Shin Kyung-min said, "President's office should take a surprise action to prevent deplorable actions."

[News FM Lee Ik-seon Choi Soo-young Issue & People]
□ Broadcast Date: October 15, 2024 (Tue)

□ Host: Lee Ik-seon, Choi Soo-young
□ Cast: Shin Kyung-min, former lawmaker Jung Ok-im

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◇ Interest line: A pledge of political speech that has been strongly criticized for the news of political interest. I'll try to solve it in Kyungok High School. Former lawmaker Jung Ok-im and former lawmaker Shin Kyung-min are here. Please come in.

★ Jung Ok Im, ☆ Shin Kyung Min: Hello.

◇ Profit line: No. . My acquaintance asked me why this is Gyeongokgo, so I've been lazy again, so I combined the Okja of Rep. Jeong Ok-im and the Gyeongja of former Rep. Shin Kyung-min to name the corner Gyeongokgo.

◈ Choi Soo-young: Actually, in our herbal medicine, there is no other herbal medicine that is as thick as Gyeongokgo that is really good for the body. Your words are Yeouido supplements.

★ Jeongokim, ☆ Shin Kyung Min: Thank you.

◇ Lee Ik-seon: And for your information, before we start today, we're going to do a radio listening survey from today, so I'll give you a brief guide. Are you calling me? I'll get a call. I would appreciate it if you could remember YTN FM radio issue and people to do a listening rate survey.

◈ Choi Soo-young: First of all, the by-elections are just around the corner. But after that, it is said that it is expected to be early next week, but it seems that President Yoon and Representative Han Dong-hoon will have a private meeting with each other. We also checked the presidential office, but if you predict the atmosphere, what do you think will happen to Representative Shin?

☆ Shin Kyung-min: Isn't everything on the agenda? And every day, there are a lot of articles about Dr. Myung's revelations or related articles, so it must be related to Mrs. Kim. But there are many reports that the prosecution is weighing Deutsche Motors over whether to indict him or not, and they will go for non-prosecution right after the election. So, what will shake the nation not only this week but also in the future will be the result of this by-elections, especially now the glory of the festival, but we don't know if this result will be positive or not prosecuted. I don't know what the prosecution will do in the end.Everyone knows that Ma is not prosecuted right now, and these two, and this one after this, the presidential office keeps lowering this as bold, but I think he's trying to dilute it by putting a lot of people in it. I don't know if it's a one-on-one meeting, but the question is when it takes place, and the atmosphere and the most important thing is that none of it is easy. Looking at it like that, I wonder what it means if the results are bad even if they say they meet. But it's an obvious prediction in a way that now I'm talking about Yoon Dokdae, and now it's inevitable to become Yoon Dokdae. However, I am personally pessimistic about the results, although the Korean-German University is now reunited and meets. In that sense, this week's atmosphere and next week's atmosphere are thin ice for the National Power Party, the ruling party, and people on various sides of the aisle who are in power. Isn't it a very difficult situation? So for the DP, it's okay to just watch, and in fact, the DP is not saying much right now. I'm saving my words and I think all the guidelines to close your mouth as much as possible are going on right now, and I think I agree with all of them. From the Democratic Party's point of view, I think it will be a very happy situation just by watching.

★ Jung Ok-im: Representative Shin Kyung-min described it as just watching. It's coming out in the polls right now. The difference in approval ratings between the Democratic Party of Korea and the people's power was not that big until recently, but according to the polls commissioned by one media company, there seems to be quite a difference, so the Democratic Party of Korea is probably taking a breath and waiting and watching. Because the whole country, which is too easy to score points even if they stay still, is unfolding in front of them right now. I think we should look at this issue in a framework that is bigger than the president and the party leader's private meeting. In my opinion, as a person who has watched politics so far, the main thing has already exploded. But the situation in our country. Once, something opens up. Then, it's not often blocked in the middle. It shows a phenomenon that lasts for a long time. Depending on what is said in the mouth of a person named Myung Tae-kyun and in the mouth of Kang, who worked with him, a bigger situation may be expressed than now. If you look at it that way, would it be possible to stop it now by saying that there is a bigger shield? So as a national power, I think I told you last time, but isn't Plan A and Plan C necessary now in addition to Plan B? Look at it like this. So, whether or not to have a private meeting now, or whether or not to have a private meeting next, or approaching the presidential office in this way still doesn't realize the urgency and urgency of the situation, or let's avoid this situation and buy time for now.

◈ Choi Soo-young: But from the perspective of the presidential office, I think the president's office is entering for a while today. If representative Han Dong-hoon meets with Representative Shin, so, whether it's a meeting with the president alone, to what extent do you think he'll ask for the presidential office's position now?

☆ Shin Kyung-min: CEO Han Dong-hoon just said a few things publicly. Now that I'm talking about the official schedule, I think that's also gone. I don't think it's that bad.

◈ Choi Soo-young: Please refrain from public schedules.

☆ Shin Kyung-min: It's not that bad, it's my secretariat. I think it's the special inspector. Myung Tae-kyun just released a text message this morning. Now, if you look there, it's 100% certain that he's referring to the president, but the president's office has just done something. I said it refers to my brother, but if you look at it, the keyword is, "What do you know, you're ignorant and immature?" These three words will now be a very honest evaluation of your wife who evaluates the president. If this happens, the president can't quit the presidential system. And the president's wife can't quit. In this way, we are thinking about what to do in a situation where we don't quit, what kind of second-affiliated office, refrain from official schedules, and we can't satisfy the people with this kind of thing. Then, based on this situation until this morning, we will accept the report card of tomorrow's by-elections, accept Deutsche Motors' decision to indict him, and we don't know if it's an answer or not, but it's almost clear what representative Han should ask for when he meets this. You have to stop everything from everything. If you don't quit everything and feel like you're starting anew, it won't be easy to come forward in front of the people now.

◇ Lee Ik-seon: But now that there is a by-election right around the corner, what do you think these stories of representative Han Dong-hoon and the intensity of his remarks will play in the actual election votes? Rep. Chung?

★ Jeongokim: In fact, since a private meeting was held before the election, certain remarks and arguments of the representative are accepted to some extent. Then what effect did it have on the election results now? There is a basis for saying that they didn't give it out, but in this situation, are you going to just have a private meeting and now have a private meeting or not? It's not easy to estimate the effect because people say that it's a private meeting. I don't think it's going to be that effective. However, some of the people's power and the Democratic Party of Korea say that representative Han Dong-hoon's responsibility may arise when an unexpected result comes out. Therefore, it can be interpreted that Han Dong-hoon, as a representative, did he preemptively talk about the issue of Mrs. Lee before the election? But the way I see it is that regardless of the election results, as soon as the election is over, a solo meeting is held. Then, the first effective way to solve this problem is that even if it's not completely effective, CEO Han Dong-hoon has already said what he will ask for. Rather, there is no other way than to make an unconventional decision that is bigger than what representative Han Dong-hoon demanded in the presidential office preemptively. But right now, in the so-called presidential office that representative Han Dong-hoon said, it's not 10 times, but about 7 times. I asked them to organize about these people, but there are no such people. Seeing that he draws the line just like that, saying that there are no such aides who move under some orders from First Lady Kim Gun-hee, I wonder if he can make such a drastic move. It's the same even when I talked about you a while ago. It's actually quite a surprise. Apart from our interpretation of the negative intention of this person's disclosure of such things one by one, there is skepticism that the presidential office can make such a drastic move under such circumstances, but in a big way, it seems that the safety of the conservative party and the conservative government could be shaken. So I told you earlier that the spring water has no choice but to explode, but then the person who will do his best to stop it must be the person who took a large part of the responsibility for it. Then, if a solo meeting is held even after the election is over, what other alternative is there other than the president of the presidential office to make a surprise move so that representative Han Dong-hoon has nothing more to say? I think so.

◈ Choi Soo-young: As you just said, anyway, in the close circle, Kim's activities are refraining from being active, plus alpha is what Rep. Chung said now. I think I keep talking about plus alpha. But now, the construction of the second annex is almost over, so it will be launched soon. I think we're talking about the special inspection team, so what else is there? In your opinion, what level of response do you think should be made for the whole country to cruise a little bit again?

☆ Shin Kyung-min: I feel like I started from the beginning, and what Chung said over there is a surprising level of context. That's why quitting is impossible. Except for that, it's not like we're going to do it completely from the beginning. Anyway, we're going to do volunteer work for the second annex, set up the second annex with seven people, build it in the building, and change the floors, so the people's hearts are being criticized. I don't think it's going to be like, "You're good." So I don't think it's the right time to play with words, asking if it's a one-on-one or an answer. But that's what I'm doing right now. And it's not the time to play with words like it was my brother. What I'm emphasizing from the beginning is that we need to take a surprising step further than what a surprising representative is asking the people to do from the beginning. If you study this now and talk about it from the perspective of the people's power, it's a problem right now. Winning the Geumjeong-gu election Geumjeong-gu District is what the president has. In fact, representative Han has only been asking for it, and if the president gave an answer, he wouldn't have had to worry about Geumjeong constituency like this. But it didn't work out like that right now. Now that the election is only a few hours away, I think I have no choice but to just go now, but I've already lost a lot of time and I'm playing hard to get. Then, I'll open one. So, it's a very deplorable situation where the whole country is sucked into the hands and mouths of this person named Myung Tae-kyun. I emphasize it again, but it's hard to handle it now if you don't say that you can really do this again with your heart starting from the beginning.

◇ Profitship: Yes. Earlier, Jeong Eui-won briefly talked about the seven-person episode because it's Ten-sang. I've seen a list of people go around for a while to see if it's real, but is it influential?

★ Jeongokim: It claims to be influential. And when it comes to being publicized like this, Kim Dae-nam said in the transcript, so in fact, everyone was talking about it even before then. And it's been heard a long time ago by someone like me who has nothing to do with the presidential office, but it was because of the person's phone transcript, and anyway, the role of the president's wife is too big. No one has given a role, but even when I see a phone interview with a person named Myung yesterday, they say this. Criticizing someone, he said he's been to Kobana content. Of course, I may have been to Acrobista, but people who have been to a company or business run by the president's wife, Covana Content, are closer to the president's family or first lady than the president's private residence. And most of them rarely talk about the president. So it's a very sad story to say that in this person's perception. From the perspective of conservative supporters, the name has not already been mentioned, and CEO Han Dong-hoon is talking about it in a euphemistic way, but I don't think I have enough time to talk about it in a euphemistic way. And we already have experience. Many of the conservative supporters who say they support it now don't think the president is doing everything well and the first lady is at fault. If this is left as it is, there is still a 20% approval rating because they have a sense of crisis that they can unintentionally create a board of representative Lee Jae-myung, who is currently mired in the current flawed judicial risk. If you look at it like that, you already go around about its existence. So, I don't mention the name of a person in detail, but there's talk about a ministry, a secretary, an administrator, and everything. And there are also people who provide various evidence that they were close. It's a very cautious thing to say, but you said it was preemptive earlier. We've seen what the consequences will be if we don't preemptively organize this. I'm telling you in that sense.

☆ Shin Kyung-min: If I explain one thing from that, the seven-member question at 13 o'clock is now listed in the media or in Yeouido. It's true that the list is going around. I'm not sure if that's right or not. However, quite a few people sympathized with and learned that this definitely exists. In fact, Park Young-sun and Yang Jung-cheol were appointed right after the general election. Prime Minister and chief of staff.

◇ Lee Ik-seon: There was.

☆ Shin Kyung-min: Anyway, the article came out at dawn right after the April general election. I remember exactly because there was a broadcast that day, so I got a call from someone while I was leaving at dawn and I found out, but around 5:30, this article from TV Chosun was published. But about three or four hours later, the same article appeared on YTN. Now, it's very important to know where and what time the first article came out. The reason is that the people in question are close to the media. Now, it is the second report, which is more important than the report, and a high-ranking official denies that the article is nonsense by a high-ranking official in the presidential office in Yongsan. I just cut it with one knife, saying there's no such thing. But a little later, he refutes that he is not a working-level secretary. So this is what happens that cannot happen in the normal hierarchy. So, I think the Yeouido officials who have understood all of this situation are 10 people, so I don't know exactly if it's a seven-member association, but they came out.

★ Jeong Ok-im: Not only that, but to add a little more, this card is alive, so we continue to talk about Park Young-sun and Yang Jung-cheol. Then, some even say that it's really inevitable even though it's alive. And then what happens at the next point is that it's very humble in a way. The secretary's attitude is that he's still working. But there, the senior official is the chief of staff. The chief of staff, the senior secretary for political affairs, has all quit anyway. Then, in the context of the post-war relationship, I can't even verify whether this is true or not, but the person mentioned in the prime minister's chief of staff's hippopotamus, where the name goes up and down, is close to someone, and everything starts to come out. Since our country is a directing society, rumors are much faster than politicians in other countries. And a lot of them may be wrong, but a lot of them are correct.

◇ Profit line: Okay. The Democratic Party used to say Kim Yoon Suk Yeol and Kim Gun-hee joint governments, but now they say Kim Gun-hee Yoon Suk Yeol joint governments. It's a bit of a political frame. Is there a backlash?

★ Jeongokim: That's what I'm saying now, but I'm taking a wait-and-see attitude than I thought. They think that everything is not against them right now. So, rather than saying it first, the Democratic Party of Korea is continuing to make such an excuse. As for the childcare system that can preemptively show that this frame is not right due to various circumstances such as Myung Tae-kyun's argument, the results will come out when we vote tomorrow, and we are talking about something that should have been mentioned before that.

◈ Choi Soo-young: But the Democratic Party of Korea has recently been a little careful. The Democratic Party of Korea, as you mentioned earlier, is silent. I was talking about it, but when I saw the remarks made by the Supreme Council yesterday, they said that the so-called intervention of the nomination was the reason for impeachment, but I did say that there was no word to bring down.This is the first time that the Democratic Party of Korea's leadership has coined the term "impeachment." Then, the Democratic Party of Korea is now... It's a position to wait and watch, but it's a position to be cautious legally while talking about impeachment. Where on earth is the Democratic Party's inner mind?

☆ Shin Kyung-min: These things about Myung Tae-kyun and Kim Dae-nam that we talked about are actually meeting all the necessary and sufficient conditions for political impeachment. But when you go into impeachment legally, for example, is it legally a reason for impeachment? When you go to the Constitutional Court, the judges will judge this by legal standards, right? If you ask if there is anything to do with it, it doesn't fall off. I do have a few. For example, if you intervened in the nomination and the poll cost was 360 million won, and you exchanged it with Kim Young-sun's nomination, these are claims, but they are not proven, and it takes a very high-level effort to prove them. So now, political impeachment and legal impeachment must be both correct to achieve impeachment. In that way, political impeachment is enough. It is getting far more than it needs to be, and now the people are getting used to it politically, as they go beyond ridicule to destroy and ignore the ruling party. Well, it wouldn't be an exaggeration to look at it like this. But the problem is that if you keep following what Myung Tae-kyun reveals, it won't be reported. Myung Tae-kyun doesn't talk about legal matters. Until now, he does not mention the legal story that if it is a particular one, Myung Tae-kyun will be stuck, and neither the president nor his wife will be stuck in the evening. It's still like that today. So, from the perspective of the Democratic Party or the opposition party, the political rhetoric is very strong, but we have no choice but to be a little careful. If you go out too much here, there is a possibility of headwinds if you go wrong, so what you're looking at right now is the best political strategy.

◇ Lee Ik-seon: The next candidates of the ruling camp mentioned by Myung Tae-kyun, Daegu Mayor Hong Joon Pyo and Seoul Mayor Oh Se-hoon, are engaged in a slugfest by mobilizing all of their strong words such as prosecution investigation and severe punishment. How do you think the ruling camp should deal with the continued revelations of Myung Tae-kyun when it is asked to organize them with the prosecution's investigation rights?

★ Jeongokim: I think we need to investigate immediately. But unexpectedly, it gives you the feeling that you're still. And there are so many people whose political status is almost falling because of this person named Myung Tae-kyun. Nevertheless, it gives an unnecessary impression of being untouchable about this person. For example, if you search and search your phone and you gave it back, and this person shouts. If you touch me, the president resigns himself within a month or says something really fearless, but I think this is a reason for arrest. Now, in a way, this country is basically shaking some political stability in this society. Because there is no basis for presenting material evidence now, even though some immediate action is needed against this person, this person responds that makes the person who makes such claims embarrassed, and it gives the impression that all political officials are shaking about this person. But this is really bad. So, I keep hearing that it's a big framework, but I think what a conservative party should do to survive is more important than the actors in it. In that sense, this person is definitely doing something wrong right now. Of course, this situation is about how the president's approval rating will change after the general election, especially among the constituencies, and how Kang, who worked for Myung Tae-kyun and Kim Young-sun, will come to the National Assembly at the end of this month to testify. What is the content of the testimony when that happens, and then some media outlets are now releasing it in stages. It's as if it's all over again, but what came out today was about manipulating public opinion. But then he said he'd pop the money-related content now. So is this limited to pollack or is there another politician involved here that's not keeping this person in check? If you look at it like this, but from the public understanding, shouldn't this person be arrested and investigated quickly? That's my personal opinion.

☆ Shin Kyung-min: But these incidents are usually quite unprecedented right now. It's like a duel between the president and the wilderness, where the revelers are now competing, and there is a characteristic of this case. Even though it's been a long time, Yongsan doesn't respond much even though it's been a while since News Tomato reported it. The presidential office is quiet. I put out something as a response, but it turned out to be a complete lie, so I was rather embarrassed. I can't just do what I don't do. My brother texted me today, so this is actually my second response, but this is also a wrong response.

◇ Lee Ik-seon: When was that text when you were a presidential candidate?

☆ Nervous: That's right. But anyway, it's almost like Yongsan has no response. And one of the very important characteristics of this case is that it's not very good. The other is the prosecution. Usually, when similar cases like this occur, the prosecution comes in quickly and snatches the person in question like an eagle snatching a bird. So it also has the effect of preventing you from opening your mouth anymore. It also has a scary effect, but not this time. It's said that the prosecution raided it this time, but it's a little strange. I wonder if they really did the search and seizure. The main body of the investigation is Changwon District Prosecutors' Office.Ma sees the significance of this issue, and the people involved are scattered all over the country right now. From this point of view, it doesn't seem right that the Changwon District Prosecutors' Office continues to investigate. So, someone has to organize the subject of the investigation. I think there's only one reason why the prosecution is hesitating for such a long time. I didn't get the instructions. The person who has to give the guidelines is not giving the guidelines. So, the response of the presidential office in Yongsan and the response of the prosecution are very different from other cases. So at times like this, I don't think there is any other way but to do it in principle, even if there is a little loss.

◇ Lee Ik-seon: It's almost time, so we need to talk a little bit about our last by-election. Let's go to a time where we make some predictions about the overall situation.

★ Jeongokim: Positive is known as an area where the power of the people cannot be strengthened. And it's not because it's a by-election and it's because of his predecessor's problem. I thought that because it's a by-election under such circumstances, the results of the people's power would be quite stable for this region. Recently, the candidates of the Democratic Party of Korea and the Cho Kuk Innovation Party have been unified, and various issues, especially the female president's support at the central political level, have emerged, and polls suggest that it will give momentum to the current situation. Those are the two variables. One is that it's a by-election itself, and secondly, this very political situation is similar to Seoul, especially in areas like Busan, so that kind of political situation has some influence. It should be seen that the two variables depend on how they are linked and affect each other. Regarding the situation, I think even within the power of the people, we cannot say that the power of the people will definitely win this time.

◈ Choi Soo-young: Rep. Shin, who do you think will win the abstention?

☆ Shin Kyung-min: No matter who wins, the gold medal seems to be close. This is gold tennis because the Democratic Party won only once during the impeachment of President Park Geun Hye. If the Democratic Party wins in Geumjeong-gu this time, it will almost be impeached.

◈ So who will win the honor?

☆ Shin Kyung-min: I think the third party is now in an advantageous position because the third party is fighting now.

◈ Choi Soo-young: Do you mean the Progressive Party if it's the third? Do you mean the Innovation Party?

☆ Shin Kyung-min: The Progressive Party is now fighting. So, this is going into a situation that we don't know right now.

◇ Lee Ik-seon: I see. Gyeongokgo will hear today's words up to here. I was with two lawmakers, former lawmaker Jung Ok-im and former lawmaker Shin Kyung-min. Thank you.

◈ Choi Soo-young: Thank you very much.

★ Jeongokim, ☆ Shin Kyung Min: Thank you.