[YTN Radio News Fighting]
□ Broadcast: FM 94.5 (07:15~09:00)
□ Broadcast date and time: December 16, 2024 (Monday)
□ Host: Kim Woo-sung PD
□ Castor: Park Soo-hyun, member of the Democratic Party of Korea
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◆Kim Woosung PD (hereinafter referred to as Kim Woosung): YTN Radio News Fighting Part 2 begins. 12. From emergency martial law to the lifting of the emergency martial law and the passing of the impeachment bill, the National Assembly was at the center of it. Many people's eyes and ears turned to the National Assembly. The majority Democratic Party also led the political situation. Rep. Park Soo-hyun of the Democratic Party of Korea is connected to tell you the related story in detail. How are you, Senator?
◇ Rep. Park Soo-hyun of the Democratic Party (hereinafter referred to as Park Soo-hyun): Yes, hello, I'm Park Soo-hyun.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: The impeachment motion has been passed. It's the third one. You may have seen the situation inside while participating in the vote. What should I say? Did you think impeachment would be passed? Were you a little nervous? How was the situation?
◇ Park Soo-hyun: Yes, I watched the second vote on the 14th with a lot of anxiety and prayers with the people, even though I highly appreciated the possibility of a resolution. Anyway, I am very relieved that the Yoon Suk Yeol's presidency could be suspended immediately after passing 200 votes thanks to the loud cheering of the people and the participation of the people in the square. However, anyway, I think and pledge that I should never let my guard down until the Constitutional Court cites this impeachment motion and gather my mind to the end.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, he said he had the idea that it would be passed, but now he has 204 votes in favor, 85 votes against, 3 abstentions, 8 votes invalid. How do you interpret this result?
◇ Park Soo-hyun: So before that, when the permanent independent counsel bill was passed, about 34 votes were in favor of or abstained from the people's power, and I had a slightly different idea. So my personal expectation was that the impeachment motion would probably have about 20 to 30 votes for the departure, including approval or abstention. However, as the anchor said, it could be seen that about 23 votes were out of the game, so I was expecting that. However, considering the anger of the people and the roar of the people, it is regrettable that it would have been better if the impeachment motion had been passed with more participation in the power of the people.
◆Kim Woo-sung: Yes, the result of the vote is regrettable. CEO Lee Jae-myung held a press conference yesterday. He proposed the formation of a national stability consultative body to the people's power and the government, saying that it is urgent to normalize the Republic of Korea. Many people are curious about the background and necessity of talking about the National Security Council, even though they immediately expressed their intention to reject the power of the people.
◇ Park Soo-hyun: Kwon Sung-dong, the floor leader of People's Power, rejected Lee Jae-myung's proposal and said, "The Democratic Party of Korea acts as if it has become a ruling party." I'm sorry to hear why you said that when you're a multi-term lawmaker and an experienced lawmaker. The president's duties, the power elected by the people, have now been suspended. If so, the power elected by the people is now gone. Then, the power elected by the people has no choice but to consider and take care of the state affairs of the Republic of Korea in a stable manner. The only power elected by the people is the National Assembly. Then, there are various political parties, including one party and two parties, and floor leader Kwon Sung-dong's words mean that the opposition party should leave because the power of the people is the ruling party. However, it is the people's power that the people's power becomes the ruling party when the party produced the president, and now the president has become a rebellion, and the people have been suspended from their duties with the impeachment bill passed by the National Assembly, but it is the people's power to mistake the ruling party. Since the Democratic Party of Korea is not trying to act as a ruling party, it is natural that the National Assembly, another people-elected power, is not a matter of the ruling and opposition parties, but all my parties must put their heads together and take care of the state of affairs that are expected to be confused. And this is something that we've already done during the impeachment of Park Geun Hye in 2016. I would like to say that the Democratic Party of Korea is not trying to be a ruling party, and Chairman Kwon Sung-dong urges various political parties to put their heads together and discuss with the government in the National Assembly, the power elected by the people.
◆Kim Woo-sung: In fact, should we say that there is no distinction between the ruling and opposition parties in the current political situation?
◇ Park Soo-hyun: Of course. Isn't your presidency suspended?
◆ Kim Woo-sung: There are no ruling and opposition parties. Now, CEO Lee Jae-myung also said it. I said that the power of the people should be together as a second party, not as a ruling party, but I am most worried about the most urgent vacuum in state administration, but there are some things to take care of in the meantime. That's why I was talking about the State Security Council. What do you think it is?
◇ Park Soo-hyun: Yes, we can now divide it into domestic and foreign countries. First of all, isn't the people's livelihood the biggest problem domestically anyway? Yes, anyway, the entire army is well prepared to be strong without leaking water, and Han Deok-soo, acting president, is also giving instructions yesterday. However, the problem of the people's livelihood is not a problem that will happen overnight. It's a time when the people's pain is being heard that it's much more difficult than during the IMF or at this time because some problems such as the slump in domestic consumption are very serious. There is a problem like this, and as the political situation in Korea becomes unstable externally, the uncertainty that is the worst economically is being maximized. Nevertheless, our exchange rate and the stock market are relatively fluctuating, but the reason why it keeps coming back is because the world believes that Korea's democracy is also stable as citizens around the world see this people lift this emergency martial law from the National Assembly by showing this mature democratic consciousness with a candlelight cheering stick. But obviously that's not the only thing to do. Since it is necessary to show that Korea's leadership is exactly standing, it is necessary to quickly show the stability of Korean politics around the world through such a state affairs stability consultative body proposed by representative Lee Jae-myung to eliminate economic uncertainty. That's what I think. We need to show those things quickly. In particular, there is only about a month left before the Trump administration enters office. The people are worried that Samsung and our semiconductors are also facing a big crisis right now. However, during the Biden administration, Samsung and SK Hynix made large-scale investments in the United States due to the so-called chip act. It's to get policy subsidies there. But now, the U.S. Department of Commerce and other countries are negotiating subsidies. However, looking at the news yesterday, Micro, which competes with Samsung and SK in the United States, has already agreed to receive 8.8 trillion won in support. In this crisis, there is a problem that semiconductor Samsung and SK need to proceed with negotiations quickly and receive stable assistance. With the political instability of the Republic of Korea right now, we need to take care of these issues whether it is helping Korea's industry department or related ministries negotiate with the U.S. Department of Commerce and Samsung SK. I see.These are the big problems. In any case, I think the most important thing now is to quickly show Korea's stability around the world by removing these economic uncertainties, including exchange rates, stocks, and negotiations on semiconductors.
◆Kim Woo-sung: Yes, as a result of the Constitutional Court's judgment on the impeachment, there is still time for many things, so we have to respond quickly to things before that. Is that why? Now, Prime Minister Han Deok-soo is acting as the president, and Prime Minister Han Deok-soo also raised a question about the allegations of civil war in relation to the resolution of the emergency martial law.I will not push for impeachment. That's what I said. Are you in a connected position?
◇ Park Soo-hyun: That's right. We thought a lot about it, too. We had a lot of opinions that impeachment should be made, but we cannot help but consider that aspect of the stability of the state administration, but that's why Prime Minister Han Deok-soo has filed a complaint instead. So, as we go more stably later, if there is anything to be investigated as a result of the investigation, we can receive it and deal with it accordingly. The party leadership decided that it would be better than impeachment, which suspends the prime minister's duties immediately, and yesterday, Chairman Lee Jae-myung told the public that he decided not to impeach him.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, this is the situation, but isn't Prime Minister Han Deok-soo the acting president now, especially on the six bills that have been passed? The people demanded the exercise of the second right of demand. What's the Democratic Party's position?
◇ Park Soo-hyun: The powers given to the acting president are set. However, the general interpretation is that you should not actively do all of those things. An acting authority should be made to such an extent that it passively manages and maintains the current situation. Because it is not an elected power, is it? That's what it is, but since Prime Minister Han Deok-soo himself answered at the National Assembly the day before yesterday, I heard him respond to his role in managing the current situation well. So, after a long period of labor, six major bills, including the agricultural and public welfare judicial law passed by the National Assembly, have been proposed by the people to exercise their veto power to President Yoon Suk Yeol, but since his duties have been suspended, the prime minister has to solve the problem, and I think this veto is a very active exercise of presidential power. That is why it can be a big problem for the acting Prime Minister to exercise his veto. That's what I'm thinking. In any case, the acting authority has no choice but to put its head together and discuss closely with the National Assembly, the elected power. That is why I clearly state that this law passed by the National Assembly will not and should not be chosen to exercise its power very actively.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: I won't And Democratic Party lawmaker Park Soo-hyun's position was that he should not do it. Then, what's left is how the Constitutional Court will judge the impeachment vote, and there are six justices of the Constitutional Court now. Yes, what should I say? Lawyer Cho Han-chang and senior judge Ma Eun-hyuk, the chief justice of the court in political affairs, are now recommended, but there are many different opinions on whether they will be speedy or not. What do you think?
◇ Park Soo-hyun: Oh, well, you won't have to worry about that. Although the Pope was delayed for a number of reasons. Isn't today the 16th? From about the 18th, the confirmation hearing of the Constitutional Judge will begin this week. In general, all procedures will be completed at the plenary session of the National Assembly scheduled for December 30th, and the confirmation hearing will probably pass. So it will be finished within this year. So it's going to be a nine-member complete system. That's what I'm thinking. Then, as the acting head of the Constitutional Court, Moon Hyung-bae, said yesterday, the hearing can start with a six-member system. He said he would make sure the process would proceed a little faster and fairly even before the system was complete. On the other hand, the Constitutional Court can start the hearing with the current six-member system, so once it can prepare and conduct such hearings, the process will proceed as quickly as possible as the public wishes. I think so.
◆Kim Woo-sung: Now, the impeachment of former presidents is the third impeachment. I compared these times to what took about 60 or 90 days, and this time the judgment on the impeachment of President Yoon Suk Yeol will take some time. Do you view from within the Democratic Party?
◇ Park Soo-hyun: Yes, during the impeachment of President Roh Moo Hyun in 2004, I remember that the impeachment motion was dismissed in 63 days and I returned to my duties as president. It was now in 2017 during the 2016 president of Park Geun Hye, but it was quoted in 91 days, and as a result, he was fired as president, and now the presidential election was held 60 days later, right? As I said earlier, the impeachment of the Yoon Suk Yeol has been watched by the entire nation as if it were broadcasting live. That's why the Constitutional Court is said to be able to follow its political orientation, but as a result, I think that it has no choice but to follow the choice of the people who are sovereign. So I think there's no reason to drag this out for a long time because it's so obvious and simple, and I think President Yoon Suk Yeol should cooperate so that the confusion takes a little bit of time as he recognizes that he committed such a big crime in front of history and minimizes public confusion as a person who has been in the presidency so far.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: But I made my position clear. Immediately after the impeachment was passed, he said he would never give up. If it's a trial several times, I said I'll respond to the investigation if it's a trial and a variety of investigations.
◇ Park Soo-hyun: That's why he had such a brazen philosophy that he would have caused such a civil war and done that. You shouldn't do that.
◆Kim Woo-sung: Yes, but some predict that if President Lee actively responds, the time for the impeachment trial will be longer if President Yoon Suk Yeol actively responds.
◇ Park Soo-hyun: Even so. I think the logic put forward by President Yoon Suk Yeol is very poor. And the logic to cite impeachment is so strong, and isn't all the people who have seen it live? And now, all the people suspected of conspiracy, including former Defense Minister Kim Yong-hyun, special forces commander, defense commander, and counterintelligence commander, are confessing now. So it's not funny how they claim that only the president is not guilty when all of these people are arrested as important mission workers. Because the logic is so simple and clear on these issues, I don't think it's that long.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, it depends on how the Constitutional Court decides to impeach him, but if the decision is decided by the referee as a quote, there is a high possibility of an early presidential election. Interest in CEO Lee Jae-myung is increasing. Because there are a lot of court rulings ahead. What do you think?
◇ Park Soo-hyun: No, so I will clarify this issue in the future, but impeachment is impeachment and Lee Jae-myung is Lee Jae-myung. For example, in order to help his so-called judicial risk, there are people who openly talk about it on TV these days, or did Lee Jae-myung lead the impeachment by ordering a Yoon Suk Yeol to cover it up and to hold an early presidential election? It's not like that.
Kim Woo-sung: It's a separate matter. Like this ball
◇ Park Soo-hyun: It's a separate matter. Therefore, the Democratic Party of Korea has no intention of using the historical pain of Lee's sick people for any political interests of the Democratic Party or Lee's political future presidential election. That's why I'm sorry. Impeachment is impeachment and it's a crime before history and the people before the Constitution. It should be handled neatly as it is, and the presidential election should never be related to another people's choice as it is, and the Democratic Party has no intention of linking it. I know all too well that the people will never forgive the Democratic Party if they tried to do so.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, in fact, there are many different positions on this trial and trial. First, the speed of the Constitutional Court's impeachment trial should be accelerated. The position that we need to do it quickly, but the position that we need to speed up the trial surrounding representative Lee Jae-myung is mainly on the people's strength. And both trials should be quick. Lee Joon-seok, a member of the New Reform Party, is making this argument. I have some political interests. Do you judge that there's a difference?
◇ Park Soo-hyun: No, that's why the power of the people doesn't deserve to be said. How can you say that in a party that has produced a president who has waged an insurrection? Does a political party deserve to say that now, even if it is willing to commit a crime against the people and disband the political party, whether it will be forgiven by the people or not? And CEO Lee Joon-seok should not blur the controversy that links this issue to the presidential election. It's not something a politician should do. It's all for the people to judge. I see. And representative Lee Jae-myung's trial is proceeding according to the due date in the order of trials set by the law, and it will happen. And the impeachment trial also has some precedent in the past and there are legal deadlines to do so, so why not proceed within it? Do it artificially, do it quickly, do it quickly, there's no such thing as that.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, the two cases are separate, and representative Lee Jae-myung said that the impeachment should proceed as scheduled as the representative's trial and the Constitutional Court's judgment. I think we need to look at the power of the people now. With all five members of the Supreme Council resigning, the Han Dong-hoon system has virtually collapsed, and it is known that he will announce his position this morning. How do you see the situation in the ruling party?
◇ Park Soo-hyun: Well, I don't know if it's right for me to comment on the situation of the ruling party, but I don't care what the result is. What's unfortunate, however, is that the people's impeachment is deeply hurtful to the people. Yes, politicians should feel sorry for the public for this, but the people's power is protecting impeachment and opposing the Constitutional Court's decision again. Aren't they fighting for power in order to maintain such forces to obstruct the Constitutional Court's acceptance of impeachment?
◆Kim Woosung: Yes
◇ Park Soo-hyun: You shouldn't do that.
◆Kim Woo-sung: In favor of impeachment
◇ Park Soo-hyun: I don't know what's going on, but as the ruling party that produced an impeached president, it will never be forgiven by the people to show that kind of attitude anymore. I want to say that clearly.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: Rep. Han Dong-hoon, who voted for impeachment, is also saying he is a traitor, and he is continuing his attacks, and all of them are competitions for the party's leadership. Are you looking at it like this?
◇ Park Soo-hyun: The very fact that they stigmatize and point fingers among themselves as traitors is to betray the people twice to the people twice. Keep that in mind
◆Kim Woosung: Betrayal twice. Yes, lastly, I'll ask you for a brief opinion. Now, I asked the prosecution's Seoul Central District Prosecutors' Office to summon the president of Yoon Suk Yeol as the main suspect, or the main culprit, but I refused. I refused. They say they are preparing for a second summons, but they are still receiving presidential security. There are various articles about whether the investigation is practically possible. What do you think?
◇ Park Soo-hyun: I think that President Yoon Suk Yeol himself is probably prepared to be arrested. Of course, you have to be arrested. However, there will now be various types of arrest by emergency arrest or arrest by warrant request. There must be, but now it seems right that many of the things that the people have witnessed need to be arrested immediately. That's right, but from the perspective of the Yoon Suk Yeol, who has already decided to take legal action while maintaining his presidency, receiving security, and receiving salaries, there's no way he can cooperate. I see. However, the prosecution and the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit police are now competing in this investigation.
◆Kim Woo-sung: Yes, I think we should wrap it up here.
◇ Park Soo-hyun: Okay. Yes, yes.
◆Kim Woo-sung: We need to look at the position of the investigative agency. Thank you for talking with me today.
◇ Park Soo-hyun: Thank you.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: It was Rep. Park Soo-hyun of the Democratic Party of Korea.
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