There's a factional conflict over "feeling privileged"...Yoon's approval rating is at a 20% low

■ Host: anchor Cho Jin-hyuk, anchor Han Yeon-hee
■ Starring: Kang Sung-pil, vice chairman of the Minjoo Party of Korea's Public Communication Committee, lawyer Seo Jeong-wook

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[Anchor]
The internal feud within the ruling camp continues over the appointment of a special inspector promoted by CEO Han Dong-hoon.

In the midst of this, a poll showed that the president's approval rating hit another low. Attention is focusing on how it will affect the general meeting, and we will organize political issues with lawyer Seo Jeong-wook and vice chairman of the Democratic Party of Korea's National Communication Committee Kang Sung-pil. Please come in.

In the case of Han Dong-hoon, he expressed his intention to appoint a special inspector without the opposition party's recommendation for directors of the North Korean Human Rights Foundation, saying, "We have never decided on conditional implementation as a party platform." You look like you're trying to win. How do you analyze the background?

[Jungwook Seo]
I also think CEO Han Dong-hoon's proposal is correct. It's because the president's pledge is to receive it. The president kept telling me to recommend it again this time. Rather, the National Assembly, which was not recommended by the National Assembly, committed dereliction of duty. Of course, the North Korean Human Rights Foundation is important, and the Democratic Party should reflect on itself for eight years. I have to recommend it. However, it's right to recommend it without connection. Only then can the Special Prosecutor's Law of Kim Gun-hee be defended. Because there is a special inspector or something like that, the public opinion of the special prosecutor law can be diluted. And most of all, I didn't do this for five years during the Moon Jae In regime. If there was such a thing, would there have been all kinds of suspicions about Moon Da-hye? While criticizing the Moon Jae In government's recommendation, we don't either. If you do this, you'll end up with me. I think floor leader Choo Kyung-ho will pass in harmony with representative Han Dong-hoon.

[Anchor]
You said that the special prosecution should be pursued separately, but that means that it will serve as a justification for the defense of the special prosecution. How did you hear this?

[Kang Sungpil]
That's right. I think it's good to appoint a special inspector in order to prevent the risks of the regime. In any case, representative Han Dong-hoon asked for three conditions related to Kim Gun-hee in a meeting with the president on the 21st, but he was rejected severely. Therefore, I think Han Dong-hoon took out the card of the special inspector as a solution, but what we, the Democratic Party of Korea, want to clearly say is that the establishment of a special inspector or a second annex is a preventive condition. It is not possible to cover up allegations or mistakes that have occurred in the past. This is the position that only what happened in the past can be solved by a special prosecutor.

[Anchor]
It can only be solved by a special prosecutor. You said that appointing a special inspector does not mean that it is a justification for defense. I'll ask you this question because I think lawyer Seo knows this well. Since the conflict between representative Han Dong-hoon and floor leader Choo Kyung-ho was expressed, there have been reports that close lawmakers are now asking floor leader Choo to speak their true intentions in the messenger chat room. How do you know the atmosphere right now?

[Jungwook Seo]
Probably, from the floor leader Choo Kyung-ho's point of view, he can raise the issue of the procedure. This is because all of these should be discussed first at the general meeting of the lawmakers, then the party leader should finally make a presentation through the Supreme Council, but first, the party leader does not postpone it, but the human rights foundation. I'll take it right away, there's a procedural problem because I did it to the media first. I think we will make a sufficient compromise on the final recommended problem. If you take this as a vote, you'll self-destruct. Why would pro-Yoon lawmakers oppose this when the president told them to keep recommending that they continue to receive it? That doesn't make sense. However, in the process, there was a question that the representative Han Dong-hoon violated the floor leader's authority too much.

[Anchor]
In the case of Rep. Kim Ki-hyun, who was also a pro-Yoon leader and a former party leader, he criticized it as such, but can it be interpreted as saying that the close and pro-Yoon conflict is coming to the surface?

[Kang Sungpil]
It feels like the close and the pro-Yoon-gye have turned into an emotional fight, not a matter of rational discussion. The reason why both sides can only understand this position from a relative point of view is that there were misunderstandings that representative Han Dong-hoon was neglected in various aspects during the meeting on the 21st, but that is not a misunderstanding. Isn't it that the president had dinner with floor leader Choo Kyung-ho after the meeting with representative Han Dong-hoon? That's why the closeness community is bound to be quite angry. In the pro-yoon world, as lawyer Seo Jeong-wook said, the issue of the special inspector brought up by representative Han Dong-hoon should be discussed and coordinated behind the scenes with the floor leader and then disclosed, but the pro-yoon world cannot back down because it is unilaterally pushing for it. So this is the floor leader's authority, don't worry, this emotional confrontation is showing the emotional confrontation between the pro-yoon and the close circle.

[Anchor]
If I ask you a question, lawyer Seo Jeong-wook said that if you go from the general meeting to the vote, you will self-destruct. How many chances do you really think the vote will be?

[Kang Sungpil]
I think we have no choice but to go to a vote. The reason is that I know that if we all vote on it, it will have a negative impact on everyone. However, since politics is also done by people, emotions are bound to be carried, and since both pro-yoon and close friends are in a position where they cannot retreat, shouldn't they be resolved by voting if there is a conflict of opinion? But this vote is simply the same as asking a child to say, "I like my mom, I like my dad." But even if my mom likes it, can I abandon my dad? That's why the representative of the ruling party and the president are called the community of destiny, and the fact that these two know this but can't solve this seems to be because they have a deep emotional problem.

[Anchor]
I heard that the timing of the general meeting will be an issue. What do you think?

[Jungwook Seo]
Han Dong-hoon said, "Let's do it as soon as possible. I'm just saying let's do it early next week. Then, floor leader Choo Kyung-ho will officially be around next week after the audit is over, and there is a period like this. It's not going to be a vote match. Does it make sense that pro-Yoon lawmakers oppose it when it is clear that President Yoon Suk Yeol's intention is clear, but the National Assembly did not recommend it because of dereliction of duty? Isn't Chin Yoon's Yoon Suk Yeol? Why do pro-Yoon lawmakers oppose the president's proposal? That's not it. I'm unanimously recommending it while clapping, but what I'm worried about is that the Democratic Party of Korea will act like a monkey. From the Democratic Party's point of view, the public opinion of the special prosecutor will be diluted, so they should push for the special prosecutor, but if the special inspector becomes an issue, it will be negative for the Democratic Party and the fact that they did not do the special inspector for five years under the Moon Jae In administration will be highlighted, right? And if you recommend three people, the president appoints them. But I don't think the Democratic Party will be able to appoint all three of us. If there is at least a bargaining group, wouldn't one person recommend the power of the people? Then I think the president can appoint a reasonable person.

[Anchor]
The Democratic Party expressed its position that it could oppose it, what do you think?

[Kang Sungpil]
Whether or not our Democratic Party opposes it remains to be seen. But the important point is that when a special inspector is appointed, the National Assembly does it. This requires the person recommended by the opposition to be appointed as the special inspector. To put it simply, if you look at the ruling party and the presidential office, the whole nation knows that the people around the president are not being able to criticize the president at all. That's why the special inspector recommended by the opposition party can conduct proper inspections when the special inspector recommended by the opposition party goes, and the fact that the ruling party recommended it will only be able to act as a scarecrow in the end if a member of the ruling party goes to the special inspector. I believe so.

[Anchor]
As there is a possibility of a vote and there is an analysis that it is going to be a three-way race, I want to ask both of you this question, but the number of lawmakers in the middle of the close and pro-Yoon-gye districts is too different depending on the report. First of all, how many people do you think the lawyer is close and close?

[Jungwook Seo]
As far as I know, almost everyone wants the success of the Yoon Suk Yeol regime, so it can be all pro-yoon in a broad sense. Therefore, it's true to divide it like this, but in general, Han Dong-hoon's close circle usually comes to dinner. They can be classified as 20 to 21 to 22 people. Then, I think there are about 40 more pro-Yoon-gye like Kwon Sung-dong and Kim Ki-hyun in the past, but I think there are a little more people than close ones. However, this classification does not mean much. The lawmakers I've met know better than anyone that if the close Yoon Suk Yeol government fails and collapses, they have no future. Therefore, comprehensively, they are all pro-Yoon-gye, but if I have to classify them, I see them as 20, 40 people.

[Anchor]
Then, how many people do you think are in the Democratic Party?

[Kang Sungpil]
In my opinion, there are various observations of 20 to 40 and 30 to 50 anyway, but in fact, how do we all know how the lawmakers feel? But I would side with President Yoon Suk Yeol if I think people in the neutral zone would vote. Because I told you earlier, how can I throw my dad away when I like my mom or dad? And since the president's term is two and a half years away, if the president's power is taken out, the ruling party could collapse. Also, those in the neutral zone do not have confidence in CEO Han Dong-hoon yet. So, it is true that Han Dong-hoon is the party leader now and a strong presidential candidate in the ruling party, but I'm not sure whether he will continue to be well-maintained and become a presidential candidate, so I predict that those in the neutral zone will side with President Yoon Suk Yeol.

[Anchor]
You said earlier that you have two and a half years left in your term, but in the meantime, the president's approval rating has hit another low. This is a Gallup poll released yesterday. 20% positive and 70% negative. That's what it said. According to the reason for the negative evaluation, Kim Gun-hee was counted as the number one. As a result of yesterday's investigation, how do you interpret it?

[Jungwook Seo]
As the presidential office also announced, it is necessary to recognize public opinion a little seriously and make efforts such as change or reform. Most importantly, the issue of First Lady Kim Gun-hee can strategically refrain from external activities, so please do it together when you are on a trip that is essential. What do you still do now? Even the president explained it now. Therefore, I don't think this problem is a big problem, Mrs. Kim Gun-hee. But what's really important is that it's a matter of living. This is the most serious. When I go to my regular restaurants for 10 years now, there are people who say there has never been a more difficult time than now. Self-employment is really difficult even for people who have never made a deficit. In this situation, the approval rating can't come out well. The people make their lives the sky. But the situation is difficult again. The important thing is that there needs to be a storehouse in the country to be popular with the storehouse. But during the Moon Jae In regime, they made debts, looted future generations, and scattered them all. How hard must it be for the president because he inherited the empty barn after spraying it all? The people also need to understand that. However, since the presidential office is also the halfway point of his term, he thinks that it needs to reflect deeply on why his approval rating is like this, and that great innovation and representation are needed.

[Anchor]
You're saying that it's because of the tough game. How do you think the Democratic Party is analyzing it?

[Kang Sungpil]
Even if you look at many countries abroad, the number one negative evaluation of leaders is people's livelihood and economy. Even if we look at the U.S. presidential election now, we see the economy as the most important requirement for voters in evaluating the president. However, according to this poll and the Jeonju poll, the most notable point is that Kim Gun-hee is the number one negative requirement for the president. First lady Kim Gun-hee rose 8% in the fourth week of September and rose sharply to 14% in the first week of October, and this time increased by 1 percentage point to 15%. So I don't think any country in the world has ever had a spouse ranked first due to negative requirements for a leader. In this regard, the presidential office should show that all the risks of Kim Gun-hee have been resolved, so they should not close their eyes and solve them proudly. And the second is that the core supporters of the people's power are breaking away. So 26% in TK and 27% in Bhuanggyeong. To put it simply, the President should come up with a different basis for changing the state of affairs, as all those who are engaged in economic activities in the Republic of Korea have negative perceptions of the Yoon Suk Yeol government.

[Anchor]
I'll ask you the next question. Now, First Lady Kim Gun-hee appeared in 13 days, and it was a state visit to Korea by the Polish president and his wife. The first lady meeting was held behind closed doors here. Regarding this, Rep. Kwon Sung-dong analyzed that it is actually the same as President Yoon Suk Yeol's acceptance of Kim's request to stop her activities. How did you hear it, lawyer?

[Jungwook Seo]
I don't think there's any reason to keep the first lady meeting private. There is no political party in diplomacy, an essential diplomatic event like this. All political strife should stop at international events. I need something like this, but since there are so many criticisms, I think it's private. But I think it's right to reveal it. Kim Gun-hee's issue ranked first in the opinion poll for denial, but I don't think it can be entirely attributed to Kim Gun-hee. Because the Democratic Party of Korea, the Cho Kuk Innovation Party, and the opposition parties continue to persistently bite Kim Gun-hee in witch hunt ceremonies. It's nothing about stock price manipulation 15 years ago, but you've been talking about what the prosecution judged according to the law, and you've been talking about it for a year with a pouch thrown in. Public opinion can move temporarily as some liberal right-wing conservatives are attacking Kim Gun-hee with such persistent malicious fake news. In the past, the president of Park Geun Hye was also attacked by Choi Seo-won, by fake news. That's why your approval rating dropped to 5%. What I'm saying is that Mrs. Kim Gun-hee needs to refrain, but what's not is that she has to fight strongly, but I think the problem is to be confused by public opinion.

[Anchor]
What do you think about this?

[Kang Sungpil]
It's a pity that the ruling party and the opposition party seem to have different perceptions. However, in a recent meeting on the 21st, the three conditions that the ruling party's representative, Han Dong-hoon, demanded from the president and the last of those three conditions were to cooperate in finding the truth. So I won't tell you any more about the controversy related to Mrs. Kim Gun-hee, but in this case anyway, solving this is the biggest thing. In fact, the issue of facts is important, but more importantly, the perception of the people is more important. That's why they say what politics shows is also important. So, when the Polish president and his wife came this time, I think it's right for Mrs. Kim Gun-hee to join me. I'm not saying that the Democratic Party of Korea shouldn't even do that. However, in the case of Kim Hye-kyung, the leader of the opposition party, Lee Jae-myung's spouse, it is 104,000 won for food and 70,000 won excluding her own food, but she was investigated anyway, and she was indicted for being suspicious, and the prosecution asked for 3 million won this time. So, I hope the public will deeply accept that the results came from the polls that the prosecution is asking about the spouse of the opposition leader and the spouse of the president, and whether this administration is being fair.

[Anchor]
However, one of the things that stands out in this Gallup survey is that the approval rating of the people's power has risen by 2 percentage points in a week. tied with the Democratic Party. There are many analyses that say they analyze it with the Han Dong-hoon effect, but what did you think?

[Jungwook Seo]
I think it's two effects. Han Dong-hoon effect and Lee Jae-myung's adverse effect. There's CEO Lee Jae-myung. These two things are that representative Han Dong-hoon shows extreme conflict with President Yoon. This could be a division, but in a way, there are also positive aspects. What it means is that Japan's Liberal Democratic Party has been in power for a long time, with various factions checking and fighting, continuing to bring about the effect of regime change. So, some conservatives criticize President Yoon. There are people who don't go anywhere else and still believe in CEO Han Dong-hoon's future power. Therefore, Han Dong-hoon's representative effect is also somewhat effective. We have no choice but to evaluate it like this, and the most important thing is Lee Jae-myung's adverse effect. How can it make sense that the Democratic Party of Korea is the same as the people's power when the president's approval rating is falling like this? This is the public sentiment. Please don't put it in the mouth of the Democratic Party of Korea. That's the seat of the tiger smoking days. Currently, the public sentiment of the Democratic Party is also being judged sternly by the people. The Democratic Party of Korea is also representative Lee Jae-myung's one-way system. This is the public opinion. Chairman Lee Jae-myung should also be ashamed. In the end, the people may be tempted by President Yoon, but representative Lee Jae-myung is pushing himself too hard for his judicial risk bulletproof.

[Anchor] I think there's something to say:
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[Kang Sungpil]
However, no matter how much you do that, it's been a long time to think about the days of tiger smoking and 6 months ago as the past of tiger smoking. In any case, the Democratic Party also seems to have something to reflect on. So, I think this politics has changed that the Democratic Party of Korea does not receive a chance to reflect, even though the public opinion in the presidential office is not good. In the past, we were popular if the opponent was not good, but these days, both of them are falling together. That's why I think Jeongja needs to end quickly. That's why each of us has to work for the people's livelihood. It seems that this is related to the suspicion of Myung Tae-kyun or Kim Gun-hee, and recently former administrator Kim Dae-nam, as the transcript spread, everything was sucked in like a black hole, so it did not show the opposition party properly anyway. And I interpret CEO Han Dong-hoon's attempt to differentiate himself from Yoon Suk Yeol's president anyway, as the conservative supporters try to do well and give him an opportunity.

[Anchor]
Then, I will ask you a question about what topics will be on the table at the meeting between the ruling and opposition parties. First of all, Vice-Chairman, what will be discussed at this representative meeting?

[Kang Sungpil]
One of the serious issues now is the serious security problem that North Korea sent troops to Russia. Then, the current economic growth rate is falling more than expected, and there is a big economic problem as to whether or not interest rates should be cut now. So, it is important to discuss these issues intensively, but anyway, the Democratic Party of Korea put 13 things in relation to the Special Prosecutor's Act on Kim Gun-hee. It is possible to narrow the agenda by coordinating it through consultation with CEO Han Dong-hoon and narrow it down to a permanent special prosecutor. In addition, we need to control the special prosecution to open up room for representative Han Dong-hoon to approve the special prosecution law, which seems like this.

[Anchor]
The presidential office is in this position that it will also receive a special inspector if the ruling and opposition parties agree, so will these parts be discussed?

[Jungwook Seo]
The special inspector will receive it, and is it time to talk about the special prosecutor? And it took four and a half years with Deutsche Motors, and if we investigate 13 cases, we will have a 10-year special prosecution, until the next administration. If you put up a few ridiculous things and investigate them, it takes four years for the investigation to do one. It's not time for me to do something like that, but the most important thing right now is to die and live, and then to live. The problem of dying and living, this is not visible. The North Korean military has been put into action. The North Korean military always points its guns at us and goes to war again against those who have tasted blood. So this is a serious problem, a security problem. Then the economic problem of living and living, people's livelihoods. We need to discuss this. Is it time to talk about the special counsel?

[Anchor]
We looked into the atmosphere of the political situation today and talked about the current situation around the Korean Peninsula and various agendas. I asked a lot of questions because there were so many stories, but I couldn't give them all. I'll say goodbye here. Attorney Seo Jeong-wook and Vice Chairman Kang Sung-pil of the Democratic Party of Korea's National Communication Committee. Thank you both.