[Politics ON] Lee Jae-myung "prosecutors prosecute without evidence" vs Han Dong-hoon "common sense prosecution"

■ Host: Anchor Kim Youngsoo Kim
■ Appearance: Kim Sung-tae, former floor leader of the People's Power, Hong Ik-pyo, former floor leader of the Democratic Party of Korea

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[Anchor]
Let's start <Politics On> looking at the outside and inside of politics. Today, I will analyze in-depth with Kim Sung-tae, former floor leader of the People's Power, and Hong Ik-pyo, former floor leader of the Democratic Party of Korea. Please come in. Hello, it's been a long time since I've seen you both. I'll go in right away. Please show us the first keyword. The first keyword is unfair. Regarding the prosecution's indictment of Representative Lee Jae-myung without detention on charges of personal misappropriation of budget such as corporate credit cards in Gyeonggi-do Province, former lawmaker Yoo Seung Min said that the prosecution could raise the issue of unfairness. However, that does not mean that all the illegal suspicions committed by CEO Lee Jae-myung will disappear. I'll listen to it myself.

First, the two prosecutors' sixth indictment of Representative Lee Jae-myung. And five trials. First of all, how do you rate yesterday's indictment?

[Kim Sung-tae]
To make matters worse, from the perspective of CEO Lee Jae-myung, it will be in the midst of a series of mountaineering. I will definitely appeal the results of the first trial of the Public Official Election Act last week. Then it's actually six. It's a situation where you have to spend all your political power in the trial. In that respect, didn't Kim Hye-kyung, who was originally an aide to Mr. Bae and his wife, be indicted earlier and sought judicial judgment? If it had been prosecuted at that time, it could have been combined and merged into one. But from the prosecution's point of view, who is CEO Lee Jae-myung? It is also the head of the main opposition party, the largest legislative power, the 170-seat National Assembly. I'm the leader of the party. Prosecuting such a person recklessly is quite dangerous for the prosecution as well. So, I think I've been prosecuted this time because I've been collecting and verifying all the evidence and legal principles are consistent.

[Anchor]
Do you agree that former Congressman Yoo Seung Min can be considered an unfair indictment?

[Kim Sung-tae]
The representative of Yoo Seung Min can take a position as representative of Yoo Seung Min. However, the prosecution judged the Deutsche Motors stock price manipulation case and the Diorback case accordingly.
[Anchor]
Representative Lee Jae-myung expressed his position a little while ago, and the prosecution said they would prosecute without evidence.

[Kim Sung-tae]
It's not that. I watch it. Didn't we reveal a lot of evidence in detail again this time? The conclusion, starting with the vehicle problem, was that it covered various living expenses arising from his personal family history.

[Anchor]
He charged about 100 million won with misappropriation. They charged them with misappropriating vehicles, corporate cards, and budgets. I see. How did floor leader Hong Ik-pyo see it?

[Hongikpyo]
Overall, Representative Yoo Seung Min also spoke, and in summary, the first is a kind of rain-restraint investigation that is followed by a series of separate investigations. So we investigate until it comes out. At first, it started with Daejang-dong, Baekhyun-dong, Seongnam FC, and then it turned around, and now it's the election law, perjury teacher, and corporate card. So this is simply an unprecedented case of an omnidirectional investigation and a dereliction investigation in this way against a specific person in all directions.

The second is the issue of differentiation, that is, equity, as the representative of Yoo Seung Min said earlier. For example, there is a problem of equity because the prosecution does not unconditionally indict or investigate the Deutsche Motors case, the Diorback issue this time, and other issues related to President Yoon Suk Yeol at all. Lastly, as CEO Lee Jae-myung said, the third is unreasonable prosecution, there is solid evidence in the case of corporate credit card issues this time. In other words, there is no clear evidence as to whether CEO Lee Jae-myung actually ordered the misappropriation of corporate cards or recognized them. That's how the employees used it excessively, and they are now prosecuting it on the grounds that CEO Lee Jae-myung would have ordered it. That's why I think there are problems in various legal principles.

[Anchor]
According to the summary of the prosecution's prosecution, Lee Jae-myung was indicted on charges of misappropriating 106 million won in the use of official cars and corporate cards, fruits, sandwiches, and laundry fees. Floor leader Park Chan-dae used the expression "mad political retaliation." Supreme Council member Kim Min-seok strongly criticized the prosecution, using the expression "Yangachi in Seocho-dong" and "Kim Byung-joo" as "Mangnani Sword Dance." How did you like it, CEO Kim Sung-tae?

[Kim Sung-tae]
The first sentence of the Public Official Election Act has caused a huge inflection point for representative Lee Jae-myung's political blow, hasn't it? From what I can see now, I sometimes look into Korean constitutional history whenever I have time.Ma was the center of the constitutional history of the Republic of Korea as the main opposition party of the Democratic Party. In the past, the one-man leadership system, which is more completely solid than the leadership system that leads the stories of DJs and YSs, and the leadership of CEO Lee Jae-myung, are really great leadership from the other side. In that respect, he cannot even join the leadership if he does not become the hands and feet of Chairman Lee Jae-myung, especially the top members of the party's leadership to call himself a real name.

From the perspective of those people, they are almost in a state of panic over last week's decision on the Public Official Election Act, but since they were indicted yesterday, they say this is too much for them to do. In that respect, you can use all the vocabulary that you can't put into your mouth, and in a way, you can express it as a politician, it's a very intense atmosphere.

[Anchor]
After the first trial was sentenced, he used a lot of expressions attacking the court, calling it a political trial, but recently, he refrained from attacking the court and strongly criticized the prosecution.

[Hongikpyo]
In Korean history, there are areas where the judiciary's judgment should be respected to some extent. However, respecting the judiciary does not mean that you cannot criticize the judiciary's decision. However, Korean law cannot overturn the judiciary's decision. So there's a problem this time. Isn't Baekhyun-dong the most problematic of the Public Official Election Act? In the beginning, it was whether or not you knew the late Kim Moon-ki, but the biggest reason why he was acquitted and unexpectedly sentenced to heavy punishment was the false information about Baekhyun's case. That's the place of the parliamentary audit. Can I spread false information at the parliamentary audit? Of course, it is punished, but spreading false information at the parliamentary audit usually accuses the National Assembly of perjury, and the person affected by spreading false information is accused of defamation by spreading false information.

In that case, it is not done under the Public Official Election Act. I took this a step forward. If it's like this, it's like this. For example, there is a local election next year. Usually, the mayor of Seoul and the governor of Gyeonggi-do Province attend the parliamentary audit every time. on the Ministry of Land, Infrastructure and Transport and the Ministry of Government Administration From there, the first new precedent began to emerge as to whether a statement should be punished under the Public Official Election Act if it does not match the facts. Regarding this issue, we believe that it is wrong to prosecute it under the Public Official Election Act, regardless of whether it is false or not.

[Anchor]
So do you think a different ruling will come out in the second trial?

[Hongikpyo]
That's right. It looks like the High Court or the Supreme Court will definitely make a different judgment.

[Anchor]
We don't know how the second trial ruling will come out. How did you like it?

[Kim Sung-tae]
CEO Hong Ik-pyo is also in academia, so I think he's a person who has done a lot of legal review.Ma is generally a very heavy sentence in the case of a violation of the Public Official Election Act. If we get 300 to 500 fines from a normal fine, this is a fairly large amount that we can't afford to rob at the appeal trial. Less than 300, usually about 200, can be removed from the appeal. I'm really looking forward to it. But more than that, he was sentenced to prison. This is even more so from the judge's point of view, the chief judge is quite progressive and the conservative camp, as we often speak, is in such a position that they are concerned about the sentence of the trial against him, but the judge has analyzed all the prosecution, contents, and evidence from the trial for two and a half years. As a result, I don't think this will be overturned even after going to the appeals court.

[Anchor]
In a way, CEO Lee Jae-myung faced a big crisis due to political leadership.

[Kim Sung-tae]
There is a story like this in the political world recently. Isn't there a word called "transfer"? Lee Jae-myung's enemy is Lee Jae-myung. So, during the impeachment of then President Park Geun Hye in 2016, there was a Blue House claim that the leakage of the Park Geun Hye speech was not a violation of the Presidential Records Management Act. At that time, Lee Jae-myung was the mayor of Seongnam, and if he does something bad, he should be scolded and punished. In addition, in the case of MB, it is a world where it is not possible to reveal the past through political retaliation with the past in 2017, and it is not possible to commit crimes and not take responsibility even then. So, the interpretation of the law is not done by the criminal, but by the court judge or the prosecutor who prosecuted it.

[Anchor]
Let me ask you one more question. People's Power is insisting on a live broadcast of the first trial of perjury teacher next Monday. Do you think we have to do a live broadcast?

[Kim Sung-tae]
I don't think we should approach this too politically from the standpoint of the people's power. Respecting the judiciary's judgment, the judiciary has disclosed some of the facts of former President Park Geun Hye's trials in the past.E. Since there have been cases like that in the past, do it again this time. I think we should respect the judgment of the court in that even the judgment of the separation of powers should not have political influence.

[Anchor]
I see. The ruling party strongly requested live broadcasting during the first trial of the Public Official Election Act. I'm requesting it again this time. What kind of background do you think it is?

[Hongikpyo]
Here's what I think. Many people didn't think they would be guilty during the last election law. So it's not like we avoided it because it's like we're going to be guilty. As Representative Kim Sung-tae said, first of all, it is the court's judgment, so the court should do it with the consent of the parties or the court's public interest judgment, but the moment the political world tells it to do it, it becomes very difficult for the court to do it. In a situation where it is not easy for the parties to agree because the moment takes the form of a favor of a particular political party, it is difficult for the court to broadcast it live in my view, and that itself is unusual in the past as a former president in the case of President Lee Myung Bak and President Park Geun Hye, so I don't think this is the case.

[Anchor]
Thank you. Let's continue with the next keyword. There are a lot of political issues today. Please show me. It's former lawmaker Kim Doo-kwan. After Lee Jae-myung's first trial ruling, the prospects for the post-Lee Jae-myung, who will replace the Lee Jae-myung system, are very cautious inside and outside the Democratic Party. Former lawmaker Kim Doo-kwan was wary of the expanded interpretation, saying it was a coincidence that the timing of his return was not the time to discuss Plan B. Let's listen to it.

On the 18th, I held a one-man protest in front of the presidential office in Yongsan on Monday. While demanding a constitutional amendment. Such a protest was not done with the thought of post-Lee Jae-myung, it's just a coincidence. On the 18th, he talked about his one-man protest. He also expressed his position that the presidential challenge is too much of an interpretation. But what did former lawmaker Kim Doo-kwan claim, what do you think about that? It is time to discuss constitutional amendment.

[Hongikpyo]
Not only Rep. Kim Doo-kwan but also various members of our party are talking about this. Another opposition party is talking, isn't it? There are aspects that need to change our constitution. And is the president of Yoon Suk Yeol doing his job properly? And there are public opinions about whether it is right to continue this, so there have been talks of impeachment several times within our party. It's not an official position yet. It is not an official position, but there are various contents such as impeachment or suspension of term through constitutional amendment, so I think former lawmaker Kim Doo-kwan's position itself is enough for me to say as an individual politician. However, I think it's too much to say that it's the next presidential plan, Plan B, just in case of CEO Lee Jae-myung. The person talking about the president himself is wrong, and I don't think so, as soon as even Chairman Lee Jae-myung talks about the possibility of the next presidential election, all the current Democratic Party's political activities will be tarnished.

[Anchor]
The president of Yoon Suk Yeol should shorten his term by one year and open a new republic. That's why they insist on a constitutional amendment. What do you think?

[Kim Sung-tae]
Now, for two and a half years, with the inauguration of President Yoon Suk Yeol's administration in 2022, some people are saying that Yoon Suk Yeol's presidency will not be fully completed, but rather than supporting President Yoon Suk Yeol's state affairs in such a situation and solving the problem through cooperation, isn't it the only shallow politics left? In that respect, the issue of Kim Gun-hee's independent counsel is still a political issue, and Kim Gun-hee's risk is at the center of all policies covered by the Yoon Suk Yeol government. If we ask for a special prosecutor, this special prosecutor will be connected to the president in the future, and this will lead to claims of impeachment or dismissal. If that doesn't work, let's make a short term constitutional amendment as a political compromise to solve this problem politically while avoiding the suspension of the constitution. Then, we will overcome the judicial risk of representative Lee Jae-myung and overcome the early presidential election.

[Anchor]
Before the Supreme Court's final decision?

[Kim Sung-tae]
Therefore, on this side, the Yoon Suk Yeol government can shed its disgrace through a constitutional amendment to shorten the term of office. That's why a lot of political pundits, mostly Democrats, are now very much embodying this scenario.

[Anchor]
This scenario continues to be raised by some opposition parties. The prerequisite is that the president of Yoon Suk Yeol has to decide. Can this continue without the determination of the President of Yoon Suk Yeol?

[Kim Sung-tae]
So, whether it is impeachment or constitutional amendment, the president's consent... Impeachment should be judged by the Constitutional Court if it is proposed by two-thirds of the National Assembly, but constitutional amendment that shortens the term of office is promulgated only when the president accepts it. Constitutional amendment without fear can never be achieved. So it's something that the president has to make up his mind.

[Hongikpyo]
But this problem has a bit of history. There's a history. For a long time, there have been talks about the evils of the five-year single-term system in politics. Let's amend the constitution to a four-year, two-term system. So the president of Roh Moo Hyun raised it for the first time. Because in 2008, he said that he should shorten his term of office by himself by raising the issue in a way that he could do the parliamentary election and presidential election together. Since you said that, Korea's big elections are currently held in presidential, local, and parliamentary elections, and since they are held in odd numbers every time, sometimes they are held in the same year, but sometimes they are divided in succession. So, if we shorten the term for a year, it would be nice to hold local and presidential elections at the same time and hold a general election as an interim evaluation of the regime. This is actually something that lawmakers from the ruling and opposition parties have been discussing for quite some time in politics.

[Anchor]
The Democratic Party of Korea is now moving around representative Lee Jae-myung as a single battalion. However, there could be a second trial sentence in the future. And next week's perjury teacher can be added. If so, isn't it possible to operate Plan B if it is judged that it is difficult to hold a presidential election under Lee Jae-myung's system? Wouldn't that be possible? How do you see it?

[Hongikpyo]
So far, that hasn't been mentioned yet. First of all, with representative Lee Jae-myung at the center, let's endure pressure from the outside more strongly through internal bonds rather than dividing when the party faces any threats or difficulties from the outside, and this attempt is expected to continue for a considerable period of time.

[Anchor]
Vice-President Shin Ji-ho will see an increase in the number of lawmakers in Joo Myung-yadong. So, he pretends to be his real name during the day and claims that he will be agitated at night.

[Hongikpyo]
I don't think that possibility is high yet. So, if the results of the second trial come out and that happens, it should not happen, but if something unfortunate happens, I think it will be organized in an orderly manner, centered on representative Lee Jae-myung.

[Kim Sung-tae]
The current crisis for the Democratic Party of Korea is that the first trial of the Public Official Election Act last week did not predict that such an unconventional ruling of imprisonment would come out.

[Anchor]
If this is confirmed as it is, the right to run for election will be deprived of 10 years.

[Kim Sung-tae]
So, the crisis of the Democratic Party of Korea under the Lee Jae-myung system is not open to any plan B or plan C, or any language of the party, under the leadership of Lee Jae-myung. Regardless of political power or political party, it's a one-man system, and it's quite dangerous to have a structure where you only have to hold the person's will and hand with the person. In that respect, it is not too late to decide the 2027 presidential election after seeing the final result of Lee Jae-myung's judicial risk, which is commonly said because diversity is missing. If you judge like this, it may be too easy for the Democratic Party to see 2027.

[Anchor]
I listened well because the Supreme Court has not yet been finalized.

Let's move on to the next keyword. The next keyword is back trading. This is Park Chan-dae, the floor leader. While the Democratic Party of Korea is strongly protesting, calling it a "mean political oppression," it is highlighting suspicions related to Myung Tae-kyun. Park Chan-dae, the floor leader of the party, strongly insisted that the "Yoon nuclear officer"'s conciliation of Myung Tae-kyun and the destruction of evidence were revealed. Let's listen to the top comment today.

[Anchor]
Not long ago, the voice record of President Yoon Suk Yeol was released. After that, Rep. Yoon Han-hong talked to Myung Tae-kyun. Isn't that a conciliation? That's why I'm filing a complaint with the ethics committee.

[Hongikpyo]
Anyway, isn't Myung Tae-kyun the center of various suspicions and incidents? However, I think it is a very inappropriate transaction for a major person in the passport to contact them and ask them to do this. In particular, the investigation is being conducted depending on Myung Tae-kyun's mouth. I'm not asking you to selectively disclose all of it, but to disclose it, it can raise a lot of suspicion in my opinion, and if this problem goes wrong, it can be a kind of thing that presents guidelines to the prosecution. That's why it was a very inappropriate move, and especially Representative Yoon Han-hong, as you know well, didn't you know that you had a long-term relationship with Myung Tae-kyun from the community in the early days anyway? In that respect, I think it was an even more inappropriate transaction.

[Anchor]
It's being confirmed by the report now.

[Kim Sung-tae]
In fact, Myung Tae-kyun and Yoon Han-hong have known each other a long time ago in the Changwon area, but especially in the process of the candidate becoming a candidate for people's power during the 2022 Yoon Suk Yeol, no one in Changwon knows Lee, but for Yoon Han-hong, Myung Tae-kyun is a very dangerous person. That's why don't you keep Myung Tae-kyun close to the Yoon Suk Yeol candidate at the time and stay away from him. After that, the relationship was quite uncomfortable enough to do so. They are two people in such an uncomfortable relationship, and even when Myung Tae-kyun revealed all the details of the phone calls and friendships of President Yoon Suk Yeol and First Lady Kim Gun-hee, and sometimes blackmailed and threatened him, Rep. Yoon Han-hong asked him directly to release the recording and strongly told him not to talk to the President's wife and mother-in-law, how could he have said that to himself? I don't know how this was conveyed to the Democratic Party of Korea in a detour, but lawmaker Yoon Han-hong is quite cautious because he has a lot of experience in Cheong Wa Dae and an administration experience.

[Anchor]
If you look at various recordings, the presidential candidate's chief of staff also claims that he ordered someone he wanted. In many ways, he said that he did not run for governor of Gyeongsangnam-do Province regarding the nomination intervention. I don't know how far it's true. The prosecution is investigating right now.E.

[Hongikpyo]
In fact, we cannot know from the opposition's point of view because it is not an investigative agency, but I think this controversy itself does not seem to be very unfounded. This is because the person Myung Tae-kyun contacted met all the influential figures and representative figures of the passport that are difficult for ordinary people to meet. Isn't it confirmed to some extent that those who are mentioned now talked to Kim Jong-in, former chairman of the emergency committee, Lee Joon-seok, Governor of South Gyeongsang Province Park Wan-soo, Mayor of Daegu Hong Joon Pyo, and the President and his wife almost every day? Being able to talk to the president-elect is a huge power in the presidential election. I was in the presidential campaign, but seeing the presidential candidate's face is a huge opportunity, and being able to connect and talk to the general public is the biggest power in the camp.

[Anchor]
Then what do you think the presidential office should do?

[Kim Sung-tae]
The important fact is when Myung Tae-kyun enters politics after President Yoon Suk Yeol and his wife finished their post as prosecutor general and meets various political experiences and political cooperation helpers to become presidential candidates for people's power. That's what everyone knows about maintaining a close relationship, and through this close relationship, the prosecution is taking a closer look at how much they violated the so-called Political Fund Act, which is called their political consultant. In that respect, I hope that the Changwon District Prosecutors' Office will make the investigation clear without any suspicions, and the influence of Myung Tae-kyun himself to determine the presidential chief of staff to the president-elect or candidate during Yoon Suk Yeol's presidency, which is not exaggerated. However, the Gyeongsangnam-do governor and the Gangwon governor have played a role in the process of getting one back the opportunity to compete and the other getting the opportunity to nominate. I'm going to talk about a lot of details.Isn't he also saying that the parties are absurd?

[Anchor]
Rep. Kwon Sung-dong also refuted the situation at the time. On the day of the presidential election, he said he was with Yoon Han-hong, Jang Je-won, and Yoon, and he said he would not take the position, and Jang Je-won said he wanted to serve as the president-elect's chief of staff. I explained it myself while talking about that. First of all, the prosecution's investigation is underway. As you said, I think we need to clarify it clearly.

Please show us the next keyword. It's a situation of people's power. a party audit This is the appearance of Rep. Kwon Sung-dong and Supreme Council member Kim Jong-hyuk. It's a matter of party bulletin board. There are voices of disagreement within the party over follow-up measures to the slander of President Yoon Suk Yeol and his wife, who were posted under the name of Han Dong-hoon and his family. While pro-Yoon-gye argues that the truth should be found out through a party audit, Supreme Council member Kim Jong-hyuk argues that a party audit is impossible. We will listen to the voice of Supreme Council member Kim Jong-hyuk.

[Anchor]
It seems that the pro-Yoon-gye is colliding with the close one again. First of all, do you think this is an issue that needs to be audited by the party?

[Kim Sung-tae]
If Lee Jae-myung, the leader of the Public Official Election Act, had not been sentenced to the first trial last week, the issue would have been seen as a big one again, and the conflict within the people's power would have been considerably demeaning. Now, representative Lee Jae-myung's judicial risk is like this. Yesterday, another content was prosecuted, but that's a really great event inside the people's power. Kim Jong-hyuk's best doctor is a key confidant of CEO Han Dong-hoon. Isn't he the highest member of the nominating committee appointed by CEO Han Dong-hoon? As he said, just because he posted a message of criticism on the party's internal bulletin board and a message criticizing the president and his wife to freely communicate and express their opinions, should we investigate it under the name of party affairs audit? This is the story, but the problem is that there are many comments with IPs in the names of CEO Han Dong-hoon and his family, so the party has already found out that CEO Han Dong-hoon may be the same name, but he is not CEO Han Dong-hoon.

In other words, Rep. Kwon Sung-dong and some members of the party want to clarify this accurately through a party audit. From Han Dong-hoon's point of view, it is not the time to argue over this issue. Now, we need to focus more on the opposition party, including Chairman Lee Jae-myung, and move with unity.

[Anchor]
The mayor of Hong Joon Pyo said that manipulating public opinion is no different from Myung Tae-kyun and Druking, and that those who are responsible should be responsible.

[Kim Sung-tae]
This is the texture of the Hong Joon Pyo market. I'm also the one who carried out the Druking special prosecution, but one person should take responsibility for the name of several people's family members, and that one person is talking about CEO Han Dong-hoon. Instead of raising controversy over the family, CEO Han Dong-hoon said, "You should take responsibility and reveal the truth of this problem."

[Anchor]
CEO Han Dong-hoon is not exactly stating his position.

[Kim Sung-tae]
That's right. The current situation is.

[Anchor]
How do you think it should be solved, Han?

[Kim Sung-tae]
The issue should be closed in the future if the party audit reveals its true intention to resolve the suspicion through the current party audit and the party's bulletin board itself as a free doctor.

[Anchor]
Some even say that they look at all 170,000 of them, set the standard for the act and forcefully expel the writer in question. What do you think of CEO Hong Ik-pyo?

[Hongikpyo]
First, the party's bulletin board is free to express opinions, so whatever you write is not illegal. Of course, if there is a false fact or something that is clearly not true, for example, you can detect it and request it to an investigative agency as a false fact. However, it is not an offense with simple criticism or abusive language mixed with emotions. The second is related to personal information protection, so specifically identifying or identifying a specific person may violate the Personal Information Protection Act.

[Anchor]
It's not supposed to be searched, but it was temporarily opened and searched.

[Hongikpyo]
It is not easy because the Personal Information Protection Act is very strict. Last time, when we asked whether or not we had a party affiliation when representative Lee Jae-myung's terrorist incident occurred, both parties couldn't disclose it. This was because disclosing it could conflict with the Personal Information Act. But in this case, it's like this. It's not a legal issue, it's an ethical issue. If there are too many swear words on the party bulletin board or something like that, I think it is important to create a more filtering function, not legal sanctions. The problem within the current people's power is that if representative Han Dong-hoon and his family did this, this is actually a major figure and party leader. I think this is a criticism from the pro-Yoon-gye side of whether he actually acted as a leader. So I don't think CEO Han Dong-hoon needs to raise this problem. If that's true, there was something inappropriate, but I think it's better to admit that I'm sorry and move on.

[Kim Sung-tae]
During the Moon Jae In administration, Kim Hye-kyung, the wife of Lee Jae-myung, did so under the nickname of Hyegyeonggung Kim, so many articles were posted at that time. There was quite a controversy over that.

[Hongikpyo]
The investigation has not been confirmed. Suspicions were raised.

[Kim Sung-tae]
Suspicions have been raised and as CEO Hong said, I don't think this is a legal matter to judge legally on this issue. However, it would be quite unpleasant if ethically and unilaterally slander the president and his wife, and even systematically and intentionally posted it on the internal bulletin board of the ruling party. So these things are very upsetting. So instead of revealing the actual truth... It's already a hurt problem.

[Anchor]
Do you think the wound will be sutured well?

[Kim Sung-tae]
That's why CEO Hong said the answer to this question a little while ago. Rather than judging legally, I think the party leadership should have a position to apologize or ask for understanding from the party members if there is a substantive content, especially if it is directly related to the family members.

[Hongikpyo]
Even if it's true, I don't think it's enough to resign as a representative. However, if it's true, admitting and apologizing doesn't make this problem any longer.

[Anchor]
You two gave the same answer. Thank you very much. We'll see what position we'll take and what solutions we'll come up with. That's all for today's politics. He was with Kim Sung-tae, the former floor leader of the People's Power, and Hong Ik-pyo, the former floor leader. Thank you very much.