[News Plus] President Yoon's "Impeachment Trial First"...Controversy over 'impeachment of Prime Minister' between ruling and opposition parties

■ Host: Lee Yeo-jin, anchor Jang Won-seok
■ Starring: Kim Ki-heung, former deputy spokesperson for the president's office, and Park Won-seok, former lawmaker of the Justice Party

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[Anchor]
Let's take a look at today's political situation with Kim Ki-heung, a deputy spokesman for the former presidential office, and Park Won-seok, a former lawmaker of the Justice Party. Hello? The Constitutional Court has now decided to consider the impeachment trial documents to be received by President Yoon. Then, will the first hearing date on the 27th proceed as scheduled?

[Kim Gi-heung]
From the Constitutional Court's point of view, the president continues to refuse, so hasn't it been more than a week? If so, the president actually stipulated that he recognized this and sent it to him on the 19th, and the time he received it was a week based on the 20th. It is known that the hearing date will be as scheduled on the 27th. However, there are cases where the president has to submit various documents requested by the Constitutional Court by the 24th and by tomorrow. Whether to actually submit that part. And there has been no official word yet on whether the president and his lawyer will actually attend the hearing on the 27th.

[Anchor]
Compared to past cases, past presidents were served with documents right after the impeachment. How are you watching it?

[Park Won-seok]
is correct. Former President Roh Moo Hyun was the same, and former President Park Geun Hye received it as soon as the Constitutional Court sent such documents to announce the start of the impeachment proceedings immediately after the impeachment. I think we have no choice but to say that we are responding to an unprecedented kind of judgment. So today I will start the preparatory proceedings with what the Constitutional Court considers unusual and what it considers to be served. I don't think this is how it was decided. President Yoon

said in his last public statement that he would not avoid legal and political responsibility, but he seems to be showing a different attitude from what he vowed to do. He is refusing to accept a request for attendance in this investigation, not only in the Constitutional Court's impeachment proceedings but also in the investigation by investigative agencies. As a president, he has not shown any respect for the rule of law. But anyway, I don't think such an investigation schedule or a response to delaying the Constitutional Court hearing schedule would be that effective. Since the investigative agency or the Constitutional Court's response will come out as a result, it can be seen that the Constitutional Court regarded it as such and started the impeachment process today.

[Anchor]
The deadline for submitting an answer is the 27th, but this is not mandatory, is it?

[Kim Ki-heung]
is correct. It's not mandatory. From the Constitutional Court's point of view, the Constitutional Court's perspective is progressing on time. It's not to defend the president, but isn't the content of the Constitutional Court hearing related to rebellion? If so, it is said that it is a little difficult to find a lawyer who is a former justice of the Constitutional Court. In the case of general criminal cases, there will be many lawyers, but they have consulted on such areas that require a high level of legal knowledge that they worked at the Constitutional Court, but it did not go well. Former Constitutional Judge Kang Il-heon was mentioned.

Since he is known to have died for personal reasons because he did not actually join, the president now considers it the 27th day of pleading and today's Constitutional Court decision, so there is no need to unnecessarily provoke the Constitutional Court and unnecessarily criticize the people. From that point of view, my friend, lawyer Seok Dong-hyun, talked a lot today, and among them, the president said that his focus is on the Constitutional Court rather than being investigated in relation to criminal cases, so I think he will actively cooperate with the future schedule.

[Anchor]
Speaking of which, we will continue after hearing the remarks of lawyer Seok Dong-hyun, who is consulting President Yoon's lawyers. President Yoon stressed that he is not dragging his feet or avoiding the process, but is the Constitutional Court really rushing to make such a judgment?

[Kim Gi-heung]
Isn't the president suspended from his duties in the current situation after impeachment? If so, there seems to be a consensus that the Constitutional Court should quickly reduce uncertainty in the Republic of Korea whether to cite or reject impeachment. However, the president appointed a lawyer to exercise sufficient defense rights, and most of all, investigations are being conducted through various investigative agencies such as the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, the prosecution, and the police, and the president thought martial law was inevitably necessary for the investigation, but in reality, the voices of the field commanders are different, right?

It seems that it takes absolute time to prepare your position for such a variety of situations. In that respect, rather than avoiding the president, physical time is needed to prepare one by one to guarantee such defense rights. It's also necessary to accept it in that respect. This is actually what I am. There are legal disputes, but from the president's point of view, don't you think he politically did it to warn the opposition by maintaining order in the National Assembly about the inevitability of martial law, self-regulation of the national emergency, and then the controversy of national constitution? In order to say this, don't you have to fully explain your logic about the part that contradicts the part known through the report so far and the part known through the investigation? In that respect, I think we need more time like this because we're doing it one by one. I think there is room for interpretation in this respect.

[Anchor]
Didn't former President Roh Moo Hyun submit a power of attorney to the delegation five days after the impeachment motion was passed, and former President Park Geun Hye submitted a power of attorney and an answer seven days later? Don't you think they needed enough preparation?

[Park Won-seok]
That's normal. On the 27th, the Constitutional Court announced the date of preparation for the hearing, and there is a two-week period. It's time to prepare enough for the defense preparation period. President Yoon's appearance now seems to be only a deliberate delay strategy to delay the Constitutional Court's impeachment hearing. I can understand that you need time to defend yourself.Ma has nothing to do with refusing to accept the impeachment inquiry documents sent by the Constitutional Court. It seems that refusing to accept the documents three times has nothing to do with self-defense and has been responding so far with the aim of delaying the trial as much as possible. I understand that the defense team has not been formed yet, and the defense team has not yet been delegated to the impeachment hearing process. However, according to some reports, a representative of the defense team was decided. If it's that bad, I can go on the preparation period for my defense. Therefore, I don't think it's an excuse that all the lawyers are not formed. And I think we can only say that we are doing so for the purpose of deliberate delay. I think the decision to regard it as being served by the Constitutional Court today and to set the hearing date as scheduled on the 27th came from that judgment.

[Anchor]
Can we interpret the fact that the impeachment trial process takes precedence over the investigation as effectively indirectly rejecting the request of the Joint Chiefs of Staff to attend on the 25th of the day after tomorrow?

[Kim Gi-heung]
Lawyer Seok Dong-hyun said in an interview that there is no possibility of 99% of the investigation. As the president is focusing on the impeachment hearing, I think there is a possibility that he will be very passive in the investigation for the time being. In a way, the Constitutional Court hearing and investigation are two different tracks, but in fact, aren't they one? If so, I think the president will go to the Constitutional Court and appeal his message strongly on this part because the president is also a politician. Apart from simply legal disputes, there seems to be something I want to emphasize about this.

So, some opposition parties and the media point out that the move is aimed at rallying their supporters, but in my view, as a president, he didn't commit a personal crime, did he? I can point out that the goodwill is different from the public's eye level, but I want to fully talk about the intention of martial law, but in terms of the investigation, I think we have no choice but to answer questions in front of investigators rather than continue what we want to say, focusing on facts. In that respect, he seems to have judged that the Constitutional Court is strategically advantageous to him in order to send his message at the time he wants to the place he wants.

[Anchor]
Does this mean that we will not cooperate with investigative agencies for the time being until the results of the impeachment trial come out?

[Park Won-seok]
If that happens, I think a forced investigation is inevitable. If he does not attend by the 25th, I think the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit will probably proceed with an arrest warrant, a preliminary arrest warrant, or the next compulsory investigation procedure. According to the position stated through lawyer Seok Dong-hyun today, the impeachment review is a priority, so I will not go to the investigation agency for any reason while I remain president. But it's not up to you. In the

Civil War, if a foreign exchange crime is committed, the fluoridation privilege does not apply even during the presidential term. President Yoon is accused of rebellion. In the past, there was a case in which prosecution was suspended until the Constitutional Court made a decision under former President Park Geun Hye. Compared to then, some argue that it should still be like that. That's a completely different charge. At that time, the president could not investigate as long as he remained president because he was not criminally prosecuted except for the crime of foreign exchange of civil war. Therefore, he suspended the prosecution and proceeded with the investigation after the impeachment trial. It's different now than it was then.

Since he committed the crime of civil war, the investigation can be carried out regardless of the presidency, and the investigative agency will conduct a forced investigation for that reason. Again, unlike saying that he would not avoid legal and political responsibilities, he was indicted for impeachment, believing that he was continuing to try to avoid legal and political responsibilities, but as president of the Republic of Korea, he is showing a little less respect for the rule of law of the Republic of Korea. In the past, during the investigation trial on the military revolt on December 12, Chun Doo-hwan refused to investigate to the end, read the alley statement and was arrested at Haeinsa Temple in Hapcheon. I think it's similar to then, but I think he's holding out with the idea of coming in and catching it if he wants to catch it, but the investigative agency believes that a forced investigation is inevitable.

[Anchor]
Lawyer Seok Dong-hyun, who spoke earlier, filed a complaint against Lee Jae-myung of the Democratic Party of Korea on charges of propaganda of rebellion. How should I look at this?

[Kim Gi-heung]
I don't know if the expression is appropriate, but I want to cry, but I think it's like a slap in the face. Isn't it the situation of the National Assembly that the president always talks about martial law? the state of affairs Inevitably, would I have declared martial law? The opposition's ceaseless impeachment, special prosecutors, reduced budgets and judicial risks. Aren't we talking about various things to reduce the judicial risk of representative Lee Jae-myung? After all, from the president's point of view, of course, when talking about the Constitutional Court, we have no choice but to talk about the runaway of the opposition party.

However, didn't the Democratic Party of Korea and the opposition party accuse lawyer Seok Dong-hyun of propaganda of civil war? Then, from lawyer Seok Dong-hyun's point of view, the opposition party constantly insists that the civil war is underway. However, in my view, it has been recovered in a way with the power of the people. It's going back to normal now. Judicial proceedings are going to that track right now.

However, it is a perception that this is a problem for the part that has been personally evaluated and encouraged as if they would actually conduct a civil war for the part that has already ended. In the end, strategically, it will not be bad to continue to entangle something with the opposition. And in my opinion, this cannot be a rebellion or a rebellion. So, in my view, the opposition party's excessive attack on the current lawyer Seok Dong-hyun is not such a big strategy.

[Anchor]
Lawyer Seok Dong-hyun said this. As Yoon still maintains his status as president, any investigation is not an issue for the president to respond to in front of the agency. So, do you mean that the investigative agency should come and investigate, or do you mean a third place?

[Park Won-seok]
will also not respond. There's no way the investigative agency can be divided. Is there any reason to investigate the emperor against someone who committed rebellion now? That's their argument. If they continue to make that claim, I think they have no choice but to launch a forced investigation, and in this case, the investigative agency should of course issue an arrest warrant or arrest warrant. I think he has openly expressed his intention today that he will continue to refuse to comply with the investigation and interfere with the investigation. Again, it is different from the situation in which the investigation was suspended during the impeachment review under former President Park Geun Hye.

This is a crime of rebellion. I would like to say that this is not the case because he has committed such a crime that he can receive criminal prosecution even during his presidency. I don't think lawyer Seok Dong-hyun has been appointed as an attorney for the impeachment review of the Constitutional Court or President Yoon's rebellion. In the name of legal advice, I think he is actually acting as a political agent and spokesperson in a situation where he is suspended from office. I think the Democratic Party of Korea accused him of propaganda of civil war because his political agent made such remarks as glorifying martial law or sympathizing with civil war.

Lawyer Seok Dong-hyun is not an important person, so he will respond to it as a warning, but I think it's not very meaningful. In any case, similar logic to what President Yoon Suk Yeol said at the press conference on December 12 continues to be circulated around it, and the opposition party's lack of cooperation or so-called drag on state administration in the National Assembly is within the constitution and legal means of the opposition party. Even if it is repeated, it is not the basis for emergency martial law or civil war. Believing that he is spreading ridiculous sophistry, he will unite hard-line supporters through such sophistry and provide a frame for hard-line supporters to speak out. Since lawyer Seok Dong-hyun is carrying out this purpose, I think the opposition party accused him of being a crime of propaganda against civil war.

[Anchor]
The police are also tightening the pressure on the police investigation network, but the police are analyzing the phone calls of the president of Yoon Suk Yeol. This is known as a regular phone, not a non-Phone, so will there be any progress in the investigation in the future?

[Kim Gi-heung]
As for the situation on that day, the president is known to have used a non-phone, so it's not the situation on that day. If so, the opposition party is raising the issue in the media, saying, "Did you have a plan for martial law or did you have a plan in advance?" The president used his personal phone quite a lot. Even when I was in the presidential office, I communicated with many people through my previous cell phone rather than a secret phone or something like that. If so, there have been discussions about martial law since last year. Sometimes it's been since the general election was lost. There are a lot of rumors, and you can tell who you talked to at that time by looking at that.

I don't have a call history, but I regularly talked to someone on the phone for a long time. And isn't there any significant period, period, that has been revealed through the media? If we put together various pieces that we talked to at that time and at that time, I think meaningful results can be made at some point that the opposition party is claiming and the media is paying attention to.

But the most important thing is that we talked on the phone, but we don't know the details of the call, right? Therefore, this only explains various circumstances, not conclusive evidence. The most important thing is to call the non-Phone. It's in the presidential office. However, I understand that the search and seizure were not secured once.

[Anchor]
We have sent an official letter asking for preservation. An order issued to Deputy Prime Minister Choi Sang-mok has also been secured, but if you look at the contents, cut the operating expenses of the National Assembly from this moment on. Make a budget for the operation of the emergency martial law legislature. I heard there was something like this. If so, isn't it contrary to President Yoon's statement that it was a warning?

[Park Won-seok]
That's right. I think there's another evidence that contradicts that argument. I think Deputy Prime Minister Choi Sang-mok submitted that document at the time of the police investigation. In his last public statement, President Yoon said that the use of military forces in the National Assembly was a warning and that he immediately tried to accept it when the National Assembly decided to lift the emergency martial law. If it were, the military would not have broken the window and attempted to break into the plenary hall. Furthermore, asking the Deputy Prime Minister for Economic Affairs to cut the operating expenses of the National Assembly and draw up the budget for the legislature of emergency martial law proves that he had the intention to stop the normal function of the National Assembly from the beginning, and I think that will serve as the basis for the illegality and civil war of emergency martial law.

In any case, during the ongoing investigation, all circumstances and all the testimonies of the civil war workers, or the body of the civil war is the President of Yoon Suk Yeol, but he is the only one who continues to refuse the investigation, so refusing the investigation like this is a concern about escape and destruction of evidence. On top of that, it's a rebellion crime. The crime is serious. In principle, it is impossible to investigate the president of Yoon Suk Yeol, who is the head of the civil war, which is the main culprit when all the criminals are arrested, so I think we must launch a forced investigation.

[Anchor]
There were many testimonies, but it is known that the original document was submitted by the police special investigation team. Then, I think it will be a very important clue to the illegality of the emergency martial law. What do you think?

[Kim Gi-heung]
I think it's the invocation of martial law and such formal procedures. There is a certain purpose after that, but the most important thing to look at is whether it actually disturbed the national constitution. If so, many people know that the military was put into the National Assembly on TV that day. I saw the situation of the day, so there's no theory about that. However, it is a part of whether the president gave such orders directly, former Minister Kim Yong-hyun did it, or someone did it, but the president said to maintain order anyway, but commanders on the field should break the door and pull it out. And at this time, we have to organize everything. In a way, statements against the president are being made, and in addition to this, the documents received by Deputy Prime Minister Choi Sang-mok are not about physical events and can make the National Assembly a little lethargic after that. That's why this is expected to serve as evidence that can strengthen the field commanders' statements so far that such issues are more than what the president said as a level of order or warning.

[Anchor]
On the other hand, the contents of the personal notebook of former commander Roh Sang-won, who is a non-president of martial law, are being revealed one by one, and there was also an expression of blocking the National Assembly. induce North Korea's attack on the Northern Limit Line of the NLL. It is said that this expression was also found, but the police said they are investigating President Yoon on foreign exchange charges. Please tell us about this part.

[Park Won-seok]
In any case, a civil war is to riot for the purpose of a national constitutional civil war, and isn't a foreign exchange aimed at making some kind of civil war by having an internal relationship with the enemy or by starting a war that is not legal? Both are crimes that the president can be prosecuted criminally even during his term in office. I have no choice but to suspect that what came out of Roh Sang-won's notebook was with some kind of military action in mind. Then, a drone sent from the Republic of Korea flew over Pyongyang from North Korea, and there was a lot of controversy because of that. There is also a testimony that Defense Minister Kim Yong-hyun gave such an order to military officials to keep hitting North Korea's balloons from the ground up. Putting this together, the police said today that they would expand their investigation based on Roh Sang-won's notebook, thinking that the civil war did not just cause riots to occupy the National Assembly by force or interfere with the exercise of authority by constitutional institutions, but also to continue to drag the state of civil war by causing local wars.

[Anchor]
In connection with this, the notebook also had real names for politicians, journalists, and judges. There is an expression called collection, what do you think this was intended?

[Kim Gi-heung]
If you collect it on a daily basis, there is an expression such as garbage separation, so I think it will be similar to the meaning of arresting. But the first thing I want to say is what the police said when they announced it was basically what should be laid down as a premise. Because they are fragmentary pieces of words, there is a possibility of misunderstanding, distortion, and misunderstanding in the entire context. Nevertheless, this is the first time the investigation authorities have secured something, so didn't people actually meet on the 1st and 3rd at the meeting we talked about at the hamburger store that day, the Lotteria meeting?

If you look at their CCTV, there's something to write down, so if there's a common denominator between each other by securing documents and notes from people who wrote it down, this is a high possibility. And what we're paying attention to here is not very reliable if only the story in the memo came out at the beginning, but it's not much different from what's been said through various investigations and media, so we're keeping an eye on it. That's how I am. If you look at it, foreign exchange is also a huge thing for me. It's hard for me to imagine starting a war by stimulating the North for my own intentions. Anyway, don't you have various thoughts on how many words and keywords you wrote about that?

Or did you discuss it with someone and write it down in that kind of discussion? If you discussed it, you should look closely at this part whether you did it with former Minister Kim Yong-hyun or talked to people you can control. And above all, as you said, if you look here, there is an expression of collection and a blockade of the National Assembly, so in the end, you are trying to physically block and block the National Assembly, which is a constitutional institution, and prevent such things that the National Assembly can lift martial law. In this regard, the evidence is more than just a statement, and there is even an analysis that it is a smoking gun that can support the situation so far.

[Anchor]
Meanwhile, it has been confirmed that the members of the hamburger meeting led by former commander Roh Sang-won formed a 60-member investigation team and even wrote an official letter of personnel appointment, and the main task of the investigation team is to take control of the Central Election Commission server.

[Park Won-seok]
Looking at the targets that the counterintelligence command moved quickly on the day of martial law, it mainly moved toward the NEC and will find the basis for the fraudulent election based on the so-called fraudulent election conspiracy theory. I think that's why I set this goal. In that case, the investigation must be carried out, but under the Military Court Act, the military has only three investigative powers: military police, military prosecutors, and counterintelligence command. But wasn't Roh trying to create a new investigative agency centered on a private organization that could be controlled by Roh Sang-won? In other words, I think the second investigation team was trying to create an investigation team that mobilized their private organizations that were not in the official system in the military.

In fact, it was the 2nd Armored Brigade Commander who was appointed as the general manager, but the 2nd Armored Brigade Commander is not a position to investigate inside the military at all and is not a member of the counterintelligence command. Isn't it that this person took a day off without reporting to his immediate superior, the division chief, and was waiting in about 100 units of the counterintelligence command? Wasn't it that I thought it clearly showed the purpose of rebellion and that I was trying to take control of the NEC so quickly and steal the server to proceed with the investigation? To that end, if you go to the official military investigation line, you can't control yourself, so I think they organized the second investigation team with the purpose of forming a separate investigation agency, that is, a separate investigation team under emergency martial law, to lead the investigation according to their intentions.

[Anchor]
On the other hand, Rep. Jang Kyung-tae of the Democratic Party of Korea said this today. Kim Gun-hee was staying at a plastic surgery clinic in Gangnam for three hours until an hour before the declaration of the emergency martial law of the president of Yoon Suk Yeol on the 3rd. If this is true, should I say that Mrs. Kim Gun-hee didn't know beforehand?

[Kim Gi-heung]
First of all, I would like to believe that Representative Jang Kyung-tae will speak based on facts because he is a member of the National Assembly, but so far, there have been quite a few so-called fake news that Representative Jang Kyung-tae has raised issues regarding First Lady Kim Gun-hee. And there was also a part of demonizing Kim Gun-hee from her own point of view. So I think this is actually just a side to martial law and impeachment. It can be very sensational. That's why I don't know much about this, so I'm going to say that I'm careful right now to say something.

[Anchor]
On the other hand, the ruling and opposition parties are still fighting over the appointment of a constitutional judge. The confirmation hearing began today. The Democratic Party is trying to deal with it this week, and the people's power did not attend the hearing citing Han's authority, and even warned of a dispute trial now. Will it go to a dispute trial?

[Park Won-seok]
However, I can't understand the power of the people because the ruling and opposition parties have agreed to recommend three candidates for constitutional judges. So, the ruling party recommended Cho Han-chul, the nominee for constitutional judge, but after that, the emergency martial law rebellion broke out and the need to urgently fill the vacancy of the constitutional judge increased, so it's hard to understand because it's coming out like this. And although it has been discussed a lot, the three candidates for the Constitutional Court are recommended by the National Assembly.

Since it is not a presidential nomination, there is no discretion of the president, and if the nomination agreement is passed through a candidate hearing at the National Assembly, the president will only appoint it as a formal procedure, so there is no problem with the acting president exercising this authority. In the past, even when Prime Minister Hwang Kyo-ahn was acting, there was a precedent of appointing a candidate for constitutional judge for the Supreme Court. It can be done according to that precedent, and the current position of the Constitutional Court, and the current position of the Constitutional Court candidate, in view of the precedent, and there is no discretion of the president that it is up to the recommendation of the National Assembly. Considering the background of such a nomination, there is no problem, but I think he is pressuring the prime minister with an inappropriate logic that has continued only in the power of the people. Anyway, after the hearing ends tomorrow, a plenary session will be held on the 27th and the appointment agreement will be passed. I think it should be appointed without delay.

[Anchor]
Now, Park Chan-dae, floor leader of the Democratic Party of Korea, has said that if the independent counsel for rebellion and the independent counsel for Kim Gun-hee are not promulgated by the 24th, so I will immediately hold acting representative Han Deok-soo accountable, but the prime minister's office is in a position to think about it until January 1, the deadline for exercising the veto power. Can an impeachment be proposed as early as tomorrow?

[Kim Gi-heung]
So, it is the responsibility of the political community to give the people a sense of stability about the current situation, such as the confusion caused by martial law. However, from the perspective of the Democratic Party of Korea, don't you mean that they will eventually impeach you if you don't do what you want regarding the current independent counsel and the veto? For me, what is the benefit of the people in the situation where the current martial law and impeachment are confronting each other? Then, to solve this problem, as they said, we can remove toxic provisions from the special prosecutor's office through the ruling-opposition-government consultative body or discuss this part of the appointment of a constitutional judge as we have said.

But without discussing that, such a political process can be done up to the 31st in a state of ferocity. That's the bill. There is a period of deliberation for 15 days to demand or promulgate the bill. It is stipulated in the Constitution. But aren't you suddenly asking me to get rid of all the 15 days and give you an answer by tomorrow? So if you don't fear it, you can impeach it, threaten it, and even call it fear politics.

So why do I have to do it by tomorrow? That's not it. So, the United States is also very supportive of the acting system of Han Deok-soo. The people also want to help out with anything right now. You have to go with a sense of stability. The current situation is that you don't know when the presidential impeachment trial will end. It can last as long as several months. If so, if this is not a situation that will end in a week, it would be good to admit and help the acting Han Deok-soo system and criticize him. Aren't you rejecting the existence itself? I think these kinds of fear politics, impeachment politics, and impeachment addiction are disturbing to the people.

[Anchor]
The internal situation is as confusing as checking the ruling party from the outside. It is predicted that the chairman of the emergency committee will come out by tomorrow. Kwon Sung-dong, the floor leader of the party, is a one-top system or senior Kwon Young-se and Na Kyung-won are coming out, so who do you think is the right person?

[Park Won-seok]
I don't think everyone is the right person. All those who are now mentioned were against impeachment anyway, and then there was no inevitability or civil war of emergency martial law. Because they are taking this position, they are far from the so-called public eye level. After all, whether the president committed such an unconstitutional or illegal act or committed a crime such as a civil war, impeachment should not be the only thing and the administration should not be handed over to the Democratic Party. I keep repeating this story. Since the people's power is also a member of the legislature, we have to judge whether the president committed a rebellion in violation of the Constitution and laws and then explain it to the people in the next process. Since the power should not be handed over to the opposition party without such judgment and Chairman Lee Jae-myung should not become president, it seems that President Yoon opposes the impeachment no matter what he did and that the position of the people's power is justified is to see only a few supporters and do politics.

Those who have that position will not change who becomes the emergency committee chairman, and there will be no party reform or separation from President Yoon. In that sense, the people will feel that whether Kwon Sung-dong, the floor leader, is one-top, whether it is Kwon Young-se, another lawmaker, or Na Kyung-won, they do not change much. I don't know who will be the next person.Ma thinks that no matter who becomes the chairman of the emergency committee, it will be difficult to avoid such stigma as a rebellion, an anti-impeachment party, and an unconstitutional party.

[Anchor]
So far, I've talked with Kim Ki-heung, a deputy spokesman for the former presidential office, and Park Won-seok, a former lawmaker of the Justice Party. Thank you.