Cho Won-jin said, "If you arrest an illegal warrant, you will get a 尹 approval rating of more than 50%."

[YTN radio news fighting]

□ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (07:15-09:00)
□ Broadcast date and time: January 8, 2025 (Wednesday)
□ Host: Kim Woo-sung PD
□ Cast: Cho Won-jin, representative of the Korean Republican Party

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◆ PD Kim Woo-sung (hereinafter referred to as Kim Woo-sung): Yes, YTN Radio News Fighting Part 3, as I announced, we will talk with our Republican representative Cho Won-jin's studio. Hello, CEO. Yes, nice to meet you. In fact, we are harsher than lawmakers or presidents. We need to be evaluated by the people every three months, so we can make promotional remarks and talk like this, but I wonder if it will be different if politicians are evaluated often like this. First of all, President Yoon Suk Yeol eventually went to a situation where the execution of the arrest warrant was reported internally and externally. The ruling party lawmakers said they would block it and even showed the situation where 44 minutes went in front of the official residence. How did you judge by looking at these situations as a whole?

◇ Cho Won-jin, chairman of the Republican Party (hereinafter referred to as Cho Won-jin): It's a pity for the people, but the important thing is that the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit does not have the right to investigate this rebellion. That's illegal. And there is no problem with yesterday's story because the judge issued a warrant because the agency that the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit is investigating illegally requested a warrant. It's a gross misconception, and in that regard, the warrant itself is wrong that an illegal investigative agency has requested a warrant. Wouldn't it be a problem from there? There is also a position that security is provided under the Security Act, but you are now being impeached with a wrong warrant for illegal evasion, but aren't you the incumbent president? I'll arrest the president on a back-and-forth basis. How are you going to deal with that kind of resistance?

◆ Kim Woo-sung: The controversy that has been clearly concluded legally has raised controversy

◇ Cho Won-jin: This is not legally stated in the provisions of the law, so the police have the right to investigate the crime of rebellion. However, there is a reason why the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit has not been able to do anything so far, but it is actively reducing illegal evasion in this case. But this is wrong. Isn't that why Yongsan's position or the defense team's position is like that? No, this issue is illegal, but arrests are made with illegally issued warrants. That also arrests the president. It will probably be difficult for the opposition party or the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit to get consent on this issue. From here, you're holding the wrong string.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, you pointed out exactly where it went wrong. If so, the police and the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit said that if they prevent the execution of arrest warrants issued by the court, they can also punish the security service staff for obstructing the execution of official duties.

◇ Cho Won-jin: There is no obstruction to the execution of official duties. Because the warrant itself is illegal. Yes, and when you issued the first warrant, Judge Lee Dong-hyun committed illegal acts, right? I've written my own interpretation of such major military confidential areas and major areas in the Criminal Procedure Act. Article 10 How does a judge do that without changing the law? That's very wrong. That's why the Airborne Division is investigating now, the warrant issue issued by the Airborne Division, and the police problem now that they want to execute the warrant. The people can't agree because everything started with illegal evasion. The opposition party says it now, but they don't say it's not illegal. Then we have to keep a close eye on the matter.

◇ Cho Won-jin: In that regard, there is a jurisdiction issue over this part, but what kind of problem will happen when you arrest the president, for example, without eliminating this illegal evasion problem? There is no choice but to have a resistance from the people and face headwinds.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Then the special prosecutor is actually coming out as a solution. The independent counsel said that the ruling party would reject the party's opinion, but in the case of Ahn Cheol Soo, the independent counsel is in a different position. It came out like this.

◇ Cho Won-jin: During the last Park Geun Hye, Rep. Ahn Cheol Soo took the lead in calling for the resignation of President Park Park Geun Hye, and the result was the birth of the Kim Moon Jae In administration, right? The Moon Jae In regime came in. And look back on what happened five years and seven years ago, because those who did the same are now sympathizing with what they claim to be lawless. You have to look back on what you have achieved and what the situation has been like for the Republic of Korea and talk about the same things today. So Member for Ahn Cheol Soo is ineligible. In that regard, if you go this way again, you will be a member of the Ahn Cheol Soo who contributed tremendously to the birth of the Lee Jae-myung regime. I can't agree on that.

◇ Cho Won-jin: Then, in the end, what the people suspect in various situations is why they deviate from the legal situation without taking procedures and having fairness and purpose. It's the same in the Constitutional Court in the impeachment process. The Constitutional Court also excludes the most important issue of the impeachment motion, the crime of rebellion.

◆ Kim Woosung: Yes

◇ Cho Won-jin: It lacks a very important purpose. After all, if you look at the Constitutional Court's chairman of the Constitutional Court Act in the researcher's institute, this person is the National Assembly. If the party is the National Assembly and changes or cancels any of the impeachment bills, it says, "The National Assembly needs a re-decision." Then, this issue was organized in the first part of the impeachment charges due to impeachment. Then, if anything happened due to this civil war, if the crime of rebellion is removed, of course, you must go back to the National Assembly for a re-decision. This is clearly stated in the law and is clearly stated in the interpretation of the law. Since the Constitution of the Constitutional Court is the same in the interpretation made by the Constitutional Court Research Institute, this is simply excluded from the impeachment charge. And the other one is that among the prosecutors, this part is the recommendation of the Constitutional Judge to exclude the crime of rebellion from the agents.

◇ Cho Won-jin: Then the Constitutional Court and now the Democratic Party are in a negotiation. It can't happen, and this is a big problem. If you do something wrong. No matter what the Constitutional Court decides, the people may or may not object. Another thing is that if the Constitutional Court rejects this issue, I think the president should be dismissed. Although they have this position, even if they hold an early presidential election, they can even go against the presidential election. Since this is a very important issue, I'm telling you in advance that let's do the purpose and the process quickly, but I know the impeachment process of President Park Geun Hye too well. Even then, there was no public hearing in the National Assembly. There was no discussion, and I asked Chairman Chung Sye-kyun to speak against it, but even that was ignored. It's the same this time.

◇ Cho Won-jin: We declared martial law on December 3rd, but on December 4th, without any preparation, we left the impeachment with a few press articles. That's not the role of the National Assembly. There's a defect in that. Starting from there, the Constitutional Court yesterday canceled some impeachment charges. Considering this part, there are so many things that are now lawless, so what concerns me is that people's resistance will be even stronger and the so-called conservative coalition will be stronger. I was in a very difficult situation on this show, but if that happens, there is a possibility that the remuneration will be collected. That's what I said, and it happened again, and if you arrest the president with the wrong illegal warrant, it comes out. I have an approval rating of 50% or more and an approval rating of resistance to President Yoon is more than 50%. If that happens, I know the flow because I meet a lot of people. The generation in their 20s and 30s has changed a lot.

◇ Cho Won-jin: In that regard, the Democratic Party of Korea is arrogant, but such loyalty competition for the Democratic Party to make President Lee Jae-myung is such a phenomenon, and Chung Chung-rae, chairman of the Judiciary Committee, went to the criminal law of the President of Yoon Suk Yeol yesterday to be used. To whom and to whom did you say this? Doesn't the fact that the chairman of the judiciary committee says that it is used even though he has not tried against the people and has not investigated his father's trial makes the people infested? It's a very wrong statement. This is how you look at it.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Arresting would increase his approval rating by more than 50%. That was Cho Won-jin's analysis. In fact, the Constitutional Court took a position on what you said earlier. It was up to the Constitutional Court to decide, and there was no recommendation after the handling of the rebellion. However, as representative Do Won-jin said earlier, if various controversies are not quelled, there will be other public resistance

◇ Cho Won-jin: In other words, during the Park Geun Hye presidency, Judge Kang and the current floor leader Kwon Won-dong had a meeting. So it's the judge who excluded 14 of the 19 cases and asked them to come up with the agenda again with 5 cases. Then you're going through the same process right now. The Constitutional Court judge had an intervention. Otherwise, it was done at the recommendation of the judge, not by the prosecution's agent. How can I say this? I made a mistake in saying that. No, it's possible to express that it's a mistake in words in this serious situation. It's going through the same process as it was seven years ago and now. In that regard, it is the same phenomenon as the fact that seven years ago, we did not have a discussion process at the National Assembly, and five out of 19 cases were omitted from the prosecution. Now, it is the same phenomenon as the crime of rebellion, which is the center of most of the prosecution.

◆ [Kim Woosung] Yes, sir. It's not a fact that there was a bit of time. We will decide on the opinions of CEO Cho Won-jin.

◇ Cho Won-jin: Of the eight judges of the Constitutional Court, then it's not like the judges of the Constitutional Court gathered and asked if you had a meeting with the opposition
or not.

◆ If we don't say anything, we have to let our guard down again. First of all, there are a lot of things you said, but let me ask you one last question. The Democratic Party of Korea also talked about it, and he compared it to Kwon Sung-dong, then a member of the impeachment committee, and former President Park Geun Hye's impeachment case in the past. However, the criminal charges are only dealt with as constitutional violations in the Constitutional Court, which only deals with the dismissal of the president. In other words, I'm not going to deal with it, I'm just going to deal with the constitution I'm explaining like this right now. What do you think?

◇ Cho Won-jin: Just because lawmaker Kwon Won-dong did something wrong and legally violated, he can also violate the impeachment prosecution of President Yoon Suk Yeol now. This is very wrong

◆ [Kim Woosung] It's a thought.

◇ Cho Won-jin: Clearly

◆ It was like that then, so don't be like that again this time.

◇ Cho Won-jin: The president of the Constitutional Court issued by the Court Research Institute states that if any important agenda is canceled, it must be resolved by the National Assembly. Then you can get my vote. If we proceed with this without a re-decision, we believe that the aftermath is enormous, and we have no choice but to be distrusted not only in public resistance but also in the political process following the Constitutional Court's trial.

◆ [Kim Woo-sung] Yes, actually, the most terrifying thing is the various grim situations of distrust. He told me earlier about public opinion. He said that if President Yoon Suk Yeol is arrested, his approval rating will increase by more than 50%, but if you look at the recent approval rating, it is more than 40%. However, the opposition party is also saying that it will file a complaint with the polling agency over this poll. We explained the outline earlier. You can check the website of the Central Election Public Opinion Review Committee, but more than 40% support it. This is no longer a state administration. Job is now suspended

◇ Cho Won-jin: There is more than 40% approval rating in one place. Two or three places are getting these results. Then that's the trend now, and this rallying phenomenon that I talked about at the time will happen. I didn't think that conservatives could rally and resist so quickly, but now almost all the people know that President Yoon Suk Yeol is illegal due to the wrong execution of warrants by the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit. But it's wrong to say that there's no illegality because you got a warrant for a warrant. So the resistance is very high when the arrest warrant for the president chosen by Lee's people is illegal. If so, there could be a situation that the DP cannot imagine. In that regard, what's wrong with withdrawing warrants that don't follow legal procedures and passing them over to the police from the airborne office without the right to investigate?

◇ Cho Won-jin: It's not about being quick, it's about being careful and fair. In the end, the people want to get rid of all legal procedures to make President Lee Jae-myung and do it quickly, but the people can't agree. So, since many people are aware that this is an illegal warrant request, resistance will be very strong. I will take legal action against pollsters. You'll probably be charged with that innocence, but at the moment of that legal action, you'll be charged with that innocence, and it's not one place right now. I said it was one place, but there were several results like that, so if I take legal action, there is a possibility that I will be innocent at a polling agency or a media agency that requested it.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, it was the result of a 34-day survey by the Korea Institute for Public Opinion Review at the request of Asia Today with 1,000 ars over the age of 18. This is a survey that you can refer to the website of the National Election Poll Citizen's Association, and they also talked about headwinds or innocence. In fact, former lawmaker Kim Min and lawmaker Yoon Sang-hyun often went to the residence of Pastor Chung Kwang-wook, and in a way, the leadership is drawing a line whether their opinions are the most important opinions of the party. How should I look at this situation? So I don't know the movement within public opinion.

◇ Cho Won-jin: I know Yoon Sang-hyun so well. They talk on the phone often and meet each other, but Yoon Sang-hyun said he met with President Yoon, but in the end, Yoon's mind cannot respond to such illegal execution of warrants. And I heard that I justified martial law as the ruler and withdrew it when the National Assembly voted in four hours. Rep. Yoon Sang-hyun is not pro-Yoon. In fact, Rep. Yoon Sang-hyun is not the kind of person who committed such acts. But I asked. So I'll tell you something that you're going to fight for your life. Why? Because this is illegal, it's something you have to do as a lawmaker.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Rather than defending President Yoon Suk Yeol, I stood against illegality

◇ Cho Won-jin: Yeah, so the impeachment prosecution itself is wrong, and the fact that the act of governance as a national president of experience is wrong itself is wrong. Maybe the 44 members of the National Assembly who were in front of the official residence were a little late, but anyway, they must have that perception. This is why the impeachment bill is so rapidly proceeding without public hearings and the resistance to this part of the rebellion that was in the candlelight is great.
◆ [Kim Woo-sung] You can see it like this. I see. If you look at the JoongAng Ilbo report right now, whether it's pro-yoon or non-yoon. There are various stories about Mul-ryun, Jin-yoon, and Maeng-ryun. Then, when the ruling party impeached President Park Geun Hye in the past, the ruling party was actually divided, divided, and divided, but now the people's power should not worry about that? How do I look

◇ Cho Won-jin: Eventually, there will be action by the party against some of the people who were leading the impeachment. I don't do anything about it and just bury it. That's probably because if the presidential election process has not been dismissed, for example, I'm sure there's a procedural flaw in the president's position that the impeachment prosecution should be dismissed. Let me make it clear, but we can't help but talk about the early presidential election. In that regard, there must be some punishment for those who violate the so-called party theory in order to organize the party and go to a single convention as one. That's how I see it

◆ Kim Woo-sung: He also talked about punishment for those who violated your party line. Rep. Lee Joon-seok of the New Reform Party said, "I will not protect President Yoon in a month from now." I said this, but based on the logic I mentioned earlier, it's a bit different

◇ Cho Won-jin: When I talk about lawmaker Lee Joon-seok, I keep thinking of lawmaker Jeong Cheong-rae when I see lawmaker Lee Joon-seok's face these days. I don't think I'm good at judging the situation. Look at the situation judgment now. If President Yoon Suk Yeol is arrested and the impeachment process is 180 days, I have to keep it for 6 months and 180 days. You have this position and there are a number of such processes, and then there came a situation where Yoon Suk Yeol's president was dismissed if not dismissed and impeachment was not dismissed. It's the presidential election. It's probably because Lee Jun-seok, the CEO of Gwanghwamun, makes this judgment after two months. It is right to go to Gwanghwamun and go to the pro-impeachment rally over there and compare the two sides and say what they think. Who agrees with Representative Lee Joon-seok now with the stance he has brought so far? I disagree.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: You said sharply that you can't judge the situation, but now, in a way, the early presidential election was the fastest, so I think the media is asking a lot of these remarks. As mentioned earlier, it is not known at this time whether this impeachment trial will be cited or rejected. There are many issues raised, and nevertheless, talks about early presidential elections are underway. First of all, the CEO is running for office.

◇ Cho Won-jin: I can't run. It's a probation period, so I fought in Gwanghwamun because I asked for the truth of the five people who died on March 10 at Gwanghwamun. Mayor Park Won-soon accused me and he died. Isn't it the case where President Moon Jae In took a picture of us at the Cabinet meeting and said that? But in the end, you're confident. In the end, if the presidential candidate is impeached this time, I think the entire liberal right should unite before the presidential election. Otherwise, we can't stop Lee Jae-myung from taking power. Conservative candidate, single candidate, liberal candidate, single candidate, united. Even now, the people are so strong that they will do it alone as they said five years ago. I'll do the same as I did seven years ago. It's all ruined in the end. However, there is a precondition that we should not do that and prevent representative Lee Jae-myung from taking power this time.

◇ Cho Won-jin: It's my position that people who share those preconditions should all come together so that Lee Jae-myung's country can never be a country. In that sense, we should listen to the people's self-reflection and public opinion more properly and prepare for the political situation after the impeachment. I can tell you this. Free

◆ [Kim Woo-sung] You mentioned unification through the grand unity of the right, and I wonder to what extent. Rep. Lee Joon-seok of the New Reform Party, who appeared earlier, and Rev. Chung Kwang-ho's Autonomous Unification Party.

◇ Cho Won-jin: I can go with all those who are in the position of preventing the so-called Democratic Party of Korea from taking power as one. That's what I think. I don't think CEO Lee Junseok will do it. CEO Lee Jun-seok is running for office, so is it a condition to run for office? It's not like someone applied to run for Lee Joon-seok and a small amount of money is being spent on the presidential election, but even the floor leader Heo Eun-ah is racketeering about the meaning of Lee Joon-seok, who can't coordinate with him.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Then if you could pick about three candidates who can lead the most likely unification,

◇ Cho Won-jin: Inside the People's Power, Mayor Hong Joon Pyo and Mayor Oh Se-hoon of Seoul are emerging, and these days, lawmaker Yoon Sang-hyun is surprisingly within the People's Power, and outside, Minister of Employment and Labor Kim Moon-soo is not a member of the People's Power Party. From that point of view, the public opinion outside seems to be roughly organized toward Minister Kim Moon-soo. Then, if the single candidate is not in the primary of the people's power or the primary of the outside candidate, whether Minister Kim Moon-soo enters the national power and races, I think it would be unfortunate to assume that there is an early presidential election, but assuming that there is an early presidential election, we can beat the current illegal activities of the Democratic Party of Korea, arrogance, and rude talk by loyalty competition. I'm looking at it like this.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, I heard about our Republican Party leader Cho Won-jin today. Thank you, CEO.