This time, we're going to have a conflict between Korea and Chu...Internal conflict over 'Special Inspector Yongsan'

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■ Starring: Attorney Seo Jeong-wook, Attorney Lee Seung-hoon

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[Anchor]
A political commentary with a living angle, starting at the stroke of the hour. Today, lawyer Seo Jung-wook and lawyer Lee Seung-hoon came out. Welcome. Let's watch today's first keyword through a video.

[Anchor]
Should I express it as a conflict between autumn and autumn, not a light from Yoon Han-gal? This is how the conflict between the two-top floor of the people's power arose. When representative Han Dong-hoon took out the special inspector card, this was the floor's job. The floor leader is in charge of it. Floor leader Choo Kyung-ho said this, but are you saying that the party leader should leave?

[Lee Seung Hoon]
That's right. There's no end to the conflict. From the people's point of view, it would seem very hateful. The conflict seems to deepen within the ruling party because floor leader Choo Kyung-ho is working like this at the Yongsan branch office of President Yoon Suk Yeol and the chief of staff. The special inspector believes that there is a reason why CEO Han Dong-hoon presented it.

The reason is that it's a bit burdensome to go to the special prosecutor right now, so I think I talked about the special inspector in the form of a stepping stone. So, before going to the special prosecutor, I think I'm pushing for a special inspector to investigate Kim Gun-hee's misconduct and other things to check the content relationship and to show the people that they didn't produce results right now, but they also achieved results called special inspectors. I think it is right to consult with floor leader Kyung-ho quickly to resolve the bad news in the direction the people want, whether they are special inspectors or special prosecutors.

[Anchor]
This is a matter of the floor. It is not up to the party leader, not even a member of the National Assembly. Regarding floor leader Choo Kyung-ho's story, representative Han Dong-hoon expressed, "I took out a knife in the media today." Let's hear what they said.

[Anchor]
What are you talking about, the party leader is in charge of both floor and outside the party. I refuted it like this. How is it right to look at it?

[Jungwook Seo]
I don't think that argument itself is wrong.

[Anchor]
CEO Han Dong-hoon's argument?

[Jungwook Seo]
Yes, I admit that the party leader is the leader of the party who oversees the affairs of the floor even if it is outside the party. However, the current party theory of people's power is the North Korean Human Rights Foundation. The Human Rights Foundation hasn't recommended moving in eight years. So the Human Rights Foundation should also recommend 10 people, including 5 people in the National Assembly. I connected this to the special inspector.

This is the party's current theory of people's power. Therefore, if representative Han Dong-hoon has a party theory like this, he can recommend a special inspector after consulting with the floor leader about the process of changing the party's theory. It's not like the president won't accept it. The president also wants to receive it unconditionally. However, there is no need to link procedures or standards to change the party's theory. I have this regret that I would have liked to have discussed this.

[Anchor]
a distant two-top Representative Han Dong-hoon and floor leader Choo Kyung-ho are as follows. We prepared a graphic. It would be nice if you could show it to us. CEO Han Dong-hoon is like this. As the controversy over First Lady Kim Gun-hee is so rampant, a special inspector should be introduced. And that point is that we need to resolve it before the first trial of Representative Lee Jae-myung, that is, before the 15th of next month. Floor leader Choo Kyung-ho will be decided at a general meeting of lawmakers. That's why I'm the floor leader. This is the argument. And if lawmakers gather their opinions, they will do it before November 15, but it could take longer. I think it's mixed at this point and the way it is.

[Lee Seung Hoon]
In the case of representative Han Dong-hoon, the president rejected his proposal after the dinner. Public sentiment is leaving. That's why I think we should do a special inspector first. Didn't floor leader Choo Kyung-ho call right after the president talked with representative Han Dong-hoon? In the end, I think it's an isolation operation against CEO Han Dong-hoon.

Floor leader Choo Kyung-ho also acts like a chief of staff, but the president is okay with being a special inspector, but I think it will be very burdensome for the president. Now, if appointed right away, we will continue to talk about Mrs. Kim Gun-hee's Deutsche Motors and suspicions of pollack.

If I say so, it will be a burden, so I think I'll refuse it eventually, but it's true that floor leader Choo Kyung-ho is the floor leader.Ma should listen to the party leader even if it is a matter to be decided at the general meeting of the lawmakers. If the party leader is not involved in the floor, it is meaningless as a party leader. So, like President Yoon Suk Yeol, floor leader Choo Kyung-ho seems to be playing a role that seems to insult the party leader and undermine his authority.

[Anchor]
Some point out the problem that CEO Han Dong-hoon did not discuss in advance. It is pointed out that it is wrong to say that the floor leader is out of the party.

[Jungwook Seo]
That's what I'm saying. I think the party leader consulted with the floor leader and the party's theory happened to be linked with the North Korean Human Rights Foundation. It's best to discuss changing this party line. But the question is whether the Democratic Party will receive a special inspector. If the National Assembly recommends three people, the president appoints them.

However, the Democratic Party of Korea has not appointed him since President Moon Jae In. Why? It's troublesome to investigate things like Moon Da-hye Thailand. It's been vacant for five years, and this time the Democratic Party seems to oppose the special inspector. Why? The public opinion of the special prosecutor is diluting. The Democratic Party of Korea wants to conduct an independent counsel, Kim Gun-hee. But the special inspector has less than 10 investigators. So, I think the Democratic Party should respond and recommend three people because representative Han Dong-hoon wants to do it? There's this question.

[Anchor]
Whether the Democratic Party will receive it later or not is a matter of the future, and the party is not being organized. Right now, the closeness community shows their displeasure or disappointment, and on the day of the meeting with the president, floor leader Choo Kyung-ho went to dinner without even talking to representative Han Dong-hoon. There's something you're disappointed about. How do you see that?

[Jungwook Seo]
Personally, I think there can be disappointment. But the problem is that we also have to look back on what CEO Han Dong-hoon did before that. CEO Lee Jae-myung asked me to meet him, but let's just meet right away. This means that Lee Jae-myung is used as leverage to intimidate or intimidate the president. If you don't listen to my request, you can talk to Lee Jae-myung and do it.

I mean, do we need to confirm the meeting with representative Lee Jae-myung quickly before meeting the president? There's a problem with this, too. Then, among the representatives of the party meeting with the president, I asked for a prototype with a table in advance, and I had never heard of this. We can usually go when the president asks us to have a meeting, but we don't have to do a round table. I also covered it, and he said he wouldn't do it at first if chief of staff Jeong Jin-seok joined.

I'm saying that he managed to soothe this. Chief of Staff Jeong Jin-seok said, "You shouldn't join the team and you should do it 1:1," and at first, he asked for it like this. I have a problem with this, too. Anyway, the important thing is to look back on whether CEO Han Dong-hoon has formality and courtesy. Of course, I think that the president's dinner of extra budget can also alienate people.

[Anchor]
Isn't it true that there were many objections to the view that the circular table was more suitable for protocol when I argued from the perspective of the president's office? How do you see that?

[Jungwook Seo]
So it's good if you do it in the original form, and if you don't, that's all Raising this as a requirement for dialogue has never been a case like this among previous ruling party representatives.

[Anchor]
Anyway, floor leader Choo Kyung-ho said, "This is the floor's job," and the top committee did not come today. Of course, they say it's because they have to go to another event. I don't seem to hide my unpleasant feelings.

[Lee Seung Hoon]
However, if representative Han Dong-hoon pushes strongly for the promotion of a special inspector now and is rejected by the floor leader and the floor members, it could hurt his leadership again. So I think I should think carefully, and even if I push for a special inspector, there is a possibility that it will be rejected, I would rather go to a three-party recommendation special prosecutor law through an agreement between the ruling and opposition parties.

I think that's the orthodoxy. What does it have to do with a North Korean human rights director and a special inspector? In fact, the Moon Jae In government did not appoint a special inspector. I thought this was wrong too, how much did the power of the people criticize then?

Nevertheless, the fact that they do not appoint even the power of the people now means that they do not want to show their inner feelings about their misconduct. Rather than the president saying he would accept it if the ruling and opposition parties agreed, he told floor leader Choo Kyung-ho, "Yes, that's good." I'll be given a special inspector, so be positive at the general meeting of lawmakers. You have to say it like this. Otherwise, it can be seen as a hypocritical act because the special inspector only wants to use words and the floor leader Choo Kyung-ho in the background.

[Anchor]
I think it would be good to express that the pro-yoon world is bubbling. Representative Kwon Sung-dong said this about representative Han Dong-hoon today. Let's listen to it.

[Anchor]
It is dogmatic politics in the pro-yun world. I'm criticizing it like this. I think it's a claim that there was no communication with floor leader Choo Kyung-ho.

[Jungwook Seo]
That's right. It's the same as what I just said. I'm saying that it wasn't right to discuss it enough to change the party's theory. But maybe if I do a gun, I'm the opposite of linking it. You shouldn't keep connecting the two unfair things. I really need to recommend a director of the North Korean Human Rights Foundation. I haven't done it for 8 years. But I oppose the connection between this and the special inspector. It means that the president will receive it unconditionally.

[Anchor]
You said you'd get it if the ruling and opposition parties agreed.

[Seo Jung-wook]
Yes, so it is right to change the party's stance this time and discuss the issue of directors of the North Korean Human Rights Foundation separately and recommend three special inspectors this time. However, as was the case a while ago, whether the Democratic Party of Korea will receive it or not, the Democratic Party of Korea must go to the special prosecutor's office. You have to watch that.

[Anchor]
When there is a general meeting of lawmakers, it usually goes by a majority vote. Floor leader Choo Kyung-ho of the National Assembly said he would hold it after the parliamentary inspection. You said you'd open it, but if that happens, how many people are close to you?

[Lee Seung Hoon]
I think we can go with a vote contest. Didn't you have a dinner with about 20 representatives Han Dong-hoon this time? However, if there were about 10 more lawmakers to come, I think there could be more pro-Yoon if there were 30 more. And I don't think the special inspector is welcoming to President Yoon Suk Yeol, so I can follow CEO Han Dong-hoon more.Ma will go to the vote without agreeing with floor leader Choo Kyung-ho? I think it's going to be very burdensome. During the Yoon Han meeting, there was a lot of sympathy, saying that the president neglected too much to representative Han Dong-hoon and insulted him. However, if the special inspector mentioned at the general meeting is rejected, leadership may be hurt.

[Anchor]
You don't think it's safe to see?

[Lee Seung Hoon]
I think it's very likely that it won't work. So floor leader Choo Kyung-ho would actually feel bad. I said I was going to have dinner before, but I canceled it, but I only told floor leader Choo Kyung-ho and didn't tell CEO Han Dong-hoon. I was insulted again this time, during the interview. It was just Choo Kyung-ho, the floor leader. From CEO Han Dong-hoon's point of view, it would feel very bad, but nevertheless, I think it is necessary to persuade him a little through dialogue.

[Anchor]
In any case, the two-top shouldn't fight if the party wants to go back, so how do I solve this?

[Jungwook Seo]
There is no special way to solve two-top, but you have to meet often to communicate, talk, and compromise. I think it will probably change to the recommendation of a special inspector. This is not a matter of being friendly and friendly. For example, even if I'm a pro-yoon lawmaker, I'm often classified as pro-yoon wherever I go. But aren't you asking me to recommend it without linking the special inspector?

[Anchor]
So this part isn't Chin Yoon?

[Jungwook Seo]
I think it's the middle. But anyway, it's not a matter of pro-yoon or pro-friendly relations, but it's decided by law without linking the North Korean Human Rights Foundation, so it's necessary to recommend it quickly. It should be different from the five years of the Moon Jae In administration. It's the president's pledge, and the president said he would accept it unconditionally. I think all of the pro-Yoon lawmakers will agree.

[Anchor]
Is that so? I think it's going to go over. This is how you see it, right?

[Jungwook Seo]
Yes.

[Anchor]
When Han Dong-hoon takes out the special inspector system as a card in official appearances, he will also meet with Lee Jae-myung, but didn't he take it out because he was confident in negotiations with the opposition party? How do you see it?

[Lee Seung Hoon]
Rather than being confident, I want to do something now, but I'm blocked by a wall called the president of Yoon Suk Yeol. So I think he wants to do something through a meeting with the opposition leader. In particular, I think I would like to propose a ruling-opposition political consultative body. I think I'd like to propose the special inspector issue and use it as a process before moving on to the special prosecutor. Nevertheless, if we don't solve our internal problems with floor leader Choo Kyung-ho now, representative Han Dong-hoon could be isolated again. So I think I need to persuade him, and lawyer Seo Jeong-wook says he knows President Yoon Suk Yeol well, but I don't think he knows it yet, but I think it's one of the walls that can't overcome the issue of the special inspector.

[Anchor]
You said you'd get it, but you don't think it's true?

[Lee Seung Hoon]
I don't think I mean it. The reason is that as soon as representative Han Dong-hoon goes, he calls floor leader Choo Kyung-ho and invites Daegu Mayor Hong Joon Pyo to dinner. Operation isolation against Han Dong-hoon and preventing him from doing what he wants to do. I think he will take that path because he thinks it is to lower CEO Han Dong-hoon's character and reduce CEO Han Dong-hoon's leadership.

[Anchor]
Before looking at the next topic, lawyer Seo Jeong-wook briefly said, "There are some people who don't know the special inspector system. Please briefly explain how this will lead to an investigation and how it will help resolve suspicions.

[Jungwook Seo]
Now, the target is relatives within cousins, including the president's spouse, and only the chief. There are seven people in Hannam-dong. It doesn't apply to administrators or secretaries. So, there are up to 10 people in the investigation and inspection of senior or higher and cousins. There are usually 10 deputy inspectors under the inspector. Therefore, it was introduced during the Park Geun Hye presidency. Lee Seok-soo, the inspector, handed over Woo Byung-woo for the last time. It's been vacant since I resigned, until now. [Anchor] Is the number of investigators decided by agreement between the ruling and opposition parties? The

[Seo Jung-wook]
Act says that there can be a maximum of 10 people.

[Anchor]
Anyway, the party is in a very noisy situation, and Daegu Mayor Hong Joon Pyo is also raising the level of offensive against representative Han Dong-hoon these days. Please show us the next topic. The lightness of today's SNS. I wrote these words. Mayor of Daegu, Hong Joon Pyo, I'll show you a graphic of what I wrote. Yesterday, coincidentally, Daegu Mayor Hong Joon Pyo, who met the president, posted this.

He said, "A meeting with the president should be a place to resolve pending issues. We should not run the country lightly." I posted a message saying, "Be careful." He criticized the party leader quite intensely. It's a coincidence, right?

[Lee Seung Hoon]
That's right. I'm talking about CEO Han Dong-hoon, but I think Mayor Hong Joon Pyo is also talking about him. It's a very serious situation right now, and it's a situation of confusion between the party leader and the president. Rather, it is a situation where it is said to be at war, but if you go to the same place as floor leader Choo Kyung-ho and just eat and criticize the ruling party leader, the front line will widen.

Nevertheless, from his point of view, he seems to be differentiating himself from Han Dong-hoon by highlighting these things, saying that I will be the next president later, and that President Yoon Suk Yeol is pushing me aside Han Dong-hoon, and the president is also taking care of TK's promises. That's why I think it's a strategy that puts CEO Han Dong-hoon on the back burner, saying that the president will go with us because he is taking special care of TK. I don't think it's going to work for the people at this time.

[Anchor]
Anyway, after meeting with representative Han Dong-hoon, President Yoon Suk Yeol also felt frustrated. If you look at the schedule, you can think of that. After calling floor leader Choo Kyung-ho right away for dinner, and visiting Beomeosa Temple, he discussed Daegu Mayor Hong Joon Pyo and, of course, regional issues, but if you look at the name, there is a speculation that he met people who wanted to talk about his inner feelings.

[Jungwook Seo]
However, I do what has been scheduled for a long time in advance, and I wonder if the mayor of Hong Joon Pyo would have made me feel comfortable when I met him. However, I like lightness. I don't agree with this expression, but if you look at the hidden meaning, CEO Han Dong-hoon has something to listen to.

Before the meeting with the president, we already disclosed all three requirements to the media. This is not polite to me, I look at it like this. In particular, there is a reorganization of the Kim Gun-hee line in Hannam-dong, right? You have to be specific about this, too, so there are a lot of absurd parts. I shouldn't do this again, but for example, I ran in Songpa, and you told me to gather Kim.

I'm in the presidential office's personnel secretary's office. She doesn't even know Kim Gun-hee's cell phone number. There are a lot of people like this. There are a lot of people who are really upset. Really. This fan named Hwangmo, too. So write down everything specifically and give a reason if the president is in a bad mood. Aren't I the one who cut 100 people?

[Anchor]
Representative Han Dong-hoon is now saying that he has specifically named it.

[Jungwook Seo]
But did it give the parties a chance to object? It's a matter of the lives of the people concerned, but you're Kim Gun-hee's line without any basis, so it has to be sorted out, I don't think this is right. Then, give the person in charge a chance to explain. Isn't this what you're talking about in the market? The lightness of the Hong Joon Pyo market is said to be a miscellaneous talk in the market. With this, I think Kim Gun-hee line pointed out this as if it were real.

[Anchor]
I don't know exactly what Representative Hong Joon Pyo pointed out. Anyway, it seems that after the meeting with the President, Bum Chin Yoon-gye's attacks on Representative Han Dong-hoon are intensifying. Governor Kim Tae-heum of South Chungcheong Province also said, "What kind of factional boss are you?" It is frustrating to me like an amateur.

I criticized him like this, but he said he got a complaint call. So I asked CEO Han Dong-hoon, who called me, if he was upset because I said something that was difficult to hear, and CEO Han Dong-hoon said that it was not a disappointing word, but a curse. They saw such expressions as prosecutoriality and attention-seeking as curses. I revealed this to the media. Did you call the media again when you revealed that you called to complain, or did you call to say hello and this happened?

[Lee Seung Hoon]
So now, the leadership of the people's power and the heads of local governments seem very narrow. So I'm saying that my authority has been tarnished a lot, and I think CEO Han Dong-hoon can call me. If you feel bad, you can call me.

[Anchor]
You can refute it.

[Lee Seung Hoon]
That's right. I feel bad about this. Governor, let's get along well from now on. You can do it like this. It would have been better if it had finished better in that way, but what Governor Kim Tae-heum said was that the end was not good in the end. So I thought that both of you weren't good.

In particular, I think this is one thing the mayor of Hong Joon Pyo has said. The president said he took care of regional issues and even called his chief of staff and policy chief to apply. Then you're saying that you had a private conversation. Representative Han Dong-hoon sat next to the chief of staff and talked with the president, and when he talked about regional issues, the president called the policy chief and the chief of staff.

That's why I ordered this, so CEO Han Dong-hoon is not able to have a private meeting, but I think I'm having a private meeting. President Han Dong-hoon won the Geumjeong-gu election by a landslide. That's why I think he was trying to comfort the public sentiment of TK and PK by visiting Beomeosa Temple in Geumjeong-gu and visiting the Hong Joon Pyo market.

[Anchor]
Anyway, the aftermath after the interview seems to be considerable. The president did not comply with representative Han Dong-hoon's request at all. Representative Han Dong-hoon argued like this, but this morning, Representative Kwon Sung-dong interpreted it as actually fulfilling his request. Let's listen to it.

[Anchor]
First of all, it seems to be interpreted as a different result from most media, but lawmaker Kwon Sung-dong insists that he will accept it with time, although he is not willing to accept it right away due to the nature of the president.

[Jungwook Seo]
I don't think I'm empty-handed either.

[Anchor]
Aren't all three Xs?

[Seo Jung-wook]
It can be about a triangle. For example, you also explained the problem of Mrs. Kim Gun-hee in detail. Even now, there is no suspicion and he is struggling. Even now, I am controlling myself as much as I can. You're restraining yourself right now. I don't know the essential foreign trip. Have you been anywhere since Mapo Bridge? That's right.

I've explained the situation enough, and then there are 8 or 7 people. a reorganization of personnel lines If you tell the chief of staff specifically about this, I'll review it, and if you did this, wouldn't you have accepted about half of it? Then, okay, let's cut it all on the spot. I can't do it like this, right?

Then, the president met Kim Jong-in and cleared up the issue of Myung Tae-kyun, and the first lady had no choice but to take longer. Didn't you cooperate with the fact-finding in detail? I didn't completely accept it 100%, but I didn't completely ignore CEO Han Dong-hoon's opinion.

[Anchor]
Then, if you refer to the lawyer's story about the three demands, you think all three are triangles?

[Jungwook Seo]
That's how I see it. As a president, I think he answered in detail with the utmost sincerity.

[Anchor]
All three are triangles. In this regard, CEO Han Dong-hoon said, "Don't adapt it." You didn't say yes or no.

[Lee Seung Hoon]
That's right. From the public's point of view, it's very uncomfortable that Mrs. Kim Kun-hee keeps getting caught up in these gossip and illegal suspicions. Then, the president or the first lady can say, "I'm sorry, I'll keep my promise from now on," but I can't be seen quietly and silently.

From the perspective of the presidential office, I don't think this is a good response. Also, regarding personnel reshuffling, he asked where the Kim Gun-hee line is, but bring it more specifically in this meeting. Looking at that, should I report it in detail to the media as well? In that respect, I don't think the president has accepted it.

[Anchor]
The Democratic Party of Korea has this move at a time when internal conflicts are exploding to the point where the power of the people is now causing a conflict between the two top. Please show us the last topic. They're promoting innocence. Lawyer Lee Seung-hoon, please explain this. You're going to make a video promoting your innocence, what are you going to promote?

[Lee Seung Hoon]
Rather than public relations, the prosecution is now prosecuting and trying against representative Lee Jae-myung by Rep. Han Joon-ho or the Prosecution's Anti-Dictatorship Committee, which is removing static and unfairly attacking representative Lee Jae-myung as evidence is distorted or edited. We are arguing, discussing, and having meetings on these things, and I will make a video of these things and tell the public about the wrong part of the prosecution right now.

[Anchor]
It's called Lee Jae-myung's innocence. Rep. Han Joon-ho took the lead. Let's listen to what we talked about yesterday.

[Anchor]
The first trial ruling is on the 15th and 25th of next month, right? I'm going to make a video promoting my innocence ahead of the first trial, how did you see it?

[Jungwook Seo]
There are three to four of these. At first, in the parliamentary inspection, lawmakers continue to pressure the court presidents, saying Lee Jae-myung is innocent. Does this make sense? at the parliamentary inspection, involved in the trial Next, this is the Women's Forum. Forum with the Women and the People. There are about 40 people there. They have two public hearings, perjury teachers, and then there's an election law, right? I just did this. Let's talk about this.

There's one more. Four people wrote a book called the Republic of Prosecution. Professor Seo of Korea University or Professor Seo of Kyung Hee University are innocent. We had a debate like this. Lee Jae-myung is not guilty by continuing to mobilize all of his public opinion ahead of the trial. It's very inappropriate.

[Anchor]
Apart from promoting innocence, the government's plan headquarters began to operate. There is also a view that this is actually a transition team concept to prepare for impeachment.

[Lee Seung Hoon]
I think the two should be separated. For example, if you are preparing for a ruling cabinet, it can be seen as a future plan with impeachment in mind, but now this is a ruling plan for how the Democratic Party of Korea can take power after the Yoon Suk Yeol government is over.

However, when it comes to the ruling cabinet, I think we should look at the people's faces a little bit. In fact, the Yoon Suk Yeol government is about two and a half years away, but the people are having a hard time. They say, "How do you have that much left?" So, if the Democratic Party takes over the government while the Yoon Suk Yeol government's national engine is lost, I will tell you that it is necessary to prepare for the ruling plan to improve the lives of the people.

[Jungwook Seo]
In a word, this is the height of presidential play. He's playing the presidential game. It's the four headquarters of the ruling plan headquarters. This is not how to take power, this is not how to do it, but Shadow Cabinets, when I was in power, I will say this. This is what I'm going to do, I'm going to finish the president of Yoon Suk Yeol quickly. Impeachment, resignation. After this, I'm already the president of the judiciary. I think this is the pressure of how to punish me.

[Anchor]
Only the Democratic Party of Korea seems to know the implications of the ruling plan headquarters and the name, but I think we can see what that means by looking at future activities. It was Seo Jeong-wook and Lee Seung-hoon. Thank you.