Jung Sung-ho said, "It's not desirable to express the heightened level of the family name system.Scream movement? "It doesn't affect me".

◆ [YTN Radio SHINYUL's news]
■ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (17:00-19:00)
■ Air date: November 18, 2024 (Monday)
■ Proceedings: Shin Yul, Professor of Political Science and Diplomacy at Myongji University
■ Talk: Jung Sung-ho, member of the Democratic Party of Korea

* The text below may differ from the actual broadcast content, so please check the broadcast for more accurate information.

- Lee Jae-myung's prison sentence is quite shocking.Unthinkable result
- Furious expression is undesirable..Respect the judiciary's ruling
- The investigation into the first presidential candidate in history...No judge outside pressure with outdoor rallies
- Some lawmakers' radical remarks, expressions of dissatisfaction with rulings that are not externally pressured
- Return of state subsidies? The unconstitutional element is very large.In the future, the Constitutional Court must fight
- After reinforcing witnesses for 'violation of election law', they must be acquitted of the appeals court
- A non-crime movement? It's not an element of caution.I don't think there is much impact on the movement such as the first meeting
- Kim Dong-yeon also attended the Gwanghwamun rally.Tells that you will be with the party
- Is the new future Democratic Party acting as a non-crime platform? There's no chance.Jeon Byung-hun is just a hope
- Han Dong-hoon, it's not time to attack the opposition leader.It is not desirable for lawmakers such as impeachment and constitutional amendment to come forward first.
- The Democratic Party of Korea should respond calmly at times like this.Excessive response is undesirable
- Suspicion of 'intervention in the nomination' Myung Tae-kyun, it seems unlikely that the 檢 will be properly investigated.

◆ Shin Yul: Let's start part 2 of YTN Radio's Shin Yul's News Head-to-head Match. Jung Sung-ho of the Democratic Party of Korea is the one to meet in today's face-to-face interview for the second part. You're in the studio right now. Please come in.

◇ Jung Sung-ho: Yes, how are you?

◆ You were surprised, weren't you? After looking at the first trial's ruling, CEO Lee Jae-myung

◇ Jung Sung-ho: I never dreamed of a prison sentence. I was quite shocked.

◆ Sin-ryul: No, I don't know if it's because everyone is shocked, but I think some members of the Democratic Party are using quite a bit of a rousing phrase right now. There's the word priest of God, and there's the word servant of God. What's next? What do you think about the screams that aren't appropriate to talk about on TV?

◇ Jung Sung-ho: It's not desirable. Usually, even if individual lawmakers are dissatisfied with and angry about this shocking ruling, isn't it a ruling anyway? I think the judiciary's ruling should be respected. However, it is possible to criticize the ruling socially. Anyway, since it's the first trial, isn't there a trial process left until the second and third trials? That's why I don't think it's desirable to criticize judges here or impeach judges, as some say, whether it's a matter that should be supplemented more legally or in terms of evidence. Anyway, the Democratic Party of Korea thinks that the court's ruling is too much for the official position of Chairman Lee Jae-myung, but it will fight properly at the appeal trial anyway. Isn't this the position? I personally think that it's not good to make such emotional remarks.

◆ Shin Yul: Do some people think it's possible to compare the death sentence of former President Kim Dae Jung with the current case?

◇ Jung Sung-ho: Anyway, wasn't the president of Kim Dae Jung very severely suppressed by the regime? Just as he was almost buried and actually sentenced to death by the Supreme Court, but he overcame such difficulties, and Representative Lee Jae-myung is also in a very difficult judicial situation, so isn't it an encouraging statement to overcome such a crisis?

◆ Shin Yul: Okay. It's next Monday. The first trial ruling will be released in exactly a week. What do you think? I actually don't know anything right now. I'm not a legal professional and I don't know anything, but if I analyze the comments from the Democratic Party like this, I think I pay more attention to the perjury teacher problem than the violation of the Election Public Official Election Act. What do you think?

◇ Jung Sung-ho: Violation of the Public Official Election Act was a little misunderstood because it was said during a broadcast talk and then during another broadcast debate, but I thought it was not actually a prosecution because it was an expression of opinion, but doesn't the perjury teacher's problem seem a little guilty?

◆ Shin Yul: It's a bit weird when a teacher goes in.

◇ Jung Sung-ho: The nature of the crime seems to be bad, but in this case, in relation to Representative Lee Jae-myung and witness Kim Jin-sung, Representative Lee Jae-myung has consistently stressed several times to tell the truth as he remembers it, so he may have misunderstood that he asked for perjury, but I believe the perjury teacher did not mean it. Also, in the worst case of other perjury teachers, I think I'm most likely innocent, but in the worst case, isn't the perjury or perjury teacher obstructing justice so that it's different from other perjury teachers? But this is a perjury teacher who said he was falsely accused of using it. So, it was a perjury trial, and to say that he was falsely accused was a statement of opinion, not a statement of fact. That's how it was confirmed by the Supreme Court. Kim Jin-sung's perjury and his perjury had no effect on the judgment because he was acquitted in all the first, second, and third trials. That's why there are talks about failed perjury, but in that sense, the sentencing should be fully referenced, but there was no reason to ask for perjury because representative Lee Jae-myung also made such a claim.

◆ Sin Yul: But how do you watch it? We have an outdoor rally next Saturday, and we have another outdoor rally this Saturday. However, I don't know if people will go overboard if they hold the microphone for this outdoor rally, but there are voices that say that these things are actually not that moderate from the perspective of the judiciary. What do you think?

◇ Jung Sung-ho: I've given a lot of thorny answers to being a member of the National Assembly and consistently judicializing politics and politicizing justice many times. Lawmakers sued and accused each other as special envoys, and in the past, after the election, they all dropped charges and accusations against each other. There was no such thing this time. It is the first time in history that a presidential candidate has been accused and investigated, and I don't think it's desirable for us to make a comment about the court. However, the judges of our court feel external pressure there because of politicians' outdoor rallies, or I don't think so. However, the Democratic Party of Korea in the National Assembly should consistently respect the independence of the judiciary or the independence of judges. I have that position. Also, some lawmakers say they make radical remarks, but they didn't mean to exert such external pressure on the court anyway, or they expressed some kind of dissatisfaction with the ruling. I'd like to say that.

◆ Sin-ryul: In fact, not only some lawmakers, but also very important leadership figures in the party's leadership are saying this is a political trial, it's a political judgment, it's a subjugation, and in fact, personally, I don't think that's very desirable.

◇ Jung Sung-ho: I think the investigation was very selectively prosecuted. Based on the investigation and prosecution of representative Lee Jae-myung, there are many people who are much worse guilty if they investigated and prosecuted various remarks when Yoon Suk Yeol was a candidate at the time. Therefore, we have defined such a thing as a selective investigation by the prosecution and a political retaliatory investigation anyway, but it can be said that complaints about such things are included now.

◆ Shin Yul: In particular, one of the reasons why the Democratic Party feels that it is now politically retaliatory is Lee Jae-myung's sentence. It's a home. If the Supreme Court confirms the prison sentence or the deprivation of the right to run for election, is the Democratic Party's election cost 43.4 billion won? Don't you have to throw this up? Isn't this too much?

◇ Jung Sung-ho: It's hard to talk about it on the premise of family. However, when the candidate was sentenced to invalidity of the election or deprivation of the right to run for election anyway, didn't the political party return the government subsidy? Personally, I think that's a bit unconstitutional. Because you can't predict or control how you become a candidate and then make a statement. Therefore, it is against the over-prohibition to return the entire election cost. Then, because it infringes on the freedom of political parties, the establishment of political parties, the organization, and the freedom of political parties, I believe that part should be contested in the Constitutional Court or the Constitutional Court in the future.

◆ Shin Yul: No, but I think you're actually right. Even that party did that, so I just shook it off.
◇ Jung Sung-ho: But wasn't it unpredictable?

◆ Shin Yul: Do you know how much the Democratic Party is now? The market price is now 39 billion won.

◇ Jung Sung-ho: It's a market price, but the actual transaction was a little bit like that before then

◆ Sin-ryul: Even if it's 39 billion won, it's not enough for this money. Even if you sell this right away, I agree with that. But some people are asking me straightforwardly. It's time to think about Plan B. What do you think?

◇ Jung Sung-ho: Anyway, since this is the first trial decision, don't you have 2nd, 3rd trial? Shouldn't we do our best to the Supreme Court and make a claim and prove it from a legal perspective anyway? I'm a little disappointed that there was something more lacking in the proof. In particular, regarding whether there was pressure or not on the Ministry of Land, Infrastructure and Transport, Seongnam city officials say they did not feel pressure, but there are many other disproving. In that respect, I think it's important that we reinforce the witnesses and do a better job of making the argument in detail on the legal aspect and get this acquitted at the appeal trial.

◆ Sin Yul: It's too early. But I think it's moving in the first episode. Isn't there a saying that Prime Minister Kim Boo-kyum is doing a special inspection? Of course, Governor Kim Dong-yeon says it is not the time to think about Plan B, but many people think that they can literally believe it like this, but what I think is actually moving is because, in my memory, Governor Kim Dong-yeon suddenly held a press conference three or three days before the first trial was sentenced to Lee Jae-myung, and lawmaker Kim demanded the independent counsel to carry it out. But of course, it's politics, so you can do that, but I've seen it in an unusual way. What do you think? Their movements?

◇ Jung Sung-ho: I'm not paying much attention to the various movements of the people in the circle who call them screams. Many members of the National Assembly also agree that the party is in a crisis right now and that the party leader is in a very difficult situation, but of course, it is necessary to maintain orderly treatment and respond to it. That's why I don't think the movements of the so-called non-congressmen outside, whether it's the first time or not, have much impact. However, in the case of Governor Kim Dong-yeon's remarks, I think it was timely to criticize President Yoon Suk Yeol's statement or press conference on November 7th, and to argue that Kim Gun-hee should observe the special prosecutor. Governor Kim Dong-yeon appeared at the Gwanghwamun rally last Saturday. When he came out, he was very concerned about the current situation and told me that he would be with the party.

◆ Shin Yul: Okay. But some people said that Jeon Byung-hun, the leader of the New Future Democratic Party, came out last Friday and said this. You said that it would be nice if we could just come out and act as a platform because your real name is so unique, but as a person who majored in political science for more than 40 years, I'm not sure about that. I wonder if that's possible.

◇ Jung Sung-ho: It's a claim that party members and lawmakers can't get support like this, and now representative Jeon Byung-hun

◆ Sin-ryul: The power of the party is important. People like us

◇ Jung Sung-ho: Of course. I think it's just the hope of CEO Jeon Byung-hun, but there's little chance of that happening.

◆ Shin Yul: Han Dong-hoon, the representative of the People's Power, said this. We will set up a task force team to monitor the rapid progress of Lee's trial to prevent distortion of the trial process. What do you think of lawmaker Chung as he was a lawyer?

◇ Jung Sung-ho: I'm Han Dong-hoon's representative of the ruling party and one of the leading candidates of the ruling party, right? Representative Lee Jae-myung will be arrested in court now. People say that even if the Democratic Party throws up 430 seats, it won't be ruined.

◆ Shin Yul: When you say you have 50 billion left

◇ Jung Sung-ho: I don't think it's the right time for the ruling party leader to talk about that. In the past, President Kim Young-sam also told President Kim Dae Jung not to investigate slush funds, and President Roh Moo Hyun also told President Lee Hoi-chang not to investigate cars during the presidential election. What is the approval rating of the ruling party now? There are rumors that it will recover and the political sector will recover, but isn't it almost the worst situation? Since people's livelihoods are really difficult, the ruling party's leader should not mock the opposition leader and ridicule the opposition party in this situation, but rather think about how to overcome this difficult situation while thinking about people's livelihoods and delivering such a message.

◆ Shin Yul: And now that I'm talking about it, what comes to mind is that the Democratic Party is holding an off-the-shelf rally right now. But of course, I haven't made such a voice official now, but do you think there is a possibility that there will be more active talks such as impeachment or early presidential election in the future?

◇ Jung Sung-ho: I don't think so. For me, impeachment or constitutional amendment is consistently done by the people. Even if the majority of the people are willing to stop the constitution, they should not be able to complete the president's term. Opinions should be gathered to this extent. When opinions are expressed to that extent, they will be expressed in the square, or any form is expressed, lawmakers take the process in the National Assembly instead. I personally don't think impeachment or constitutional amendment is desirable. I don't think that's the current situation. The problem now is that Kim Gun-hee's various illegal activities or intervention in nominations are being revealed a lot. Therefore, there are various claims and considerable evidence that the president's anger was the biggest cause of distorting the investigation in the case of Coporal Chae and the special prosecution of Kim Gun-hee. So, the first thing to do is to carry out the special prosecutor's office of Coporal Chae and find out the mess of state affairs anyway. In the process, shouldn't there be any illegal acts by the president, which is really equivalent to the president, and if there is an illegal act in his job, he will go to impeachment? I don't think that the reports that appear in some parts of the country are the reasons for impeachment of the president. Shouldn't it be objectively proven and that this is a serious and obvious reason?

◆ Shin Yul: To be honest, you've seen Myung Tae-kyun and Lee Jun-seok, but actually, it's a little controversial, but I don't think this is a reason for impeachment. From what we've seen so far, some say that it could backfire. Anyway, if a stronger ruling comes out next Monday than I thought, it will be over if the verdict is found not guilty, but I'm worried that the situation will intensify.

◇ Jung Sung-ho: At times like this, the party responds more calmly. And anyway, since this is a trial, I don't think it's desirable to take too much control of the judiciary. In terms of legal and legal aspects, I think it is necessary for the party to do its best to make good results within the judicial process and for the Democratic Party to take care of people's livelihoods and take care of the budget.

◆ Sin Yul: According to the result of Realmeter's ARS poll of 2,505 voters aged 18 or older nationwide from the 11th to the 15th at the request of the Energy Economics Newspaper, President Yoon Suk Yeol recorded 23%. What do you think?

◇ Jung Sung-ho: It's improved if you go back and forth by 1-2%, but in the end, it's hard to say that the power of state administration has been restored with about 23% and 20% of the approval rating in the first half. However, even within the ruling party, it is believed that the supporters gathered a little after the president's last statement, not that the people gave it back after having confidence in the president. If the president really doesn't change his mind and do it properly, wouldn't he fall back?

◆ Shin Yul: And I actually want to ask you one more thing: Representative Lee Jae-myung's judicial risk has become visible now. That's what the media says, but it may not be that only the Democratic Party is in trouble. I think that's what you can think. I don't think the power of the people can just look at this problem in such a generous situation.

◇ Jung Sung-ho: Isn't the public not trusting the president's overall state administration and the ruling party's ability to manage state administration? Since the Democratic Party is doing well, the public's approval rating is falling and the president's evaluation of state affairs is falling, right? The ruling party should be responsible. I don't think the ruling party is in a situation where the party leader's various judicial risks or situations will make the city happy and the ruling party's leader will mock it. We need to think about how we can reform the state administration and come up with alternatives.

◆ Shin Yul: Since you've been in politics for a long time, what do you think about this person's problem? I heard there are a lot of people like this in politics.

◇ Jung Sung-ho: There's always a lot going on. Anyway, looking at his various transcripts and things like this, I think the political level of the Republic of Korea is only this high. In addition, former CEO Lee Joon-seok is involved, several Dr. Kim Jong-in is involved, and many people are talking about it. Especially, I'm very embarrassed to hear that he talked to First Lady Kim Gun-hee as president-elect and president-elect. Actually. In any case, I don't know how much the president was involved in the nomination, but I hope the prosecution will admit it quickly and investigate it properly. What's important is that the prosecution is unlikely to investigate properly now. In the end,

◆ Shinryul: To what extent should I just cut it off

◇ Jung Sung-ho: I'm a little concerned that Myung Tae-kyun and Kim Young-sun will violate the Political Fund Act and cut their tails in the case of the president's intervention.

◆ Shin Yul: Legally, there's only a recording of Myung Taekyun. So there's only an argument from Myung Taekyun. Wouldn't it be hard to catch something?

◇ Jung Sung-ho: Isn't it necessary to investigate other people involved in it? And to be honest, wouldn't it be revealed if Kim Gun-hee confiscated and searched her cell phone at the time? I pay a little, but if the president says he'll call me in person, and I can give him that phone call, in fact, the dispute can be decided quickly. Of course, there is no possibility that the prosecution will do that to me, right?

◆ Shin Yul: Okay. But the politics is really chaotic these days. I think you've never done this before.

◇ Jung Sung-ho: I'm embarrassed.

◆ Sin-ryul: Let's stop here today. Thank you.

◇ Jung Sung-ho: Thank you.

◆ Shin Yul: I was Jung Sung Ho of the Democratic Party of Korea.