[Time's up] "Empty-handed interview"...Han Dong-hoon Considers Cancellation of Schedule

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■ Starring: Cho Dae-hyun, former head of the Office of the Prime Minister, Professor Kim Geun-sik of Kyungnam University

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[Anchor]
A political commentary with a living angle, starting at the stroke of the hour. Today, we have Kim Geun-sik, a professor at Kyungnam University, Cho Dae-hyun, former chief of the civil affairs office of the Prime Minister. Welcome. The interview is over, but there is a lot of backbiting. Let's look at the first keyword video.

[Anchor]
You saw the scene from yesterday's interview. After that interview, 80 minutes of interview, CEO Han Dong-hoon just went home. I didn't do the briefing. How do you watch that?

[Keunsik Kim]
It means that there was no result as expected. I'm sorry for the briefing, so I'm sorry for the public. I think it was complicated to stand in front of the microphone. So, it was delivered verbally to Chief of Staff Park Jung-ha, who was not present, and Park Jung-ha held a back briefing instead. In a word, I was looking forward to it.Looking at the meeting yesterday, I think that people don't change. On behalf of our party, Han Dong-hoon, the leader of our party, suggested that we preemptively present a solution to the First Lady Kim Gun-hee's risk in order to avoid the crisis amid the current state administration crisis and the falling approval rating of the president, the party, and Han Dong-hoon. Then, I hope that the president will decide not as a natural Yoon Suk Yeol as First Lady Kim Gun-hee's husband, but as the head of the government, the president of the Republic of Korea, and a politician Yoon Suk Yeol who is responsible for the success of the ruling party, but I also expected that he would be able to do so. I thought it would change, but I think it was the same that it didn't change.

[Anchor]
I can't definitively express the result of the interview now, but anyway, if you read the atmosphere of the close relationship, it was almost an empty-handed meeting, can we see it like this? How do you rate it?

[Cho Dae-hyun]
Not only the reaction of the close community, but also all the people and the Democratic Party were really disappointed to see this meeting.
I watched that scene in real time yesterday, but there's nothing to do as Director Park Jung-ha said, right? So I ended up reading the dictation as it was. To tell you the conclusion, yesterday's meeting is described as a meeting. We talk about this because it's an interview, but it's a meaningful meeting between the two, and the biggest victim of the meeting is the president of Yoon Suk Yeol, I think so. President Yoon Suk Yeol has to solve many problems and create many conditions through party leader Han Dong-hoon, but if he makes the shape of representative Han Dong-hoon like that, he will lose an important card in the future, I think so. It's hard to predict whether it's completely over or not, but I really want to tell you how I feel about the election.

[Anchor] After the
interview, CEO Han Dong-hoon went home. Chief of Staff Park Jung-ha delivered the atmosphere and content of the interview and the expression of representative Han Dong-hoon. Let's hear what it's about. I was curious about the answer to the last question. Can't you see all the facial expressions of a person even when the sun goes down? What do you mean by that?

[Keunsik Kim]
So I can't say I'm angry, but I don't think it's burdensome to say that I was a bad face because I was crying. So it's probably an answer that's been avoided like that. There's no way you can't see your face just because the sun has set, right? As such, I looked forward to the Yoon Han interview as a kind of exit to overcome the current difficult situation with considerable expectations from the perspective of the German party.Ma ended up with nothing but empty-handed results, so Chief of Staff Park Jung-ha, who is briefing this, has nothing to say. So I asked the president for some things. I'm just saying this. Wasn't this already known even if it wasn't yesterday's interview? So I was able to confidently say that representative Han Dong-hoon made such a request in front of the president, and Chief of Staff Park Jung-ha could not say what the rest of the president answered, what conversations were about, and how representative Han Dong-hoon felt about it.

[Anchor]
Cover in Yongsan.

[Keunsik Kim]
So, since then, it seems that there is a story coming out of Yongsan around today.

[Anchor]
So reporters must have wanted to see Han Dong-hoon's expression in person, but they canceled all their morning schedules.

[Keunsik Kim]
I had a seminar at the National Assembly in the morning, but I canceled it, and in the afternoon, I won the county election in Ganghwa-gun, so I'm supposed to say hello and thank you, but I don't know if I'll go or not.I think it's better not to go.

[Anchor]
Not going is a sign.

[Keunsik Kim]
In this situation, if we go to Ganghwa, we should greet the county residents who led our party to victory with a smile, but it is not appropriate to have a picture of representative Han Dong-hoon smiling at a time when yesterday's interview was such a mess. So I think if Han Dong-hoon realized the strong wall of stubbornness of President Yoon Suk Yeol, he now needs to proudly show his own reaction to that as the party's leader. However, I personally think it would be a good idea to consider future responses while staying in isolation for several days as a kind of political response to the sadness that yesterday's interview ended empty-handed.

[Anchor]
Anyway, I canceled my morning schedule and I'm in the position of CEO Han Dong-hoon. The presidential office's position on yesterday's talks is quite different. Can you show me the graphic? President Yoon Suk Yeol and representative Han Dong-hoon talked without reservation. In addition, they agreed to prevent constitutional abuses and unite the government for the success of the government. In a way, it was a time where there were many positive aspects.

[Cho Dae-hyun]
Don't you use the word massage as a common expression for the media? I'm massaging hard. It goes on without any consequences, and after that, a post-mask is being performed, that's what I think. As the professor said, Han Dong-hoon's time has come after thinking that one situation is over, one step has passed. CEO Han Dong-hoon's time has come, I think so. It takes time to accumulate and we have secured a big cause, but this alone is a little too much to carry out the next step.Not yet. So maybe CEO Han Dong-hoon needs additional time to secure a justification, and when we talk about such a post-mortem massage or even a little bit earlier yesterday. In my own way, CEO Han Dong-hoon took three things and took two of them, but at the end, the special inspector, didn't you put that in and take it? I think you should have accepted at least one, that's a bit too much.

[Anchor]
I didn't accept anything. There are reactions from the close circle that they are very disappointed. Let's hear what you're talking about.

[Anchor]
Let's talk about the walking scene. It was a little chilly yesterday, but I stood for more than 20 minutes and came out of the presidential office in a stampede, and this part was unpleasant, too. That's what Supreme Council member Kim Jong-hyuk says.

[Keunsik Kim]
It's a question of content or formality. The contents were also empty-handed meetings, and the president's office did not give a single positive answer to the public demand that representative Han Dong-hoon prepared and took. I think it's been summarized as not being able to explain everything in one way or another. If you look at the format, Kim Jonghyuk is the best.It can be said that it is inevitable to make Ma wait for about 20 minutes. Because the president had a diplomatic schedule. Then, at that time, we can go into a room and have a conversation over tea, even for invitations, interviews, and meetings between ordinary people, right? Then, while Director Jeong Jin-seok, one of the three-way interviews, takes CEO Han Dong-hoon and goes for a cup of tea, isn't it the most natural thing for the two to talk about? Isn't it that you were standing at a distance?

There were only officials from the presidential office next to him. Would CEO Han Dong-hoon have been able to talk about this and that with them? It kind of feels like setting up a bee. And then he showed up. I showed up, and I took a walk, and I didn't just take a walk with three people, but not just with two people, but with all of us. Kim Jonghyuk also pointed out that.Ma, a seven-member man in Hannam-dong, Yongsan, stood next to him as a protocol secretary, so even in that scene, there is a feeling of taking a head start and taking discipline, if we have to interpret it. Also, I don't think the seating arrangement should be like that in the photo or even in the actual interview. Wasn't there a meeting between the ruling and opposition parties after the general election? In that way, CEO Lee Jae-myung and the same Yoon Suk Yeol do not stand side by side, but we can at least meet at the round table. Since a round table has no top and bottom, the president and representative Han Dong-hoon sat face to face at the round table, and chief of staff Jeong Jin-seok said he was in attendance. The presidential office itself described it as an attendance. You can sit next to the president. But isn't that the president standing in front of two people standing in front of them with Chung Jin-suk and Han Dong-hoon in the same row and staring at them with both hands on the table? Chief of staff Jeong Jinseok is the chief of staff.Ma is a secretary. This is Han Dong-hoon, who is next to the chief of staff. This was a photo that could be interpreted excessively as if saying a word to a secretary who is equivalent to the chief of staff. That's a picture taken in the presidential office. Then, wouldn't you have taken dozens of pictures? Why did I put out that picture? I think that the intention is clearly read as well.

[Anchor]
Let's talk about the table for a while. If it was like that, wouldn't it be a round table for a lot of people? There are questions like that, too. What do you think of it personally?

[Cho Dae-hyun]
Of course. I've been preparing for meetings like that in the past, but I can't say who I am, but if the seat arrangement is square as soon as I go in, if it's an equal position. I didn't enter at all. That's how serious the war of nerves is. One out of eight said he was a protocol secretary, but this is very premeditated, I have no choice but to think so.

[Anchor]
Everything like that was intended, right?

[Cho Dae-hyun]
It's a presidential protocol, but it's never done so loosely. I was surprised. First of all, the shape of the hall itself is like a warehouse, and it's like there's another complainant who's very bothered to put a long table like that, so I'll send it quickly, so what is it? Isn't this the expression? Hurry up and say it and go. It was this expression. So looking at that, that was very planned, and the fact that they provided that photo itself... even if it was taken like that, I should have taken it out. And as you said at the beginning, we had a photo time at the round table, and then Jeong Jin-seok left, and when we talked, Jeong Jin-seok was present. This is a common rule. That's ridiculous.

[Anchor]
Please show us the graphic. In this photo, instead of a round table, CEO Han Dong-hoon is on a square table, and President Yoon Suk Yeol is on an iced coffee. And next to CEO Han Dong-hoon, Chief of Staff Jeong Jin-seok sat side by side. And when I look at Han Dong-hoon's right hand, I see a red file, and it's a red file with requirements. I think there have been reports that President Yoon Suk Yeol is in a situation where he doesn't even have a ballpoint pen, and I think many people imagined that such a meeting would have a tablecloth and flowers on the round table.

[Keunsik Kim]
is correct. That's what I'm thinking now that our manager is talking about it. The protocol secretary oversees everything like that. We're all doing the movement and rehearsals in advance. In that sense, I don't know if there was a personal intention involved.Ma has created a very unusual and unusual form.

[Anchor]
Have you ever asked for a round table?

[Keunsik Kim]
How would you ask for such a thing? So, this photo, not a round table, but a square table with CEO Han Dong-hoon and Chief of Staff Jeong Jin-seok, and a still of that photo with an arm on the table and a heavy-handed expression on his face were released and asked to interpret it like this with an invisible intention in Yongsan. From what I see, from the beginning, I clearly proved with that photo and protocol that I am not ready to accept CEO Han Dong-hoon's requirements.

[Anchor]
Chief of staff, Chief of Staff Jeong Jin-seok sat next to CEO Han Dong-hoon, and even if he sat on the other side, I think he would talk about it, but how is it usually appropriate to adjust it?

[Cho Dae-hyun]
In my case, of course, the two of you face each other, and Director Jeong Jin-seok has to sit slightly to the side regardless of the shape. It's a common protocol to sit out and sit down, and I'll tell you again, that's a planned protocol that the protocol secretary was over there. No matter how inexperienced the protocol secretary is, he cannot have made such a mistake.

[Anchor]
In any case, what was contained in that red file was the requirements that representative Han Dong-hoon took with determination, and the president's office reportedly expressed this position on those requirements. We prepared a graphic. I said that the people who have problems must be sorted out because they demand personnel reform, that is, the line of Kim Gun-hee needs to be reformed.
The proposal to suspend the activities of First Lady Kim Gun-hee is already being restrained. So let's wait and see the investigation in the future, about the controversy. It is said that he expressed this position. And regarding the controversy over Myung Tae-kyun, I decided to cut this issue firmly because I thought it was a problem. It's said that he answered like this. Regarding the independent counsel law on Kim Gun-hee, it is an unconstitutional independent counsel law, and the ruling party should definitely put the brakes on it. And the presidential office said this. If lawmakers' minds turn later and there are more votes to leave, they answered, "Isn't it inevitable?"

[Keunsik Kim]
The post-mortem position of the president's office, which is shown in the graphic, was additionally released today, so I organized it, but if you add a little bit to it, I'm already refraining from official activities, and I'll know if I watch it. So, the first example of refraining from official activities was the release of a photo of voting alone, not a presidential couple, during the election of the Seoul Metropolitan Office of Education. However, CEO Han Dong-hoon's suspension of official activities does not mean that he should not appear when he should appear with the president as a presidential spouse. They are telling us to keep our promise of a quiet inner circle that we promised to the people when we were presidential candidates. What is quiet inner workings that appear on the screen and follow and not follow on the tour? What is quiet inner workings, not formal ones like this?

Since he was not elected as a president's spouse, he told me not to have private conversations with Myung Tae-kyun, who accompanies him only to necessary events with the president, talk to lawyer Shin Pyeong for 30 minutes after the general election, talk to Jin Jung-kwon, and talk to him about political issues with emergency committee chairman Han Dong-hoon. Where is such a presidential spouse? I'm telling you not to flatter yourself.

[Anchor]
Some people are talking about a trip, but they are not talking about a trip.

[Keunsik Kim]
I don't want my personal thoughts and public sentiment to go on a trip. People think that there is no shame to follow the trip, which is why the president is saying that he is refraining from official activities because he did not go to the polls during the election of the Seoul Metropolitan Office of Education. That's not what CEO Han Dong-hoon is asking for. I'm telling you to be quiet. Next, the second thing is to talk about personnel reform, and I'll do it if you tell me exactly who it is, but isn't there something you added to it? But if someone explains what they did wrong, they say they will take action. What's that? I'm not going to do it. Isn't it so? I know who you're referring to.

[Anchor] Are you saying you're not going to do
?

[Kim Geun-sik]
I'm not going to do it. But the president's office came out to tell me who it was and explain when and how it was wrong. What's that? I'm saying I won't do it. That's it. Didn't the protocol secretary appear on the screen yesterday? And then, regarding the third special prosecutor law, it was shown in the graphic because it kept the constitutional order.Ma then came up with the presidential office's position. As you said, if you leave our party and support the independent counsel law, it can't be helped. It's up to you guys. I don't care. It doesn't matter if you guys leave, that's how determined they are to reject it. If the expression massaged by the presidential office is that much, it should be seen that representative Han Dong-hoon looked at the wall yesterday and talked about it, and President Yoon Suk Yeol explained that everything is no and no without agreeing or agreeing at all on representative Han Dong-hoon's proposal.

[Anchor]
I think the view of the close and the pro-Yoon-gye is a little different. In the pro-yoon community, it means that the party leader's trust relationship has collapsed because he only attacks like that in the first place, but if someone calls for personnel reform more specifically, does it mean that the person who asks for a detailed presentation of what's wrong with it mean that he or she won't do it? Or should I say it's an open ending?

[Jo Dae-hyun]
It appears to be a firm determination not to do it. Didn't CEO Han Dong-hoon prepare like this and put the agenda in advance? In that case, I don't think these three agendas are the same parallel agenda. The first and second agenda and the third agenda are completely different in weight. And the first and second agendas are different in a way, such as restraint or suspension, but they can be moved on with each other appropriately. However, in my view, the third thing that CEO Han Dong-hoon aimed for is to cooperate in the process of identifying suspicions. It's a step to go with this, and I think there's a focus on it. Then, didn't CEO Han Dong-hoon ask for a month after giving a little gift for the first and second parts? I'll give you a little gift. Instead, let's stop talking about the third one closely. Isn't there something the party leader can do and the president's office can do? Isn't the president's office basically a party right now? If that's the case, there was room for something to do in the third while giving justification in the first and second, but the first and second shoots were cut off and there was no room for conversation at all. So, as I said earlier, this is rather a reason for Han Dong-hoon, who clearly accumulated his role in future political affairs and his role in leading the party, and President Yoon Suk Yeol must receive the cooperation of the party in running the political situation in the future, but he has clearly lost the justification for that. That's how I judge. Of course, more accumulation is needed, but I think President Yoon made the wrong choice.

[Anchor]
You said, "I should have given you something and asked for cooperation, but it's too bad." Today, CEO Han Dong-hoon said that he has a schedule to go to Ganghwa, Incheon in the afternoon, so reporters will probably ask a lot of questions. We'll see what kind of answers we'll have. CEO Han Dong-hoon has another person to meet. Please show us the next keyword. I'm meeting with CEO Lee Jae-myung again.

[Keunsik Kim]
Ahead of yesterday's meeting with Yoon Han, Lee Jae-myung openly met with and proposed a meeting with Han Dong-hoon, and within hours, Han Dong-hoon responded positively. Already, that is generally true in principle, and there was already an agreement at the last meeting of the leaders of the ruling and opposition parties. They agreed that they would meet whenever they could. Also, wasn't there a few things that were agreed upon? It's like a financial investment tax or a revival of the district party related to political reform. Since there were such contents as the ruling and opposition party chairman's consultative body, it is necessary to re-examine these parts in the future and meet for new discussions. So, I would like to hear Lee Jae-myung's proposal for a meeting between the ruling and opposition parties yesterday, and Han Dong-hoon's positive response to it. I think this will be a meeting. In my opinion, the timing is that CEO Lee Jae-myung is saying, "Please do it well and meet me when you come back from the end," ahead of Yoon Han's solo meeting, so I think the timing is subtle and they are interpreting this and that.

[Anchor]
There were also comments that he said it as a greeting, but didn't he get it right away? Because I don't know what he's saying. Anyway, CEO Lee Jae-myung asked me to meet him again, and CEO Han Dong-hoon answered it right away. Do you think there's something I need to say? What do you think it's like?

[Cho Dae-hyun]
Some media reports say that CEO Lee called before. I think so. Then, ahead of the meeting yesterday, I think CEO Lee Jae-myung cheered for CEO Han Dong-hoon. Go and do well. Let's do well and bring something and talk about it. I think that's what it meant. And I think CEO Han Dong-hoon will be able to bring this much when he goes. I don't think I would have thought that I would come completely empty-handed. So if you bring it, take it out like this. Then you'll have one initiative, won't you? Then CEO Han Dong-hoon also led the Geumjeong election to victory. I'm very happy because I'm in a key position where I can take the lead in solving this difficult political turmoil. In that sense, I'm looking forward to CEO Lee's performance. Shouldn't CEO Lee also solve the deadlock? There's nothing to do, isn't there? The opposition party is also in a very difficult situation right now. In that situation, I think these stories came and went yesterday. Although the situation became like this, it was up to you two to solve the problem of solving the political situation later. And the meeting between the two could have even more important meaning. I put a lot of meaning on this part. I think I left another big turning point yesterday.

[Anchor] We were supposed to meet
but the date hasn't been set yet, so we'll have to wait and see when we meet, but if we meet, we can't leave out the issue of Kim Gun-hee's special prosecutor. Former Prime Minister Kim Boo-kyum also made this prospect. Let's listen to it.

[Anchor]
At this point, it is right for former Prime Minister Kim Boo-kyum to remove toxic provisions and remove suspicions about pollack bacteria, which are sensitive to the people's power, and agree on the revised special prosecution law.

[Keunsik Kim]
So, the so-called Special Prosecutor Kim Gun-hee Act is ripe, so there may be a situation that it is difficult for both the people's power and even the members of our party to just defend this part. Assuming that such a situation arises, such as the growing suspicion of pollack bacteria or the emergence of a larger smoking gun that is difficult to explain without further clearing the suspicion, I think there will be a time when discussions between the ruling and opposition parties on the Kim Gun-hee Special Prosecutor Act will be possible. Former Prime Minister Kim Boo-kyum said well in preparation for such a time. In the case of the manipulation of state affairs, the special prosecutor Choi Soon-sil, the special prosecutor Druking, the special prosecutor BBK, and the ruling and opposition parties will consult at the last minute to pass the special prosecutor. So, the third Kim Gun-hee independent counsel bill, which the Democratic Party of Korea will present, is a rough independent counsel bill that even the Democratic Party of Korea wrote, knowing that it would not be supported by the people. Former Prime Minister Kim Boo-kyum is now talking about making a real productive and efficient independent counsel that can be negotiated and compromised with the power of the people. In that case, I think an agreement between the ruling and opposition parties can be possible. However, let's use it as a card from the People's Power to use the Special Prosecutor Kim Gun-hee Act to leverage against the President at a time when Yoon Han-dae is now in a breakdown, and I don't think that's right. That's why, as I said earlier, I think the ruling and opposition parties need to put their heads together again when there is a boiling point in the public sentiment that can no longer reject the special prosecution law against Kim Gun-hee or a new smoking gun appears.

[Anchor]
The Democratic Party of Korea is also holding outdoor rallies and is raising its offensive against the people's power considerably. Do you think there is a possibility that Chairman Lee Jae-myung will make a decision to come up with such an amendment?

[Cho Dae-hyun]
It's difficult to predict such things at the moment, but I also looked at the bill yesterday. It's called 13 kinds. There were so many that I couldn't even memorize them all. But it's a must. There are urgent problems and there are angry problems that the people are most suspicious of now. For example, the manipulation of Deutsche Motors' stock price and the intervention of the nomination due to the pollack problem this time are actually inevitable.
I think it's very important to summarize the agenda with a few things like that. In that respect, it is very good for the two of you to show that the ruling and opposition parties agree on such matters and discuss them at the National Assembly. And it's what the people want. So I think it's accessible enough. Rather than the Democratic Party's decision, aren't they representatives of large political parties that need to cooperate with each other to solve the political situation? I hope it gives hope to the people.

[Anchor]
It seems that the special prosecutor's issue will be revised in detail at the meeting between the ruling and opposition parties, and that part must be watched. Let's move our attention to the end of the National Assemblyman's story. Please show us the content. First lady Kim Gun-hee nominated former lawmaker Kim Young-sun. Kang Hye-kyung, a former aide to former lawmaker Kim Young-sun
, came to the National Assembly yesterday to testify, which is causing a stir. Let's listen to it.

[Anchor]
There were even words such as sorcerer and spiritual conversation, but the key was that Kang Hye-kyung eventually gave the nomination to Kim Gun-hee, who testified like this. You're claiming that you're not a reliable person in the power of the people, right?

[Keunsik Kim]
After revealing quite a bit, Kang Hye-kyung appears to be closely related to the Democratic Party. I understand that the lawyer in charge is also close to the Democratic Party. So maybe the stories related to pollack are continuously revealing. The fundamental limitation of this is a message. I heard a story about pollack bacteria doing this.

[Anchor]
It's not like there's a direct recording file.

[Keunsik Kim]
That's right. There is a recording file of the phone calls between Myung Tae-kyun and aide Kang Hye-kyung, but it doesn't have the phone calls between Myung Tae-kyun and Mrs. Kim Geon-hee, and Myung Tae-kyun and President Yoon Suk Yeol. I don't have a text message that I communicated with. That's why I heard rumors by a third party. Since I heard you say this, even if you reveal it, there is still something to check whether the revelation is reliable. So, Myung Tae-kyun summarized in one word about Kang Hye-kyung's claims. It's the sound of a dog under the table. How can a dog under the table know what the people on the table tell? This is it. So I think Kang Hye-kyung's argument continues to be used as a political offensive material.Ma has already started a forced investigation by the Changwon District Prosecutors' Office, so inappropriate political fund transactions and money flows with lawmaker Kim Young-sun are caught, and then there are issues such as polling costs, and then the Changwon Industrial Complex issue. If such suspicions are raised, I think it is necessary for the prosecution to quickly investigate and find out the truth to see if there is a problem or not.

[Anchor]
There are 27 lawmakers of the People's Power related to Myung Tae-kyun, so this is not just Kim Gun-hee's nomination, but it seems to spread to the people's power as a whole. If the nomination system is true, it's been shaking for a long time. How big do you think the impact will be in the future?

[Cho Dae-hyun]
As various suspicions related to Myung Tae-kyun have been raised this time, I think what Mayor Hong Joon Pyo said is quite sympathetic and meaningful. So, if you say that a poll is actually a traditional poll, it's a reference to plan ahead of the election. I do that exactly. However, they say it is the only one in Korea, but the poll itself has already become a means of determining candidates. In addition, some derivatives are strategic nominations or singular nominations. That's why it's being used as important data to determine candidates. It had a positive meaning. It's about choosing candidates based on scientific data. I think we're at the limit now. 27 people are mentioned and 25 people are mentioned, but I don't know if they are real contractors or whether Myung Tae-kyun did it arbitrarily. Because when I saw it yesterday, Na Kyung-won said, "I'm not me," right? Judging from Myung Tae-kyun's style, it doesn't mean you can trust it 100%. However, this important issue is the very wrong nomination system that the method of polling has. And with a powerful person involved, how bad a scientific system can be used. This is not only a big task for the people, but for the Democratic Party. So I think this is an important task to solve in the future.

[Anchor]
You pointed out that it is a problem with the nomination system that both the ruling and opposition parties have. Since it is a testimony from the National Audit Office and the repercussions are growing, we will also see how representative Han Dong-hoon will solve this problem at the party level. Professor Kim Geun-sik of Kyungnam University and former Prime Minister Cho Dae-hyun, head of the civil affairs office. Thank you.