[News Fighting] Hwang Un-ha said, "The Cho Kuk Innovation Party and the Democratic Party are sharing the role of impeaching the 尹."

[YTN Radio News Fighting Bae Seunghee]
□ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (07:15 - 09:00)
□ Broadcast date and time: November 20, 2024 (Wednesday)
□ Host: Attorney Bae Seung-hee
□ Starter: Hwang Un-ha, Floor Leader of the Cho Kuk Innovation Party

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[YTN Radio <News Fighting, Bae Seunghee]> Please reveal that it's about the interview.

◆ Attorney Bae Seung-hee (hereinafter referred to as Bae Seung-hee): I'm Bae Seung-hee, the news fighting. Continuing with the issue interview. The Cho Kuk Innovation Party said it would start the impeachment train, and today it plans to unveil the impeachment bill at Gwanghwamun Square. In this regard, I will connect Hwang Un-ha, floor leader of the Cho Kuk Innovation Party, and hear more about it. Are you here?

◇Hwang Un-ha, floor leader of the Cho Kuk Innovation Party (hereinafter referred to as Hwang Un-ha): Yes, hello. I'm Hwang Un-ha.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Today, Gwanghwamun will unveil the impeachment motion that includes 15 reasons for impeachment. Let's hear the most important reason for impeachment.

◇Hwangwoonha: I've organized about 15. If we divide them into categories, we can divide them into individual categories.Seven public interest presidents gave the constitutional obligation to realize the public interest. The duty to protect the Constitution The duty to comply with the Constitution and protect the Constitution has been fulfilled. It violated the duty of political neutrality and the freedom of representative democratic parties. The rule of law violated the rule of law by enacting an enforcement decree that violates the legislative power of the National Assembly. Then, it violates the right to life guarantee under the Constitution. Then the full text of the Constitution

◆ Bae Seunghee: Yes

◇Hwang Canal: Denied the law of the Provisional Government of the Republic of Korea. Something like this, and then violated the freedom of speech clause. I think we can divide it into 7 categories. The public knows the details, such as the manipulation of Deutsche Motors' stock prices, the president's abuse of veto power by breaking the inherent limits of veto power, the president's involvement in party affairs, Myung Tae-kyun's manipulation of state affairs, and the humiliating third-party repayment plan for forced mobilization, which violated the full text of the Constitution, violated the obligation to guarantee the right to life, such as marine dumping of contaminated water from Fukushima, and violated the freedom of speech clause in relation to the Korea Communications Commission.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: You think this is all a serious reason for violation of the constitution and law.

◇Hwangwoonha: Yes, every one of them is a very serious reason for violation of the Constitution. As you know, the reason for impeachment of the president should not stop at simply violating constitutional law, but should be serious enough to dismiss the president. Right. But each one is so serious that it is so serious that it overwhelms the national loss caused by the dismissal. The benefits of protecting the Constitution that can be obtained through the dismissal of the president are so serious that the violation of the law is so serious that it overwhelms the national loss caused by the dismissal of the president, and the people's trust in the people and the betrayal of the people's sovereignty are so great that they have no choice but to regain the people's trust during their term in office. I think that this is a serious and difficult reason to turn back.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: But this impeachment motion is... More than half of the lawmakers in the National Assembly should propose, but isn't the Cho Kuk Innovation Party 12 seats now? That's right. I don't think it's possible to propose impeachment alone.

◇Hwangwoonha: Of course not. It takes 150 people to propose it.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Are you cooperating with the Democratic Party?

◇Hwangwoonha: Of course. What's the point of having 150 impeachment touts if you don't join the Democrats and just making a motion? In the end, it needs to pass the National Assembly, but passing the National Assembly requires 200 lawmakers, so one of the reasons why the Democratic Party is reluctant to participate in the impeachment now is whether it can secure 200 votes and then whether the Constitutional Court's decision to cite it is certain.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: So far, the Democratic Party seems to be drawing a line on impeachment. Then, when do you think you will cooperate with the Democratic Party?

◇Hwang Un-ha: The Democratic Party and the Cho Kuk Innovation Party are sharing roles now. I think you can understand this. So, the Democratic Party seems to judge that the conditions are not yet mature, and as I said earlier, the Democratic Party of Korea is not a party that can propose the Cho Kuk Innovation Party alone, and the Democratic Party should see impeachment as a party theory as soon as the leadership mentions it, and if it mentions impeachment as a party theory, there should be follow-up measures that should be proposed and passed by the National Assembly. So, the conditions must mature until that happens, but someone who makes the various conditions necessary for impeachment mature while representing the public opinion that it is difficult for the people to run the state affairs normally does not mature like this. Since the Cho Innovation Party should play a leading role, and the Democratic Party should play such a role as a "shaving ship" and the Democratic Party of Korea should play the role of the main camp, the Democratic Party of Korea will participate in the impeachment and cooperate from then on.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Constitutional Court The three judges of the Constitutional Court should also be appointed. So far, the Democratic Party has not yet recommended the appointment. Even these things have to be solved.

◇Hwang Un-ha: I think I will definitely recommend the Constitutional Court judge. Aren't three of the nine people empty right now? In order for the Constitutional Court to decide on the citation, six out of nine must approve. Because we have to cite it, it may not be easy to make a citation decision with the current structure of six constitutional judges, so the three Democrats will recommend it at an appropriate time.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Okay. The Democratic Party and the opposition party are fighting a public opinion battle ahead of a re-vote after demanding a reconsideration of the Special Prosecutor's Act by Kim Gun-hee. After Representative Lee Jae-myung's sentence of violation of the Public Official Election Act, both camps are expected to gather and vote for departure is unlikely. There's also this kind of prediction. Do you expect a leave vote when this vote is re-voted?

◇Hwangwoonha: Actually, no one knows. However, representative Lee Jae-myung's trial is a trial, and just because of the suspended prison sentence in the first trial of representative Lee Jae-myung doesn't mean that Kim Gun-hee's luxury bag issue or her manipulation of state affairs in the gate of Myeong Tae-gyun will be lightened or disappeared, right? That's a completely separate matter. Since the trial is a trial and the independent counsel is a special prosecutor, lawmakers of the People's Power will know that normal state administration will not be able to operate state administration unless the case of Kim Gun-hee is resolved. So I have to shake this off before I go. Otherwise, how can you continue two and a half years with a president who cannot run state affairs normally for the future of the Republic of Korea? That's an impossible story, so even in the power of the people, I think there will be such lawmakers who judge whether the trial is a trial and the special prosecutor is a special prosecutor.
◆ Bae Seunghee: How many people

◇Hwang Canal: I think we will judge that an independent counsel is inevitable for the country, not for solidarity.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: How many do you expect?

◇Hwangwoonha: How can you expect that?

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Last time, there were about four people. That

◇Hwangwoonha: Last time, there were 4 people. There were four people.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I think there will be more this time.

◇Hwang Un-ha: It's not easy to predict, but rather than just securing eight more people, I expect the People's Power lawmakers to judge that more than that, let's clear the question of Kim Gun-hee's independent counsel this time.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Okay. CEO Han Dong-hoon's investigation into Lee Jae-myung's perjury teacher was possible due to the prosecution's uniform in the midst of this. I'm making this argument. What if you give me your opinion?

◇Hwangwoonha: That's ridiculous. As former Justice Minister Han Dong-hoon, a so-called prosecutor, boasted about how Han Dong-hoon violated the rule of law and violated the Constitution, what Han said sounds like a confession of a crime. The National Assembly revised the Public Prosecutors' Office Act, which stipulated six prosecutors' direct investigation targets as six crimes, and previously targeted 76 crimes, including corruption, economy, public officials, election, defense industry, and election crimes. The purpose of the National Assembly's legislation is clear that the National Assembly's prosecution should directly reduce the number of investigations, but representative Han Dong-hoon violated it head-on, so he increased it as the Minister of Justice. How can you think of this as a lawyer? Is the state administration a joke? As if jokingly, the prosecution would not be able to directly investigate Lee Jae-myung if it was not an unconstitutional enforcement decree. However, just because the prosecution does not investigate directly, it doesn't mean that the investigation in Korea is not working. Since there are police, airlift offices, and various investigative agencies, the prosecution is misleading the public with such claims as "If they don't investigate, the Republic of Korea's ability to respond to crimes will weaken, the right to investigate," and Han said, "His unconstitutional enforcement decree was actually a coup in the enforcement decree, a reason for impeachment, and such contents can be punished as a crime, and Han Dong-geun's mind sounds like he is trying to attract a true idea.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Okay. The prosecution also indicted Lee Jae-myung yesterday on charges of misappropriation of corporate credit cards in Gyeonggi Province. He is accused of spending about 106 million won, including purchasing sandwiches and fruit beef using his corporate card. How did you see this part?

◇Hwang Un-ha: It's too shameful to do the prosecution. I think the public will be curious about the end of the political oppression to kill Lee Jae-myung. Of course, everyone is equal before the law, and if anyone committed a crime, of course, they should be punished. However, isn't it a typical dusting investigation aimed at a specific person, such as buying a sandwich with the corporate card or the corporate card you're referring to now? Who would be a free public official with such an investigation? Of course, there may be people who don't, but isn't this a typical targeted investigation where a typical dusty person sets a goal to prosecute, set a goal, prosecute, and keep talking until something comes out on top of it? If you apply the same standard, you can understand it again. However, the prosecution's standard of prosecution does not win public sympathy for Kim Gun-hee's 3 million won Dior Bag, which he just covered up and spent 100,000 won on corporate credit cards. Isn't it the same for President Yoon? President Yoon said

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I think I should ask you a question. The prosecution is now accused of using 106 million won, but what the lawmaker said is that it is okay for the governor of Gyeonggi Province to use corporate cards privately.

◇Hwangwoonha: I'm not saying it's okay. I'm not saying it's okay, but if it's confirmed that the corporate card has been used privately, it can constitute a crime. However, the right to investigate the Republic of Korea must be equitable and proportionate. Is it a legitimate investigation to investigate all citizens like dust? That's what I'm talking about. I'm talking about overinvestigation. We're talking about targeted investigations, we're talking about overinvestigation, we're talking about retaliatory prosecutions, not just using corporate cards outside the limits of corporate cards.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Okay. I asked because I thought the viewers would misunderstand. The Cho Kuk Innovation Party criticized the judiciary, which sentenced Chairman Lee Jae-myung to prison, and issued a harsh ruling only on the opposition leader. I asked if the people would understand. What do you mean by harshness in what way?

◇Hwang Unha: Rather than criticizing the judiciary, politicians' remarks that should be hidden in the realm of politics should be resolved in the political realm, and if the judiciary judges and intervenes, it eventually reduces freedom of expression, which eventually leads to a contraction of democracy. Also, if the court ruling is finalized, the eligibility for running may be limited, but the essence of democracy is to elect public officials through elections through public voting, and the flower of democracy is the election system, and it is the opinion of scholars and lawyers that making such a ruling that limits the eligibility for running for office with politician's remarks and problems to be solved in the political field. I was talking about judicial excess, and all Koreans should respect the specific judiciary's ruling. Regardless of whether it is the first or second trial, judicial decisions must be respected.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: CEO Lee Jae-myung is set to be sentenced to the first trial of the perjury teacher case on the 25th. On the contrary, there is a prediction from the legal profession that there is a greater possibility of a heavy sentence than the election law. What do you expect?

◇Hwang Un-ha: The legal profession can talk about this and that, but I think no one should refrain from making comments that are seen as pressure or some kind of intervention against the court. So it's better not to say anything about a serious older brother or a lighter older brother. So, I'm just watching Woo-jin's first trial sentence on the 25th with concern, and it's very inappropriate to mention what kind of sentence you expect. They say that responsible politicians should not talk recklessly.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: After Lee Jae-myung's first trial was sentenced, Rep. Choi Min-hee will kill if the screaming world moves. I even apologized by using this expression. Is this the beginning of the Democratic Party's internal division?

◇Hwang Un-ha: Regarding the internal situation of the Democratic Party, I'm currently a Democratic Party member, but I'm not a Democratic Party member now, so it's hard to know exactly the internal situation and it doesn't seem appropriate to tell you. However, isn't the Democratic Party the main opposition party and a huge party? There may be various opinions there. That's the Democratic Party. After that, the public's approval rating for the Democratic Party has not changed much since the first trial. Therefore, there is no change or even a slight increase in the number of democratic forces and progressive forces, so the leadership of representative Lee Jae-myung is currently unwavering. It will not waver in the future. That's how I see it.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes, former lawmaker Yoon Mi-hyang was convicted four years and two months after the indictment, but the issue of delay in the trial was under fire as the sentence of the loss of her position was confirmed only after the term of the National Assembly. How do you see it?

◇Hwang Un-ha: I think that's what happened when the court rushed to try it as soon as possible. So, of course, even now, the Supreme Court is saying a lot about hurrying up the trial, hurrying up, so I'm probably rushing the trial as much as possible. To tell you my case, people say that the trial has been delayed in my case, but I've been on trial once a week. The court will also be very difficult to proceed with the trial once a week. The prosecution is responsible for delaying the trial by applying for so many witnesses, but it takes a long time because the prosecution is so shamelessly prosecuting. The prosecution requests a tremendous amount of witnesses, prosecutes them in a sham, and requests a tremendous amount of witnesses to fit them together. That's the main reason for the delay in the trial.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Okay. I think you have a lot to say from the person concerned, but I think we need to interview next time. Yes, I see. Thank you very much for what you said. Until now, Hwang Un-ah was the floor leader of the Cho Kuk Innovation Party.