[News fighting] Cho Won-jin, "Han Dong-hoon, change your confidants first, especially..."

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□ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (07:15 - 09:00)
□ Broadcast date and time: November 6, 2024 (Wednesday)
□ Host: Attorney Bae Seung-hee
□ Cast: Cho Won-jin, Representative of the Republican Party

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◆ Attorney Bae Seung-hee (hereinafter referred to as Bae Seung-hee): I'm Bae Seung-hee, the news on my way to work. Wednesday's part two starts with all the peeling. Cho Won-jin, the leader of the Republican Party, is here. Hello,

◇Republican Party Chairman Cho Won-jin (hereinafter referred to as Cho Won-jin): Nice to meet you.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I've been peeling it all before the show started. Since we're starting the broadcast, we need to open it more. I see. Now, in a daily newspaper, "At the end of the presidential term in the past, there used to be a conflict between the first and second-in-command. Unusually, however, in the current administration, there was a conflict between the first and second-in-command at a time when the term of office was not even reached." First of all, are you the 2nd in line?

◇Jo Won-jin: Since you're a two-person person, you're the number two on the surface of the day. the leader of the ruling party The other is that the president of Yoon Suk Yeol gave the excuse and Yongsan gave it to him. The other one was 7 years ago. I know the situation of impeachment of President Park Geun Hye in 2016 and 2017 the most. Representative Han Dong-hoon is calling for some reform and change, but that in turn paves the way for the opposition's impeachment. In the end, the opposition party goes that way, right? That's right. In this situation, the position of the ruling party leader Han Dong-hoon will be a little troubled at a time when an outdoor rally is held and this week's outdoor rally is also scheduled. However, as the second-in-command, as the representative of the people's power, and as the party leader, isn't it a little impatient? I need to think more about it. There's something that people around me encourage. In that regard, I have a lot of regrets after watching the impeachment situation seven or eight years ago. Also, as soon as CEO Han Dong-hoon caught it, it was too late. That's how I see it.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: The moment I caught the split, I was late.

◇Jo Won-jin: "It's late." Look at it like this. Because Lee Jae-myung's trial is on November 15th and 25th. CEO Lee Jae-myung seems to be watching the outcome of the trial. I go out and talk about it, but depending on the outcome of the trial, the credit goes to CEO Lee Jae-myung for how to lead this. Then, think more about which direction CEO Han Dong-hoon's stance should go. Of course, there is a press conference and a discourse press conference tomorrow, so how much are you going to organize in that part? Also, isn't it true that the people are a little anxious? There will be a lot of departures from the supporters, so I hope the president does a good job in this area. That's what I think.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: That's what you said. You've experienced it and you've watched it closely. Last time around 2016, a tablet came out. And then there was an apology, and then the assembly continued in this order, but now the recording has come out. And there was a rally. Next, there is an apology request. Is it flowing similarly?

◇ Cho Won-jin: The problem was the internal division first. Tablet PC. At the time, an announcer said that on a TV show, but I was a can. In fact, it intimidated the people, but there was nothing inside. But hasn't this pollack problem been recorded? It's more serious. In fact, the Democratic Party has various recordings like that. He is threatening the people again to put pressure on them like this, but it's not much. That's what I think. There's nothing much. Now, we have to present everything before the trial of Lee Jae-myung's representative, Lee Jae-myung, but I don't think we're in a situation where we have something special. It's not much. I judge like that, and doesn't Myung Tae-kyun go into the prosecution's investigation? In that situation, I think that the outside stories will be roughly organized. What's even more disturbing when people look back on the situation seven years ago is that internal divisions went as far as impeachment seven years ago. As a result, it wasn't such a big problem when I looked at it now, but in that situation, the internal division of the people's power comes first.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: If the internal division continues, there is a high possibility that this return to power will fail. Do you see it like this?

◇Jo Won-jin: Can you even think about the problem in Jeju? It's just splitting up. If Yoon Suk Yeol President Han Dong-hoon continues to go like that, and if there is another division among lawmakers, some situations will unfold and it will not only cause the concurrent destruction of the conservative party but also cause another pain to the people who support the conservative party, and the re-creation of the government will go beyond. Even at the time of impeachment. The people who led the impeachment thought they were all president, but in the end, they donated the government to the left of the opposition, right? I'm seeing those situations right now. Even now, people inside think that even if the president of Yoon Suk Yeol becomes a problem, I will be able to become president, but the opposition party is not that strong.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Are you talking about CEO Ahn Dong-woo?

◇ Cho Won-jin: There are people who think so similarly. Why do people who don't come forward and still wait and see look like they were seven years ago and now?

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Okay. Let me ask you the next news. At the halfway point of President Yoon's term, the president's approval rating was 19%, which was surveyed by Gallup Korea. This is the result of a survey of 105 adult men and women nationwide from the 29th to the 31st. This is an interview with a random wireless phone virtual telephone surveyor. It was conducted through an interview, and the response rate was 11.1%. In this Gallup survey, it was in the 19% range. What does it mean?

◇Jo Won-jin: The fact that the 19th drop is now a bit disappointing for the people, and the patient people are a bit angry. The anger of the supporters was also highly deviated from the supporters area. Public opinion will rebound further by watching this. It's possible to rebound, but it's 19%. But in another poll, isn't it 22%? Let's pretend we didn't mention the other press conference we visited on the 7th. Depending on what you want to do with the press conference

◆ Bae Seung-hee: The number of Oluya according to the press conference

◇Jo Won-jin: The approval rating will rebound a bit. Since then, bop

◆ Bae Seung-hee: If you mention your approval rating, we have to introduce you all, but you can refer to the website of the Central Election Public Opinion Review Committee for more information. By the way, Choi Jae-sung, the former senior secretary for political affairs, is. Our show came out yesterday, and this 19% record will fall to the 89% delinquency rate level in the future. That's what I said.

◇ Cho Won-jin: It's their wish. In the end, if you look at the current situation, it becomes an economic problem, but it is true that the Kim Gun-hee problem is antagonizing the people in various ways. Then the solution is simple. It's not difficult, is it? So, if you present such solutions on the 7th, it would be better in that regard because the price part or the economic situation is difficult, but it is doing well. Instead, the internal division, the power of the people, the division within the party, has a greater impact.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Are you close to the split within the party?

◇ Cho Won-jin: We're close because we're close, but I'm a little shy about that. Since Han Dong-hoon became the leader of the party, he already fights with close people at an angle with Yongsan. Now, the opposition party is talking about impeachment candles while fighting outside, but the party leader continues to fight with Yongsan at an angle. The result is obvious. Looking back on the past, in the end, CEO Han Dong-hoon will die and the Yoon Suk Yeol government will collapse. Then, shouldn't both of them hold hands and find a solution? I would like to say that President Yoon Suk Yeol should open up his heart a little more and CEO Han Dong-hoon should study more.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Shouldn't the CEO open his heart? Both of you open up and see this responsibility as greater for President Yoon Suk Yeol

◇Jo Won-jin: Since the issue of U.S. First Lady Kim Gun-wook was an excuse, if the issue is resolved to some extent on the 7th, it is right for Han Dong-hoon to open his heart and make efforts to create a successful government with President Yoon Suk Yeol. One side is responsible for this. It's not like this.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Okay, I got it. I'm sorry. Han Dong-hoon, chairman of the People's Power Party, met with the responsible members of the Conservative Party who have been active in the Conservative Party for 20 consecutive years and said, "Now, the people's power can be won only by expanding the outside world." At every election, the conservative camp should expand its reach. You have to take the middle course. 2030 should be expanded. I think it was the same during the last general election. Is it still not done?

◇Jo Won-jin: Extending the extension is just a normal story, is it important now? The house rabbits are all gone, but they are busy catching house rabbits, but why did the house rabbits go out? The Yongsan problem is that there is also a problem with the party. All the rabbits in the house are out, but it's not timely to talk about extensions now. First of all, the way to regroup the supporters who left Mercury is to expand the second extension to the policy and the life of the people. This is just not the right time for external expansion. Then, I'm not good at judging the timing right now. You look at it like this.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: You mentioned the Bundang incident earlier. Who do you think will eventually defect from the party in the end as representative Han Dong-hoon demands an apology from the president as well as the expansion of the outside world? The President said

◇ Cho Won-jin: I should apologize to Mrs. Kim Gun-hee. Of course, but CEO Han Dong-won's method was a little wrong. In terms of change and reform, we should talk about the opposition party first. It's wrong to come out on the street and impeach. Shouldn't we start by talking about this conservative regime in a super constitutional way again? We should not talk about Lee Jae-myung or the opposition party, but continue to change and reform internally. In this way, I change and renew the power of the people first, so change your aides to Han Dong-hoon at the center.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: A complete revamp of Han Dong-geun's confidant first.

◇Jo Won-jin: I've seen a lot of people's behaviors because I keep protesting when I talk about them like Mr. Shin. But they eventually overlap with those who led the impeachment 7 years and 8 years ago. I keep thinking, "He's the same as anyone, he's the same as anyone," so look back. What did they do seven or eight years ago?

◆ Bae Seung-hee: What did the aides around Han Dong-hoon do

◇Jo Won-jin: Aren't they the ones who took the lead in talking and arguing about impeachment and went with that media tone? However, even now, we cannot say that considering how much the impeachment affected not only conservative supporters but also the people seven to eight years ago, and how the Moon Jae In administration, which was donated to the next administration, adversely affected the Republic of Korea. This is how you look at it.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: We can't do that, but representative Han Dong-hoon has completely revamped the presidential office, so-called they have nothing to reform, right? So is the president of Yoon Suk Yeol leaving the party?

◇Jo Won-jin: President Yoon Suk Yeol is not leaving the party, is he? So who's leaving the party? CEO Han Dong-hoon didn't do it, but he just kept fighting in a vague way and gave up the government. The people may judge that it would be better to say goodbye to each other in this case, such as the situation in which the presidential term of one Yoon Suk Yeol is more than a year old due to the Bundang incident.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. I see.

◇ Cho Won-jin: It is not right to attack and keep demanding changes in reform at a time when Yongsan's approval rating has fallen due to the approval rating.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Okay. Let me talk about the transcript. The Democratic Party of Korea, which released the transcript of the phone call between President Yoon Suk Yeol and Myung Tae-kyun, released additional transcripts again this time. I think it's all about the voice of President Yoon Suk Yeol or the voice of First Lady Kim Gun-hee. How

◇Jo Won-jin: There are many transcripts, but they're not. And lawmaker Yoon Sang-hyun said, "Rep. Yoon Sang-hyun has a very hateful position about Myung Tae-gyu." In that sense, the Democratic Party of Korea has nothing to lay down now that Myung Tae-kyun does not talk directly but comes up with a three-way story that he said through others.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: The Democratic Party's card is over.

◇ Cho Won-jin: I'm looking at it like that.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Oh, so there's a story that some of the recordings that were released last time were edited. Yoon Suk Yeol President's conversation with Myung Tae Gyun has been edited.

◇ Cho Won-jin: That's the story of pollack. If you listen to the whole story, it's not like that, but they only extracted the parts they needed. That's what was edited. Even if you solve the whole thing in full, that's right. But taking out only the necessary parts and extracting them like that is an intentional editing.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Has an intention What intention

◇Jo Won-jin: They want to go the way they want to go, and they want to crash Yongsan more like this. You have to peel everything I'm talking about.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Myung Tae-kyun will appear at the prosecution on the 8th. It's the day after the president's public statement. Will the puzzles be solved if Myung appears at the prosecution?

◇Jo Won-jin: It's probably going to take quite a while to work on the puzzle because there's a lot of talk I've spit out. The question is whether there is anything illegal or not, but I don't think it's a private conversation to talk about that part first because the prosecution is doing it with legal standards. And now, any recordings with the president and these parts will come out when the prosecution forensics. There was an opportunity to distance myself from coming out. That's what I think. Such situations developed after taking office because people around him said a lot of bad things about Myung Tae-kyun. That's what I know and I'm listening to it.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Myung Tae-kyun is talking about burning up the evidence he has. In what sense should I take it?

◇ Cho Won-jin: This is developing in a different direction that you thought, and in that regard, Myung Tae-kyun also has a lot of concerns. These are the contents.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Please save me

◇ Cho Won-jin: You can go legally, but you can do it fairly without saving it. Is that so? It saves that.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: From your point of view,

◇ Cho Won-jin: Isn't that funnier? You can go to jail if you're wrong. If you're not wrong, you can go to jail. I think you went overboard in various situations. So here we go.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Okay. In this regard, I think this will probably be mentioned at President Yoon's press conference. If this press conference brings out some stories about Myung Tae-kyun, will the public sentiment return and the suspicions that the public is curious about will be resolved?

◇ Cho Won-jin: The question is how to convey President Yoon Suk Yeol's sincerity to the people and how to organize the facts. I think this is the most important part. How to convey the truth and what nuances to convey and how to persuade the public to be what it is. Isn't this the most important thing? After the press conference, people who oppose for opposition in various areas will oppose it no matter how much they say it, but some misunderstandings can be resolved. I have this idea.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see. Isn't Lee Jae-myung's trial now held twice on November 15th and 25th? Kim Hye-kyung is also on the 14th, and the People's Power filed a petition with the court to request a live TV broadcast so that the people can watch the first trial of Lee Jae-myung. How do you think the court will judge you?

◇Jo Won-jin: The Democratic Party of Korea says that political trials are suppressing human rights, but in the past, it was much worse. Those who have been presidential candidates and have the potential to become president in the future are obligated to answer the public's questions if they do not go against the public interest. I think I'm innocent of live broadcasting, so isn't it right for CEO Lee Jae-myung to ask me to do it live?

◆ Bae Seung-hee: That's right. Since he claims to be innocent, it's definitely

◇ Cho Won-jin: You should tell the people that you are innocent. Because I'm innocent.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: But in the Democratic Party. They're saying that it's a violation of human rights.

◇ Cho Won-jin: It is not fair.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Do they claim that the disclosure of former President Park Geun Hye was also a violation of human rights?

◇ Cho Won-jin: How curious would the public be when the president of the National Assembly is on trial when he is the president of the National Assembly? I think it's better to have an opportunity to explain the wrong part through live broadcasts.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: That's right. Recently, in the pan-opposition camp, instead of impeachment, the constitutional amendment to shorten the term of office and shorten the term of office has been gaining momentum in this area. amendment to the constitution

◇ Cho Won-jin: Why are you laughing because it's outside in the intestine? It's not right to go to the market and talk about constitutional amendment to shorten the term of office, because Lee Jae-myung's Democratic Party has a lot of concerns. If we continue to impeach, representative Lee Jae-myung will become president, whether it is good or not, depending on the outcome of the trial, I think there are some things that President Yoon Suk Yeol should think about regardless of the impeachment issue. Later, the revision of the four-year two-term system by shortening the term of office was mentioned by the ruling and opposition parties, so we need to think about those parts a little bit, but it's the same as saying that we will kick out the constitutional amendment by asking him to step down from impeachment. Can the president of Yoon Suk Yeol receive that? It's just their daydream. Dream

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I'll conclude that I'm not very anxious. There is a poll you mentioned earlier. It's a poll about the 202% approval rating. This was the result of a survey conducted by Realmeter from the 28th to the 1st place at the request of the energy economy. For more information, please refer to the website of the Central Election Poll Review Committee. That's all for today. So far, we've all been with Republican Party Chairman Cho Won-jin. Thank you.

◇Jo Won-jin: Thank you.