[Hold on] Lee Ho-young, who helps the self-reliant youth, said, "A case where a mother ran away with a deposit for her daughter."

■ Broadcast: YTN Radio FM 94.5 (20:20-21:00)
■ Date: December 29, 2024 (Sunday)
■ Proceedings: Professor Lee Seong-gyu
■ Talk: Lee Ho-young, CEO of 10 p.m.

* The text below may differ from the actual broadcast content, so please check the broadcast for more accurate information.

◆ Professor Lee Seong-gyu (hereinafter referred to as Lee Seong-gyu): You may have heard of 'Youth Preparing for Independence' at least once. They are protected in child care facilities, communal households, and foster homes, but the protection ends after the age of 18. Then, it means a young man who goes out on his own. The subjective 'life satisfaction' of young people preparing for self-reliance in Korea is not good. It is said to be 5.6 out of 10 points, which is lower than that of all young people. They suffer from psychological anxiety and financial difficulties. Lee Sung Kyu's happy comma, wait a minute. <There's no one like this.> Today, we invited a representative of a young man in his 30s who founded a non-profit organization that provides safe housing for young people preparing for self-reliance. I'll talk to Lee Ho-young, CEO of 10 p.m. Hello?

◇ Hoyoung Lee (hereinafter referred to as Hoyoung Lee) from 10:00 p.m.: Yes, hello.

◆ Lee Seong-gyu: '10 o'clock one-shot' reminds me of a Chinese idiom, but it's not a regular one, it's ten o'clock one-shot. Ten spoons come together and become a bowl of rice. But what's 10 o'clock 1st episode?

◇ Hoyoung Lee: Yes. We used the four-character idiom you mentioned in a fun way. I changed the word "ban" to a room, so the word "ban" is actually "bab-ban." Like the meaning of ten people working together to provide food to one person, we made it fun to name it "10 O'clock One Day" to provide a room for those who need a house.

◆ Lee Seong-gyu: Yes. You mentioned what you're doing now, so please tell us what you're doing specifically.

◇ Lee Ho-young: We are working to provide housing for young self-reliance-ready people who have been discharged from child care facilities such as child care centers. In the case of young people who have lived in child protection facilities for nearly 20 years and now have to find a home in society by themselves due to the end of protection, they lack a lot of money and pay monthly rent. So I thought I needed some help with those parts, so we created a non-profit organization to provide safe housing for young people.

◆ Lee Seong-gyu: But you register a non-profit organization in a state agency or somewhere. Where did you register it?

◇ Lee Ho-young: To get the approval of the nonprofit, we first got the approval of the Ministry of Employment and Labor. Next, in order to process the donation receipt to the donors, we need to obtain approval for the establishment of a public interest corporation through the National Tax Service and the Ministry of Information and Communication. So we received it, and based on it, we have become a donation receipt issuing organization that can deduct a certain percentage of the donation back to those who donate to us.

◆ Lee Seong-gyu: Young people preparing for self-reliance. Is there any other role other than this service that provides accommodation with these people?

◇ Lee Ho-young: We first thought of housing support, but we actually thought it was important to provide safe housing, but we also thought it was important to build and prepare a foundation for young people to continue to be independent by living in that residence. So that young people can receive education while living as well as housing. We provide education that we think is necessary for young people preparing for self-reliance, such as financial education, cooking education, and mind management education. So we're helping young people live, live in a safe, clean place, participate in the educational programs that we offer, and then really prepare themselves for independence.

◆ Lee Seong-gyu: Self-reliance and education are related to professional life. So it seems to be related to the Ministry of Employment and Labor.

◇ [Lee Hoyoung] I guess so.

◆ Lee Seong-gyu: These private organizations are supporting young people who are preparing for self-reliance these days, but do you feel that one shot at ten o'clock is a little different from other private organizations?

◇ Hoyoung Lee: We are operating in a way that focuses on each and every one of us. In some cases, the way non-profit organizations operate may provide services or products to a very large number of people, but there are also forms that provide deep services to a very small number of people like us. I think we're a little closer to the latter.

◆ Lee Seong-gyu: Can you explain with an example?

◇ For example, we can pick 100 people and add 100,000 won or 200,000 won in monthly rent support to 100 people, but we hire 10 people a year. That's why I meet 10 self-reliance preparation young people and give them a little bit of support. For example, we provide the full amount of rental deposit monthly rent support for housing, and we pay for all the budgets for the programs we run, starting with the textbook expenses for education, so we provide a lot of support for each person. But through him, I founded this organization with the intention that I wanted to make a deep change to one person rather than make a shallow change to several people in the first place. So we'll be of great help to each person, and I'll be able to spend a lot of time on each person. Because there are only 10 of us. Then I'll meet each person and tell them what kind of concerns you have, what kind of difficulties you're having right now, and whether you're sick anywhere. As a representative, I can easily trek. Then, you can respond appropriately, so you can think of it as pursuing a kind of depth change.

◆ Lee Seong-gyu: But you originally majored in business administration.

◇ [Lee Hoyoung] Yes, that's right.

◆ How did you end up in this way?

◇ Lee Ho-young: Actually, I was an intern at a financial company in Yeouido when I was majoring in business administration. That's how far I was from these non-profit organizations. But one day, I planned a project, and I formed a volunteer club. College students are actually very busy. So I couldn't go out far or take all day out to volunteer. But I was thinking about what to do because I wanted to do volunteer work, and I went to the student cafeteria at the school I was attending when I was a college student. So I asked the nutritionist if I could volunteer here at the restaurant for about an hour or two a day between my class and class, so why don't I volunteer here at that time? And then you don't have to pay me. If you give me a meal ticket, I told you that I would like to try giving it to vulnerable college students who need a meal ticket attending our school. So the nutritionist said okay, and I gathered 39 volunteers from the volunteer club and gathered the timetable, and they were my friends. I found the empty times of their lectures, cleaned the plates, cleaned the halls, sold food tickets, and helped them distribute side dishes. And in return, we received a meal ticket and delivered it anonymously to vulnerable college students. That's the name of the club I first started, 'Sissy Ilbab'. That's why it's an organization that feeds people. It grew and spread from the school I started to almost 29 universities across the country, and the number of college students participated was over 5,000. We donated a huge number of food stamps and established a non-profit organization to operate them according to the organization I grew up in. That was the first non-profit organization I founded called Sissy Ilbab. After three or four years of running, I completely went from being a business major to running a non-profit organization. And I left after I graduated from university. Even now, other people are running that rice. What I wanted to do a little more was actually to make a shallow change to the many people I explained earlier. the act of giving a meal ticket to several people But what I wanted to do was, this time, I wanted to do something that I wanted to make a big change to a smaller number of people. It was established and operated at ten o'clock today because I thought I should do it based on housing. You can think of it as the second non-profit organization I founded.

◆ Lee Seong-gyu: But you're not the person preparing for self-reliance, are you?

◇ Hoyoung Lee: Yes, it's not.

◆ Lee Seong-gyu: But now, their psychology and characteristics. I don't understand this in the beginning, so I think there might have been a little confusion.

◇ Hoyoung Lee: Yes. That part is still there. It is difficult to understand exactly the situation and mind of young people preparing for self-reliance because I am less involved. It was worse in the early days. In the early days, I didn't know what to be careful of in front of them, how to use words, and what words not to use, and I was nervous, so I went to study and met them. Then, it was even more awkward. Because it's not a human-to-human conversation, but as a person who is very careful about something, I thought it was not possible to form a human relationship. So of course, I'm careful to be careful, but that's not because they're young people preparing for self-reliance, but because they're just one person, I thought it's the same thing for everyone to be careful. From then on, I just interact person-to-person, and if there's anything they feel bad about, I apologize and never do it again. If there's something else you like, you reinforce that behavior again. As we interacted one by one in such a way as if we don't like or feel bad in a relationship, and if we like it, we don't do it, and if we like it, we naturally improved our understanding of young people preparing for self-reliance.

◆ Lee Seong-gyu: And how did you secure that fund, budget?

◇ Ho-young Lee: Actually, that's a lot of money, so I couldn't get money for about a year after establishing the organization at first, so I wrote and requested proposals to various places, but it's not a positive thing even if I don't get a reply quickly and get a reply again. There was a point where I didn't do anything for about a year, which I described as a bit of wasted time. So it was really hard back then. But one day, a company contacted me and said, 'We'll sponsor it.' That was a credit card company called BC Card, so in 2021, we welcomed 10 young people preparing for self-reliance with BC Card in the form of 'BBC Ten o'clock One Day', and we will provide them with housing support and education programs in the form of the format I mentioned earlier. So, this year has already entered its third year and 30 self-reliance preparation youth have been selected and operated.

◆ Lee Seong-gyu: There are also money among donation organizations and companies, but I think there are various forms of donation such as talent donation and home repair.

◇ Hoyoung Lee: Yes, there is. First of all, it's a financial company inside BC Card. So, I think that some knowledge related to cards, such as young people using credit cards indiscriminately or getting credit card loans, should be well educated. However, if there are no parents or adults around you who can catch those parts, there are cases where you wander a little. So BC card employees also use their financial knowledge to inform young people of their knowledge related to cards and financial knowledge. In addition, there are young people in Habitat, Korea, who lived in one of our ten o'clock rooms and now become independent. There are cases where you live in your own house or with your grandparents, but to improve their living environment, you don't remodel your house and simply wallpap the wall, you consult the current situation of young people preparing for self-reliance and the lifestyle you want to live in, and then you make a new room. Through large-scale remodeling work in the form of fixing all things such as wallpaper, floorboards, and heating, we have received a lot of help so that young people who have left 10 p.m. can live safely, clean, and warm in the type of housing they want.

◆ YTN Radio's Lee Sung Kyu's happy comma. Hold on. <There's no one like this.> Today, we are with Lee Ho-young, CEO of a non-profit organization called "Sipsi Ilbang," which provides safe housing and education for young people preparing for self-reliance. We're going to listen to a song at this point. What song would you recommend?

◇ Lee Ho-young: I would like to request a shower from Eclipse, the OST of the drama Sunjae Carrying.

◆ Do you have a story?

◇ Lee Ho-young: Two weeks ago, I went to the wedding of our first self-reliance preparation youth at ten o'clock. I went to the wedding and sang a song while clapping from behind. I think he was a relative of a young man preparing for self-reliance. Someone said it was his brother-in-law, but I don't remember exactly. But he sang this song and he sang it so well. So after that, I went to my wedding and kept listening to this song on my playlist on the way home. It was so nice and I was very proud of it. Because three years ago, four years ago, the self-reliance preparation youth with us, he graduated from college and got a job. I've seen it so far, but now that I'm getting married after announcing the wedding news, I feel like I've entered a really stable life, and it was such a meaningful gift for me that I applied for this song.

◆ Lee Seong-gyu: We heard Eclipse's shower recommended by Lee Ho-young, CEO of 10PM Ilbang. Lee Sung Kyu's happy comma. Hold on. <There's no one like this.> Today, we are with Lee Ho-young, CEO of 10 p.m., who is playing hard for young people preparing for self-reliance. But they use the word "baby friend." What's your friend's name?

◇ Lee Ho-young: I don't feel any affection for 'Leaving' because we refer to it as 'self-reliance preparation youth'. in this word itself So I was thinking if there was a more familiar word, but someone gave me an idea to call it "Bang Chin" for short.

◆ Lee Seong-gyu: Yes. You said you're going to select 10 people each, what's the method?

◇ Hoyoung Lee: First of all, we're promoting it. We do document screening. If you download the documents from our website, fill them out, and submit them, we will review the documents. We first review the documents mainly for those with the most unstable housing, and then select them through interviews. In fact, it's not this concept of selecting better people like job interviews, but we're conducting interviews to identify people who are really more urgent. So, we are making the final selection through an interview.

◆ Lee Seong-gyu: How much support do you apply? You said you'd provide deep support earlier, how much support do you give? How long?

◇Hoyoung Lee: The period is 1 year by default and can be extended by 2 years.

◆ Lee Seong-gyu: It's extended to 2 years, right?

◇ Hoyoung Lee: Yes. So it's one more year and up to two years.

◆ Is there a network that you can still contact among those who left?

◇ Hoyoung Lee: Yes. We basically have a group chat room. Then, there are many cases where you contact me personally. So, the wedding I mentioned earlier also goes. Not too long ago, we got together to celebrate the end of the year. So we went to a buffet together, ate, and sponsored beef to us. So I delivered beef one by one and did this.

◆ But if I do that, I think I'll come across some unfortunate stories.

◇ Hoyoung Lee: Yes. In fact, it happens often. But when I read the application, I feel very heavy. So we're going to read the application form, and it'd be great if we could figure out his situation and help him. There's one person who couldn't do that. That's actually the person I remember the most. When I first started the business, I looked at the application form, and the protection was terminated at the nursery. However, when the protection is terminated, the state provides a large amount of money between 10 million won and 20 million won, depending on the city and province. Then you're taking that money and getting a room or spending it where you need it. He had a real mother. There was a real mother, but she was living in a child protection facility. The protection was terminated and the mother contacted her, so the mother said, "Let's do it well together again. I was sorry, and how about we live again now? That's what he said. So of course, you want to live with one of your parents. That's how I decided to live and I got a room with that big money. You were looking for a room, and the next week, the real mother told the landlord, so you took out the deposit and just took a dive. So the person who applied to us was actually all of it, and it was a place like a resting place where you could live with your mother again, even though it was materially so. That space disappeared and my birth mother disappeared. I applied in a situation where I had no choice but to move around the streets again. Of course, since we are such an organization, I told you that I would help because it was established with that purpose. We have Kakao Talk. In the process of consulting through KakaoTalk, he suddenly said he wouldn't be able to contact me anymore. So I said, "Why not? I said, but he said the data is cut off because he couldn't pay for the communication fee. We're always responding to messages, so we said we'd get Wi-Fi or we'd send you the communication fee. But he didn't receive that message and now he's out of touch. In the end, I couldn't help you, but there was an application form for us, so I called the nursery where he lived and told the nursery staff, 'Can you contact him? I asked him, but he said he couldn't contact me for the same reason, so I couldn't find him in the end. Of course, you're living well now, but he's still the heavy person in my heart after four years. Although I haven't been able to meet him and help him, I think I should continue to work well for the self-reliance preparation youth represented by him.

◆ Lee Seong-gyu: I heard that sometimes we paid for the postpartum care center.

◇ Lee Ho-young: There's a young man who gave birth. I'm married now and I'm living well. In fact, childbirth means a lot to young people preparing for self-reliance. Because he gives birth to a child and he really wants to take responsibility for raising the child until the end and raise it well. But when you give birth, you get congratulated and give gifts. There are times when I feel a little empty and alone, so he was depressed when he gave birth and became pregnant and informed me of the news. He was a bit discouraged, so I kept saying congratulations, but I couldn't get excited. So I thought I would show you that I really congratulated you through actions rather than words, so we raised a fund. Postpartum care center costs are very expensive these days. In fact, I thought it was difficult to pay for the postpartum care center, so we paid for it directly to the postpartum care center so that you could rest comfortably after giving birth. In fact, parents usually teach you how to take care of your child, but these days, the postpartum care center can also teach you. So I thought that those parts would be a great help to young people preparing for self-reliance, so I did that and my child is still growing well.

◆ Lee Seong-gyu: I heard your mother-in-law applied for it at that time.

◇ Hoyoung Lee: Yes. Actually, I asked my mother-in-law for raising a fund for postpartum care center expenses. I'm married, but I don't have children yet, but I actually thought of many things. Actually, I'm going to have a child someday, but is it really meaningful to raise my child well? When the self-reliance preparation youth I see around us gave birth to a child, I thought it was important to allow him to be blessed the same and start in the same environment, but I think my mother-in-law felt the same way. So my mother-in-law willingly supported the money, and she is providing a lot of other support.

◆ Lee Seong-gyu: But you're in your 30s right now. She's in her 30s who got married. She's also beholden to her mother-in-law.

◇ [Lee Hoyoung] Yes, that's right.

◆ Lee Seong-gyu: I think Lee Ho-young in his 30s must have some concerns.

◇ Hoyoung Lee: Yes. Actually, I couldn't make money through ten o'clock, so I had a lot of worries before I got married. I was already working on this job, and then I got married. After I got married, of course, my wife made money as a family member, but I thought I would have to make money, and I couldn't open the hands of my parents or adults forever. So when I first started "10:00" broadcast, I told you that I wasted about a year. without getting any money In the end, I found out that I formed an organization called Ten o'clock One Way, and there's a title of representative, but I'm unemployed. So I was like, 'Am I unemployed? ’ So I just went through a year and started doing something else before I met my BC card. We created another company that measures and evaluates the social value of other non-profit organizations and corporate social contribution projects. I started with a professor from my alma mater, and at first, I started with a very small project, but now I'm working there as a full-time employee, and in a way, I started at the same time as ten o'clock, and it's running the same way. I'm making a major income there right now. In ten o'clock, I'm doing things that I've always dreamed of doing. So in a way, I'm in a situation where I'm doing two jobs, and one side makes money and the other side does my job. In this way, my life is being coordinated with the life of human Lee Ho-young.

◆ Lee Seong-gyu: <There's no one like this.> I was with Lee Ho-young, the head of the group Sibang, who is working to provide safe housing for young people preparing for self-reliance and prepare for the future. Thank you for the nice words.

◇ Hoyoung Lee: Yes, thank you.

◆ Lee Seong-gyu: <There's no one like this.>You can listen to it again through the YTN radio website and YouTube.