Hannam-dong line vs Dogok-dong line...What are the variables of Yoon and Han's "single interview"?

■ Host: Kim Sun-young Anchor
■ Starring: Rep. Jeon Yong-ki of the Democratic Party of Korea, Professor Kim Geun-sik of Kyungnam University

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[Anchor]
Political commentary with a living angle, let's start at the minute. We have two people here today. Professor Kim Geun-sik of Kyungnam University and Jeon Yong-ki of the Democratic Party of Korea are here. Welcome. Let's check the content of the first keyword. Please show us. Dogok-dong 7-member association, Kwon Sung-dong, mentioned this word on social media when he shot his close circle. Professor Kim Geun-sik, Dogok-dong seems to be where Han Dong-hoon lives, is there a 7-person meeting there?

[Keunsik Kim]
So, while Rep. Kwon Sung-dong is exchanging disputes with representative Han Dong-hoon, isn't there a story of seven new officials in the so-called Kim Gun-hee line? Therefore, in the process of refuting, I think the name was probably called the Seven-member Association, referring to CEO Han Dong-hoon's meeting with his aides near Dogok-dong. Yesterday, the party issued an official statement, and the Dogok-dong Seven-member Association expressed serious regret because there was no basis for it. Today, not only representative Han Dong-hoon but also the leadership officially denied that there is a seven-member association.

So, this situation is what representative Han Dong-hoon has recently made in the process of continuing to raise the level of Kim Gun-hee's risk, and he is expected to make a request for that part ahead of his solo meeting with the president, and it seems to be a story that Rep. Kwon Sung-dong, the so-called leader of the pro-yoon faction, criticized representative Han Dong-hoon and exchanged battles with each other.

[Anchor]
As you can see, the party leader's office has made a position. "It's a lie that doesn't exist," he refuted, but I don't know if lawmaker Kwon Sung-dong has a list of seven members in Dogok-dong.Anyway, I think it's about changing the personnel first, not the president's office, but the aides of representative Han Dong-hoon.

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That's right. So, Yoon Han-gal was the basis, and more pro-Yoon groups participated in the war. That's how I see it. In the end, the presidential office continued to demand improvement, and even First Lady Kim Gun-hee said, "We should take care of ourselves." As a result, he was forced to show his uncomfortable expression in pro-Yoon, and representative Han Dong-hoon himself is more problematic than the presidential office. Now, it is evaluated that the leadership of the people's power came out with an uncomfortable expression that it is more problematic.

[Anchor]
We're close in a situation where Yoon Han-gal is getting worse, Supreme Council member Kim Jong-hyuk said this on the radio this morning. Let's listen to it. Representative Han Dong-hoon, who is openly targeting the president's office, criticized the pro-Yoon community, saying, "Isn't this too much of a conflict or is highlighting?" This is a common criticism from the pro-Yoon community, but Supreme Council member Kim Jong-hyuk seems to have criticized this as cowardly.

[Keunsik Kim]
Rep. Kwon Sung-dong has stepped up every day, and representative Han Dong-hoon needs to say this publicly ahead of his solo meeting. We can coordinate it behind the scenes and meet with the president to solve it. And while talking openly, he has been criticizing himself like, "Isn't he collecting taxes and doing his own politics?" It can be said that he is probably the closest aide to CEO Han Dong-hoon to this criticism from the pro-Yoon-gye. Supreme Council member Kim Jong-hyuk was on the radio like that today, but I can understand some members of the pro-Yoon community, including Rep. Kwon Sung-dong, criticized Han Dong-hoon's request for a private meeting and openly demanding what the president would ask for when he had a private meeting. It makes sense that in order for the criticism to be the right criticism, to be the right criticism, there are frequent meetings between the president and the ruling party leader, and if there is trust and communication is desired. So, you can have a private meeting anytime, and whenever you want to go to your official residence on the weekend, eat together, solve the problem, and make a phone call. No matter how smooth communication based on trust between each other is possible, whether it is a meal, tea, or a phone call, there is no need to talk to the media if the president and the ruling party leader are in a favorable relationship. But what is the relationship between current representative Han Dong-hoon and President Yoon Suk Yeol?

As the people know, it's actually been cut off. Even before the election of the party leader, when he was the emergency committee chairman, he talked about Diorback from the public's perspective, so he didn't even do it himself and sent the chief of staff to quit, which is actually a broken trust relationship. And even after he was elected as the party leader, he didn't call the party leader separately and invited all the candidates who ran for the party leader. And since the new leadership is meeting, this is also a story of legislative conflict, so after one postponement, about 25 people met and talked. That's why it's a difficult relationship to have a private meeting, and it's not a situation where you can solve the problem by talking behind the scenes, so I think this kind of criticism about whether the two can communicate in the old way, including Rep. Kwon Sung-dong, and keep disclosing it, doesn't reflect the current situation at all.

[Anchor]
Dogok-dong 7-member club and Hannam-dong 7-member club went to and from each other. Rep. Kwon Sung-dong's logic is this. Even if you look at the existing government, when the conflict between the party and the government was severe, it eventually went to impeachment. The government is doomed. Do you think this is a persuasive argument that says, "We should use this as a teacher on the other hand?"

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I think it will be convincing enough to express their sense of crisis. Because the relationship with the political party and the ruling party is not good and the conversation is not possible, isn't it possible to say that it is not possible to talk to the whole people? Of course it won't be a story with the Democratic Party. Rep. Kwon Sung-dong's story is convincing because if such parts are continuously highlighted by the public, they can flow into pictures they do not want. I think you can see it like this. I agree with Professor Kim Geun-sik's words in part because CEO Han Dong-hoon was not good at anything. Basically, the government's ruling party and the government should have a trust relationship, but they have continuously chosen to openly play media requests that can make the president uncomfortable. Whether this works or not, it is supposed to go through an internal deliberation process, but CEO Han Dong-hoon talked about everything to the media and reported it to the public in detail, so the government and the presidential office must have shown a very uncomfortable expression. This came out only as a projection of Rep. Kwon Seong-dong, that's what I see.

[Anchor]
Anyway, CEO Han Dong-hoon also refuted it right away. He refuted Representative Kwon Sung-dong, saying, "Wasn't he the one who took the lead in impeaching former President Park Geun Hye?"

[Keunsik Kim]
Rep. Kwon Sung-dong expresses this concern that if the conflict between the ruling party and the ruling party continues to grow on behalf of the pro-Yoon-gye and the head of the ruling party sets an angle with the president, it will eventually be divided and that division is the way to impeachment. There may be such concerns in some parts of our party. Because there is a dark history of the impeachment of President Park Geun Hye and there is a trauma, so there is anxiety that it could be destroyed while fighting. Regarding Kwon Sung-dong's questioning, Han Dong-hoon said, "Isn't Kwon Sung-dong the person who took the lead in the impeachment?" I don't think representative Han Dong-hoon had to say that to lawmaker Kwon Sung-dong. So, I criticized lawmaker Kwon Sung-dong's messenger when I answered reporters' questions, but in fact, lawmaker Kwon Sung-dong left the party during the state affairs manipulation scandal and joined the Bareun Party, and he was the chairman of the judiciary committee at the time. So I had a job as a plaintiff for the president of Park Geun Hye. That's why CEO Han Dong-hoon recalled such memories of the past. Rather than such an attack, I should say that I have no choice but to do it because the relationship between the president and representative Han Dong-hoon is not normal.

And I think it's irresponsible to ask to follow the president's will now because it's good and there are two and a half years left. Because even after the president's crushing defeat in the general election, he is going instead of changing his state administration stance by reflecting the will of the people, so it is the ruling party leader's job to persuade him as soon as possible and make a change so that the president can come to his senses for the rest of his term and make a foundation for his party's approval rating, the president's approval rating, and winning the next election. From such a principled point of view, I think the representative has a huge role to play in reflecting the public sentiment and persuading the president and changing the president.

[Anchor]
First of all, as scheduled, we're meeting next week. President Yoon Suk Yeol and representative Han Dong-hoon meet, and there seem to be various views on whether the meeting goes to the process of reconciliation or separation. Former chief Choi Jae-sung looks at it like this. Let's listen to it. [Anchor] There may be many perspectives, but if you look at CEO Han Dong-hoon's words, it seems that this is not a step toward reconciliation. How did you see it?

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I also agree that it's a process of breaking up. In fact, if there's a river for reconciliation, I think that's a lot more than that. From there, President Yoon Suk Yeol touched on the problem of First Lady Kim Gun-hee, who is most uncomfortable, so I think the farewell train will proceed faster. Looking at the relationship between President Yoon Suk Yeol and Representative Han Dong-hoon in the past, it is understandable. Since President Yoon Suk Yeol was his superior and subordinate representative Han Dong-hoon, President Yoon Suk Yeol seems to have a position that he still wants to follow his position. However, CEO Han Dong-hoon also has to do his own politics now. And if you look at the president of Yoon Suk Yeol, the presidential office of Yoon Suk Yeol, and the government, you are in front of a sense of crisis that if you follow it like this, you can be ruined, so you are speaking out, and these points seem to be eating away each other's relationship and are showing a lot of signs of separation. That's what I'm evaluating.

[Anchor]
Let's meet next week and talk, make up, shake hands, and do well. This would be the best picture, but given the words that CEO Han Dong-hoon is bringing up now, for example, Kim Gun-hee's line, it seems that there is little possibility of that.

[Keunsik Kim]
I think the solo interview scheduled for early next week is a step that must be taken anyway. However, this solo meeting may serve as an opportunity for dramatic reconciliation and proper government-government relations to normalize again. Or maybe it's the last meeting where dramatic reconciliation is impossible and only each other's positions are broken, so we decide to break up in a situation where it's hard to go together anymore. I'm now expressing my strong will to persuade the president by raising issues until the end so that he can somehow fix and change the overall change in state administration, rather than simply talking about the situation in which representative Han Dong-hoon continues to demand the media for an approach to such a private meeting.

So, I hope you refrain from public activities, from the public's perspective on the Deutsche Motors case. And personnel reshuffling of the secretive line, these are official requests that we should have told the president in advance, so it is meaningless to meet and simply drink tea and eat. That is why such requirements are not fulfilled. The president flatly rejected the requirement. Then, there is no point in holding a private meeting, so we have no choice but to go our separate ways after that. Of course, that means you have to do what you can for the success of the Yoon Suk Yeol government because you are the representative of the ruling party in a two-person, three-way system. The president also has to do his job as president, but after that, it can be difficult to meet even a private meeting.

[Anchor]
We can't help but talk about Mrs. Kim Gun-hee.

[Keunsik Kim] There is no way not to
I will do it very strongly in the representative style of Han Dong-hoon.

[Anchor]
I did it strongly at the meeting, but I think there's a concern about what happens to your relationship afterwards. Wouldn't President Yoon Suk Yeol also take his own answer sheet?

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That's why you didn't want to meet him. As we saw, President Yoon Suk Yeol was very reluctant to meet with representative Han Dong-hoon. If it was an existing relationship, we couldn't meet twice or three times a week, but now Han Dong-hoon, who suddenly became the leader of the ruling party, is uncomfortable, so I can guess that's why he is avoiding it because he has to answer to Kim Gun-hee himself. In fact, even if the solo meeting is held, I think it will be difficult for Han Dong-hoon to tell the contents related to Kim Gun-hee. However, I think it's a very difficult point to get a clear answer. There's one breaking news right now, so I think I'll have to tell you this first. Breaking news came that North Korea, which declared a break in inter-Korean relations, blew up the Gyeongui Line and the East Sea Line inter-Korean connection road.

There are circumstances yesterday preparing to detonate the inter-Korean road. I've told you this before. We just got a breaking news that we blew up the connection road. It is about the bombing of some sections north of the Military Demarcation Line on the north-south connection road of the Gyeongui Line and the East Sea Line. There was a breaking news that our military is strengthening surveillance and alertness. In this situation where North Korea declared a break in inter-Korean relations and declared two hostile countries, it also put barbed wires around the armistice line. Not long ago, I made a declaration that I would fortify it. It seems to be one of the flows that are a little connected to this. Today, there was a breaking news that the Gyeongui Line and the East Sea Line were blown up. It is said that our military is currently strengthening surveillance and alertness. There's a North Korean expert next to me, so I'll ask you about it. Bombing the inter-Korean connection road, this has a symbolic meaning, can we see it like this?

[Keunsik Kim]
Since the roads were separated and cut physically and geographically, aren't there any accumulated traces that have been accumulated as inter-Korean relations progressed since the so-called Kim Dae Jung Presidential Summit? I think I thought of cutting those things off in a symbolic sense. So, the East Sea Line and Gyeongui Line connection is a representative project of the continuous cooperation between the South and the North during the so-called Sunshine Policy from President Kim Dae Jung to President Roh Moo Hyun and then President Moon Jae In. I also connected the railway. Therefore, as you said, from the end of last year to the beginning of this year, Kim Jong-un said that he would live apart from two completely different countries at a time when he kept omitting the word "hostile" and "national" and deleting "unification." The most symbolic meaning of the progress of inter-Korean relations has been road and rail connection. Connecting the railway and the road means that the two Koreas are one. The fact that the railroad and road were cut off seems to be a strong will to completely break the link between the two Koreas that have been built and accumulated beyond the hostile two-state theory as a discourse.

[Anchor]
You analyzed that it is a symbol of breaking the link between the two Koreas, and we will connect an expert in a moment and analyze it in detail. I'm giving you Jungkook's story. Let's move on to the next keyword. Please show us. Myung Tae-kyun's mouth is getting rougher. The dog tied to Supreme Council member Kim Jae-won, expressed it like this, and Supreme Council member Kim Jae-won did not stay still. You have to send the bars. I'm talking about this in today's radio interview. Let's listen to the contents of the workshop. Myung Tae-kyun's wavelength is only one wave. It is almost a guerrilla war with several people, but Kim Jae-won is described as a dog tied to Supreme Council member Kim Jae-won, so why doesn't Supreme Council member Kim Jae-won take judicial action? We have to send the bars. I think I responded like this.

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So, I think the spark of the truth battle between the two will eventually head to the presidential office. He's looking at the war of words that was sent on the radio this morning, but Myung Tae-kyun has continued to expose it on Facebook since then. Those parts will eventually be delivered to the presidential office. I'm worried that the people's eyebrows will be raised more because of that.

[Anchor]
As Myung Tae-kyun said, Kim Jae-won, the supreme council member, is stimulating with some kind of words, so I posted this on social media today, saying that I will make additional revelations. Let's take a look together. The conversation that Myung Tae-kyun posted on social media today is creating another wave. It was posted saying that it was the content of Mrs. Kim Gun-hee's Kakao Talk. The content is as follows.

When I meet Junseok tomorrow, the exact answer will come out. I'll contact you tomorrow. So, Mrs. Kim Gun-hee is working so hard. Please forgive my immature brother. I'm at a loss. This is the content of the conversation that sent this answer. As the impact of this content grew, the presidential office also made a position. Please show us. The brother in the Kakao Talk released by Lee Myung-tae-kyun, who you just saw, is not the president of Yoon Suk Yeol, but Kim Gun-hee's brother. And this is just a great private conversation, I explained.

[Keunsik Kim]
As the impact of Myung Tae-kyun's remarks has grown, it is the first time that a Kakao Talk related to Kim Gun-hee has come out. At first, suspicions related to the nomination of lawmaker Kim Young-sun sparked this. There was a transcript or a Telegram capture from another third party.Ma. I think it's the first time that Myung Tae-kyun texted or texted directly with Kim Gun-hee. That's why we came all the way here. So, looking at Myung Tae-kyun's attitude, he often talked to First Lady Kim Gun-hee on the phone, made President Yoon Suk Yeol himself, and then touched Lee Joon-seok, Kim Jong-in, Kim Hong Joon Pyo, Kim Ahn Cheol Soo, and Oh Se-hoon to do everything, but there was a part where he boasted based on a certain amount of facts. But I didn't bring up any clear evidence.

But in the end, he posted a screenshot of that kind of message on Facebook today, and he said, "Kim Jae-won is the most responsible person." But that's now been recognized as true because the presidential office immediately came out and admitted that it was true that we exchanged that conversation.

[Anchor]
Here, my brother...

[Keunsik Kim]
He admitted that there was such an exchange, and he said that his brother was not the president of Yoon Suk Yeol, but Kim Gun-hee's brother. I don't know why the president's office responded too quickly. I'm worried about how I'll handle it in the back. If it's something you can move on to because it's your own brother, how will you respond next time when Myung Tae-kyun reveals another Kakao Talk message with the word "oppa" that has not been mentioned? I'm really surprised that the presidential office is working normally right now. And there's one person named my brother. Then, if you move on as your own brother and make an excuse, why does Myung Tae-kyun meet his own brother, and what does Lee Joon-seok have to do with his own brother? In that conversation. I think I made a statement that I really couldn't handle. Whether that statement came out after checking the facts with First Lady Kim Gun-hee or the President. Why did you keep not entering in a lukewarm way until now, but you immediately issued a statement about this Kakao Talk like a flashlight? Will you be able to handle the entrance statement in the back? I'm really worried that the presidential office is working properly now.

[Anchor]
From the perspective of the presidential office, I think it was made to determine whether it was true or not because if the contents of such Kakao Talk are disclosed, there may be criticism that they do not make a clear position. Do you think it was an appropriate statement of position?

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I don't think it's appropriate. After properly checking the facts, you should be able to give the people the feeling that they have been confirmed only with the facts. Looking at these contents, there seem to be more answers that are absurd. In fact, the presidential office is trying to finish these things in a hurry, but when you look at it, there are also stories about him who is not good enough. I don't know if he suddenly insisted that he was his brother because he thought that he should manage the presidential office, but there are many points where his brother could have more problems. For example, even after the election, there are continuous suspicions that my brother was involved in such state affairs. During the election process, the presidential office judges that the contents of tying up representative Lee Joon-seok and his brother or exaggerating unverified contents like this could actually lead to a new controversy.

[Anchor]
In fact, Supreme Council member Kim Jae-won had a war of words with Myung Tae-kyun himself. I've never heard of it, I have to send it behind bars, but I think the ruling party's leadership will have a lot of trouble over the level of response. How should I respond?

[Keunsik Kim]
CEO Han Dong-hoon came forward. So, regarding the relationship with various prominent politicians that Myung Tae-kyun is talking about, CEO Han Dong-hoon defined it as a collaborator, and it is really the product of old politics, so those involved told me to quickly reveal the truth. Therefore, it is confirmed that Myung Tae-kyun has met some people, even if he continues to talk about his personal relationship with a powerful politician in our party, starting with his relationship with First Lady Kim Gun-hee and President Yoon Suk Yeol. That's why the relationship with various politicians triggered by Myung Tae-kyun, the political maneuvering he did, and these are all because the facts are organized quickly, and if there is anything wrong, the politicians involved in the facts should get to the bottom of it and talk about it as it is, but they keep saying different things. And it's simple in the form of continuing to denigrate Myung Tae-kyun as nothing. So, the presidential office is also denigrating Myung Tae-kyun as a very small person and a broker, so he became more emotional and began to disclose that. This is a contradiction. If Myung Tae-kyun, the president, and First Lady Kim Gun-hee had a lot of honest conversations, this is a suspicion of manipulating state affairs.

Otherwise, if you swear that it's a person who's nothing, talking to someone who's nothing like that results in a very self-deprecation. So, tell the exact story that you did it and didn't do it, and to what extent will you admit it? And I think it is necessary to clarify how to take responsibility for that part.

[Anchor]
Many people are curious about the nomination of former lawmaker Kim Young-sun and the alleged money transaction. Why is the investigation not carried out quickly when there are even talks about this? There are a lot of people like this. How do you watch that?

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I think the investigation is going well. However, the prosecution also believes that there will be a lot of unnecessary content. So what the Democratic Party is talking about is arguing that this should be applied to the special prosecution. The contents that said the investigation was not going well were not from the ruling party itself. Now that Kim Jae-won, the supreme council member, is coming out, I think there will be more talks about the need for this investigation. If I correct it a little bit, I wrote something like this before, but when I checked the contents of Kakao Talk accurately, I thought it was because of such things as immature, ignorant, and so on.

[Anchor]
It seems that he intended to draw a clear line in his connection to President Yoon Suk Yeol.

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I think that's what it was meant to be.

[Anchor]
The two of you said in common that today's presidential office response was hasty. From the presidential office's point of view, the opposition party should file a complaint if this is the case, from the presidential office. I'm also urging them to do this. What kind of response do you think is necessary?

[Keunsik Kim]
In the past, the presidential office took legal action when the opposition party made a false attack, such as taking pictures of Cheongdam-dong drinking, Kim Gun-hee's Cambodia visit, or perforation in the official residence. In fact, there was a time when a police investigation was conducted. Myung Tae-kyun is revealing one story related to the president and his wife, and he has not confirmed his relationship with the president in a brief statement last week. After that, when the Kakao Talk message was released today, I said that this is my brother, but there are only these two. Then, the fact that the presidential office is not normal means that Myung Tae-kyun has been in a relationship with the presidential couple for a long time and that he has communicated with them until at least the primary period. After understanding all the facts, and how much he will acknowledge this and how far he will organize it. And when the presidential office issues a statement after checking whether this is legally responsible or not, this issue should be completed neatly after issuing a statement. However, if the presidential office does not end by issuing a statement, but rather if the presidential office's statement rather raises the problem, the presidential office is really doing something wrong. If that's the case, it's better not to pay. In today's case, why do you send that right away when you send a Kakao Talk message?

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I'd like to say it's a random explanation, too. In fact, because you can see people panicking, people respond in absurd ways that they cannot understand more, but they believe that comments with less clarity should not have been made by the president's office. So, I think it is necessary to correct these facts even now and correct these contents once again without public suspicion after the fact check is completed.

[Anchor]
According to the YTN report, the leadership of the ruling party is worried that there will be surface-to-air missiles even though it is a rifle machine gun. Let's take a brief look at the last keyword. It's finally tomorrow. For the leaders of the ruling and opposition parties, the fate is a match, but Han Dong-hoon said he went to Busan for the sixth time.

[Keunsik Kim]
And it's probably until tomorrow, so I think I'll continue to campaign for 1 night and 2 days. I'm probably all-in for the election of the head of Geumjeong-gu with all my party power. Because two places in Honam are not easy for our party. In the case of Ganghwa County, Incheon, it is confirmed that it is ahead. The election for the head of Geumjeong-gu is emerging as a very close area, and this is where our party won the last 20th or 21st general elections by a considerable margin. If we lose here, we think that the leadership of representative Han Dong-hoon could be dealt a significant blow, so we are expected to go and play hard all day with the feeling that we must win with desperation, including representative Han Dong-hoon.

[Anchor]
CEO Lee Jae-myung is also making all-out efforts with this determination that he cannot miss the Busan gold medal. The Democratic Party of Korea is now seeing a trend that it is continuing to reverse. How do you predict the outcome?

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We dare to evaluate that the public sentiment on the floor is still in favor of the Democratic Party. In order to create that way, the Democratic Party is also doing its best. So, many lawmakers and Democratic Party members visit Geumjeong and search for acquaintances to check the public sentiment of many regions. I think that we must campaign in various ways to lead the political establishment to victory.

[Anchor]
Although it is not a large-scale election, the fate of the leaders of the ruling and opposition parties is at stake. I'll wait and see the results. Professor Kim Geun-sik of Kyungnam University and Jeon Yong-ki of the Democratic Party of Korea were two lawmakers. Thank you for coming out today.