- Resigning the chief of security, taking responsibility for the execution of the arrest
- There are no regulations related to the investigation of rebellion in the Airborne Division Act
- The starting point of all divisions is '尹 investigation by Airborne Division'
- 尹's refusal to comply with the investigation? Because we don't have authority in the Airborne Division.
◆ [YTN Radio SHINYUL's news]
■ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (17:00-19:00)
■ Air date: January 10, 2025 (Friday)
■ Proceedings: Shin Yul, Professor of Political Science and Diplomacy at Myongji University
■ Talk: Jeon Ju-hye, former member of the People's Power,
- Rising popular support? 'Democratic Party check public opinion'
- People's power should make fierce efforts to embrace the middle
- Special Prosecutor for Insurrection, adding 'foreign exchange crime' only with suspicions? away from one's national reputation
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◆Shinryul: Let's start the second part of Shinryul's news head-to-head match from YTN Radio. In today's front-facing interview for the second part. Let's solve the current political situation with former lawmaker Jeon Ju-hye, the power of the people. You're in the studio right now. Please come in.
◇Jeon Joo-hye: Nice to meet you. I'm Jeon Juhye.
◆ Shin Yul: I have a question. This morning, Chief of Security Park Jong-joon attended the police. At that time, there were all different analyses of what police attendance means or whether he would break up with President Yoon Suk Yeol. However, I submitted my resignation to Acting President Choi Sang-mok a while ago and it was accepted. I'm not the security chief anymore. Do you really think it's a break-up? What do you think?
◇ Jeon Joo-hye: If we are investigated today, we can't rule out the possibility of requesting a warrant, right? Therefore, the vacancy of the security chief could lead to an expected situation in which he cannot fulfill his responsibilities in the second arrest of the president of Yoon Suk Yeol, so I have a lot of final responsibilities, and I shouldn't create a vacancy. I think he probably expressed his resignation and received a police investigation with such determination.
◆ Shin-ryul: I'm not doing it to break up, but rather to do my best in my job. So if we say it's a blank state, are you saying there's a possibility that you'll be arrested after your arrest?
◇Jeon Joo-hye: Hasn't the investigation been completed yet?
◆ Shin Yul: It's not over.
◇Jeon Joo-hye: And there's also talk about the possibility of executing a warrant this evening. That's why we can't rule out the possibility of a warrant being executed in the absence of such a person. And wouldn't the police ask you again?
◆ Shin Yul: What do you want me to ask?
◇Jeon Joo-hye: What are you going to do then if you do the second round?
◆Sinryul: What's the plan?
◇Jeon Joo-hye: Then, of course, as the head of the security department, there is also a conflict point of law, so you have no choice but to take the same attitude as before. If you say this, it can be a point of concern whether the police should actually request a warrant. So, in that sense, it may have been quite burdensome for the person in charge of any kind of security service to be investigated by the police at the time of the re-execution. For example, with the attempted arrest and execution of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit now completely unable to do so, I don't think there was a need to even express my resignation if I attended at a time when no further warrant execution was expected.
◆ Shin Yul: But it's because there's a possibility?
◇ Jeon Joo-hye: But the president must be completely flawless in that regard because he has no choice but to prevent his execution as the head of the security agency, and in that case, the investigation could lead to his absence or vacancy. With that in mind, I think he expressed his resignation today and appeared to the police for the investigation.
◆ Shin Yul: The deputy head of the security agency is now the acting chief. Aren't we all acting as acting chief these days? I think it's much faster to choose a place that's not an acting authority. This is the acting system, but does the person who becomes the deputy head of the security service have nothing to do with the arrest warrant? What about him?
◇ Jeon Joo-hye: I'll probably be included in the summons to appear, but wouldn't Chief Park Jong-joon appear at the police today on behalf of him?
◆ Shin Yul: Do everything to me.
◇ Jeon Ju-hye: Because you're in charge.
◆ Shin Yul: Don't keep talking about summoning him.
◇ Jeon Joo-hye: I think I would have said that. If this interferes with the execution of official duties, the ultimate responsibility lies with me. Some of those subordinates follow my instructions, so if you say you want to punish me, please punish me. Instead, I hope you don't ask for punishment or anything for your subordinates. I think I would have talked about this.
◆ Shin Yul: I see. And do you think you're gonna execute the arrest? How do you see it?
◇Jeon Joo-hye: The arrest of President Yoon Suk Yeol?
◆ Credit: Execution of the warrant.
◇ Jeon Joo-hye: Didn't you take out the knife? The warrant has been extended. The arrest period has been extended, so the second arrest warrant has now been received for execution, and the timing is unknown, but the media reported that the first arrest warrant was received on the 7th, but the investigation agency is not revealing how many days it is now.
◆ Shin Yul: Some say it's two weeks.
◇Jeon Joo-hye: So I think we're working on the best strategy to succeed this time.
◆ Shin Yul: Since lawmaker Jeon Ju-hye was a judge, what do you think of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit?
◇ Jeon Joo-hye: I don't think the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit has the authority to investigate whether President Yoon Suk Yeol is guilty of rebellion. It's not that I don't think there is, it's not in the law. That's why the president of Yoon Suk Yeol held a meeting yesterday, including lawyer Yoon Gap-geun, but if he requests a preliminary arrest warrant or prosecutes it, he will go to trial. You're talking about this. I've been looking for the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit Act today, but I don't have the authority to investigate not only the rebellion but also the rebellion. In addition, since I abused my authority, I looked up the Corruption Investigations Unit Act today to see if I can commit rebellion as a related crime while investigating the abuse of authority, but it is not stipulated at all. There is no such provision for the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit to investigate crimes related to crimes that can be legally investigated. under the Public Offices Act That's why if it's a set criminal law, it's possible to investigate only the set crimes. They were not allowed to commit crimes related to the crime. So in that sense, isn't it the purpose of investigating the crime of rebellion now? In that sense, I think that the first step of all these divisions is for the Airborne Division to investigate President Yoon Suk Yeol without the authority to investigate the Airborne Division.
◆ Shin Yul: But didn't the court issue a warrant? So what's the court?
◇Jeon Joo-hye: This is a little hard for President Yoon Suk Yeol and some other people to understand. That's what I'm talking about. Secondly, this is where the law and the law collide, and since the arrest warrant for the president of Yoon Suk Yeol was issued by the court, of course, the power to enforce it is in the Airborne Division. I can see it. Now, however, the much-discussed Articles 110 and 111 of the Criminal Procedure Act. Nevertheless, according to the Criminal Procedure Act, the seizure or search of such places, which require military secrets, requires the approval of the person in charge. It's like this right now. So this is where the position of the President's Presidential Security Service now conflicts with the law that the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit is trying to execute this arrest now. So even if it's a legitimate arrest warrant, open the door to the security office with this, and if you don't open the door, it can't be concluded that it's an obstruction of the execution of public affairs. But why did the president of Yoon Suk Yeol refuse to comply with the arrest warrant? This is hard to accept because the agency, which does not have the authority to investigate crimes of rebellion, seeks to investigate President Yoon Suk Yeol for treason at the agency and has obtained an arrest warrant for it. They are strongly protesting like this. I think there are some things to accept.
◆ Shin Yul: Regardless of whether he will be arrested or not, the time of the Constitutional Court is passing. I have a question. This takes some time. Gallup Korea's poll of 1,004 people aged 18 or older across the country from January 7 to 9, 2025 was released today. For more information, look at the polls on the website of the National Election Poll Review Committee. The power of the people. I don't want to mention ars like that, but the power of the people in the telephone interview survey is 16.3%. Usually, we get 3% for ars and 5% for elections, but usually it's 2-3%. This is 16.4% response rate, but the public's support rate is 34%, and the Democratic Party of Korea is 36%. There's been a decrease in the number of shamans. Originally, in Gallup Korea, the proportion of independents is about 24%. But 19% of the shaman group came out. This goes back to martial law. What do you think is the reason for this?
◇Jeon Joo-hye: Considering the various phenomena that appear after martial law, aren't there overwhelmingly many people who think that the president did everything wrong with emergency martial law? At that time, support for the power of the people was very low, but in the impeachment prosecution of various constitutional courts that appeared after that, ask the Constitutional Court to judge quickly, excluding whether the crime of rebellion is established under the criminal law. Wasn't the next impeachment prosecution against acting Han Deok-soo? This happened on December 31st. This is a parliamentary dictatorship where even the acting power is impeached. I think the first party's parliamentary dictatorship and the people's antipathy have overlapped. And the president is constantly insisting on the power of the people and talking about it, but the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, which does not have the authority to investigate the crime of rebellion, is trying to investigate the president, and for that reason, an arrest warrant was issued and he is the active president. Still, the impeachment has been prosecuted, but it is a shame that the attempt to arrest and execute the president is a disgrace when he is an incumbent president. All of these work in combination, and in today's poll, the people's power seems to have won 34% of the support. However, even if the Democratic Party really does it, it is too much to say that support for the people's power has risen. Since there are quite a few aspects of the Democratic Party's abuse of congressional power and such reflective interests, it is time to not be satisfied with the polls, but to make such fierce efforts to read the minds of the people and embrace the middle.
◆ Shin Yul: By the way. You have to be careful, Baekgoldan. Of course, they have never referred to the word Baekgoldan. There are opinions that the media put it on them. But anyway, there is a controversy over taking the anti-communist youth group and holding this press conference, what do you think?
◇Jeon Joo-hye: So at times like this, you have to be really careful about every word and every action. Didn't former lawmaker Kim Min apologize after the press conference and cancel the press conference?
◆ Shin Yul: I don't understand that. After the press conference.
◇ Jeon Joo-hye: I know. Withdrawal like this, it's not possible that it didn't do anything.
◆ Shin Yul: I've never heard of it in my life. I'm going to do a broadcast today, but I'm going to cancel it today. Let's pretend it didn't happen. Does this make the broadcast disappear?
◇Jeon Joo-hye: That's why these mistakes shouldn't be repeated. The fact that this is the support of the people can turn into a whip in an instant, so at times like this, you have to be more careful about every word and action. In this respect, I think the press conference of former lawmaker Kim Min itself was very inappropriate.
◆ Shin Yul: And the Insurrection Special Prosecutor Act. I think there are two key issues related to the Insurrection Special Prosecutor Act as the subject of the Insurrection Special Prosecutor Act. One is that we listened to the people's power, and this is the story of the Democratic Party of Korea. But I actually pay attention to other things. It's about foreign exchange. But when I looked through the contents of this foreign exchange crime, there was a problem with sending troops abroad. So, sending troops to Ukraine. The government says it didn't, but it does. And the issue of sending leaflets to North Korea. And the problem of hitting the origin of the North Korean filth balloon. a suspected drone In fact, I think suspicions about drones should be revealed, but they said they didn't send troops, but isn't bringing up the issue of sending troops for no reason causing diplomatic friction? There's a lot of talk. How do you see it?
◇ Jeon Joo-hye: So, the Democratic Party of Korea made a concession to the independent counsel recommended by the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, but didn't you add the foreign exchange crime in addition to the rebellion crime? It's very, very unconstitutional. It is a bill that cannot accept the power of the people. They also talked about various things in the power of the people, and the biggest of them is that the special prosecution recommended by the opposition party is unfair. But this was the first reason, but there were actually many other reasons. So, I made concessions to the special prosecutor's recommendation, which is the most important issue, but I add it again. Was it necessary to add foreign exchange charges? Then what I think...
◆Credits: So it's because the Democratic Party has something that has been revealed, but it's true that it includes a lot of previously raised suspicions that have not been revealed.
◇ Jeon Joo-hye: The real intention of the Democratic Party is not to make the independent counsel law an agreement between the ruling and opposition parties. That's what I think. If you really persuade the power of the people and the power of the people doesn't even accept this, it's too much. If the people can judge it like this, wouldn't it be a situation that can't help but be considered and accepted as a power of the people? But why put this on unacceptable foreign exchange charges? Isn't this a rebellion special prosecutor? Let's dig into the emergency martial law on December 3rd?
◆ Shin Yul: That's right.
◇ Jeon Joo-hye: If you do this because you are suspected of foreign exchange crimes, it will be too complicated now, and I think the people put out a card that I can't accept.
◆ Shin Yul: What is the problem that some people are raising right now? Wasn't there the first impeachment motion and the second impeachment motion? The first impeachment motion failed because all members of the People's Power left and the second impeachment motion was passed then. The problem is that the current administration is staying away from North Korea, Russia, and China, and I've read all of them, and I remember that it is a bizarre diplomatic act that goes well with countries like the U.S. and Japan, away from countries like North Korea, China, and Russia. It has the word "bizarre." But who pays attention to this is that the U.S., Japan, and Western countries pay attention. That's why, for example, when foreign troops are dispatched, if they ask for a special prosecution on this part, the issue of Lee is also at stake due to the economy that Western countries are looking at, but they declared martial law. There are people who are worried that this is shaking more.
◇ Jeon Joo-hye: Of course, there is no choice but to worry about that. Anyway, in the case of the December 3 emergency martial law, there are pros and cons about whether this constitutes a crime of rebellion, but it is necessary to reveal what happened that day.
◆ Shin Yul: Actually, I think it's a ridiculous martial law.
◇ Jeon Joo-hye: Isn't that why you're the independent counsel for civil war? It's like, "Let's find out whether it's a crime of rebellion or not," but there's no evidence that the first professor sent troops to Ukraine, right?
◆ Shin Yul: No, the government denies that.
◇ Jeon Joo-hye: But what did you reveal...
◆ Shin Yul: If you keep bringing this up, and now you're giving a lot of support to NATO and things like that, why are we in a position...
◇ Jeon Ju-hye: And now, in Western countries, even in foreign countries, the fact that the independent counsel is conducted with something that has not been confirmed, lowers the status of the Republic of Korea very much. Because the word "bizarre diplomacy" was used in the first prosecution, foreign countries, especially in the United States and Europe, expressed doubts about Lee Jae-myung's diplomatic stance. Aren't we talking about this now? In this situation, the launch of such a special prosecutor, including foreign exchange crimes, does not match the international status of the Republic of Korea and rather undermines the nation's national prestige, so I think it is a law that has a lot of problems from a foreign point of view.
◆ Shin Yul: This is a bit different, but there's something called Myung Tae Kyun's golden phone. I think something is starting to come out from there. For example, new text messages between Myung Tae-kyun and President Yoon's wife have been released, and it seems to be a matter of opinion polls. How do you see this? from the legal profession
◇ Jeon Joo-hye: But because it was a text at the time of the candidate, there is no room for it to be in any way against the law. The one that came out yesterday was July 21, 2021. That's because it was July 2021, when he was a presidential candidate, a lot of text messages came out. It was even before he was confirmed as a presidential candidate for the People's Power. In the early stages of setting up camp, I asked for some advice on such a response as appearing on a radio program. That's what I saw in the article. So, the fact that such things continue to come out now is that I contacted President Yoon Suk Yeol and Myung Tae-kyun frequently at the time of such a candidate. I can think about this, but since there is no legal violation at all, I don't think there will be much impact or anything like that.
◆ Shin Yul: I see. Oh Dong-woon, the head of the airborne division. They say it's illegal to block an arrest warrant, but isn't it illegal?
◇Jeon Joo-hye: As I said, that's what I think of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, but isn't it the incumbent president? In terms of the security of a sitting president, this could be a point of conflict between the law and the law. That's why if the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit makes an arrest now, it will be a red-handed offender.
◆ Credit: Arrest?
◇ Jeon Joo-hye: I'll just make an arrest. This scenario is also coming out now, but this is especially the presidential residence, which requires military confidentiality, so in that respect, I think there is a point of conflict with the Criminal Procedure Act. So, I think there may be such a legal basis for refusing to execute such a warrant without the approval of the security chief to commit the arrest. So, we should think of Oh Dong-woon's story as saying their opinions from the perspective of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit.
◆ Shin Yul: That's all we have to say today. Thank you. Thank you. Until now, it has been Jeon Ju-hye, former lawmaker of the People's Power.
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