President Yoon and Han Dong-hoon will meet tomorrow...a tipping point in the pollack industry

■ Host: Lee Ha-rin Anchor
■ Starring: Choi Chang-ryul, Yongin University Special Professor, Park Sang-gyu, current affairs critic

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[Anchor]
Myung Tae-kyun, the person suspected of intervening in the nomination of Kim Gun-hee, has been shaking the political price for nearly two months. President Yoon and Han Dong-hoon, representative of People's Power, are expected to meet tomorrow, and it is expected to be a watershed moment in the situation to see if a breakthrough in the crisis can be found. Let's point out with Choi Chang-ryul, a special professor at Yongin University, and Park Sang-gyu, a current affairs critic. Welcome, two of you. Myung Tae-kyun is revealing things from all directions. In order to emphasize the trust of First Lady Kim Gun-hee, he released "Controversial Brother Kakaotalk," and this time, he gave an interview showing off his friendship with President Yoon. I didn't show the message, but I interviewed President Yoon that he received a lot of so-called Cherry Ttabong. Myung, you're doing it to get something. What's your intention?

[Park Sang-gyu] It was even called Dr.
That's what President Yoon or First Lady Kim Gun-hee called Dr. Myung. It's the captain. So with a forward-thinking Salami style, and I personally continue to attack the battlefield. But you're putting up an ad balloon and smoking a lot of various smoke, but you're not giving evidence, as you said. Something that's appropriate for that was the content of this conversation, or something that really showed you the cherry ttabong. Without providing such conclusive evidence, they continue to amplify the smoke.


The whole mountain is trying to cover it with a cloud of pollack bacteria, but first of all, the public is confused about the fact that the actual truth has not been found, and the ruling party and the opposition party only politically. The director of the National Assembly is floundering in the mud of pollack bacteria. So people are feeling extremely tired. That's what I think, so the prosecution is investigating this quickly. Why don't you quickly summon him for violating the Political Fund Act to clarify suspicions and provide reasonable evidence for it? I think this suspicion is also growing.

[Anchor]
When I saw an interview with a broadcaster yesterday, I often had public conversations. I had a lot of public conversations with President Yoon and his wife, but I couldn't even imagine the contents. Is there a real thing?

[Choi Chang Ryul]
That story is completely intimidating. It's intimidation or intimidation. Public content and private content are on a completely different level, but there are so many stories about this right now that the prosecution should analyze more than 4,000 files for investigation, doesn't the Changwon District Prosecutors' Office? Since it's in this situation, the situation itself is that Korea is exposed for how long. With every word of that, the ruling camp is on high alert right now, especially in the case of the presidential office. In a way, it seems to be almost unprotected.

It's a helpless situation. Every single remark of a particular individual is broadcasted live through public opinion. I'm curious about what media we'll be talking about tomorrow. It's already been over a month since this part started in mid-September. It's been all about pollack for more than a month. Actually, I think there will be a lot of things before the election. The presidential election and the general election. I think there are quite a few people who are running for the general election and there are quite a few political brokers and political commentators who have entered the so-called political arena. I'm looking at it, but it won't be all a problem. Now that all this is being said, it is coming down to the question of how it is related to the president and his wife.

I don't know if I'll be talking about this later, but until when will I be dragged around by Myung Taekyun? It's a situation where it's swayed, and I think it's the same for First Lady Kim Gun-hee and President Yoon anyway. I'm sure there's a text message I shared with Myung Taekyun. According to Myung Tae-kyun's claim, there are 2,000. I think most of them don't mean much when it comes to 2,000. However, from Myung Tae-kyun's point of view, some of them seem to have decided that if this is disclosed, the passport will be very difficult.

We can't guess what it is. I can't tell the president's office to disclose those parts preemptively.I think Ma needs to come out with something. Why are you being dragged around by someone like that? And that's actually intimidation, intimidation of the president. Last time, I talked about resignation and impeachment, but I was joking, and I collected it again. Is this a joke you can imagine? This was a joke when you talked about the power of the incumbent president and the resignation and impeachment? The people keep thinking, "Isn't there anything that's really gutted or something?" The presidential office needs to prove this is nothing.

[Anchor]
As you said, the political community is helpless, but in fact, Myung met with whom, he was close to whom, this is not directly related to legal issues, and the prosecution is investigating Myung's alleged violation of the Political Fund Act. Suspicion of illegal procurement of polling expenses, the core of the violation of the Political Fund Act, denied that this was not him. He denied that he didn't do it, but it's going out graphically now. How did you see this part?

[Park Sang Kyu]
So, Myung Tae-kyun didn't do it himself, but the head of the research institute went out and wrote and borrowed an IOU. If you do that, there seems to be no problem. But what are you talking about from the research institute? It is true that the head of the research institute went, but he was instructed to go under the direction of Myung Tae-kyun. So it's just an agent, but in this way, this is what needs to be investigated. As Professor Choi Chang-ryul said earlier, this was the beginning of the suspicion. At a time when he had to investigate into allegations of political fund law, he was arrested, so he was involved in everything he could do with all the people in the ruling camp, especially VIPs of the ruling camp called the presidential couple, Mayor Oh Se-hoon, Daegu Mayor Hong Joon Pyo, and then-CEO Lee Joon-seok. Aren't you making muddy water?

So this part is the part that I sing quickly. In particular, more than 93 million won was given to lawmaker Kim Young-sun. You just have to lend 63 million won at a time and investigate these parts in detail. So, Myung is not at the stage where he can make any political revelations. First of all, you have to explain yourself about the alleged violation of the Political Fund Act. I didn't just do it, I lent it and the lab did it. The fact that he is trying to make some political deal with suspicions about himself by delaying it like this, and anyone can see it, is being played into the vulgar language of Myung's argument. I think this is a real problem.

[Anchor]
So, he interpreted it as a revelation war to cover up his own judicial risks. There are also reports that Myung was listed as a candidate for Moon Jae In during the 19th presidential election. Also, as you said, mentioning the names of ruling party politicians continues. He said that there were more than 20 politicians he had traded, ate free meals, and now he is even complaining about side dishes. How much should I believe?

[Choi Chang Ryul]
But people who claim that Myung Tae-kyun traded, I think this can be common in politics. There are a lot of people who come to the election and talk about their strategies and say, "I have a few votes." Even if it's not a presidential election like this, there's everything. I do, but that's not the point right now. There are a lot of reports about Myung Tae-kyun, but the issues related to Myung Tae-kyun are very distracting. Most importantly, the security numbers were leaked to the president-elect during the presidential election. In addition, was the price paid or not for this part? It's important to investigate this part, too. This is a violation of the Political Fund Act.

Myung Tae-kyun's investigation is that he received money from Representative Kim Young-sun. Other than this, I think we need to investigate some things related to the polls. And I'd like to summon them right away. I'm a person under investigation for the Political Fund Act anyway, but I haven't summoned him yet. So, the police and the prosecution now seem to be trying to summon a sufficient plot for the law enforcement authorities, but there are a lot of things right now. And Kang, the accounting manager of former lawmaker Kim Young-sun, claims that he provided 360 million won worth of opinion polls to the president and his wife during the election and won the nomination of former lawmaker Kim Young-sun in return. Aren't you going to appear at the National Assembly tomorrow as a witness? He said he was coming out.

Those are the most important things. These are key suspicions. Everything else needs to be put aside a little bit of distraction. Could there be something wrong with talking on the phone or texting with Rep. Oh Se-hoon and the mayor of Hong Joon Pyo? Unless the call is very wrong. I'm distracted because it keeps being reported in the media. So, the prosecution or police should quickly summon and investigate the person concerned, and if there is anything inappropriate with the presidential couple or the presidential office, the presidential office should open it first, ask the public for understanding and apologize if there is anything wrong. How long is this really being dragged around by a particular individual? I think a political broker is also a good expression. Does this make sense?

[Anchor]
The term broker is also a good expression.

[Choi Chang-ryul]
I think that's a good expression.

[Anchor]
You said that, but as you said, unverified suspicions arise, fatigue is increasing. We'll talk about the controversial brother's Kakao Talk. Myung Tae-kyun kept changing his words about who he is, but if you look at the most recent media interviews, including our YTN, the brother mentioned in the Kakao Talk is not the president, but his brother. At first, I said that what I said as if I were the president was trying to hurt the media. Why are you mocking the political community and the media like this?

[Park Sang Kyu]
You can say that he was trying to maximize his influence. As Myung Tae-kyun became the news, leading media outlets lined up for Myung Tae-kyun. Let's have an interview because we'll give you enough time for the show. Actually, it may not be like this, but it's true that it was shown. So, as it was on the page and as it was aired, all the people must be aware of that. There were a lot of shocking things. Then the presidential office did not respond to this at first.

You might think it's not worth answering. I don't think it's appropriate to respond to those things one by one. When Myung Taekyun suddenly revealed that he's an oppa, there was a one-point response to this. That was a big turning point for me to ignite this situation in a way. So whether it's good or bad. So this became a problem. Anyone can tell who the context is, no, no. So, it was good to explain it like that because the people's suspicions keep growing, but Myung Tae-kyun himself was watching it as if he was enjoying it from up there, and that was Kim, and his name came out.

His name. I was referring to my brother. But is he my brother? After that, the story of his brother became a topic of conversation for a while at dinner and lunch in all kinds of places. This is scary. So since the suspicion was rolling like a snowball, I blamed the media again this time. It's kind of insulting to say that I'm playing with you earlier. How can it be done like this?

[Anchor]
He said that he was trying to show off his friendship with the woman, but he didn't know that the word oppa would be controversial.

[Park Sang Kyu]
How can that be? What kind of impact will it have if such an experienced political broker or a person with such influence on the political world goes out? And there's a message from the past that you said you're an oppa. It's an analogy. Hasn't the ruling party's female spokesperson been rumored to have called her husband her brother again recently? In short, it's right for Jungkook to say that only his own brother is an older brother in Korea, but it's weird that he's an aunt and an older brother. There's a situation where comedy is happening. So it's a pity. So this is not the essence. As Professor Choi said earlier, I hope that the people will no longer be buried in this news of pollack bacteria by focusing on the nature of the violation of the Political Fund Act.

[Anchor]
He said he should focus on the essence, but Kim Young-sun's accounting manager will appear as a witness at the National Assembly Judiciary Committee's parliamentary inspection tomorrow. On the 25th, Myung was also called as a witness, so can Myung go out as a witness?

[Choi Chang Ryul]
It won't come out. I don't think it's going to come out. There are a lot of things that are being said right now. It's a suspicion that she used her influence during the 2022 by-election and intervened in the nomination of First Lady Kim Gun-hee. This was actually very big. And after that, I had a text with a politician and talked about it, so I couldn't help but come out and talk about it. If it comes out through the media, it becomes a report. The board itself is completely dizzy.

A loach has become cloudy, so I think this will continue to talk about it for a while. Until Myung Tae-kyun became quiet. So I'll do the investigation. And I think the ruling party should preemptively do this on its own, such as allegations of intervention in nominations. In any case, the public recognized that Myung Tae-kyun was very problematic, but strangely, they continued to trust what he said.

That's how many politicians are being talked about, and all of these politicians are leading politicians. It's not just some first-term, second-term lawmakers. A lot of so-called big names are being discussed. And they're responding. Then again, he made a very high-level remark, and then he said that he was his brother, but he said that he was his brother. I also make comments like this. Well, this is a completely different story for me.In 1983, Jang Young-ja was an economic offender in Korea.

Do you remember that? during the Chun Doo-hwan administration I'm prepared for that. This is beyond imagination, but the president and the ruling party leader will meet tomorrow. When we were having a meeting, the two of you said it was an interview. It's not even a solitary cell. I think it's right to talk about it there during the interview. Let's avoid all these things. This is what's disturbing Korea the most right now. Because it's confusing and disturbing, I think we need to solve the problem quickly with the presidential power.

[Anchor]
Let's talk about the interview in a moment. Among the big names mentioned, Kim Jong-in, former chairman of the emergency committee, said this. As for Kim Gun-hee, she seems to think that she can enjoy power because she has contributed to the election of the president herself. I put out this analysis. How did you see it?

[Park Sang Kyu]
Kim Jong-in, former chairman of the state affairs commission, is almost every day when Myung Tae-kyun does it at 6 a.m. Isn't it as soon as you wake up at 6 a.m.? You're an old man, so you probably don't even sleep in the morning. As a result, they said they had a conversation as if they were briefing in the morning. Former Chairman Kim Jong-in is one of the key people involved in the incident. Therefore, there are a lot of things to be disappointed about when Kim Jong-in, the former chairman of the committee, broke up with President Yoon when he was a presidential candidate. Moreover, Lee Joon-seok, the leader of the New Reform Party, his political suzerain, is not free from this case and the Myung Tae-kyun case.

As a result, I think that they are dividing the suspicions between themselves and CEO Lee Joon-seok in that way. Now, he is creating new words such as the theory of the president and Kim's shared power, which has not been confirmed, and if so, I think the political elder should provide some evidence about him. You are saying things that are not very helpful in solving this political situation and solving the Lee Myung-tae-kyun situation with such an ambiguous way of speaking. It's better to clear up your suspicions first. That's what I think.

[Anchor]
As an elder, he said it was an inappropriate analysis. Amid these various suspicions and controversies, President Yoon and Representative Han Dong-hoon will meet tomorrow. Earlier, CEO Han Dong-hoon demanded three things, including Mrs. Kim's restraint from making public moves. Let's talk about it while looking at the graphic. Please show us. These are the three demands that representative Han Dong-hoon demanded from the presidential office. Presidential personnel reform suspension of women's activities cooperation in resolving suspicions These are the three. Will it pay off? Can we talk about this at tomorrow's interview?

[Choi Chang Ryul]
I'm sure they'll say that. If you don't say that, why would you meet me? It's going to come out. It would come out, but in addition to the issue of personnel reform, Kim Gun-hee should stop her activities and cooperate in resolving suspicions. All three of these are related to Kim Gun-hee. Don't you think so?

[Anchor]
The range is very wide.

[Choi Chang Ryul]
Personnel reform That's a personnel reform related to First Lady Kim Gun-hee. In general, I'm not talking about other secretaries, but I'm not saying to change the chief of staff or to change the senior secretary for political affairs, but to reform the part that is pointed out as Kim Gun-hee's so-called secret line. That's related to Mrs. Kim Gun-hee, too. Then, the prosecution did not indict the Deutsche Motors stock price manipulation case.

Perhaps the president's office is likely to say that. First of all, that is not a matter to be involved in the Presidential Office. Of course. It's what the prosecution does. So I think that the question has been resolved. because of the indictment In addition, the controversy over luxury bags was not prosecuted. Next, I think there will be a positive comment about the suspension of female activities. The least protocol or diplomatic, if not interruption, cannot be avoided.

That's something you can do. I have to do it. I think there will be positive things to say about that part just because I'm going to do that. The presidential office's position was previously in that part of the presidential office's personnel reform. There isn't. I said that there is no secret line related to Kim Gun-hee, so I think those three will not meet the level of requirements that Han Dong-hoon talked about. I think one will be like this. So everyone says the result of tomorrow's interview is a watershed moment for Jungkook. Because it's so complicated.

But anyway, it is undeniable that First Lady Kim Gun-hee is at the core of the suspicion. All three of those are related to Mrs. Kim. However, anyway, I think it would be difficult for us to come up with a forward-looking position that is so-called innovation.

[Park Sang-gyu]
Personally, I purposely used the expression, "If I had a 4:30 interview tomorrow." I didn't use the expression "single room" at all. In the sense of the Korean dictionary, an interview means that the upper person meets the lower person. It's the expression of the media that describes it as chadam. I'm not just going to drink water, so I'll have about a cup of tea. And one thing to pay attention to is the presence of Chief of Staff Jeong Jin-seok. Representative Han said that the attendance is not important, but the attendance is important. Because it's a one-on-one or two-on-one format. Director Jeong Jin-seok is a fact checker, or something else will come out later. But politically, it's lowering the weight.

The president's office is. Importantly, the halfway point of President Yoon's term is just around the corner on Nov. 10. However, the explosive power of this meeting is that from the perspective of the third more strengthened passport proposed, from the perspective of the passport, which contains six more toxic provisions. The Kim Gun-hee Special Prosecutor Act was reissued. I blocked it with 104 votes last time. However, the departure of four votes at that time was also a tense view for both the ruling and opposition parties. If this ends with an empty-handed meeting. In particular, some of those empty hands may be empty hands that are close to no income. I just met him without being completely empty-handed, but I decided to try. I listened to Han well.

If it ends at this level, representative Han will follow the party's theory. If we don't draw a clear line on the Kim Gun-hee independent counsel law, we will respond by leaving it to lawmakers' self-voting. If it comes out like this, Jungkook gets out of control. So I don't think that's going to happen. Something has to come out. So, even if we don't confirm the second annex or the special inspector's office, shouldn't we have a response or response that is equivalent to the suspension of the woman's activities? This is not to say that, but that much should go into the gift bag.

There is room for interpretation whether this is a gift package or a product of agreement. The President's Office allows it to be done by the President rather than by the form of an agreement. I personally think this is how it works. On top of that, some breakthrough in medical reform can come up with a point of contact. Whether the outcome of tomorrow's meeting is empty-handed or close to having little income can be a dynamite button for the political situation in the future.

[Anchor]
But the installation of the second annex has already been announced. What would be different if a second annex was installed?

[Park Sang Kyu]
There's a perception that you shouldn't have that much. So something more progressive should be made, but as you said earlier, summit diplomacy is scheduled in South America in November. We have APEC and we have G20. The president can't go here alone. Therefore, it's not that bad, but some kind of apology and practical measures that follow. Shouldn't a package like this come out? I think that Jungkook's eyes are focused on tomorrow at 4:30 p.m.

[Anchor]
Tomorrow at 4:30 p.m. Let's see the results of the meeting between President Yoon and Han Dong-hoon, representative of People's Power. We'll look at the next topic. Moon Da-hye, the daughter of former President Moon Jae In. For the first time in 13 days since he was booked for drunk driving yesterday. But this time, even allegations of illegal lodging businesses have emerged. What is it about?

[Choi Chang Ryul]
There's a suspicion of preferential hiring. In the process of investigating former President Moon's alleged preferential hiring of his former son-in-law Seo, he bought a detached house on Jeju Island. To Father Song, I was quite close to Roh Moo Hyun and former President Moon Jae In. As it is known, it came out in the process of confiscating and searching that part. That's why Jeju City requested an investigation. If you want to do a lodging business, you need to register and report it. I'll have to report it. He didn't report it. I'm saying that I didn't register. Also, Jeju City is saying that it cannot be concluded, so there is nothing more to come out than that because it is an investigation.

[Anchor]
Let's wait and see the results of the police investigation. As mentioned earlier, Moon Da-hye appeared 13 days after the drunk driving accident. Let's look at the screen first and continue with our answer. I'm sorry. I went in after talking briefly like this, but what's controversial now is the controversy over the umbrella protocol that the lawyer held the umbrella. How did you see it?

[Park Sang Kyu]
I think I'm overreacting, but to really apologize and show that. Of course, there is a long apology issued in advance in writing, so if you look at the contents, the contents are quite confusing. But rather than that, the whole nation is watching, and I know that Yongsan Police Station has been in and out, but there is no back door and no underground door to enter. So I have no choice but to go in there. I had no choice but to go in. The police just come in. That's why I went in.

You didn't want to go through that door. But what if he had said in his own mouth that he had apologized more honestly? But I'm just sorry for being short. I'm sorry. As you saw for a short time, I did that and went in right away. The umbrella is now down, but I can support it. It's not because the lawyer is the president's daughter, but because he is his client, he can support the umbrella, but that's the protocol. I can just do that from the side. I think that's too hypersensitive, but what I'm sorry about is that the person in the case who made the whole country noisy went in like that and expressed his position too simply. One more regrettable thing is that former President Moon Jae In makes his position before and after this attendance. It is said that you made a long position on the Pyeongsan Bookstore paid site, but being too silent is not good to see.

[Anchor]
You said you could put an umbrella over you, but what is controversial is that former President Moon Jae In mentioned the umbrella protocol before.

[Choi Chang Ryul]
As critic Park Sang-gyu said, the media is overreacting about the umbrella. It's going to be hectic. You're not even a politician right now, and the media is coming out on the bad side these days. But I'm out of my mind after such a shameful thing. He supported me because it was raining, and I don't think he could afford to hold it with his own hands. It's not even some kind of politician. People say that if you are a politician, it's a controversy over protocol, it's an emperor's investigation, but I don't think you're talking about supporting that umbrella. There's so much to talk about. Do you even talk about me?

[Anchor]
Both of you analyzed that you can hold an umbrella. That's all for today's Jungkook news. I was with Choi Chang-ryul, a special professor at Yongin University, and Park Sang-gyu, a current affairs critic. Thank you.