of course. I don't think there can be a second martial law again. It's because the military and ministries agree with it. You can't do that because there are no people, but anyway, through martial law, he said he wouldn't do anything, and various measures were made to exclude his duties, but he refused all of them and went up to work. Then, it's a behavior that's different from the original promise, public expectations, and public predictions, so it's very worrisome, but actually, our TF team didn't make it. It's actually very stable.
◇ Shin Yul: So, you're talking about the February presidential election, April presidential election, March presidential election, May presidential election, right?
◆ Yang-soo Lee: Yes, because we're going to be impeached now. Then it's actually unclear when the impeachment will end. Originally, it was supposed to be done within 180 days within 6 months, but this is the admonition rule, and if the president actively raises witnesses against it, the impeachment trial is supposed to apply mutatis mutandis to the criminal law trial and the administrative trial. Then it could get longer. And this national opinion is divided, and above all, it should be divided into two sides during the impeachment trial. You have to roll it. During protests and rallies, if you look at the past eight years ago, foreign credibility has declined, and then tourists visiting Korea have also fallen, making it very difficult for ordinary people. So, the president could step down in a stable situation with minimal damage to the working-class economy as uncertainty was cleared up because of the clarity of stepping down in February or March faster than the presidential impeachment and the presidential election held in April or May. I really don't understand why the president is taking such a schedule with this impeachment trial, which is not going to end when he has a plan for the people, but the uncertainty is rising, the country is in chaos, the economy is in trouble, and when it will end.
◇ Shin-ryul: Well, I'm sure you've seen President Yoon more than I have, so I've only seen him twice. When I was the presidential candidate's TV debate, I watched it twice. I was the president of Yoon Suk Yeol at the time, but that's all. Wait, I can't judge that I was the president. Anyway, I didn't know this would happen, so isn't the only way to impeach now anyway?
◆Lee Yang-soo: In fact, yesterday, I reported the TF bill to the party leadership and to the Congress, and the lawmakers gave me their opinions on it again. So it's a shame that the party leadership should have persuaded more actively with this and done it in various ways in a way that the president can accept anyway. And the president did all of those things and said today, "Go to impeachment yourself." Then I'll deal with the impeachment trial like this. That's how I accepted it.
◇ Shin Yul: So the pro-Yoon in the party will be in favor of impeachment?
◆Lee Yang-soo: So far, our party has rejected the party's argument last week. And I'll negotiate with the Democrats on a number of proposals. That's how the party holds the party's view, but on the 14th, the Democratic Party of Korea has now scheduled a plenary session of the impeachment vote. Then before that, we get together at the parliamentary assembly to discuss whether to take it as it is or change it, and if there are more than two-thirds numbers in the parliamentary assembly
◇Mystery: That's how you turn it upside down.
◆ Lee Yang-soo: You can change the party's argument. So before that, I think the party leadership and the newly elected floor leadership today will really understand what Yongsan means. I think we will understand the meaning of Yongsan and push for a change in the party's theory in consideration of the current situation.
◇ Shin Yul: Rep. Lee Yang-soo, are you going to attend the vote for now?
◆Lee Yang-soo: Since I'm a party member, I'm going to decide whether I participate in the vote or approve it according to the party's theory.
◇ Shin Yul: Representative Kwon Sung-dong was elected as the floor leader at today's general meeting of the floor members. What are the implications of this? Does it mean that the vested interests of the pro-yoon will continue to be maintained? What is it? What do you think?
◆Lee Yang-soo: Actually, before the floor leader election, there were a lot of negative reports about Kwon Sung-dong's candidacy. He is the core of the pro-yoon, but he is dreaming of the revival of the pro-yoon because he became that person, but Rep. Kwon Sung-dong was the core of the pro-yoon during the last presidential election. I was the secretary general. And he was the one who led the presidential election to victory, but after that, he kept suggesting the right thing to the president and saying the right thing, but in fact, four months after the floor leader, he was knocked out by his friends.
◇Sinryul: When was Cherry Ttabong?
◆ Lee Yang-soo: That's about it. With those things, I was forced to quit, so I haven't had a good relationship with the president since then. But he didn't talk about it anywhere. Anyway, Kwon Sung-dong, the floor leader, is not the type to push through such irrational and irrational things with his own power, but he has experience, and now he is very friendly with people. And I'm sure that I won't lead the party in such an unreasonable and moral direction because I always say something that's the same as the outside and the inside, but I'm not the type to decide by myself, but I'm the type to openly talk to lawmakers and draw conclusions transparently.
◇ Shin Yul: What do you think is a reasonable choice right now, in your view, Representative Lee Yang-soo?
◆ Lee Yang-soo: I don't know. I can't make a decision, but if I were to speak at the party's parliamentary assembly, I understand that the president started pleading for impeachment and criminal trials today, sending me to the Constitutional Court. So I'm thinking that going to impeachment would suit Yongsan and the public's eye level.
◇Shin Yul: One more thing, CEO Han Dong-hoon is talking about a lot of things right now. What do you think about this going to the system of the emergency committee of the people's power, and that it will eventually cause Han Dong-hoon to come down? CEO Han Dong-hoon's fate is
◆Lee Yang-soo: CEO Han Dong-hoon is actually quick when emergency martial law occurs.
◇ Shin Yul: That's right. Good job.
◆ Lee Yang-soo: Good job. So I have some credit for those things. Also, before that, the president and the president and the party leader collide with each other, so there is a bit of excess. Anyway, it's not right to evaluate the person who is doing his best, but regardless of how well he does it and what he does, if there is a huge whirlwind called impeachment of the president, the party will probably fall into a whirlwind. If that happens, CEO Han Dong-hoon will have to run for president again anyway, so I think he will sort out his future.
◇ Shin Yul: I see. Senator, thank you very much for your words today. Thank you. Until now, it has been Rep. Lee Yang-soo of the People's Power. I would like to tell you that the poll Realmeter mentioned earlier by Representative Lee Yang-soo is an ARS-type poll of 507 people aged 18 or older nationwide on the 11th at the request of the Energy Economy Newspaper. For more information, please visit the website of the Central Election Public Opinion Review Committee.
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