[YTN radio news fighting]
□ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (07:15-09:00)
□ Broadcast date and time: December 20, 2024 (Fri)
□ Host: Kim Woo-sung PD
□ Cast member: Kim Jae-won, Supreme Council member of the People's Power
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◆ PD Kim Woosung (hereinafter referred to as Kim Woosung): Yes, I think this signal music is very appetizing. Not appetite but information desire and knowledge desire. There is also a desire to know the world, and it solves that well. We inform you at the <News Pajeon> time when you dig and predict the news right away. Today, let's hear from Kim Jae-won, the supreme council member of the People's Power. How are you, Commissioner?
◇ Kim Jae-won, former member of the National Power Supreme Council (hereinafter referred to as Kim Jae-won): Hello.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: The situation in the party is very complicated. How did it feel?
◇ Our party can't be quiet right now. Of course. Furthermore, we are the most central political force in the conservative camp, the president produced by our party is now facing impeachment, and he ended his post with impeachment just before. The president of Lee Myung Bak right in front of him was arrested again after leaving office, so he could not actually play much of a role as a former president. Then this conservative camp is not a normal crisis. No matter how different we can talk about it, we should think that the existence of conservative political forces itself is in crisis. In that sense, internally, we are actually looking for various directions with a considerable sense of crisis, but when it comes out, it comes out looking a little confused.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, as you said, it's a crisis that has come many times. Of course, most of the people support conservative values and the basic principles of the Republic of Korea, so you have to represent and capture their voices. In order to overcome the current crisis, we need to do the emergency committee chairman's personality first. In other words, they need to lead the party's direction, but they need to distance themselves from President Yoon. All kinds of things have been said, but I was in the dark until yesterday. But I think it's decided to separate the emergency committee chairman and the floor leader.
◇ Kim Jae-won: There's a story like that, but I don't think it's set. People from all walks of life, especially first-term lawmakers, second-term lawmakers, third-term lawmakers, and fourth-term or higher-term lawmakers, are collecting their thoughts, but yesterday's story from a group of first-term lawmakers is too burdensome for the party leader to be a floor leader. So, I think there was an opinion that the emergency committee chairman and the floor leader should be separated. It seems that there is a high possibility that it will be decided in that direction, but I don't think it is.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: You mean there's a possibility, it's a little big. Kwon Sung-dong, the floor leader, is currently acting as the representative, and there is a prospect that he may become the chairman of the emergency committee, but look at the possibility to some extent.
◇ Kim Jae-won: So it meant whether to separate the floor leader and the emergency committee chairman, or whether one person is in charge of it and quickly reorganize the party. It seems that the group of first-time lawmakers said that it is right to separate.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: So Rep. Kim Jae-seop is also mentioned. He opposed the first impeachment and is still a young lawmaker. Is it because of the party's sense of crisis that these people appeared? Are you saying that we should show a completely new side of us?
◇ [Kim Jae-won] That kind of story has appeared, but I don't think it's collected. So it's seen as an opinion. I don't think I'm just claiming it as a trend again.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, so in fact, Supreme Council member Kim Jae-won has an understanding of politics in general, but he is also very knowledgeable about the power of the people. Isn't there any expression that someone is supported by, say, the conservative metropolitan area? Please give me a guide.
◇ Kim Jae-won: But more than that, as we usually say now, the water is clear, the pavilion is good, the scenery is good, and we can't have everything, especially if we keep choosing people like that, I think it'll be very difficult. In short, would our party be in such a crisis if there was someone who was innovative, stable, capable, harmonious, young, and supported in the metropolitan area? It is not something to think about now, but the current crisis is the crisis of the entire conservative camp. I think it would be appropriate to select someone who can reduce the risk even if they take charge of the current situation for a while and operate it at least so that they are not the target of the attack. You're the chairman of the emergency committee. It will be quite difficult to find a beautiful person who will take on the emergency situation.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: Still, the phrase 'in the floor rather than in the party' continues to be emphasized.
◇ Kim Jae-won: At a time like this, the conservative camp always wanted to bring someone with a good image from outside, so in fact, they used to bring the chairman of the emergency committee in a way that consumes the image, but it was not successful rather than successful. And there seems to be a lot of reflection on this, saying, "Let's stop entrusting the government of our party to someone who suddenly appears one day."
◆ [Kim Woosung] Okay. Kim Dae-sik, the spokesman for the People's Power Party, appeared on the program yesterday and said, "All 108 ruling party lawmakers should apologize to the people when the situation of the party is settled." Many people interpret this as meaning that they should distance themselves from the December 3 emergency martial law and civil war charges. How do you see this?
◇ Kim Jae-won: There's a story like that right now, but there should be a lot more measures and more. However, what I remember in the past is that after the local election defeat, lawmakers called the National Assembly Central Hall, Rotender Hall. I put a big banner on it. We're sorry. I sat down and took a picture, and when I looked at the pictures of the scene, they looked very bad, just like the gang members who were forcibly suppressed. What the people want is that the lawmakers are wrong. It's not that you sit down and take a picture, but that you want to shake off the true changes in the party and your past mistakes, and it's not good to laugh and break up after taking a picture. Plaster crime refers to the way in which politicians did wrong in the past by loosening their hair and sitting on a giant stand. Now, it would be better for politicians not to rush to such events, but to think more about what directions they can take to improve their constitution and gain trust from the people.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, issues such as the chairman of the emergency committee for external personnel and the plaster crime. We should not deviate from the people's minds with such an image and make essential changes in the party. That was Kim Jae-won, the supreme council member. In fact, I think it will probably be revealed in various political consultations with the ruling and opposition parties and mutual consultations on state administration. In that sense, opinions are already being divided. Acting President Han Deok-soo exercised his right to request a reconsideration of six bills passed by the opposition party. He added the premise that it was difficult and that his heart was heavy, but the power of the Democratic Party and the people drew a tight parallel line again.
◇ [Kim Jae-won] Right. However, it has already been pointed out how wrong these six bills are, and when they are implemented, it has been pointed out that they cause significant problems in the national economy, government finances, and even business management. It was a bill that had to be vetoed by such a realistic need, and in fact, Democrats could do anything if they decided that the president would not veto it when they were in power. Nevertheless, bills that are very dangerous and cause chaos in the national finances and the national economy are laws that they didn't even look at and showed interest in at the time. However, the Yoon Suk Yeol government brought this bill and said it would be legislated. In fact, I think there are many people who think that they are more likely to take power and feel that this bill should not be passed. The Democratic Party has changed so much more than once. So, of course, this bill should be vetoed, and if it is re-decided at the plenary session of the National Assembly, it should be scrapped by voting against it.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: In fact, in the case of the grain management law, there are reports that there was a request for reconsideration once during the Moon Jae In government. It's something we need to check. What effect will the bill actually have on the market? We cannot discuss in detail whether there will be adverse effects on various markets as well as farmers' stability, but after this, the Democratic Party of Korea said it would impeach Prime Minister Han Deok-soo, but took a step back from there. What's the purpose of your reading?
◇ [Kim Jae-won] They're just using impeachment as a means of blackmail. I think this is impeachment addiction. At first, I was very careful about impeachment, but now it's impeachment whenever I open my mouth. There are already 14 impeachments pending in the Constitutional Court, including the impeachment of the president, which is now threatening Prime Minister Han Deok-soo with impeachment. That's the aspect. If he vetoed it, he said he would impeach it, claiming it was an illegal act. However, as I said earlier, the Democratic Party must have been worried about the fact that these six bills were actually passed and implemented as bills. However, as the bill was blocked by the people's power, I think it was a law that was politically abused as a means to win some votes by saying to the stakeholders, "Oh, we tried to do it, but those people didn't let us do it." That's why they've achieved their goals. If the National Assembly requests a reconsideration at the plenary session and a majority of the registered members attend and two-thirds of the attendance vote to approve it, wouldn't it be discarded? Then, 'Oh, we tried to be nice to everyone, but the power of the people was wrong. ’ If you do this, it's over. That's why this bill, even though it would be considered normal to be in question, tried to impeach Prime Minister Han Deok-soo, claiming that it was unconstitutional, but he never did.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: I meant the right to demand reconsideration. Let me ask you when we connect to the Democratic Party. In this situation, in fact, there are bills like this and the Special Prosecutor Act. What is the limit of acting president Han Deok-soo's appointment of various justices of the Constitutional Court? You shouldn't do this. You have to do this, too. The ruling and opposition parties are in different positions.
◇ Kim Jae-won: You're acting as the president. The commander-in-chief is also exercising right now.
◆ [Kim Woo-sung] We're practically exercising it.
◇ [Kim Jae-won] So you can't exercise some authority. I don't think there's a big standard for exercising. However, there is one aspect of this. The president is not in a state of vacancy, but this expression is called an accident. The president is temporarily unable to exercise the authority, and the authority is suspended and exercised instead. So in the past, President Reagan was shot and had heart surgery, and he couldn't perform his duties because he was anesthetized and operated for two days. Then, in the meantime, the president makes the final choice to wage a nuclear war called a nuclear button, and the vice president exercises that authority temporarily. For example, the president of Roh Moo Hyun has also had surgery in the past. In that case, will it be possible to hand over the authority of the state administration? Given that both such a short period and the ongoing impeachment at the Constitutional Court are accidents, can't the acting president suddenly appoint ministers, for example, in a short period of time? In that sense, the logic is established not to appoint judges of the Constitutional Court. However, there is a deadline for the right to reject the bill. The president can't exercise his authority during that time, so of course he has to exercise his authority in time. Therefore, the right to appoint constitutional judges should be restrained in our party. Or it's the logic that you shouldn't appoint.
◆ [Kim Woo-sung] He's saying that some political things are drawn, and realistically, things related to bills that have a deadline are being exercised and separated a little bit. In fact, the aftermath has grown this much because it is under investigation for the December 3 emergency martial law and civil war. In this regard, the in-house group chat room has been released. Some media outlets are reporting this, writing it in many places, and the party is very embarrassed.
◇ Kim Jae-won: I've never seen it before.
◆ It was released without any addition or subtraction. How was it? He also looked a little confused. Floor leader Choo Kyung-ho is talking about why he told me to go to work and go to the temple.
◇ Kim Jae-won: But I've heard about the situation indirectly, and didn't representative Choo Kyung-ho say that we should hold a general meeting at the National Assembly at first? But the party leader announces again that the company will hold a supreme meeting. So, then let's hold a general meeting of lawmakers at the company. Initially, it was supposed to be held at the National Assembly, but it was the company's supreme meeting. So, then let's hold a general meeting of lawmakers together at the company, and since the National Assembly can still enter, let's hold a general meeting of lawmakers at the National Assembly. I think it's like going back and forth. This was not properly connected at the scene, and what is clear from the situation is that there is no intention of preventing lawmakers from entering the plenary session of the National Assembly.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: I'm not in a situation to think about intentions or things like that.
◇ [Kim Jae-won] Right. Because at first, the National Assembly wanted to hold a general meeting, but when the company asked for a top meeting, the company asked for a general meeting of lawmakers, and then the National Assembly said it would be held again, so it seems like a complicated process like asking to go to the National Assembly again.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: Lastly, Myung Tae-kyun is also arrested and being investigated, and Jeon Sung-bae, known as the so-called Geonjin Buddhist monk, is also under investigation right now. These issues are actually a little bad news. How should we interpret this?
◇ Kim Jae-won: I don't know what he's doing, but all I heard about during the presidential election was in 2022. But what I got paid for now is the 2018 local election. So it's actually personal corruption long before President Yoon Suk Yeol actually entered politics. What he has done since then will be revealed through further investigation, which is a kind of case that the original investigation was in the 2018 local elections when President Yoon Suk Yeol was the chief prosecutor of Seoul at the time. It's time to investigate for a long time. However, the media is now reporting the incident as if an incident related to some political sector recently broke out.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: We have to separate. It is about an incident that happened long before the presidential election.
◇ Kim Jae-won: And strictly speaking, it's often called a separate investigation, but what we're investigating right now is that in 2018. I don't know what happened after that, but he said he's under investigation now, so I don't know if it's some kind of judicial phone or something as if something big is going to happen. They're all scammers, but since when has Korea been so interested in scammers and shamans? If you look at Myung Tae-kyun, he continued to commit fraudulent crimes and record phone calls with other people, threatening them, and lying whenever he opened his mouth. He said he had a smartphone and said he didn't have it, but he said he had it again, and now he says it's been revealed. In the end, I'm a person who will only make noise. It's basically criminals. Whether it's health or pollack, I hope you can punish them as soon as possible in order to wipe out fraud.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: We need to wipe out the fraud. At the end of this, the time is about 10 or 20 seconds, but the results of the trial of former lieutenant governor Lee Hwa-young came out. Let's briefly see how Lee Jae-myung will be affected.
◇ Kim Jae-won: The possibility of Lee Jae-myung being convicted has increased, and I think the presidential election should be held after Lee Jae-myung is judged judicially and the criminal punishment of Lee Jae-myung is revealed to fit the notion of justice.
◆ [Kim Woosung] Okay. So far, Kim Jae-won has been the supreme council member of the People's Power. Thank you.
◇ [Kim Jae-won] Thank you.
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