[News fighting] Lee Ki-in, "Kang Hye-kyung's list of 27 people, intended for political use."

[YTN Radio News Fighting Bae Seunghee]
□ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (07:15 - 09:00)

□ Broadcast date and time: October 24, 2024 (Thursday)
□ Host: Attorney Bae Seung-hee
□ Starter: Lee Ki-in, Supreme Council member of the New Reform Party

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◆ Attorney Bae Seung-hee (hereinafter referred to as Bae Seung-hee): News fighting Thursday, we will continue with the youth regret in the third part. Today, let's look at the overall political issues with Lee Ki-in, the supreme council member of the New Reform Party. Are you here?

◇ Lee Ki-in, member of the New Reform Party (hereinafter referred to as Lee Ki-in): Yes, how are you? It's Lee Ki-in.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes, Kim Gun-hee is a key figure in the suspicion of intervening in the nomination. Myung Tae-kyun said he helped some political figures with his poll. Among them, he also claims that he made Lee Joon-seok, a member of the New Reform Party, the leader of the People's Power Party at the time. May I ask you to come in?

◇ Lee Ki-in: I think it's a bit futile. Myung Tae-kyun himself seems to think that he helped him through his main specialty, such as public opinion polls, but when I think back to the public awareness of Lee Joon-seok at that time, he was the only one who fought alone in gender policies and petitions for the ISU Station case at the peak of the male-female conflict caused by the Moon Jae In government. But as far as I remember, I also had a war of words online with Professor Jin Jung-kwon for more than a month over this issue, and in fact, I brought all the votes of men in their 20s who were Democratic bone marrow supporters. And after I announced my candidacy, the speech, the Daegu speech that impeachment was justified, and through various debates, I was verified and recognized for my qualifications as a party leader. At that time, public opinion was already pointing out that Lee Joon-seok should be the party leader. I don't think it was a case where the atmosphere was created by the small things that Myung Tae-kyun talked about with just one opinion poll. I think it's a typical exaggeration to forget those historical facts and say that I made them all over time.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. But if you look at the text message that lawmaker Lee Joon-seok released with Myung Tae-kyun, I think we're quite close. During the presidential election with Myung Tae Gyun, he made a beer meeting like a text message. We're talking about it. Is that so?

◇ Lee Ki-in: So for the beer meeting, I now know who the party official recruited the place, and the lawmakers who are currently in the power of the people, what are you talking about? It was the lawmakers and party officials who were planning this at the time. Myung Tae-kyun testified that there was no chance that he would intervene. But that doesn't mean CEO Lee Joon-seok is denying that he doesn't know who he is even if he goes golfing and fishing with, but is he confessing honestly that he knows the person exactly, and that he heard what he had to hear and walked? I don't know what the hell the problem is.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see. Kang Hye-kyung, who is now known as a key informant, revealed the list of 27 ruling and opposition parties. Everyone is just arguing that it hasn't been like that. I also disclosed the conversation that Myung had with Kim earlier, do you have any proof of these 27 people?

◇ Lee Ki-in: But the people on the list now deny that they are not themselves, but Kang Hye-kyung's lawyer, who is believed to have released the list after the list was revealed, is the No. 1 candidate for proportional representation of the Pine Tree Party and the current Democratic Party of Korea is serving as a spokesperson for the Prosecutor's Dictatorship Committee as far as I can remember. Roh Young-hee, a political party, said that the list is not the 25 people mentioned by Myung Tae-kyun, and there are people who have requested a poll, but there are people who are not, and they are the client's competitors or just the list who conducted their own poll. So, it's not possible to call this person a related person, the competitor of the client who distributed the list and requested a self-investigation or investigation, right? Just by looking at this, there seems to be controversy and confusion over this list, but I don't know about Kang Hye-kyung, but I can see how seriously Noh Young-hee deals with this issue and how politically he uses it. This is how I evaluate it.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Let's wrap it up like this with four individual opinions. We're searching around Myung Tae-kyun right now. According to Myung Tae-kyun's claim, it can be interpreted that former lawmaker Kim Young-sun paid off the cost of the presidential poll. This is the argument that it's a price for nominations after all, but what do you think of this part?

◇ Lee Ki-in: I think it's from another broadcast interview. Is it the day after that interview? In another media company, Kang Hye-kyung reversed her words, saying that she used her own money to fund lawmaker Kim Young-sun's campaign and that lawmaker Kim Young-sun paid it back. I don't think I know what's true, but even if I paid for it instead, I think the key is whether Yoon Suk Yeol ordered or recognized the poll at the time. In the National Assembly, Kang Hye-kyung testified to the effect that Yoon Suk Yeol did not request dozens of polls. So, even if it was published instead, strictly speaking, it is a poll without a client, so I think it is another level of problem to prove the price.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see. I see. You saw the meeting between President Yoon Suk Yeol and Representative Han Dong-hoon. Let's listen to the overall evaluation first.

◇ Lee Ki-in: First of all, there's a feeling that you can see through pictures. So you can see scenes that were quite shabby compared to the first dinner of representative Han Dong-hoon's leadership and the dinner with the losers before that. Is it a shabby desk or a poor refreshment and then yesterday? President Yoon Suk Yeol visited Beomeosa Temple, and if you compare it with the picture taken with the governor of Beomeosa Temple, you can see what he thinks of representative Han Dong-hoon simply by that picture. I wonder if it is something to treat the ruling party leader this poor and shabby. And aren't the stories from the interviews coming out through media reports now? In particular, the key was how to accept the three demands of Mrs. Kim Gun-hee, but they all deny it, right? The fact that the interview itself can only be evaluated as an empty-handed meeting and an empty-handed meeting just by looking at the continuous denial in a way that is wrong with personnel reform and the investigation of suspicions. That's what I think.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. But when CEO Lee Han Dong-hoon said, "Yongsan is an adaptation of the word," the presidential office responded, "Please tell me what kind of distortion there was." How do you see this part?

◇ Lee Ki-in: So I don't understand why the party and the government should be in conflict with just one word like this. The presidential office seems to be very sensitive right now, but I think the three demands that representative Han Dong-hoon talked about in the media are actually at the level of the public's understanding. The presidential office, however, considers this very sensitive and denies it all, and reacts sensitively to the word adaptation, and criticizes Han Dong-hoon through the media, not even by revealing his real name, but through key officials. The presidential office and Han Dong-hoon, or the party-government relationship, are already in conflict, almost equivalent to the level of Bundang, apart from normal party-government relations. I can only show you like this.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: But I've heard you keep talking. It sounds like it's the president's responsibility right now. By the way, you said that the relationship between representative Han Dong-hoon and the government and the government is a catastrophe, but is the president responsible for all this?

◇ Lee Ki-in: Of course, the president is not the only one to blame. Representative Han Dong-hoon may also have a responsibility to carry as representative of the ruling party. But in the end, isn't it the president who is responsible for unlimited state administration? And CEO Han Dong-hoon isn't asking too much for a request that's quite far away, is it? Kim Gun-hee's various suspicions and things that the people can really prove, even my acquaintances, who used to be part of the People's Power and now have a party affiliation of the New Reform Party, all around me, say, "Please stop working for Kim Gun-hee and focus on state affairs." I think representative Han Dong-hoon is moving such public opinion accurately, but he takes greater responsibility for the president who continues to reject and oppose it, but that does not mean that representative Han Dong-hoon is not responsible.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: But as you just said, isn't he the leader of the ruling party as the party leader? Communication with the President. Was it necessary to point out this openly?

◇ Lee Ki-in: Of course, it may be a bit uncomfortable for the president to show off his rent through a dinner with 20 people before the interview and say something uncomfortable before meeting people, but after all, isn't CEO Han Dong-hoon no longer a public official like the Minister of Justice but a politician? If you think that you are responsible for your words and that you are the first to inform the people of the various controversies surrounding the ruling party, which is the most serious issue right now, President Yoon Suk Yeol is responsible rather than representative Han Dong-hoon.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Chungnam Governor Kim Tae-heum left a message for CEO Han Dong-hoon on social media, and CEO Han Dong-hoon made a phone call, asking why he was cursing. How did you see this?

◇ Win-in: This is now the beginning of factional conflict in some quarters. It is a similar trend to the impeachment of President Park Geun Hye. This evaluation continues, but I don't think I should simply express it as a factional conflict. However, I think it is a self-serving class that only wants the well-being of the group to protect its own vested interests even in the midst of this overall crisis of conservatism, or a distinct period in which wounds are cut out and raised even if they are a little sick and stinging. In a good way, it is a distinction between common sense and unconventional, and in Yeouido grammar, it is seen as a factional conflict. If this is simply considered to be a factional differentiation, as I said before, it seems that lawmakers who share the same view on the issue of the first lady, which the majority of the people sympathize with, are obscured in a way. Therefore, I hope Governor Kim Tae-heum will not just see Governor Kim Tae-heum as a conflict within the party, but will sympathize with what representative Han Dong-hoon is saying and that the public opinion will be reported accordingly.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Don't you think CEO Han Dong-hoon should hear this kind of voice? Do you think it's possible to call this and ask how a party member would swear at the party leader?

◇ Lee Ki-in: I also saw Governor Kim Tae-heum's SNS post, and he said it was a loyalty and wrote something like lightness and prosecution. I don't agree with all of Representative Han Dong-hoon's politics, but how can I see an article that says, "It's prosecutoriality," and says, "The problem about Kim Gun-hee should not be highlighted." How can it be accepted as a recruitment when the public opinion polls of the national conservative group and the conservative group are overwhelmingly that the independent counsel or activities against Kim Gun-hee should be restrained? CEO Han Dong-hoon should humbly accept such a different voice, but it can only be interpreted as being more of a criticism rather than a recruitment.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: It was abusive because I called the person concerned for being criticized. What kind of politics can this be considered as a politician?

◇ Lee Ki-in: But now CEO Han Dong-hoon's saying through the media that Governor Kim Tae-heum used abusive language was not a so-called media play, but he called Governor Kim Tae-heum himself. Oh, isn't this abusive language? Governor, so we can't know the detailed call, but isn't it not that abnormal to say that it's abusive?

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Okay. Rep. Lee Joon-seok said this again. Regarding representative Han Dong-hoon, he said that Han's political assets were created by President Yoon. What is the meaning of this statement?

◇ Lee Ki-in: That's actually true. Because at the time of the Prosecutor General of Yoon Suk Yeol, was CEO Han Dong-hoon the Deputy Director of Investigation for Team 3? Was it the team leader? Aren't you a colleague who worked with the prosecution for 7 years? Even when he was elected at the national convention, he would have been elected because he was pointed out as a person who could recreate President Yoon Suk Yeol's enemy while succeeding Han Dong-hoon, rather than any competence of representative Han Dong-hoon. In that sense, it is believed that President Yoon made political assets.

◆Bae Seung-hee: Do you think CEO Han Dong-hoon's actions that he has shown so far are also steps to differentiate himself from President Yoon Suk Yeol?

◇Lee Ki-in: If President Yoon Suk Yeol's approval rating now exceeds 50 percent, would Han Dong-hoon have proposed the same demands for paying respect to the ruling-opposition party-government legislative council or First Lady Kim Gun-hee? I don't look like that. In particular, the special prosecutor Coporal Chae made a promise during the national convention, saying that the people's power would directly propose it, but he couldn't beat the resistance of the presidential office and now it's become a story that doesn't exist at all. As a result, I wonder if they are more focused on establishing their political position than trying to solve the real thing by showing disagreement and differentiating themselves and continuously disclosing only their list of demands to the media.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: The Democratic Party of Korea's Kim Gun-hee ruled out the recommendation of the independent counsel for the People's Power, but also the recommendation of the New Reform Party. How do you think it's unreasonable?

◇ Lee Ki-in: In fact, I think the National Assembly itself is a contradiction. While encouraging the advancement of minority parties into the linked proportional representation system, minority parties do not have the right to negotiate in the floor, and it is a fair legislative body regardless of age and number, but as you just said, the standing special prosecutor's recommendation has been made as a priority for senior citizens. I don't know if I can't ignore the experience that comes out of the athlete. How many people would think that the National Assembly of the Republic of Korea is proceeding normally now just because of the fact that such pre-signed lawmakers have dominated the mainstream? So, I'm not just asking young people to fill it, but I think we want to argue that depriving permanent special prosecutors or special prosecutors of opportunities because they are young can cause another problem, and these are seriously considered equally.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. The Democratic Party of Korea is holding a certain event criticizing the prosecution every day, and it criticizes the ruling party that it is for Lee Jae-myung's representative BTS. How are you watching it?

◇ Lee Ki-in: I'm the first person to reveal the photos of the training with the late Kim Moon-ki, who the whole nation remembers, and I was directly involved in the development of Baekhyun-dong. So I'm sure the first trial sentence will be guilty. But it's not a day or two for the Democratic Party to disobey the judiciary, is it? He seems to be guessing that if he tries to impeach the land prosecutor under various pretexts and leads the presidential election, Lee Jae-myung will be able to somehow become president and cover up judicial risks, but no matter how political the prosecution is these days, I don't think it's such a soft or completely rigid organization. Since there are certainly prosecutors who work with a sense of fairness in them, I would like to say that the truth will win even if the Democratic Party of Korea attempts to make a bulletproof effort.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I expect you to be guilty. Are you talking about this?

◇ Lee Ki-in: I am more certain than expected. Here's what I think.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see. I see. We've talked about it all today. I hope you do interviews often.

◇ Lee Ki-in: Yes, please call me often.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Okay. That's all for today's youth regret.

◇ Lee Ki-in: Yes, thank you.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes, we have been with Lee Ki-in, the supreme council member of the New Reform Party. Thank you.