[News NIGHT] "Double Special Prosecutors Act" rejected the re-vote..."Lee Hwa-young's transcript." Wave.

■ Host: Anchor Sung Moon-gyu
■ Starring: Song Young-hoon, spokesman for the People's Power, Sung Chi-hoon, vice chairman of the Minjoo Party's Policy Committee

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[Anchor]
It's time for "Focus Night" to point out the news of political interest. Today, we will be joined by Song Young-hoon, spokesman for the People's Power, and Sung Chi-hoon, vice chairman of the Democratic Party's Policy Committee. Hello, both of you. Three contentious bills, including the Bilateral Special Prosecutors Act and the Local Currency Act, which Yoon Suk Yeol President vetoed, were rejected in today's re-vote and discarded. The reaction between the ruling and opposition parties was starkly different. I'll listen to it myself.

[Park Chan-dae / Minjoo Party floor leader: It is fair and common sense for any powerful person to be punished for committing a crime. We will continue to propose and pursue the Special Prosecutor's Act until it is passed and announced. ]

[Choo Kyung-ho / People's Power Floor Leader: The Democratic Party is a bulletproof team that protects Lee Jae-myung, but we are protecting the Republic of Korea from the destructive forces of the Constitution. I hope you will be with us in this line of protecting the country without any shaking. ]

[Anchor]
All 300 members of the National Assembly participated in the re-vote today. First of all, Kim Gun-hee's Special Prosecutor Act. There are 108 ruling party members, but 104 opposition members came out. We have four leave votes. How do you evaluate it within the power of the people?

[Song Young Hoon]
I don't know what they thought.Ma, as a whole, sees the case of Kim Gun-hee's independent counsel law divided into judicial, legislative and political aspects. I hope you understand like this. So apart from those areas that require an apology from the political aspect, it is still important in the legislative aspect to select a special prosecutor fairly and protect the nature of the special prosecutor system. Isn't the opposition party supposed to recommend the special prosecutor alone for the bill that was rejected this time? But this was voted on with the Marine Corps Special Prosecutor Act.
By the way, when representative Han Dong-hoon ran for the national convention, didn't the Marine Corps Special Prosecutor Act come up with a third party recommendation and a Supreme Court recommendation special prosecutor bill? However, the rejected bill was formally recommended by the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, but in fact, the opposition party had unlimited veto power and allowed the opposition to choose two more independent counsel candidates. So, I've been criticizing only the pattern as a third-party independent counsel law. However, if the opposition party agrees with the Kim Gun-hee independent counsel law, which has the right to recommend an independent counsel alone, wouldn't there be a reason to oppose the Marine Corps independent counsel law? As a logical consequence, I would like to tell you that the Kim Gun-hee Special Prosecutor Act had no choice but to oppose it at the party level.

[Anchor]
That's what I'm saying. If it was the opposite, wouldn't all 108 people have to oppose it? So I was interested in how many votes would be left. But what do you think about this?

[Song Young Hoon]
I don't know what they thought of voting like that individually, but in terms of the overall results, it was meaningful to signal that a political solution was needed as soon as possible on the Kim Gun-hee issue. In other words, by confirming that there is an active opinion expressed as a vote within the party, it is correct to oppose the special prosecution law in this case from a legislative perspective, but I think it was an opportunity to recognize the need for a faster solution from a political perspective.

[Anchor]
So, some people say that the unification, within the power of the people, and because the floor emphasized it, there was a crack in it.

[Sung Chi Hoon]
We're amazed by the results. Last year's arrest agreement for our party's leader Lee Jae-myung, when it was initially rejected, there were many invalid votes and abstentions. And then it was finally passed. I think the People's Power MPs voted to abstain or to leave the vote was such a message. Regarding the Special Prosecutor's Office for First Lady Kim Gun-hee, he said, "How will we endure it this time, but it is hard to endure it anymore. The reason why I interpret it like this is because I didn't actually do the filibuster when I passed the first pass. Although the cause was given various reasons, we think that there was certainly a voice within the people's power that there was a lack of logic to be able to bulletproof about the special law of Kim Gun-hee for 24 hours. That's why the Democratic Party will propose another independent counsel law. Even at that time, the special prosecution law recommended by the Democratic Party of Korea and the Democratic Party of Korea as it pleases, as spokesman Song said earlier. We can continue to use this logic, but in the end, we're talking about the need for something at the level of people's strength, right? In that sense, the Democratic Party is more strengthened, more strengthened, because the Democratic Party has nothing to strengthen when it comes to the way it recommends. What is the stronger independent counsel law we are talking about? If I include more of the suspicions related to Kim Gun-hee, which continue to intensify now, and the contents that are heading toward the truth, I may have more votes to leave the people's power next time. This time, if only eight votes are left, it will be passed, so I think some lawmakers who want to warn the people will also say, "Let's put up with it this time."

[Anchor]
You said you're going to reissue it next month, right?

[Sung Chi Hoon]
I understand that we will do it as quickly as possible.

[Anchor]
I see. Let's take a look at the situation again. You said that the four votes, which are expressed as leavers, demanded an early political expression, so should I say that it means an apology? How is the atmosphere now in the power of the people?

[Song Young Hoon]
First of all, there are several lawmakers who have publicly apologized. And I understand that other than those who have spoken publicly, there are more members of Congress who have said the need for such an apology in private. In any case, the matters related to Mrs. Kim Gun-hee clearly need measures that fit the nature, content and nature of the matter. Without it, there will be situations where people will continue to not understand something, so it can also be a burden on the legislative plane. The judicial plane is what the prosecution will do independently.The political and legislative planes can clearly influence and relate to each other. In this regard, there are certainly voices of those who say that political action is needed as soon as possible.

[Anchor]
So when will it be as soon as possible? Now, there is a story in the presidential office that seems to be coordinating the timing.

[Song Young Hoon]
Isn't there a case in which we are considered the standard when it comes to apples in the case of Vice Chairman Lee Jae-yong in 2015? When the MERS outbreak broke out at Samsung Medical Center, Vice Chairman Lee Jae-yong also used an apology as an example at the time, making him a talker so far, but at the same time, the timing of the apology has not been measured back and forth. I apologized properly at a very necessary time. I think the same is true of this issue. So if you say you'll wait until all of those things are over because it's in another investigation, it's not entirely reasonable, but it may be misunderstood as if the people are timing it. Then, there are such opinions within the party that it is appropriate to express your position as soon as possible without receiving such attention and then wait for the public's evaluation.

[Anchor]
The luxury bag case ended with no prosecution, but there are many predictions that there will probably be an apology after the alleged manipulation of Deutsche's stock price.

[Sung Chi Hoon]
Isn't that a prediction that Deutsche Motors stock manipulation allegations will also be prosecuted? I don't know if the people's power believes that it is appropriate to apologize or express regret after the non-prosecution because there is a non-prosecution, but some of them do. However, I would like to say that if that happens, the public's public sentiment will be worse than ever. There is also a justification that there is no provision for spouse punishment in case of Dior bag and luxury bag sorghum, but evidence is increasing in the case of Deutsche Motors stock price manipulation. There are objections to why Kim Gun-hee should be prosecuted only because there were 91 people in the state, but in fact, there are continuing to be such things that Kim Gun-hee was one of the key members of the BP family and Black Pearl Investment. According to the data released by the Korea Exchange on the manipulation of Deutsche Motors' stock price, it is considered an abnormal transaction if it is more than 5 percent, but there are many abnormal transactions that are more than 10 percent and nearly 20 percent on the date of Kim Gun-hee's involvement. That's why we are not prosecuted at a time when more such evidence is coming out, and by then, there may be some people who say that the public understands the luxury white sugar, but public opinion will be bad because they don't think they will agree there. I'd like to tell you.

[Anchor]
Regarding the apple part, both of you said that the sooner, the better. It's the next topic. There was a suspicion that Han Dong-hoon was the owner of the so-called attack. This wavelength is growing. If you attack then party leader candidate Han Dong-hoon, it was July. It contains the content that Mrs. Kim Gun-hee will like if she attacks. Let's listen to the call again.

[Kim Dae-nam / Former administrator: We need to do a general election poll for that 7 billion won. But two of them seem to have done some written research himself as a presidential candidate. How did you decide to become the president? You just have to do it like this, and the leader of the party has to play the role of the leader of the party on the contrary. Let's run for the presidential election. If you do that, you will be a person full of self-interest. Now we're going to go like this. Because of Mrs. Han Dong-hoon, it's really... They told me to die. Hey, if you plan it well this time and type (Han Dong-hoon) in Sound of Seoul, Mrs. Aju is your Lee Myung-soo. Hey, you'll like it because you put it in and out. ]

[Anchor]
A few days have passed, so a lot of people will know about it. That's why Han Dong-hoon suspected that the close circle is behind it now, and didn't CEO Han Dong-hoon order to find out the truth? Has a fact-finding team been set up, and what happened?

[Song Young Hoon]
We expect the ethics committee to hold its first meeting as early as early as the week. And then this fact-finding is absolutely necessary anyway. Regardless of the prediction about whether there is a background or not, I will not make such a prediction, but at the same time, I will have to get to the bottom of it thoroughly without any premise without sanctuary. Isn't there a famous Albert Camus saying that not condemning the past is to give courage to future crimes? To not investigate yesterday's political maneuvering is to give courage to tomorrow's political maneuvering. What we saw in the transcript is false. I know that the poll cost is not 7 billion won, and it's only about a quarter of it, and then CEO Han Dong-hoon didn't conduct an individual poll as a presidential candidate. This is what political commentators say in unison, which is often conducted to investigate the image of the party leader during the general election process. Because political parties are difficult for the general public to know exactly even the candidates for the general elections in individual districts. It's about forming an image by looking at the head of the party.In the last general election, there was such an effort to take the composition of the general election between President Yoon Suk Yeol and Representative Lee Jae-myung to Han Dong-hoon and Lee Jae-myung, so a kind of perception survey was conducted in parallel. This is something that needs to be decisively insulated from the conservative party, so a thorough investigation is necessary.

[Anchor]
Thorough fact-finding is needed. The presidential office says that he has no friendship with former administrator Kim, former administrator Kim Dae-nam, and the president's wife, and that he has to decide his own future. What do you think of this issue from the perspective of the opposition party?

[Sung Chi Hoon]
In fact, I don't think resigning will solve the problem. And at first, the presidential office said that they didn't know each other, but since more than three photos of former administrator Kim Dae-nam and the president came out, they turned out not to be close. I'd like to say that the explanation was twisted from the beginning. Well, former administrator Kim Dae-nam's alleged attack. I will first find out what happened in the power of the people through my own investigation, but we are strongly raising suspicions that we went to our current place as a price for the attack. Because so far, the place where former administrator Kim Dae-nam is located is a place that requires expertise. That's why, in fact, former public officials of the Ministry of Economy and Finance, former auditors, or former public officials usually go to audit positions in public institutions that receive that much annual salary. However, former administrator Kim Dae-nam was a senior administrator, and senior administrators have positions of 2nd and 3rd grades. However, I know that he was a third-level employee, and I've never seen a third-level employee in a position like that, a position with an annual salary of about 300 million, not only the Moon Jae In government, but also the progressive, conservative government that I know of. Then there must be a correlation. Therefore, I would like to say that it is not a problem for former administrator Kim Dae-nam to resign from his current position, but it is important to find out under what conditions and whose power he went to that position.

[Anchor]
First of all, the presidential office drew a strong line, but representative Han Dong-hoon is quite strong. They say a fact-finding investigation is needed even more, but there are also many voices criticizing the representative's response. Let's listen to related remarks.

[Han Dong-hoon / Representative of People's Power (3rd): You said that the president's office has nothing to do with Kim Dae-nam. I think so, too. That's why we have to get to the bottom of it and hold the person responsible accountable. ]

[Na Kyung-won / Member of the People's Power (CBS Radio 'Kim Hyun-jung's News Show'): We could do a fact-finding investigation, but why should we raise this issue as a big issue with the leader's wording? I think making this noise can be the act itself. ]

[Anchor]
CEO Han is continuing to demand a fact-finding investigation. So, since the presidential office said it had nothing to do with Kim Dae-nam, he thought he would do the same, so he said he needed a more fact-finding investigation. I just heard Na Kyung-won's recording. Were Na Kyung-won and former administrator Kim Dae-nam special advisors for Na Kyung-won at the last national convention? So I think Na Kyung-won told this story today, how did you hear it?

[Song Young Hoon]
Wasn't there a controversy over Na Kyung-won's intentionally protecting her because she was a special foreign schedule during her primary or canceling the fast-track prosecution during the party leadership race? I don't think you'll say that because you'll remain bitter about that. A politician with five terms of experience. But isn't there a saying that we bake our arms inside? That's why I'm a little worried because people may misunderstand that if you say that, your arms will be bent inward. So, in order not to hear that your arms are bent inward, you have to have a justification for criticism, but there are two things that the people don't think they will see. First of all, isn't it more of a corresponding act if you don't do anything and move on in this situation? It is said that it is the act of making noise, but if you quietly move on with such a political maneuver, it gives you an indulgence. I think it will be a corresponding act that shakes the foundation of the party. Then, you said this was noisy, but if the party calls for a thorough investigation in one voice, there is nothing noisy about it. However, because there are people who oppose this or consider it a problem, it is expressed as noisy.

[Anchor]
How many people are against it? Is it okay to divide it into closeness and pro-Yoon-gye?

[Song Young Hoon]
I don't think it's a matter of factionalism. I think there are some people who say that, but this requires a thorough investigation. If this is repeated in a conservative party, how would you criticize Kim Dae-up, Druking, ecological bath, Cheongdam-dong drinking party, and these smear operations by fake news later on? And if I add a little bit, Daegu Mayor Hong Joon Pyo appeared briefly in the graphic earlier.Ma said that it is not normal to give an inspection order because he criticizes him. But to say that, isn't there Ryu Yeo-hae, the former supreme council member who criticized Hong Joon Pyo as a macho who ignored women when he was the leader of the Liberty Korea Party in 2017? He was referred to the party's ethics committee in December 2017. He was even expelled by the ethics committee. Then, Mayor Hong should have actually stopped him from disciplining such a person when he was CEO. How embarrassing would we be if the opposition party discovered these things and criticized them? You're an old man in the party, so I'd like you to refrain from saying that.

[Sung Chi Hoon]
I think people who oppose the People's Power for a reason. Because why would former administrator Kim Dae-nam have done such a thing? I think we're talking about covering it up because we know not only the owner of the attack but also whose power they would have gone to such a position to some extent internally, so if we dig into it, it could end up being a crisis for the regime. That's why I think those who are asking to be quiet now know why former administrator Kim Dae-nam did that and who put former administrator Kim Dae-nam in that position. Then we have to reveal it even more. But it's hard to reveal. Because no matter how much the people conduct their own investigation, they don't have the authority to investigate, do they? Then, if former administrator Kim Dae-nam refuses, he cannot reveal it, and the president's office has no will to solve this problem. Because if someone is behind it, he will be in the presidential office, so he is not willing to reveal the truth of this, but I think the power of the people probably recognizes it.

[Anchor] Does Vice Chairman
think this is behind it?

[Sung Chi Hoon]
If you don't have someone behind you, you can't get to that position, as I said earlier. To go to that position means that someone used their strength, and I can't reveal it because it seems likely that someone would have given them something like an attacker or a sauce in return for their strength, but from common sense, there is clearly such resistance, and I don't think there is a single person who just volunteered to go to that position.

[Anchor]
The fact-finding team said the activity will begin next week. I'll go and see the progress then. And this time, there is a controversy over the intervention of the nomination. Part of the controversial Telegram conversation that Myung Tae-kyun had with First Lady Kim Gun-hee was released. It was about asking former lawmaker Kim Young-sun, who decided to move his district from Changwon to Gimhae Gap ahead of this year's general election, to give him a single nomination. That's a graphic version of the contents of Telegram. How did you like it?

[Song Young-hoon]
First of all, I am worried that it will be difficult for the people to understand this conversation easily. So, the Telegram conversation is not a conversation with the ruling party leadership or those who directly decide the nomination, but it does not mean that we should give nominations to anyone, but it seems to be an expression of an individual's opinion. Also, didn't former lawmaker Kim Young-sun actually get cut off? So it's hard to say that the text directly influenced the nomination.Nevertheless, I don't think we should have said anything that could cause misunderstanding because it seems that the people's eyes are questioning why the president's spouse should talk about such a conversation with someone who is not even known.

[Anchor]
You shouldn't have done anything misleading. So, to summarize the contents for a moment, Myung Tae-kyun should nominate Kim Young-sun as a single candidate. It's not a single nomination, but it's unlikely that we can run in the primary, it's definitely going to drop. So I like Kim Gun-hee's single nomination. But the primary is the principle. That's what it's about.

[Sung Chi Hoon]
We had such a conversation. So when that conversation came out, the people's power did not end up nominating candidates. It may be a problem in itself to have such a private conversation, but there is no legal problem. In the end, it was the nomination for the by-elections in 22 years that came out with the nomination in 24. Then, the reason why Myung Tae-kyun is being investigated over the Political Fund Act is that he always received half of former lawmaker Kim Young-sun's salary every month after the by-elections in 2022, so why did he give half of it? Myung Tae-kyun would have given a boost to the nomination. How would Myung Tae-kyun, who is not in charge of any political party, have used his strength? Until now, there have been continuous suspicions that the relationship with First Lady Kim Gun-hee or President Yoon Suk Yeol may have made them work because of this friendship, but since the suspicion about 24 years of Telegram turned out to have been a conversation anyway, I would like to say that the suspicion about 22 years is becoming more and more real.

[Anchor]
We didn't get nominated in the 24th general election anyway, and as a result, we need to provide more detailed evidence about the situation in which we won the nomination in the 22nd by-elections. That's what you mean. In this situation, when he met President Yoon in the political circle, he and President Yoon met together, and there was also a statement that Myung Tae-kyun was with him. This is what CEO Lee Jun-seok said. Let's listen to it.

[Lee Joon-seok / Rep. of the New Reform Party (CBS Radio 'Kim Hyun-jung's News Show' on the 3rd): (Myeong Tae-kyun arranged it in the middle, contacted and a third meeting was held. He confirmed it, and I didn't remember anything, but the name was before he became president at that time, but the former president Yoon calls him Dr. Myung anyway. So in general, we can just know that it's a relationship that we've known before and that it's a relationship that treats us to some extent. And Mrs. Kim Geon-hee uses the name 'teacher' at that time. . To the best of my knowledge, Mrs. Kim Geon-hee uses that name often. So, rather than calling the president Myung Tae-kyun a special name, I've seen the teacher call the people who help them.... ]

[Anchor]
Myung Tae-kyun arranged when he met President Yoon. However, President Yoon called Dr. Myung Myung Tae-kyun, and First Lady Kim Gun-hee called him a teacher. That's why it's interpreted as a pretty close relationship.

[Song Young Hoon]
I don't know firsthand whether or not they were close and how close they were before they were actually elected president. However, lawmaker Lee Joon-seok's remarks are a little far from the nature of the issue. The important thing is that after becoming a presidential spouse, what kind of words and actions were difficult for the people to understand during the presidential term, and there are people who are close to each other before becoming president. It's not the essence in itself. On the contrary, Rep. Lee Joon-seok said, "Hasn't the night of Chilbulsa become an issue?" There were many questions about why lawmaker Cheon Ha-ram planted red plum blossoms and lawmaker Lee Joon-seok was watching it again in front of Myung Tae-kyun at 4 a.m., but it has not been resolved. In such a situation, there are aspects that I think he even brought up that kind of story to draw attention to himself.

[Sung Chi Hoon]
I'm a bit of a different councillor. I think it's a very decisive story that lawmaker Lee Joon-seok said that. Because it has now been revealed that Myung Tae-kyun was the one who was present when he met with the People's Power Party leader before joining the party, and what we have revealed before was that Myung Tae-kyun went out as a unified channel in the process of unifying with then-candidate Ahn Cheol Soo, hasn't it been revealed before? In view of that, and in view of the circumstances, Myung Tae-kyun watched the inauguration ceremony in a really good place at the inauguration ceremony of the president, and in view of these circumstances, who would have been able to nominate former lawmaker Kim Young-sun with the support of Myung Tae-kyun in the nomination of the 22-year-old by-elections mentioned earlier? It's because the flow is connected up to here. That's why I don't know what Rep. Lee Joon-seok said since then, I don't know if Myung Tae-kyun is quite close to the Yoon Suk Yeol President and his wife.Ma is still quite trusting if he is present when he goes to meet the party leader, right? I think that Lee Joon-seok told a pretty important story at that point.

[Anchor]
I see. Let's stop here. This time, let's go to the opposition party and the Democratic Party. On the 2nd, that is, the transcripts of former Vice Governor of Peace Lee Hwa-young and Gyeonggi-do Province Governor of Peace, which were released at the prosecutor's impeachment hearing two days ago, are growing. In July last year, former lieutenant governor Lee Hwa-young talked with his lawyer. Let's listen to the recording first.

[Kim Hyung-tae / Then lawyer Lee Hwa-young (July last year): Lobbled the court, paid for the lawyer]

[Lee Hwa-young / Former Gyeonggi-do Governor for Peace (July last year): Yes, yes, some specific amounts are coming out, and we have donated money to Governor Lee…. I'm actually very scared right now. Rather than that, Kim Sung-tae is more willing to reveal it. More, more volatile. " "You must never say it. He helped Governor Lee Jae-myung in his trial. We managed the organization of this branch, right? It's called a square.... ]

[Anchor]
It was a prosecution hearing held by the Democratic Party. There, Joo Jin-woo, a member of the People's Power, made a counterattack with this recording. A conversation between Lee Hwa-young, the former lieutenant governor, and his lawyer. Suspicions of political funding, payment of lawyers' expenses, and lobbying to the court also emerged.

[Song Young Hoon]
That's right. There are a lot of shocking things. First of all, Lee Hwa-young told her lawyer that you shouldn't tell her these things, and she said there was a fact that Kim Sung-tae knew, and even expressed that she was very afraid. What things did you mention, lawyer fees, not guilty court lobbying, then political funds. It's called political funds, but it's actually the possibility of illegal political funds.

[Anchor]
What are all three of them? Can you please organize it? in connection with the alleged payment of attorney's fees

[Song Young Hoon]
First of all, the suspicion of paying the attorney's fee was not prosecuted in September 2022 only related to the Public Official Election Act. So, isn't there a case of Lee Jae-myung's false announcement regarding the election for governor of Gyeonggi-do Province? During the election law trial, a specific lawyer received 300 million won and 2 billion won worth of shares for the lawyer's fee. The stock is suspected of receiving such double bubble stocks that can be sold in three years, but CEO Lee Jae-myung said...

[Anchor]
You were not prosecuted for lack of evidence, right?

[Song Young Hoon]
He claimed to have spent a total of 200 million won on lawyers' expenses and was accused of publicizing false information for the purpose of election. But as you know of the election law, the statute of limitations is 6 months, right? I couldn't reveal the contents within six months, so I disposed of it for lack of evidence, and now there is a possibility that I received it as a convertible bond or something like that, so that part has not actually been concluded. Then, the court lobby was newly raised this time, and in fact, when the Supreme Court overturned Lee Jae-myung's case in 2020, the logic was quite unnatural, so there was a lot of criticism in the legal world. So, it's a TV debate under the election law, and if you give a false answer in that debate, you won't see it as a false announcement, right? However, in a way, the debate has the nature of holding heavier responsibility for the announcement of false information. So, even at that time, there were criticisms that the precedent and the Supreme Court ruling were very unnatural, but wasn't this led by Justice Kwon Soon-il? But later, the name of the Daejang-dong 5 billion club was raised. So, we talked about the special prosecutor in the beginning.In December last year, there was a 5 billion club in Daejang-dong in the Special Prosecutor Act, which the Democratic Party of Korea passed together as a so-called double special prosecutor. But the Democratic Party will never propose it again after it has been requested for reconsideration. And regarding Supreme Court Justice Kwon Soon-il, the National Assembly Judiciary Committee recently tried to adopt witnesses, but in the end, they couldn't. So, I think it is necessary to answer why the opposition party suddenly does not propose the independent counsel law and does so without calling Supreme Court Justice Kwon Soon-il.

[Anchor]
People's Power Today, representative Lee Jae-myung, former lieutenant governor Lee Hwa-young, and former chairman Kim Sung-tae said they will file a complaint next week regarding the violation of the Political Fund Act, right?

[Song Young Hoon]
That's right. We will file a complaint about the allegations in this transcript as early as early as next week. We are reviewing the contents and legal principles of the accusation, but as you said, hasn't there been a very sensitive content related to political funds? It was an outside organization of representative Lee Jae-myung during the last presidential election called Democratic Peace Square. But originally, it was a former Prime Minister Lee Hae-chan's think tank called Square. It is a form that has been inherited and developed through the foundation. Chairman Kim Sung-tae paid for it, and such contents appear in the transcript. At the same time, Lee Hwa-young mentioned this in her own words, so this also seems to be an issue that needs to be investigated.

[Anchor]
That's what I'm saying.

[Sung Chi Hoon]
First of all, this transcript was provided by Lee Hwa-young at the appeal trial. So, if the transcript contained anything against Lee Jae-myung or former lieutenant governor Lee Hwa-young, would they have submitted this as additional evidence? Therefore, the former deputy governor Lee Hwa-young's argument should be heard in full now. That part is claiming that Kim Sung-tae has threatened to speak like that, according to former Deputy Governor Lee Hwa-young. However, it is difficult for me to give my personal opinion because I haven't seen the full recording, but given the media reports and things like this, one of the contents in the full recording is that the prosecution cajoled former lieutenant governor Lee Hwa-young, and he threatened her by telling her how she pressured her and her family. And there are already a couple of statement seminars and statement seminars where the suspects agree, claiming that these related contents are included in the full transcript. That's why former Deputy Governor Lee Hwa-young argues that some of the contents that Representative Joo Jin-woo played in the conference room contain actually distorted contents of the entire transcript, so I think it's difficult to judge this by looking at the entire transcript.

[Anchor]
The recording was quite volatile because it seems that the former lieutenant governor Lee Hwa-young has a fact, among Kim Sung-tae's. That part is very frightening.

[Sung Chi Hoon]
Even in my opinion, how should this be explained, and can this be explained in the context of the before and after? I still have doubts. Because I didn't see the full recording either. But I personally think that I might have considered all that and submitted it.

[Song Young Hoon]
To give you a brief word, one of Lee Hwa-young's lawyers is an incumbent Gyeonggi-do lawmaker of the Democratic Party. Then if the Democratic Party is really confident with the recording, that is, if it's not legally a problem. What is the meaning of if this legal problem is not possible is that Lee Hwa-young made such a claim in court because it was a controversy over the Hoeun-i drinking court, but didn't the court reject it and sentence it for nine and a half years? Then, in some cases, when a recording file in which such claims are repeated is released, the prosecutor may be defamed for false information. If you're really confident in that, I hope the Democratic Party will release the entire recorded file. Listen to the people and make a judgment. Now CEO Lee Jae-myung is sharing the entire recorded file on his SNS regarding his perjury teacher and telling the people to judge him. Then, if you're really confident, the Democratic Party can release the entire recorded file.

[Anchor]
I see. Let's stop listening to the two of you today. Song Young-hoon, spokesman for the People's Power, and Sung Chi-hoon, vice chairman of the Democratic Party's Policy Committee. Thank you.