[Politics ON] Myung Taekyun's open text message wave..."You're my brother" vs. "If you're my brother, you're a naughty boy".

■ Host: Youngsoo Kim anchor
■ Starring: Kim Young-woo, 18th, 19th, and 20th National Assembly member, Park Soo-hyun, Democratic Party member (Princess Buyeo, Chungcheongnam-do)

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[Anchor]
Let's start <Politics On> looking at the outside and inside of politics. Today, we will analyze the political situation with Kim Young-woo, a former member of the People's Power, and Park Soo-hyun, a member of the Democratic Party of Korea. Please come in. Please show us the first keyword. The first keyword was CEO Han Dong-hoon, CEO Lee Jae-myung, and Day of Destiny. At this time, the main vote for the by-elections is underway, and representative Han Dong-hoon headed to Geumjeong, Busan. Representative Lee Jae-myung is analyzed that the results of the election in Yeonggwang, Jeollanam-do, are the most important for future leadership. Let's listen to the voices of the ruling and opposition parties.

[Kim Jong-hyuk / Supreme Council Member of the People's Power (MBC Radio 'Kim Jong-bae's Attention'): It's the choice of the voters, so we have to watch it and never be arrogant, but I think the atmosphere has gotten a little better. I don't think we can hold the person who ran so hard that he was broken, whether it was a win or a loss. I think the president's office should feel responsible for worsening public opinion. ]

{Rep. Ko Min-jung / Democratic Party of Korea (MBC Radio 'Kim Jong-bae's Attention'): Mrs. Kim Gun-hee is working so hard on her campaign that I think it's okay to look positive. Only when the news confirms how hard CEO Han Dong-hoon is working in Geumjeong, will many citizens in Geumjeong feel that public opinion is spreading.]

[Anchor]
In politics, it will be an interim evaluation for the leaders of the ruling and opposition parties. What do you think of the by-elections, Kim Young-woo?

[Kim Youngwoo]
From my point of view, I think that in the case of the head of Geumjeong-gu, the power of the people will win by a neck and neck. I connect, and I may be wrong, of course.

[Anchor]
How about Ganghwa-gun, Incheon?

[Kim Youngwoo]
Ganghwagun is the power of the people. I think I'll have some time to relax. And in the case of glory in Honam, the three candidates must be really close. Even the Progressive Party. So I don't know about that. But Democrats may do better than you think. That's because it's been a garden for a long time. And as far as I know, the Democratic Party wins. And the superintendent of the Seoul Metropolitan Office of Education is a black election because our party cannot intervene, and the turnout itself is very low, so I think it depends on which one has the so-called mobilization ability.

[Anchor]
Since it is a force of the people, representative Han Dong-hoon could be a big blow to his leadership depending on the results of this election. If you lose the election for the head of Geumjeong-gu.

[Kim Youngwoo]
If you lose, it'll be noisy. But I don't think there will be a fatal blow. Because elections have a lot of variables, and then you can think about them. The last general election was actually... The head of the party that led the general election was Han Dong-hoon, chairman of the emergency committee. But I lost the general election. Nevertheless, what caused him to become the party leader with a 63% approval rating after the general election? That's something the party needs to change. Who is the image that fits the change? That was Han Dong-hoon. After that, however, after becoming the party leader, Han Dong-hoon has to change and change consistently, and the president's office has to do this and that's what he came from. That's why if we lose this election, of course, the party will be hit. Even the party leader can't say that it's not hurtful. Because I'm the leader of the party. However, CEO Han Dong-hoon is not as hit hard as the public says. However, those who want to speak out critically about CEO Han Dong-hoon will try to take advantage of the situation. I'm going to do a responsible battle.

[Anchor]
Former Supreme Council member Jang Ye-chan said in a radio interview today that representative Han Dong-hoon's responsibility could also be raised. During the by-elections for the head of Gangseo-gu District Office, the leadership of the People's Power took steps to replace it.

[Kim Youngwoo]
It's a different situation than then. It was the Seoul election at that time, and didn't you put out the same candidate again who was convicted and charged with crime? That's why it didn't fit common sense. All of those variables eventually change the leadership. And at that time, in a way, it was very pure in Yongsan. As we want to do Yongsan. I think that after speaking out, the leadership was finally broken.

[Anchor]
Rep. Park Soo-hyun, what do you think of the opposition party? How do you see the four election boards?

[Paphyun]
I'm telling you the situation because it could affect the day when the vote goes on today.

[Anchor]
I'm asking the ruling and opposition lawmakers' thoughts.

[Paphyun]
That's why I'm very careful. From the opposition Democratic Party's point of view, this is the third judgment against the Yoon Suk Yeol regime. The party officially says it's the second judge.E. Since the inauguration of the Yoon Suk Yeol administration, there has been one referee in the Gangseo-gu mayoral by-elections and the last general election. Because the president said he would change everything after the election defeat, and there is no change at all. The approval rating is now in this situation, and various things that are happening now, and things that the people do not understand, have come to this situation.

That's why the by-elections will have a huge impact on the position of each party leader in the future, as the anchor says, even though they are small local government heads. In particular, aside from this, the most important thing is that it will have the greatest impact on President Yoon Suk Yeol. I think so, and in that respect, we have been appealing to President Yoon Suk Yeol, who has not yet come to his senses, to do so so that the opposition and the people can do the last ultimatum. We believe that such an appeal will come out as a result.

[Anchor]
In the case of representative Lee Jae-myung, there are many analyses that the results of the election in Yeonggwang, Jeollanam-do, will have a great impact on leadership in the future.

[Paphyun]
I don't think so. Anyway, isn't CEO Lee Jae-myung scheduled to be sentenced for various prosecutions scheduled from November and being tried? Even assuming all of those things, he overwhelmingly elected him as the party leader through party members and public opinion polls. Therefore, we elected Lee Jae-myung as a representative to say that it is not a problem if we simply say that it is a big obstacle, but this election and this issue will not shake the leadership of Lee Jae-myung. As a result, in the sense that this election is the third judgment and ultimatum against President Yoon Suk Yeol, I will not be swayed by the results of representative Han Dong-hoon. Especially in the case of CEO Lee Jae-myung, there will be no more shaking, I think so.

[Anchor]
Let's move on to the next keyword. Please show us the next keyword. It's a Kakao Talk with Mrs. Kim Gun-hee released by Myung Tae-kyun. It's a aftermath. The aftermath continues as Myung Tae-kyun first revealed the contents of his Kakao Talk conversation with First Lady Kim Gun-hee. Political circles are engaged in a fierce battle over whether Myung's disclosure is based or not. Let's listen to it.

[Jang Ye-chan / Supreme Council Member for the Power of the People (CBS Radio 'Kim Hyun-jung's News Show') : (Did you hear him call him oppa? ) I've never heard of it being called that. Personally. It's a bit awkward for me to say that, but it wasn't that kind of expression. I understand that President Yoon Suk Yeol cut off some communication very firmly by telling Myung Tae-kyun not to call me or contact me anymore. ]

[Kim Min-seok / Supreme Council member of the Democratic Party of Korea: If it's your husband's brother, you're a fool, and if it's your brother, you're a bully No matter who your brother is, the essence is election rigging. Has the popular sentiment of Mr. Myung, who is so completely dependent that he can't even file a complaint, changed the candidate for people's power from a Hong Joon Pyo to a Yoon Suk Yeol? Who placed the order and who was briefed? Was it the same for the finals? ]

[Anchor]
An oppa appears in the text, and a truth battle continues over who the oppa is. The president's office said it was his brother. And they say it's just a private conversation. Do you think so?

[Kim Youngwoo]
Rather, I think the president's office reacted wrong. It's supposed to be the truth game. If this happens. And then, in fact, what the president's office should do is that when this happens, people involved should gather for these negatives. So we have to share all the information we know. Then, how to respond, what to do with media relations, how to write a statement, and how to respond to the person concerned. You have to squeeze things like this. That's the strategy. But I think the communication inside the presidential office is not very smooth.

Do you know the contents of the text messages between Myung Tae-kyun and Mrs. Kim Gun-hee? If you don't know this, there will be a limit to responding. That's why Myung Tae-kyun takes advantage and exploits this situation. I have 2000 captures. I come out every day saying I'm going to peel it. Then, are you going to respond to this every time we reveal it? I ended up arguing with him. It shouldn't be like this. In this case, there should be a big strategy to look at the situation. That's how you express your position and do this.

Otherwise, the suspicion will continue to grow like a snowball. And dignity and dignity will fall to the point of decline. Originally, in the case of President Yoon Suk Yeol, many people would have tried to help him because he was in a position to enter politics for the first time and hold elections. Not only Myung Taekyun. I don't think the jade stone was distinguished. But from what I can see, Myung Tae-kyun is being neglected by being alienated and bullied even though he has helped hard in his own way. Aren't you protesting more because of this? If this happens, don't think about turning off the lights every day, but plan a strategy to make a big public stance.

[Anchor]
Today, Daegu Mayor Hong Joon Pyo asked the people and party members to understand the position of candidate Yoon, who was a political rookie at the time. At the same time, I told him not to be misled by the nonsense that election brokers say to live.

[Kim Youngwoo]
So I'm in a similar position. But now you have to respond. You have to share the information. To what extent, we know what message communication was. It first entered politics and received this help during the primary. If you got it, you should say you got it. Then, but in this respect, it was difficult to continue, so there was a disconnection in communication. But you don't know if you've been communicating with Mrs. Kim Gun-hee. Since there is no information sharing about it, the response becomes lukewarm, or if you do something wrong, it flows into your brother's argument.

[Anchor]
Supreme Council member Kim Min-seok said that if he is her husband's brother, he becomes a fool, and if he becomes her own brother, he becomes a farmer.

[Kim Youngwoo]
That's why I responded wrong yesterday. I don't know when he'll reveal it. What are you going to do if there's something else that could refer to the president of Yoon Suk Yeol even in other Kakao Talk content? Even if that's not necessarily the name oppa. When similar content comes out, the presidential office is completely playing with Myung Tae-kyun.

[Anchor]
Rep. Park Soo-hyun said, "Because all the contents of Kakao Talk came out in all the media. You read it, right?

[Paphyun]
I'm so ashamed to discuss this with these things because it's a so-called oppa debate. Considering the devastation that the people will feel, it is sorry to discuss each fact. The truth of this question will be revealed in the future.What kind of people are we? 3. Weren't you the people who started the great democratic history with the April 19 Revolution in defiance of the 15th fraudulent election and the dictatorship of the Liberal Party? And our people who started the May 18 Democratic Movement against the New Military Government's withdrawal from power. And the June 10 Uprising that led to a direct election. In response to the manipulation of state affairs, democracy was restored through the candlelight revolution.

It is so shameful and disastrous as a politician to show this to the people, regardless of whether they are ruling or opposition. It's like this. Shouldn't the opposition party also take advantage of this problem to look at this problem with the feeling of what I'm saying now, rather than trying to shake the government with it? I have this idea that it's polite to the people. As Representative Kim Young-woo said, I hope the president's office responds well. I've worked in the presidential office.What I'm judging right now is that you're responding better than not responding.

Aren't you raising more suspicions? From that point of view, the biggest question is, can we ask the president and his wife what is the truth in the secretariat when this is happening? Because I can't ask questions, I don't know what the whole person looks like, and because I responded in pieces, I haven't been able to respond for more than a month. Like yesterday, he responds to the oppa's argument in 30 minutes. Given the lack of political judgment over such inconsistent responses, I am all the more worried about the situation of the ruling class at a time when people's livelihoods are difficult in terms of whether such a system that cannot communicate even within it has been suspended.

[Anchor]
In the case of People's Power, it is said that a party audit of Myung has begun, is it correct?

[Kim Youngwoo]
That's what's going on.

[Anchor]
I heard it's related to the alleged leakage of the party's list.

[Kim Young-woo]
What can be done mainly is that there was probably a misguided poll behavior such as a list leak or a poll related to the party.

[Anchor]
Opposition parties are also raising the possibility of intervening in the presidential election.

[Kim Young-woo] It would be something like that if we were to
. I think Dang is a civilian and a signature, and Myung Tae-kyun. It's going to be very difficult to find something substantive. If there are a few things, you can request an investigation or file a complaint, but I think there may be some limitations. For now, the president's office is the one to solve this problem. And instead of continuing to grow this, there should be an explanation that allows the people to nod their heads even a little. He's organized well. Then, if you have to apologize, apologize. Can this be solved only in this way that I continue to cheat on Myung Tae-kyun? It's not a problem that can be solved by fighting between neighbors. I think it's too easy.

[Park Soo-hyun]
What's more serious is that the Democratic Party of Korea keeps lighting fires or conflicts within the power of the ruling party, the people. It's a situation where it becomes an issue and news again. And the presidential office cannot be settled, and the ruling party is fanning each other by fanning the fire. In this respect, the seriousness of this problem is also worrisome to the opposition Democratic Party. Now, North Korea is struggling to make people's livelihoods while creating such a strong sense of crisis, and how on earth is the ruling party trying to solve this problem? The Democratic Party can't solve this problem, can it? So, I'm sorry to Representative Kim Young-woo, but I'd like to say that the presidential office is essentially the center and we need to settle it as soon as possible, but the situation of the ruling party should be sorted out quickly.

[Anchor]
CEO Han Dong-hoon met with reporters today and said that it is better to implement the measures I have already mentioned quickly and surely. When reporters asked me about the messenger conversation between Myung Tae-kyun and Kim Gun-hee, I said this. It's expected that a private meeting will be held next week. I'm just continuing to talk about it earlier. She said she needs to refrain from working as First Lady Kim, and she is talking about personnel reform. In addition, the prosecution is saying that the public should produce results that can be understood.

[Kim Youngwoo]
If the president and representative Han Dong-hoon have a solo meeting this time, we have to talk a lot. Does this end in a perfunctory meeting? Then you won't be able to do it unless you really don't. And things like refraining from external activities, installing attached rooms, and special inspectors should be fruitful now. And it's not an unreasonable request, but it should have been done from a long time ago, but this didn't work. So, if we really think about this from the perspective of the people, we must do it. And in order to change, you have to endure a lot of pain. Otherwise, if the president in charge of state administration and the ruling party's leader meet and just empty-handed talks in the midst of this, it will be criticized greatly. So, even if it's really hard, this solo V LIVE has to be fruitful. I think about it. This shouldn't be a pride fight or a simple conflict or an interview in this dimension.

[Anchor]
Some people say that it may not be in the form of a one-on-one meeting or a one-on-one meeting.

[Kim Youngwoo]
In my opinion, who knows the most about the various issues related to First Lady Kim Gun-hee? I think it's Han Dong-hoon. That's why, as I said earlier, measures are not taken in terms of what happened, and then coping and strategies are possible with a lot of information. So I think CEO Han Dong-hoon has something to do. You have to be honest with the president about what you know. Then, what we know in the presidential office should be discussed together. That's why we need to come up with a strategy. To meet the public's standards. Otherwise, can we solve this mess? I think it's very difficult.

[Anchor]
Rep. Park Soo-hyun said that representative Han Dong-hoon has been talking about the Kim Gun-hee issue over and over again. Pro-Yoon-gye lawmakers say it is not appropriate to talk ahead of next week's solo meeting. Do you think so?

[Paphyun]
Such stories are not important, and what results will be produced if a solo meeting is held as lawmaker Kim Young-woo said. Representative Han Dong-hoon should accept the special prosecution of First Lady Kim Gun-hee to the president now. Also, if we don't reach a conclusion that we need to do a special investigation into Chae's sickness, we have to do it clearly, Kim Gun-hee's apology, and the installation of the attached room, all of which are already over.

[Anchor]
However, representative Han Dong-hoon opposes the special prosecution proposed by the Democratic Party.

[Paphyun]
I know. It's not such a free time. The Democratic Party is irrelevant. But now it's a question of how the people's power will deal with this and restore the momentum to run the state administration. As a result, if CEO Han Dong-hoon makes this kind of suggestion that he would like to make a formal one-on-one meeting and go there and just end it with an apology, or if that's the conclusion, it is expected that the prosecution will not indict Kim Gun-hee in the Deutsche Motors stock price manipulation case. In the midst of this, if the result of a private meeting such as the installation of a second annex and an apology comes out, representative Han Dong-hoon will also end his future as a politician.

[Anchor]
Then, do you think the installation of the second accessory room will come out next week?

[Paphyun]
I'm going to try to deal with that, but I can't deal with it. That threshold has already been crossed. So it speaks more strongly of the need for an independent counsel. Isn't this Myung Tae-kyun's cases and these things, in the end, continuously strengthening the need for a special prosecutor? So now it's way too late. When former President Park Geun Hye was impeached for manipulating state affairs last time, he went to this point and eventually came to impeachment. It's already way past that point.

[Anchor]
If some people accept the special prosecution, they will take the bait related to the impeachment that the opposition party is pushing for. It should never be accepted. I think it's in this position.

[Paphyun]
Not accepting an independent counsel itself results in such an unfortunate path. I'm sure the public will be like that now.

[Anchor]
What do you think the results should be? More specifically. Rep. Park Soo-hyun said, "Should we ask for the acceptance of the special prosecutor now?"

[Kim Youngwoo]
However, it is still important under which special prosecution law it is. The reason why an independent counsel is needed now is because only the opposition party is embarrassed and recommended by the opposition party. There is a high possibility that the prosecution's investigation, the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit's investigation, it is not fair, and it is not fair. Isn't that why you're doing it? You can't trust it. Then, even if we conduct an independent counsel, we still need a proper independent counsel law to be able to trust the results. So the independent counsel law pursued by the opposition party is clearly problematic. So, it is necessary to discuss the Special Prosecutor Act together. The ruling and opposition parties should put their heads together to discuss the special prosecution law that the people can trust the most. There is a problem with the special prosecution law that the ruling party keeps releasing once every two months and once every three months.

[Anchor]
The installation of the second annex is.

[Kim Youngwoo]
I heard that it's in progress. Aren't you saying that it's under construction? Such hardware.

[Anchor]
What if a second annex is installed?

[Kim Youngwoo]
That won't solve everything perfectly, honestly. But I have to do everything I can. The same goes for the special inspector. So you have to do everything you can. I wonder if I'll gain trust even if I work hard. So I think we have to work hard.

[Paphyun]
You keep making such claims about the special prosecutor. The independent counsel is basically a structure in which an independent counsel recommended by the opposition party is appointed if it is related to the president and the president's family, regardless of whether the people want to trust the Democratic Party. Wouldn't it be more desirable from the public's perspective?

[Kim Young-woo]
It's not. Now that the political community is completely divided into two sides and the people are divided by camp logic in many areas, it is right to recommend the independent counsel recommendation committee, which contains objectively reasonable voices. It's too one-sided if it's only done on one side.

[Paphyun]
So, as the lawmaker said earlier, we have to put our heads together. Therefore, the Democratic Party of Korea also recommended the candidates recommended by the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, so the Democratic Party and the opposition party choose from among them and recommend them. How reasonable is that.

[Kim Youngwoo]
That's recommended by the opposition parties, after all. Because if you don't like the special prosecutor recommended by the Chief Justice, you'll keep going with him.

[Park Soo-hyun]
So, the Kim Gun-hee Special Prosecutor Act is a special prosecutor for the first lady who shakes the Republic of Korea, which is full of people's suspicions, and it has been the principle of all special prosecutors in the past that the president should conduct a special prosecutor recommended by the opposition party to clear the suspicion. But why can't we get an independent counsel recommended by the opposition party? If you're so confident? It's like this. That's what the special prosecutor's flow should be like.

[Kim Young-woo]
The opposition party is now in a position to impeach representative Lee Jae-myung's investigative prosecutor, so I don't think the confidence in the opposition party is high.

[Paphyun]
I'll put up with that.I.

[Anchor]
I see. I've heard enough of your thoughts. Thank you for listening. Let's move on to the next issue. Hani's appearance of the girl group New Jeans, who appeared as a reference for the head of the National Assembly of the Republic of Korea, caught the eye yesterday. Let's watch the video of the National Assembly.

[Anchor]
workplace bullying He said he should talk about this confidently, so he attended the committee in person and answered. How did you see it?

[Paphyun]
It must be very scary to come to the National Assembly as a witness and a reference. How scared they must have been, especially for that generation. And when you talk about things like that, it must have been burdensome for you to look at yourself as a whole. Nevertheless, I want to cheer you up when you're brave enough to come out like that. It is very important that we listen to their voices maturely and do what the older generation should do to prevent such courageous actions and resolutions from shining. Since I'm a member of the committee, we met Ahn Se-young at a private meeting recently. I was touched. Although 22 years old is not a small age, seeing so much consideration and patience tell real stories with these things, I think as an older generation, we should listen to such voices well.

[Anchor]
Thank you. Rep. Kim Young-woo, please say something.

[Kim Youngwoo]
I agree with you in general. But to be honest, it was a little unseemly for lawmakers to take pictures just because they were famous idols. Anyway, I agree with you, Senator.

[Anchor]
It is a place to listen to the voices of the people and the National Assembly of the People's Hall. It was good to see him say what he wanted to say confidently. This is the end of today's political issue. So far, Kim Young-woo, a former member of the People's Power, and Park Soo-hyun, a member of the Democratic Party of Korea. Thank you very much. Thank you.