[YTN Radio News Fighting Bae Seunghee]
□ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (07:15 - 09:00)
□ Broadcast date and time: October 25, 2024 (Fri)
□ Host: Attorney Bae Seung-hee
□ Cast: Park Joo-min, member of the Democratic Party of Korea
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◆ Attorney Bae Seung-hee (hereinafter referred to as Bae Seung-hee): I'm Bae Seung-hee on my way to work. The third part starts. The ruling and opposition parties' political consultative body, which discusses the resolution of the legislative conflict, is expected to take the first step after twists and turns. In this regard, let's connect Park Joo-min of the Democratic Party of Korea, chairman of the National Assembly's Health and Welfare Committee and chairman of the Democratic Party's Special Committee on Medical Disruption. Hello
◇Rep. Park Joo-min of the Democratic Party of Korea (hereinafter referred to as Park Joo-min): Yes, hello.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: The parliamentary audit has been completed, weren't you tired?
◇Park Joo-min: I don't know. It's hard every time for a parliamentary audit. This time, I held my first parliamentary audit as chairman.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: How was it?
◇Park Joo-min: One of the things I have to do as chairman of the committee is to sit for a long time, but it was physically very difficult.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. Still, the welfare committee has not experienced a single disruption. Isn't it a good MC?
◇Park Joo-min: There was a crisis. I think I did a good job until the end while pushing it well.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: But actually elsewhere. There were quite a lot of orders issued for accompanying this time. What is the reason why there were so many orders issued?
◇Park Joo-min: First of all, the first thing we can hear. I think it would be good to think that there were many issues that the government or government officials had to call to the National Assembly to hear. Our welfare committee also asked several people to attend regarding the COVID-19 self-diagnosis kit, which was unclear in the licensing process, but it didn't work, so we even thought about issuing an order to accompany them. So there were a lot of people who needed to sing and come out. I think you can think of it like that.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Okay. Some members of the medical community expressed their intention to participate in the ruling and opposition legislative council promoted by the people's power. Medical students and medical students are still refusing to participate, and it is difficult for Jin Seong-joon, chairman of the policy committee, to participate at the moment. That's how I expressed my position. Then, can this be implemented by the ruling and opposition legislative council?
◇Park Joo-min: First of all, I want to correct it. It was the Democratic Party of Korea that first proposed the ruling and opposition legislative council. Not only Park Chan-dae, the floor leader, but our welfare committee first proposed it, and at the beginning, we said to use the framework of the Special Committee on Medical Reform, which is established under the President in the case of people's power or the government. Right. We kept persuading them to bring them to the National Assembly, and the ruling and opposition parties and the legislature proposed to discuss it together, and the people's power accepted part of it. In that situation, the most important thing for the government and the ruling party to launch a parliamentary consultative body between the ruling and opposition parties is to participate, but they couldn't create conditions for it to participate. As you know, the U.S. has continued to insist that the number of medical schools increased in 25 years should be on the table, but the people's power and the government have continued to oppose it, and even though CEO Han Dong-hoon recently said, let's talk about the number of students in 25, the government still cannot talk about 25 years, right? As a result, it didn't work anymore. So we kept asking the government and the ruling party to come with a consensus position, but it didn't work, and as the situation continues to be boring, some of the medical organizations can now participate by asking us to open it up and talk about it. This is how we expressed our intention. But you have to read the statement. If you read the statement, you still have to discuss the first requirement, which is the increase in the capacity of 25 years. This is the first requirement. Next, we must accept the leave of absence of medical students. Universities should be able to make their own judgments autonomously. I put this up, too. But I asked the Minister of Health and Welfare during the audit. When I asked him what he thought of the 2015 quota discussion, he said he could hear it, but there is no possibility of change. I cut it like this. And when I asked him what he thought of taking a leave of absence, he told me the guidelines that the Ministry of Education has. The guidelines given by the Ministry of Education are the principle that students should not accept leave of absence. So, in fact, none of the preconditions that the medical community declared, but said they could participate, are now accepted by the government. That's why we have to continue to talk about these conditions so that the government can take a more flexible position, and at the same time, we still have to persuade the key members of the ruling and opposition legislative council.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Is that why it's difficult for the Democratic Party to participate?
◇Park Joo-min: That's why we have to create such situations as I said earlier.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: But what doctors are asking for and the question of taking a leave of absence for medical students, the question of taking a leave of absence for the garden, which you mentioned, is a very big difference in opinion right now. If you don't bring it to the discussion table, you won't participate, and if you bring it again, the government's position will be embarrassed. What will happen?
◇Park Joo-min: No, that's why we constantly ask the government to be more flexible. At least we can put it on the discussion table. Can't we talk about it? But that attitude change hasn't come out yet, and on the one hand, the government and the ruling party continue to talk, and on the other hand, we continue to meet the medical profession and communicate with the medical doctor. Let's discuss it, and for the time being, our party believes that it is more important to make these efforts.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. Senator, but in reality, isn't it difficult to raise the 25-year quota to the discussion table because the entrance examination is already underway?
◇Park Joo-min: So far, even the doctors and the people who said they could come to the table as I mentioned earlier are still saying that we need to put a 25-year-old quota on the table. Aside from the realistic possibilities, then we should put them on the discussion table first.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Put it up first and whether it's concluded or not
◇Park Joo-min: Can't we talk about it? But you're saying you can't do this. Now the government is
◆ Bae Seung-hee: The difference in entrance still seems a little big. I see. Let's wrap this up. The second meeting between representatives of the ruling and opposition parties, Han Dong-hoon and Lee Jae-myung, was held. The Democratic Party of Korea seems to be also talking about the Special Prosecutor Act of Kim Gun-hee, which is a third-party recommendation method. CEO Han Dong-hoon is talking about a special inspector. What's your position?
◇Park Joo-min: The special inspection team and such are actually the pledges of President Yoon Suk Yeol. So I don't think there's much to talk about right now. Then, as long as the government is conscious, isn't it possible to do it as much as you want? So, even if it becomes an issue in my opinion, it has no choice but to become a minor issue. Of course, they said they'd do it, so you can do it now. In the case of the independent counsel law, I don't know exactly what was said during the Yoon Han interview, but according to the report, if the independent counsel continues to be pursued, it will be difficult to stop it at this state. The fact that representative Han Dong-hoon is doing so seems to be that various opinions are being released even within the power of the people. As for the special prosecutor, we can talk about that with Uri.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: The Democratic Party of Korea is pushing for a plan to vote on the third Kim Gun-hee independent counsel law at the plenary session on the 14th of next month. Coincidentally, isn't there Kim Hye-kyung's ruling this month and Lee Jae-myung's first trial sentence the next day? Regarding this, the people's power criticized Lee Jae-myung's plan to dilute the judicial risk. You're laughing. What do you think?
◇Park Joo-min: What does it have to do with pushing for the so-called Special Prosecutor Kim Gun-hee and the court ruling? What does this have to do with the court ruling on our representative and the special prosecutor Kim Gun-hee for almost two years? These days, people say that everything is bulletproof to pass any law, but I'm sure there's a public demand that Kim Gun-hee is the special prosecutor, but isn't the government and the ruling party that are blocking Kim Gun-hee more problematic?
◆ Bae Seung-hee: You said it was a problem, but isn't CEO Han Dong-hoon also continuing to talk about the special inspector besides the Special Prosecutor Act? But if the ruling and opposition parties recommend candidates, they will appoint the president's office again. It's in this position. Is there any room for Democrats to agree on this special inspector?
◇Park Joo-min: No. We've always said this. I've been told to do a special inspection team. On our part, I'm not the leadership, but I was the former floor leader, but in the case of senior floor leadership, we can do Stance. He said, "Let's proceed." But if you didn't speed up or make the story go in easily, you can think of who it is.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: This is now connected to the North Korean human rights director. This is why it is known that the issue of recommending moving is also included. What do you think?
◇Park Joo-min: The previous floor leadership talked about everything, including such issues.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: So you're saying you didn't receive it from the power of the people?
◇Park Joo-min: No, so the actual discussion itself didn't go well.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: So if we discuss it from the power of the people and push for a special inspection team, is the Democratic Party willing to recommend it?
◇Park Ju-min: So it's hard to say that the current leadership is like this because it's not me, but I don't think it's particularly different because the previous leadership had that judgment.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: So we'll go to a situation where we can do a special inspector?
◇Park Joo-min: In fact, shouldn't the special inspection team have done it with a will if President Yoon Suk Yeol wanted to do it?
◆ Bae Seung-hee: You can do it with the will of the president. That's what you're talking about. CEO Han Dong-hoon also said, "The Kim issue should be resolved 15 days before Lee Jae-myung's first trial sentence. That's what I said. How do you rate this response?
◇Park Joo-min: I think this way. As I said earlier, the degree of dissatisfaction among the people is quite strong and high. You won't feel it just because you're members of the People's Power? I don't think so. I think you'll feel the same pressure and pressure. That's why various voices are coming out right now. In that situation, I think you want to say that you have to do something to avoid making such a situation as the leader of the ruling party, so the special inspector is saying this. However, it means that most of them were rejected because they had already made three demands during the interview. Such a request will not be made well, and CEO Han Dong-hoon will think of a different way.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: What other ways are there?
◇Park Joo-min: As a result, I think it will be the special prosecutor's side.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Then, aren't you planning to push for the Special Prosecutor's Act on the 14th? We're going to vote, but will there be a lot of people's power lawmakers participating in this? Positively
◇Park Joo-min: If there is no change in the presidential office as it is now, I think a lot of people can show different attitudes than before.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: There will be more leave votes.
◇Park Joo-min: I think so.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: What percentage do you watch?
◇Park Joo-min: I don't know. I haven't been able to contact a lot yet, but when I meet some lawmakers recently, they say they are taking the situation very seriously. People's Power lawmakers, so if there is no change in such a situation, there is room for other decisions or other judgments.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: There was a meeting of close-knit lawmakers. Since there are about 20 people, didn't a dinner come out like this? Will it probably come back to that level?
◇Park Joo-min: I don't think it's that bad. It's not that bad, but some of the lawmakers who didn't show that attitude before actually use such expressions as critical points for me and expressions like "I'm on the verge of an explosion." I told the president's office about various things, but there's no change. It's not going to change unless you do something strong. I think you have more and more of these perceptions.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. But you're saying that there will be more leave votes than last time.
◇Park Joo-min: I think a lot will come out. And whether we try to talk about it or persuade individually, wouldn't we do these things? If it's combined with that part, there might be more votes to leave.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Okay. Let's move on to the next question. Now, some of the Democratic Party's supporters are campaigning to impeach the judge, and the party leadership has sent a message urging them to refrain. First of all, what do you think of impeaching the judge?
◇Park Joo-min: Well, you can express your opinion from various perspectives and various concerns. In fact, isn't it a democratic society and a society where diversity is recognized? That part, but maybe from the leadership's point of view, let's go with respect to the judiciary rather than at the party level.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: But there was some criticism during the parliamentary audit, but since there was talk of impeaching the judge, there was also a question of who would be a judge if this were the case. I think these parts can be felt as pressure on the judiciary. How do you rate it?
◇Park Joo-min: But you know better than me because you're a lawyer, but isn't the impeachment system for judges stipulated in the constitution? And in fact, there are quite a few impeachment of judges in other countries like Japan. In a way, the case guarantees independence and controls such independence. The impeachment system was established for national control. In fact, it is the most normal to keep the Constitution and the law in balance, so I don't think you need to keep thinking about impeachment itself as too bizarre or too weird. So, conversation and discussion judgment are all premised, so if the process proceeds, it will proceed. Just by saying the impeachment system itself or something like that, it's something disrespectful and impossible, and if you think about it like this, the meaning of having such a system in the Constitution could be completely eliminated, right?
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Isn't it impossible to impeach him by misjudging the ruling?
◇Park Joo-min: That's right. Of course, it should be the reason for impeachment.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: You mean that if you made a wrong ruling, it could be a reason for impeachment.
◇Park Joo-min: I'm not saying let's impeach just because I made a mistake in the judgment, but the reason for impeachment is specified.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: You mean you can do it. I see. The Democratic Party of Korea launched its ruling plan headquarters on the 23rd. I wonder what this organization means. There are many interpretations of whether it is preparing for the next government or to increase the control of Chairman Lee Jae-myung within the party, so please tell us.
◇Park Joo-min: Our party also came to power several times. One of the things I felt every time I came to power was that I had a lot of regrets about the preparation of policies. And of course, we have no choice but to think and plan for the next government. Isn't a political party itself a group aimed at bringing power? So, I think it was made to meet the needs and demands of the past that we need to prepare to resolve such regrets and run a country better.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: It also means that the time is a little early.
◇Park Joo-min: But the truth is, even if you ask us to prepare one policy properly, we can't make it several months, right? In the case of very complex and difficult policies, it is necessary to take a longer period of time. In particular, what we feel is that the time has come for a big change in the social structure. Any global changes that our society has been going through recently are very big. So I'm thinking that I have to put a lot of effort and time into creating policies that correspond to those things.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Thank you for listening calmly today. Thank you for your interview even though you're busy.
◇Park Joo-min: Yes, thank you.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: I was Park Joo-min of the Democratic Party of Korea. Thank you.
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